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[Q] Battery testing

I've read in a bunch of other threads that people are getting awesome battery life out of their Z or G2. Mine is okay-ish. I had a hero before which seemed a bit better. there are a couple of odd things I thought I'd check tho...
First, the keyboard backlight turns on and off at seemingly random intervals while open. Anyone else got this?
Also I've seen screenshots of the battery use screen showing how much power is used by each system. The screen always is at least 75% on mine, even when its been sat in a pouch most of the time with just a couple of messages or a phone call- this seems quite different to other peoples experience.
Is there any reliable way of benchmarking the battery to check? If not, does anyone fancy helping me test?

im actually suffering from the same problem,
i thaught it was because the first week i was using it lots thats why the battery wasnt lasting long, but on monday morning with a full charge ,
only with a few calls , texts and checking train times on TFL , by the time i got to sleep that night the battery was on 30%
I was shocked , checked the battery useage meter , everything was below 5% except the screen which was was on a shocking 80%
I Then formatted the phone , restored to default , removed everything ,
set the brightness to lowest useable which was just above the 'o' on 'ok' in the brightness screen let it charge to 100% for use on tuesday.
Tuesday - Morn before i left for work it was on 100% , the only thing i had setup on it was email, brightness on low - but useable .
Screen must have been on onliy for 20 mins throughout the day
Got home , battery was on 45%
battery useage - again display was taking over 70% of it when it was hardly on .
I am RMA'ing this one tommorow
I think its an issue internally with something shorting on the display, battery shoudlnt be draining that much if its not on
Out of interest was yours a UK Desire Z ?

Yep. This sounds exactly like my situation in every detail. I couldn't believe reports from other people saying their batteries were at 92% after 12 hours- even without using mine at all this wouldn't happen.
Mine is a UK desire z, from play.com. I think its over 14 days so RMA might be tricky, although I know I have lots of rights thanks to distance selling regulations. Hope I can exchange without too much fuss.
Ooh, just thought of something. When I set the brightness really low on mine (below 20% or so) the screen flickers slightly. It's most visible on a totally white page. Does yours do the same? Faulty backlight maybe?

pizza65 said:
When I set the brightness really low on mine (below 20% or so) the screen flickers slightly. It's most visible on a totally white page. Does yours do the same? Faulty backlight maybe?
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Just tested mine, definitely no flicker.
Now my experience with the battery....
I play about half hour - an hour of games every day, plus about up to an hour wifi, using the xda app throughout the day using data, 10 - 15 txts and a few 1 - 2 min calls... Not too heavy usage.
I'm getting 30-36 hours, I'm happy....
BUT..... I have not plugged in through mains once yet. I read that charging through USB gives better performance... so far that is looking true.
I got the same kind of time out of my Hero using mains but that was with zero game time.

yes! pizza65 , i noticed the flickering too! , i thaught it was just my eye being twitchy ! Noticeable on internet browsing on low brightness! .
Mine was from handtec .. (amazon delayed too much) so changed last min,
it comes with a 2 year manufacturer waranty i think so even if you take it up with HTC direct they should be able to help if play dont.
I tried a diff radio and rom , but it made no difference.
Maybe the UK batch is still faulty , wasnt that the reason why it failed google testing and got delayed for release here?
Whats your hinge like ?
ddot what network are you on ?
same to you pizza65?
im on 02 , i dont think it is a network radio issue with switching of hspda/3g to 2g signals as it does say cell standby battery useage is around only 6% , but then again the phone could be false reporting

pizza65 said:
Is there any reliable way of benchmarking the battery to check? If not, does anyone fancy helping me test?
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Not really if you want realistic real-world results with data connectivity etc. It varies too much since everything counts like signal strength.
You can always just turn off everything and burn the battery with a movie but first thing you should do is a few dozen full discharges before you do anything. I've noticed that HTC (and other manufacturers too) pre-use their batteries ie. charge and recharge them until they're optimal for consumers, hence the whine about bad batteries when people buy new phones (and in reviews as well).

