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HTC Desire tranfering music 4GB so slow!
im trying to transfer it, but the speed is only on 183 kb/sec, what to do??
its 16 GB card.

Its probably a class 2 card.

RaymondErasmus said:
Its probably a class 2 card.
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i dont know, but usually it use to send 2-3 mbps per sec, i tryed to move the card over to my hero, and it changed!

kakashi-jk3 said:
i dont know, but usually it use to send 2-3 mbps per sec, i tryed to move the card over to my hero, and it changed!
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Thats odd ...
Maybe a format of the card will help!

RaymondErasmus said:
Thats odd ...
Maybe a format of the card will help!
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Thanks for answer Fido!
It doesn't help, tried to google, and saw someone had problem because something about ext4 or something, that made it go slowe..

Don't think so, either the custom rom's or the ext partition cause the slow transfer rates. I'm not exactly sure what it is because there are a lot of mixed reports about it. Best thing to do is to just sit it out or use a cared reader and directly connect it to the pc. If the data transfer is really important maybe try a different rom or remove the ext partition(not sure which one cause i don't know what exactly causes the problem).

oh, do you have the exactly the same problem?

Probably just giving advice from past experience or reading other threds, something you might want to do yourself

but any solution?

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[Q] Phone freezes when trying to access photos on ext. SD Card

I have 812 pictures in my Camera album on my external Toshiba 32GB Class 10 SD card. When I first got the phone in December, everything worked great, even after transferring from my EVO 3D. Now, whenever I try to access my stuff on my SD card through the Gallery app, it just freezes. I can hit home and exit the app, but back doesn't work and I cannot scroll anywhere. I can still access pictures via ASTRO and save stuff on to it..I just don't anymore, in case it goes corrupt. Any solutions? I tried searching, but no one seems to have the same problem as me..
Lol. Sounds like a simple cache issue with the gallery. Go to settings, application manager, all apps, find gallery, try clearing cache, and if that doesn't solve the problem, delete data. This will not delete your images. I think it may or may not delete your thumbnails. Just scroll over the images again and a thumbnail is remade. Nothing will harm your photos.
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kkarson said:
I have 812 pictures in my Camera album on my external Toshiba 32GB Class 10 SD card. When I first got the phone in December, everything worked great, even after transferring from my EVO 3D. Now, whenever I try to access my stuff on my SD card through the Gallery app, it just freezes. I can hit home and exit the app, but back doesn't work and I cannot scroll anywhere. I can still access pictures via ASTRO and save stuff on to it..I just don't anymore, in case it goes corrupt. Any solutions? I tried searching, but no one seems to have the same problem as me..
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hmmm... I would normally say that the 800+ images in one gallery might be the cause of the problem. But you say that it was working fine previously. Even then, I'd recommend to split the images into different folders (maybe based on month they were taken) to minimize the amount of thumbnails that gallery has to process and look through.
I'm assuming you've done the MA6 and MB1 updates. Perhaps upgrading the phone to 4.1.2 caused this? I haven't heard of anything similar on XDA, but I'd stick with kkarson's approach and clear cache from the gallery app. Hope that works for ya!
Already tried clearing the cache and data from the Application Manager, but still the same results. I have a folder of old camera photos from my EVO 3D with 1780 photos in it, and it opens and I can view the photos perfectly fine, with no lag or freezing. But when I open the "Camera" folder on the ext. SD card, it just freezes and I have to go back to the home screen. I just upgraded to MB1 today and still the same results..
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Maybe there's corrupted files on the SD card causing the phone to choke when it tries to read them. If you have windows 7 or XP you can put the card in your pc, (with a card reader or usb card reader), then right click on the card and choose properties. Select the tools tab in the properties box. The first option is error checking which will scan the disk and fix errors (if fix errors is checked). However, if there are corrupted files on the SD card it might be going bad and should be reformatted.
I have the same issue. I havent found a fix. I even formatted my external SD card.. didnt help.
MadFlava said:
I have the same issue. I havent found a fix. I even formatted my external SD card.. didnt help.
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No fix. Your Sd card is done. The fix is get a new one.
Also the op likely has Sd card problems and not a phone problem.
EzDuzit said:
No fix. Your Sd card is done. The fix is get a new one.
Also the op likely has Sd card problems and not a phone problem.
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The card isnt that old and isnt giving any read/write errors.
I guess that could be the case.. its a class 10 Sandisk card.. I would think it would last more than a couple of months.
MadFlava said:
The card isnt that old and isnt giving any read/write errors.
I guess that could be the case.. its a class 10 Sandisk card.. I would think it would last more than a couple of months.
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Have you benchmarked your read/write speeds to your external sd?
MadFlava said:
The card isnt that old and isnt giving any read/write errors.
I guess that could be the case.. its a class 10 Sandisk card.. I would think it would last more than a couple of months.
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I'm looking at a Sandisk 32GB class 10 ultra card that I got right after xmas so it's only 3 mopnths old. It started spitting out corrupt files after only 1 month. Eventually I'll get another card. But if my phone ever random restarts, or suddenly locks up, or I notice media is using a lot of battery, I know if I run scan disk on the card it will show errors. It lasts for a few weeks between formats.
There are also tons of posts from people that have had sd card failures on this phone (also with new cards).
Scan of my card after phone acted up.
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I bought a new class 10 PNY card today. Once I get some pictures on it, I guess we'll see if that was the issue.
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MadFlava said:
I bought a new class 10 PNY card today. Once I get some pictures on it, I guess we'll see if that was the issue.
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Dont worry you're not alone, theres a thread in general that had a ton of posts and the thread title was "If your sdcard failed on you, what recovery were you on?"
Many have had to purchase 2 or 3 cards until they got one that didnt go bad or corrupted. If you got the sdcard (the one that failed) very recently, you could call the manufacturer and tell them it failed on you, I'm sure they would send a replacement because I've seen others do it and they got their replacements in a timely manner
CNexus said:
Dont worry you're not alone, theres a thread in general that had a ton of posts and the thread title was "If your sdcard failed on you, what recovery were you on?"
Many have had to purchase 2 or 3 cards until they got one that didnt go bad or corrupted. If you got the sdcard (the one that failed) very recently, you could call the manufacturer and tell them it failed on you, I'm sure they would send a replacement because I've seen others do it and they got their replacements in a timely manner
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Well, the new card doesnt work any faster than the old card. At this point, Im thinking its not the card.
I guess I'm just gonna have to get a new card....this one is only 6 months old!!
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My Verbatim class 10 16gb sd card works just fine on my SGS2 and computer but it freezes like hell the SGS4. i want it in my SGS4 ...any advice please..i formatted and still the same
kremori said:
My Verbatim class 10 16gb sd card works just fine on my SGS2 and computer but it freezes like hell the SGS4. i want it in my SGS4 ...any advice please..i formatted and still the same
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This isn't the section for the S4.