I'm on Orange, I don't think its network because, as you confirmed, the "battery use" screen says that the screen is draining all the power. If nobody else gets a flicker on low brightness (it can take a few seconds to see it, but once you notice it...) then it looks like our screens are the culprit. Maybe.
I've deleted batterystats.bin and fully charged, so ill give that another chance before talking to play.
Ddot, what percentage of the drain is from the screen on your z? Also, if you press 'display' in that menu it will say how long the screen has been on, what does it say?

I have the same issue with battery performace. I've moved to Desire Z from my old Desire which had AMOLED display. On my old one, the display taked 5-8% of battery. On Desire Z I have minimum 50%, but ussually ~70%.
After reading that some people can use their DZs like "for two days of heavy use (gaming, browsing)" or "5% for 6 hours" I can't understand how?
Comparing to old Desire my DZ have poor battery performance. But the specs tells it must be much better.
I'll publish my battery usage stats after some days. Maybe it'll be useful.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

In additional.
I have stock Sense ROM with root and S-Off. No overclocking kernel. My SetCPU profile is set for 245 MHz when screen is off.
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Interesting read...desire users, amoled etc. cynogen mod, 2.2 android:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2012
Another snippet:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/h...ry-and-possibly-double-your-battery-life.html
a variation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6796078&postcount=1
i'm in similar shoes like you guys. i'll try these.
I'm using SetCPU 245MHz idle, stock Z rom.

tbalden said:
Interesting read...desire users, amoled etc. cynogen mod, 2.2 android:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2012
Another snippet:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/h...ry-and-possibly-double-your-battery-life.html
a variation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6796078&postcount=1
i'm in similar shoes like you guys. i'll try these.
I'm using SetCPU 245MHz idle, stock Z rom.
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing

And a really "geek" method here quoted from cyanogenmod issue:
Comment 27 by david.j.erickson, Aug 19, 2010
Now, I was still having abnormal drain on my battery. As suggested in the Wiki and also confirmed in another cyanogenmod post, clearing the battery stats can help. I followed this procedure:
Fully charge the battery, says Full and 100% under Settings - About phone - Status.
Reboot into recovery, wiped battery stats. Phone still plugged in at this point.
Reboot into rom, checked to make sure battery was still Full and 100%.
Unplugged phone.
Killed it, used Maps on Wifi and messing around. Killed it in about 3 hours or so.
Tried turning it on a couple times to make sure it was *dead* dead. It still tried to boot, but couldn't complete without shutting off.
Plugged phone in, booted it up. It may be better to not turn it on until it is fully charged, but this is just what I did.
Let it charge overnight, next morning took it off charger since it was full.
I have noticed pretty good battery life since doing this. This morning on my bus ride in I pretty much constantly played some Storm8 games and used Listen with Bluetooth, was only down to about 82 or 84%, can't remember. This is on par with previous CM release for me.
Not sure why this rom in particular had so much worse battery drain out of the gate, and not just for me. Fortunately it seems correctable. Maybe if a few of you could give this a try and see if it improves your battery performance we could conclusively say battery calibration is the solution.
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What about the flicker? Can anyone confirm that?

I have a UK (read: QWERTY) Desire Z, first batch.
I tried reprodocuing the flicker by lowering the brightness completely and looking at a blank white page in the internet browser. Couldn't see it. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.
That said, I'm not getting the great battery life that most seem to be getting, and the stats always show the Display as being the number one drain. HOWEVER, it doesn't seem quite as bad as you guys are saying.
Right now, it looks like this:
Unplugged for 18 hours and 16 minutes, battery at 36%
Display accounts for 41% of the drain
It has been on for 50 minutes.
(stock ROM, running an IM client 24/7, synced to three email addresses... Typoclock seems to use 2% of the battery every time as well, which seems relatively high for such an innocuous little widget)

Yeah. I have some slight flickering too, slight when low light set.
Uk stock.
I dont think high display percent is an issue too much reading cyanogen issue comments.if you use nothing but low cpu burden apps, display should eat most.
Also if i have it off, power is eaten by cell standby.
Im still hoping for a settled battery log mentioned in forums.

My 2 cents:
If I "use" the phone, I have to plugin it every night.
If I do not "use" it (nobody calls that day, no browsing or GPS (Just work!)), I plugin it every two day (ex. mon - wed - fri).
The display is always 65-80 % of the "drain problem".
Today the stats are:
7.30 am: full chargerd 100%
7.30 pm: display drains: 70% in 1h : 21m - battery at 20%
I leave automatic background gmail sync on (only daylight, I use the "Flight mode" overnight)
No bluetooth, no wifi, no gps, brightness 35-40%

lordevol said:
I leave automatic background gmail sync on (only daylight, I use the "Flight mode" overnight)
No bluetooth, no wifi, no gps, brightness 35-40%
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No phone either.

I'm on a North American Desire Z and I see the display using 70%-80% of the battery when I have the display on for approximately two hours out of the day. I keep my display quite dim too, at 20% brightness.
I'm also running everything stock. No root, no custom ROMs, no anything.

Isnt display percentage actually the display driver cpu time eaten?its just a theoretical value isnt it, not watts gone? It seems obvious that its eating a lot as it refreshes all the time regardless of display light level.

My screen on is only 33% today, im sure its usually higher though. Maybe its due to me flashing stuff all day. Ill do a full charge tonight and report back Sunday.
...bought from e2save, a part of carphone warehouse.
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[Q] Awful battery life. Should I replace my phone?

As I posted in another thread:
I am lucky to even get 12 hours with minimal use. No calls, just some texting and maybe browsing my bank website. Screen is always the killer for me, even on 20% brightness. If I go lower the screen actually flickers.
I bought the red HTC Chichitech batteries and they didn't help me at all.
Tried overclocking module, didn't change much.
The only app that ever shows any significant battery use (over 5%) is Maps, when I use maps.
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I am rooted, S-OFF, using the Sense Modaco ROM. Battery usage was no better with the Stock Bell Rom before rooting or S-OFF.
My main concern is the screen flickering at low brightness. it's as if it's unable to decide on a specific level of brightness and makes me question if it's actually saving any power.
I set my phone to Auto brightness and I am going to see if that is actually worse of if it's on par with 20%.
Ugh - just realized there is another thread pretty much all about this. I thought it was a different issue. Still, does anyone know if there is a better batch of phones or something? I have a FutureShop warranty so it'd be easy enough for me to replace if it will actually provide a solution

No-one has posted anything, to my knowledge, about a different batch of phones having better battery life. I would check out the other threads about battery life (including those on the G2 side too) and see if you can get yours to last better. But it could just be something faulty on your phone/battery.

Auto-brightness would make it even worse..because there is some type of bug or something that isn't making it function like it should. I was also getting terrible battery life until I followed some of these steps: http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/05/20-tips-to-improve-htc-evo-4g-battery-life.html
Biggest killers are any widgets that are constantly updating..or facebook/twitter apps that are constantly updating. As well..i recommend SetCPU to underclock your phone when your screen is turned off. This should also help with conserving battery life along with some of the steps provided in that link.