[Q] SD-card in phone cause problems, out phone it runs like butter

Hi,
Since i installed the lastest CM 7.2.0.1 (http://get.cm/?device=bravo&type=stable) and lower versions, i experienced that my sd card makes my phone freeze and reboots
I had these problems quiet allot while listening to music in the train, first i thought it was due the bad connection on the railway system but...
Yesterday i installed VJ CM 10 - 4.1.2 - v3.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945441)
I did everything what was mentioned in the first post.
Every 2 minutes after flashing the new ROM, My phone got laggy and made a reboot.
Today i took my sd-card out of my phone and suddenly all The problems are gone, my phone runs like butter.
Last months i tried other sd-cards and had still the same problem so my sd-card isn't broken.
I followed the ext4 tutorial for partitioning, so that can't be the problem either. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513)
I found on the internet that just a small percentage have these problems, can someone help me with it ?
I hope i was clear in my explanation.
Thanks
Try with another sd-card.
Is your sd-card a class 2?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Try with another sd-card.
Is your sd-card a class 2?
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No, Sandisk 4GB class 6. (sandisk.nl/products/memory-cards/microsd/ultra-class6-for-android/?capacity=4GB)
Do other cards do the same?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Do other cards do the same?
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Yes, I think it has something to do with the connection, something more hardware related.
I will try once again and let you know.
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Criise said:
Yes, I think it has something to do with the connection, something more hardware related.
I will try once again and let you know.
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I did a fresh install, now used a 4gb class 4 sandisk. Everything went well, no lag in the beginning. After installing some apps like: 'facebook, whatsapp, messenger, maps, gmail, etc...' my phone get a hard time to deal with it.
Reboot every 5 mins, bootloops, hard to start up and to get on the startscreen. I don't know what to do. Will try my other sd-card tomorrow, but it will give the same problems
Criise said:
I did a fresh install, now used a 4gb class 4 sandisk. Everything went well, no lag in the beginning. After installing some apps like: 'facebook, whatsapp, messenger, maps, gmail, etc...' my phone get a hard time to deal with it.
Reboot every 5 mins, bootloops, hard to start up and to get on the startscreen. I don't know what to do. Will try my other sd-card tomorrow, but it will give the same problems
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Day 2: Did a new fresh install with the 4gb class 6. Phone is still running laggy, Can't install more then 5 app's..
What about listening to music on train? Anyone could help me with that? It's quiet annoying.