steviewevie said:
No-one has posted anything, to my knowledge, about a different batch of phones having better battery life. I would check out the other threads about battery life (including those on the G2 side too) and see if you can get yours to last better. But it could just be something faulty on your phone/battery.
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I am considering waiting a month or so and then having mine replaced. Unless I managed to figure something else out. My HTC Legend had better battery life.
Rickroller said:
Auto-brightness would make it even worse..because there is some type of bug or something that isn't making it function like it should. I was also getting terrible battery life until I followed some of these steps: http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/05/20-tips-to-improve-htc-evo-4g-battery-life.html
Biggest killers are any widgets that are constantly updating..or facebook/twitter apps that are constantly updating. As well..i recommend SetCPU to underclock your phone when your screen is turned off. This should also help with conserving battery life along with some of the steps provided in that link.
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The reason I want to try auto or higher brightness is to see if lowering it was actually saving me any battery life. I am curious if there's a driver or display issues that causes it to use the same amount regardless of the setting. So far I don't seem to be running out any faster @ auto than I was at 20%, but it hasn't been a long enough time to tell for sure.
Also I am unable to do the battery tip for the evo because once I turn off the phone and go to charge it again, it's instantly green. But I am going to try it anyway even though it's green.
Since writing the first post I used the OC module to get my phone to 1.2ghz. I have SetCPU set to run on boot with the onDemand setting. I have a profile that says to slow the CPU when the screen is off. From what I've read it doesn't make a ton of difference with this particular phone, but we'll see...

rewen said:
Also I am unable to do the battery tip for the evo because once I turn off the phone and go to charge it again, it's instantly green. But I am going to try it anyway even though it's green.
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Yep, that's what I found too, when you try and charge it thinks it's already charged and goes green straight away again. But as you said, worth a try.

I just wanted to report back and say that I had my phone replaced. So far so good:
- No screen flicker issue at low brightness
- Battery has lasted nearly 20 hours with moderate-heavy use (played NFS Shift, setup basically everything on the phone after rooting, installed all my apps, backups, flashed some roms, 20+ texts, 3-4 short calls, showing people random apps.)
If it's not all in my head then this is definitely much better now!

Curious. It seems that everyone who reports the screen flickering problem has poor battery life.
Defective displays?

I feel my battery life is pretty bad as well. I've unplugged the phone this morning at 7 AM. Now it's 2 PM, and I'm at 37%. In between, the only things I've done are: send/receive a few emails and chat on gtalk. Brightness is at 40%, animations are turned off, wifi and gps location off. Using latest Cyanogenmod (6.1.1) and have no screen flicker issues
Edit: 17 minutes later, it's now at 27%

How long have you had the phone for?
Initially the first few days I got the phone, battery life was really bad, could drain in a few hours.
After a week or two of use, I now have reasonable battery life, the phone can last all day with light usage and still have lots of juice left. Actually I think if you make a few calls and a few txts, battery could last 2 days. If you play with it, one day for sure but you need to plug in over night.

(if you're talking to me) It's quite new, just picked it up on Friday actually. Also I've kept on researching, and it seems that poor coverage (like I have at work, from 7 til 3) tends to drain the battery even more, since the phone keeps switching between HSPA, 3G, etc.

I had my first one for about a month at least. This replacement was from Saturday.
Today I've had my phone unplugged since 8am, it's 5:30pm and I have 45% battery left, but the screen is the #2 user. Standby is #1 @ 40% of my battery usage, due to over 4 hours of time without a signal. The screen is only 24% and has been on for 48 minutes. Voice calls is #3 at 23% battery usage, with 23mins of calling.
My other phone would have died by now.
Also I spent an hour of streaming bluetooth audio to my car. Bluetooth doesn't even register on the battery usage. I've never seen it use more than 2% and it's always on. I am not sure why people say it uses a lot.

Just want to share my experience.
I too had poor battery life. Stock Bell ROM. Got to 3:00 pm and it used to die. Use this for work. Pushing data all day from Exchange server, bluetooth on all day because I'm in and out of the car, talk on average 30 minutes per day, texting, surfing, tethering, blah blah. Believe it or not, my old Omnia II would get me thru the day no problem.
I was also tempted to return it. But I decided to try a few things. Installed Set CPU and a task killer at the same time. Shut down as many tasks as possible on start up. Widgets and accounts, except Exchange-push, run and sync every hour. I get about 40% battery by dinner. I am happy now .

I'm quite happy with my Desire Z's battery life, It lasts for about 36 hours with moderate use. I have Juicedefender and Ultimatejuice installed, data or wifi are opened only when an app needs data connection, this increased my battery life by 10 hours or sth like that. Nice app.

I had terrible battery life until I went overseas. It is a stock Bell ROM, but I arrived in Spain Monday and am using a Spanish SIM card.
My battery life has increased from 14 hours with Bell's 3G signal to my current 27 hours and 35% remaining battery using GSM and WiFi always on. Funny thing is that no matter where I am it says the screen is by far my biggest power drain.

Where did you buy your Desire Z and how did you get it replaced? I'm with Bell and they would take mine to send out for "repair" but not sure if that will do anything. This will take 3-6 weeks apparently and I'm not sure if they it is worth it.
I'm running 10 hours with that I consider fair usage (few calls, text, map/gsp, and facebook.) My display is the highest battery usage at 60% and on for about 1:45h. I'm very disappointed.

Hey,
it's the same with my G2.
Max 24h.
I've standard ROM installed.
No WiFi.
Brightness to about 30%.
Juice Defender is installed and I'm surfing and just the regular stuff, but even if it's just in standby, it's taking a lot of power (display takes most)
Best!
-blubberor

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Where did you buy your Desire Z and how did you get it replaced? I'm with Bell and they would take mine to send out for "repair" but not sure if that will do anything. This will take 3-6 weeks apparently and I'm not sure if they it is worth it.
I'm running 10 hours with that I consider fair usage (few calls, text, map/gsp, and facebook.) My display is the highest battery usage at 60% and on for about 1:45h. I'm very disappointed.
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I bought mine at FutureShop since I didn't think Bell would let me without buying at least a month of service (or being an existing customer). I also purchased FutureShop's extended warranty which is how I was able to get it swapped for a new one so quickly.

I use the extended battery for the evo. Lasts about 1.5 days with ass loads of use. Just have to trim the plastic edges a bit.
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I have a couple of those red chichitech batteries but I wasn't able to notice any improvement with the problem phone.

My Desire Z also has a flickering screen at lowest brightness, and with moderate use it dies after about 12 hours max. Even on lowest brightness the screen ueses 59% battery. I rarely manage to make it through the day without having to charge the phone. Im on stock ROM with latest OTA (1.72) btw.
Gonna have it replaced next week just cause of the flickering screen. Has anyone tried the 1700mAH battery from seidio?

[CM7] Battery drain fix

I found this thread on Desize HD forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984337&page=6
then i wonder can we get some information to know where the problem come from?=> we can fix the battery drain issue on all GB build. Hope it help out devs. cheer
Sorry for my bad english

What drain?
Are there really so many problems with drainage on CM7/GB builds?
2d, 3h, 25m on battery with 60% left.
The first CM7 build i used is the one in my sig. I'm amazed by the lack of problems with this build

The only drain that's still ongoing is bluetooth on standby drain AFAIK. This DSP issue is not related to the HD2, thus I don't think it's valid to implement. With bluetooth turned off and heavy usage, I get roughly 2 days out of my device also... I really don't think the drain is a big issue. Honestly, the biggest issues is (And it's not much): Robot voice once in a while, some Wifi issues (EAP mostly), Wakeup lag and BT drain on standby.

the drain is related to the toolchain used to compile our kernals and roms?). I however can do easily 3 days with out charging on android, using the same setup as KrewsialNL

Actually
Actually, i get pretty horrible battery life across all builds...
it could be that I have a v1 TMOUS hd2 though... something is weird with it. I always get random energy spikes (even with sync off)
can't get more than 14-18 hours...

My battery drainage is fine using the Typhoon rom. I think some people are expecting a little too much out of their batteries.

It's only 1230mah if it was 1500mah it would have been way better.

KrewsialNL said:
Are there really so many problems with drainage on CM7/GB builds?
2d, 3h, 25m on battery with 60% left.
The first CM7 build i used is the one in my sig. I'm amazed by the lack of problems with this build
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How on EARTH are you getting that long out of your battery?
Are you using the phone at all?
I've used loads of different builds and never come even close to half that battery life, in fact no more than about 20hours MAX with light usage.
I am using Juice Defender to disable my WiFi and Data when the phone is not in use too.
Any tips?