external memory card has frozen in time

as off about a week ago, my external drive has been playing up. if I delete anything from it 30 mins later it will return and if I copy anything to it, it will disappear. its like a photo can not be changed. can someone anyone got and advice?????????
shotgun1976 said:
as off about a week ago, my external drive has been playing up. if I delete anything from it 30 mins later it will return and if I copy anything to it, it will disappear. its like a photo can not be changed. can someone anyone got and advice?????????
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This happens for a few reasons, 1 - it's ****ed or 2- the size is incorrectly reported, ie someones sold you an 8 gig card but.in reality its a 2 gig card altered to report as having.8 gig and.youve filled the actual 2 gig.of space and now trying to use the space beyond that, that doesnt actually exist.
AFAIK
tonylee000 said:
This happens for a few reasons, 1 - it's ****ed or 2- the size is incorrectly reported, ie someones sold you an 8 gig card but.in reality its a 2 gig card altered to report as having.8 gig and.youve filled the actual 2 gig.of space and now trying to use the space beyond that, that doesnt actually exist.
AFAIK
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no I have had it for a while and filled it before. funny I just formatted it on pc put it back in my phone and few minutes later its full again. I think it could be a app I downloaded as the card will not just restore everything 55 gig by itself. ill have to try freeze some apps and see what happens
shotgun1976 said:
no I have had it for a while and filled it before. funny I just formatted it on pc put it back in my phone and few minutes later its full again. I think it could be a app I downloaded as the card will not just restore everything 55 gig by itself. ill have to try freeze some apps and see what happens
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If you formatted it.on the pc and when you put.it ba k.8n your phone all the files were still there then you either didnt format it, or it didnt format as it should.do which would.indicate corrupt hardware. Yovu should limit how much . you handle a microsd card they ate extremely fragile and break far to.easily. ive broke one myself in the same manor - stopped reporting correctly after id handled it.
Hope you find.a.different reason...
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If you formatted it.on the pc and when you put.it ba k.8n your phone all the files were still there then you either didnt format it, or it didnt format as it should.do which would.indicate corrupt hardware. Yovu should limit how much . you handle a microsd card they ate extremely fragile and break far to.easily. ive broke one myself in the same manor - stopped reporting correctly after id handled it.
Hope you find.a.different reason...
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funny thing is after formatting it and put it in my phone I checked storage and it was empty. 10 mins later everything was restored so I know I did do a correct format but why on earth everything returns only god knows
shotgun1976 said:
funny thing is after formatting it and put it in my phone I checked storage and it was empty. 10 mins later everything was restored so I know I did do a correct format but why on earth everything returns only god knows
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Not.fully.mounted yet maybe? Lol rather you than me lol
Have you tried to put in another card?
Mayby try it with a very small card, you might get a warning from some program that a backup could not be restored, the sync failed or such message.
Bright.Light said:
Have you tried to put in another card?
Mayby try it with a very small card, you might get a warning from some program that a backup could not be restored, the sync failed or such message.
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YES I USED MY WIFES CARD WORKS FINE. I CONTACTED SANDISK THEY SAID THE CARD IS [email protected]#*ED AND TO RETURN IT TO THEM AND THEY WOULD REPLACE IT )))))

Tablet destroying SD cards?

In August, I bought a 128GB PNY microSD card. It lasted almost two months, and then the tablet started acting funny. It would randomly unmount the card, it couldn't find my music files, and apps I had moved to the card would just disappear. I assumed the card was broken, so I eventually replaced it with a 128GB Samsung card. It's worked fine until the other day, when it started exhibiting the exact same behavior. I haven't been able to fix it.
I've tried formatting them both, but nothing seems to work. Windows can see the cards and the contents, but it's not able to format either card - it reads them both as write-protected, even though they're not. The only thing I can think that might cause it besides my tablet is Link2SD. I use this to move the large app data to the card since I only have 16GB of regular space. Could this be causing it? I'm at a loss, and I can't keep buying new cards. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I regularly read this forum and this is the first time I've heard of an issue as described. I bought a a cheaper 64Gb mSD card and used it with my Tab S day one. I've never had an issue. Could be you just have been unlucky? Were your cards from recognized brands? I suspect that the larger GB cards have lower yields so you need to buy a better quality card.
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3DSammy said:
I regularly read this forum and this is the first time I've heard of an issue as described. I bought a a cheaper 64Gb mSD card and used it with my Tab S day one. I've never had an issue. Could be you just have been unlucky? Were your cards from recognized brands? I suspect that the larger GB cards have lower yields so you need to buy a better quality card.
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I definitely won't rule out being unlucky, it's definitely in my blood. I just find it odd the exact same thing would happen to two cards, months apart and with different brands and purchasing locations. PNY isn't super awesome, but they're not garbage, and Samsung is fairly prominent.
Samsung phones and tablets are occasionally said to be sd card killers. The GS3 definitely was, killed like 3 cards with the same result as you got.
Sometimes I feel it also affects certain sizes of card. The GS3 ate 16gb cards, but not 32gb cards. So it's quite possible that a different size card may have a longer life.
Not saying this has any base in research, just my experience.
Andante1980 said:
Samsung phones and tablets are occasionally said to be sd card killers. The GS3 definitely was, killed like 3 cards with the same result as you got.
Sometimes I feel it also affects certain sizes of card. The GS3 ate 16gb cards, but not 32gb cards. So it's quite possible that a different size card may have a longer life.
Not saying this has any base in research, just my experience.
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I've read this on other forums as well, specifically the GS3 part. I wish there was a way to be sure. What happened to destroy the cards?
I am using a Samsung 64GB and Link2SD. Haven't encountered any issue so far. But on a related topic, I managed to destroy a 1 year old Sandisk USB drive yesterday while trying to format it as NTFS. Now Windows won't recognise it al all. It could just be that the flash memory had defects to begin with.
Does Windows make the bell sound when you insert your microsd, if it does you should be able to recover it, if it does not and you have checked the reader is working the microsd might be dead, if you have an sdhc adapter see if a camera or any other device will recognize the card, if it does format it in that device then see if windows will see it, I had an 16GB microsd a few years ago completely die when i froze while i was copying music to my phone, nothing would recognize the card after that it was totally dead, and i got a refund.
john.
snapper.fishes said:
I am using a Samsung 64GB and Link2SD. Haven't encountered any issue so far. But on a related topic, I managed to destroy a 1 year old Sandisk USB drive yesterday while trying to format it as NTFS. Now Windows won't recognise it al all. It could just be that the flash memory had defects to begin with.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Does Windows make the bell sound when you insert your microsd, if it does you should be able to recover it, if it does not and you have checked the reader is working the microsd might be dead, if you have an sdhc adapter see if a camera or any other device will recognize the card, if it does format it in that device then see if windows will see it, I had an 16GB microsd a few years ago completely die when i froze while i was copying music to my phone, nothing would recognize the card after that it was totally dead, and i got a refund.
john.
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Windows does recognize the card, and I can see the contents of it and copy all content OFF the card. However, trying to format it just tells me the disk is write protected. I've done everything in my power to try to unlock the disk, including third-party programs and commands in the DOS prompt, but it's still write-protected. So bizarre!
I had the write protect problem on an card myself a few years ago, I downloaded an app that let me remove the protection and the card worked fine after that.
Does the write protection stop a camera from formatting the card, or only windows, as i said it`s been years since i had my problem.
Have you tried a partition manger app, I have used the one below for years, but i dont know if it will be blocked by the write protection as well.
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
John.
greycobalt said:
Windows does recognize the card, and I can see the contents of it and copy all content OFF the card. However, trying to format it just tells me the disk is write protected. I've done everything in my power to try to unlock the disk, including third-party programs and commands in the DOS prompt, but it's still write-protected. So bizarre!
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I had the write protect problem on an card myself a few years ago, I downloaded an app that let me remove the protection and the card worked fine after that.
Does the write protection stop a camera from formatting the card, or only windows, as i said it`s been years since i had my problem.
Have you tried a partition manger app, I have used the one below for years, but i dont know if it will be blocked by the write protection as well.
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
John.
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I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
I have uploaded the app i used, It years old so i most likely does not work but you can give it a try.
John.
greycobalt said:
I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
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greycobalt said:
I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
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I would download partition wizard with another browser or force chrome to download it. Its a perfectly legitimate app which I've used many a time.
You need a low level format and partitioning software like that. Windows is useless on its own.
Delete the sd card partition, recreate and reformat.
ashyx said:
I would download partition wizard with another browser or force chrome to download it. Its a perfectly legitimate app which I've used many a time.
You need a low level format and partitioning software like that. Windows is useless on its own.
Delete the sd card partition, recreate and reformat.
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I downloaded it through Edge, and everything worked fine. It even seemed like it was going to work, until I hit "apply". Then it sat and thought for a while, and told me there was an error with the format of the disk. Instead of trying to recreate 2 partitions, I tried to just see if it would format at all, and when I applied that change, it said it completed successfully, but the disk was still in it's former state - full of my files, fully readable, and definitely not formatted. I feel like this stupid thing is haunted.
So for this problem, can anyone give me an opinion on whether it's hardware or software based? Such as, do you believe this is happening because it's a Samsung tablet, or with a bug on their current Android version? I'm hesitant to keep putting cards in it, but I want to use my tablet!
Have you flashed or rooted your tablet? , are you on kitkat or lollipop?
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Have you flashed or rooted your tablet? , are you on kitkat or lollipop?
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It was rooted, but it was on stock 5.0.2. I used root to run Link2SD.
Link2SD only moves apps not music, so why did your music disappear, have you used any cleaning apps as they can delete files that you want to keep.
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It was rooted, but it was on stock 5.0.2. I used root to run Link2SD.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Link2SD only moves apps not music, so why did your music disappear, have you used any cleaning apps as they can delete files that you want to keep.
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Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
It sounds like your tablet is loosing the location of the files on your microsd, I would say Link2SD is at fault, I would give the developer a email with the problem your are having and see what they say.
EDIT: I just read the reviews of LINK2SD and some people are reporting files are disappearing.
John.
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Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
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greycobalt said:
Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
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@greycobalt: I recently had Link2SD card stop mounting the 2nd partition (formatted as ext2, that is used for Link2SD).
I'm using a SanDisk 64 GB micro SD.
1) Did you have this same problem? Were you able to recover your app files when you put the SD card into your computer?
2) Oddly enough, I can see the files on the 1st partition of the card, which is formatted to FAT32 and I can see everything on that in file explorer. You said that these even disappear?
3) What file format did you have for your microSD for Link2SD to be able to link apps to it?

How to configure sd card as internal - new phone

Dont recall how i did it on mine but my wife got an g4 as well and i got her an sd card, just cant remember how to configure it as internal memory. I added the card and sent her an image and it said it can't locate the image so obviously i didnt configure it correctly. Any help appreciated
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Dont recall how i did it on mine but my wife got an g4 as well and i got her an sd card, just cant remember how to configure it as internal memory. I added the card and sent her an image and it said it can't locate the image so obviously i didnt configure it correctly. Any help appreciated
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There are many guides for this:
http://bfy.tw/8pVQ
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There are many guides for this:
http://bfy.tw/8pVQ
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I read configuring an SD card for internal storage use is very risky business if you care about the data on that card. Once configured, you cannot read the data in any manner on any other device. And you cannot retrieve data off the card if the phone goes bad. And write and read speeds are slower too.
So because the G4 is known for bootloop issues, this makes it that much more risky. If anything, would suggest backing up data often.
poog said:
I read configuring an SD card for internal storage use is very risky business if you care about the data on that card. Once configured, you cannot read the data in any manner on any other device. And you cannot retrieve data off the card if the phone goes bad. And write and read speeds are slower too.
So because the G4 is known for bootloop issues, this makes it that much more risky. If anything, would suggest backing up data often.
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I dont have any issues with mine. Been using it for 6 months now. I can take the card out, use a card ready and see the contents of the card no issue. Just dont remember how and if i configured the card when i slid it in.
But i tried sending her a picture through whatsapp and it says cant find it on the sd card. As soon as we took it out it saves to internal phone memory and all ia good.
I do want to configure it for her. I do notice my card is 70% filling up and it does have a short delay with the message "saving" when i take a picture that wasnt there when it was empty but no complaints . I will just get a new card and hold the old one as archive. Better option then losing all of my media when my pos htc m7 fell in the sink. Ill take slow speed over no recovery any day. And i dont care for cloud.

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