I have run all the latest GB builds and I also get this weird spike (around 70mA to 100mA) usually when I leave the phone overnight (not charging) and this drains my battery down to almost empty by morning. This is with bluetooth off and wifi on. No apps installed on the phone.

KrewsialNL said:
Are there really so many problems with drainage on CM7/GB builds?
2d, 3h, 25m on battery with 60% left.
The first CM7 build i used is the one in my sig. I'm amazed by the lack of problems with this build
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mmmm That CM7 build has great battery life but yours is beyond reality... are you sure you haven't connect the phone in those 2 days?
Mine says "4D 10h 1m 50s on battery" and has more than 50% left but it has 3 green spikes (in battery use, I connected 3 times but didnt charge to 100%)

Crin said:
How on EARTH are you getting that long out of your battery?
Are you using the phone at all?
I've used loads of different builds and never come even close to half that battery life, in fact no more than about 20hours MAX with light usage.
I am using Juice Defender to disable my WiFi and Data when the phone is not in use too.
Any tips?
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Well I was going to say exactly EXACTLY the same thing! Except that i didn't like Juice Defender
Is battery THAT GOOD?!?

Battery
well yes, it's certainly feasible...
it's just that MY hd2 specifically gets random spikes in energy usage.... I'm not sure why, been trying to resolve it for a while.
I don't really get those spikes in WM, only when I go someplace that doesn't have signal... it will spike up initially and then settle down (dutty's rom)
However, with these android roms.... i get random spikes of increased current around 100-200ma while the phone is in sleep. Bluetooth off, sync off, wifi off etc.
also, when the phone is in use... it is not uncommon to have current of 400+ consumption... hitting 500+ when web browsing...
I never got this high in windows mobile...generally around 400 when streaming youtube in wm. I'm wondering if it is an android thing...
edit:
in a perfect world, our battery consumption should stay around 4ma constantly... Which we know that isn't always the case because we have data syncing and signal strength changing...but to give you an idea....
if we have a 1230mah battery... dividing that by the current draw (4ma) gives us a standby time of ~307.5h....
that's ~12.8 days
however, with my current usage... say, i'm getting about 14 hours out of my battery... that's like if i constantly had a current draw of ~68ma...
Taking a look of my usage charts.... if we say the phone is only in use for 6 hours, and the rest is in standby for 10h at 4ma...
the 6 hours would have a power consumption of ~300ma the whole time....
which i think is kinda excessive....
meh. i don't know.
perhaps i'll upload my usage charts later... lately on this new rom, i've been getting only 8 hours of battery :/
but it could be because i've been playing around with it too much

I am on a TMO US HD2 first generation and I am doing good if I can get 6 hrs of battery with the stock battery and normal usage. No wifi, 3/4g, no GPS, and auto screen dim. If I am using the net or something like angry birds I am down to 2-3 hrs max. I have tried underclocking and still not getting a full 8 hrs of life. Would love to find a solid rom that lasts 12 hrs or more. Ordered an extended battery so maybe that will help a bit.

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I am on a TMO US HD2 first generation and I am doing good if I can get 6 hrs of battery with the stock battery and normal usage. No wifi, 3/4g, no GPS, and auto screen dim. If I am using the net or something like angry birds I am down to 2-3 hrs max. I have tried underclocking and still not getting a full 8 hrs of life. Would love to find a solid rom that lasts 12 hrs or more. Ordered an extended battery so maybe that will help a bit.
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I have the same TMO US 1st Gen. I'm using
TyphooN CyanogenMod 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951 just uncheck bluethoot when you don't use it.
I get from 1 to 2 days with moderate use.

Define what's good and what bad with the standard battery? I have been getting on average about 10-15 hours and that's with doing alot of texting, web surfing, mp3 player and xda lol, and crunchyroll (streaming shows) usually over 3g but sometimes over 4g.
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robrob777 said:
I have the same TMO US 1st Gen. I'm using
TyphooN CyanogenMod 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951 just uncheck bluethoot when you don't use it.
I get from 1 to 2 days with moderate use.
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Thanks for the tip. I have a second HD2 that I test builds on and I was actually in the process of installing the ROM you mentioned last night I am excited that this may be the rom to drop on my daily driver I have noticed that non GB roms (2.2) seem to have much stronger WIFI signal strength so I am hopeful this GB version will have solid WIFI signal too. Love using GB but hate the wifi issues I keep having. Thanks agian for the tip.

Well, this thread didn't go anywhere.
I'm finally trying to get up the courage to switch to a NAND rom.
I get awful battery life out of my SD build I've been playing with and that is with a 1500mAh replacement battery.
I'd hate to switch only to find myself in the same position?
Looking at TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.6.0 . . .

Revhead said:
Well, this thread didn't go anywhere.
I'm finally trying to get up the courage to switch to a NAND rom.
I get awful battery life out of my SD build I've been playing with and that is with a 1500mAh replacement battery.
I'd hate to switch only to find myself in the same position?
Looking at TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.6.0 . . .
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battery drain on SD builds may vary from SD card used.
I can confirm that from my experience, i was not able to use the phone on the second day (total up time 1d + 12h TOP) when i was on SD builds
BUT.. while on NAND (no A2SD no Data2SD)
I can confirm that i can now use the phone for 2d + some hours, depending on use.
All battery info apps told me that battery life is Good (not excellent, not very good).

Made the switch. Battery life as good if not better than with WM and SD build. I feel the biggest improvement came when I installed setCPU.
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[Q] Insane display battery usage

I'm on Runny 3.3 which I have had flashed for about a week.
Wiped completely before flashing (Full wipe EXT4 zip), never had this problem before.
Anyway, in this week I assumed that the battery usage would level out. I tried calibrating it, but display always takes up 93% of the battery usage.
Even on Runny 3.1 I had brilliant battery life. This problem has only occured on this ROM. I lost 7% from full in 20 minutes when I was using my phone for relatively basic tasks.
Should I reflash? What kind of values are you getting for display battery usage?

I have a solution my friend
I suffered this problem like a few days a go.
what you need to do is take a look at this post i hope it'll help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...26016#16808950

Thanks, but the link doesnt work lol

a wee bump for any help....

I changed the kernel to the Unity kernel and the display is now using 60 - 70 odd percent. Can't really test it though since its been plugged in since I flashed it. Will see how it goes tomorrow and report back

Please let me know, my battery lasts 8 hours with moderate 3 hours of onscreen time (at best)

For those who suffer this problem check out memnocs perfect battery guide
Btw I'm sorry the link didn't work. As a said take a look at memnocs guide its in dhd development page

The kernel didnt help much, the display usage has gone down but the other things have gone up lol a lot more than I expected. Will try that battery guide now.

lol what do you expect? the display is the biggest battery-eating-monster in our phone. it's completely normal that it drains that much.
fyi: my phone drains ~250-300 mA with display on, lowest brightness level, ~500 with maximum brightness level and 1-8mA in standby.
so: ~500mA/h and we have a 1200mA/h (probably less than that, since Li-Ion batteries lose capacity after some months) battery -> about 2h display on at maximum brightness

its weird because this "problem" occours only with sense rom.
On Cm7 and miui the screen was under 50% of battery usage...

Most non sense roms don't calculate ic correctly.
You can use an app called battery monitor widget to watch your battey drain if you want to.
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.

Ughh battery drain definitely too fast.

I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.

Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?

Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.

Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.

just4747 said:
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?

@rbiter said:
No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.

More battery life threads please.

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More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.

just4747 said:
Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.

I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.

Antzor said:
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel

From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.

Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise