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Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
dyndragon said:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
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When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.
Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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I unrooted my phone, no problems.
No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip
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After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
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If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.
Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .
but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?
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Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok.
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Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.
So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?
I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.
I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore
I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
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So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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marc91988 said:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.
I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.
I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?
Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to.
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
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does any one know where i can find a stock PC36IMG.zip that is rooted for the latest ota
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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Aren't those completely stock and not rooted?
If you want a stock rooted PC36IMG, your best bet would be the Sprint Lovers ROM. It's about 99.9% stock and comes as a PC36IMG.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
I know for a fact that these are rooted versions of the 3.70 OTA because I have personally flashed both the ODEXED and DEODEXED versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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lol....It's all good, my friend.
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dkdude36 said:
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
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I'm usually the one guilty of missing something....lol....Whew! I feel better now........I'm just having fun, my friend.
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lol. yea i should read better man so dissapointed...
thanks for the help, sprint lover rom it is
I highly recommend you download and flash the stock ODEXED 3.70 rom listed in the link I provided earlier if you want "exactly" the rom you had when you purchased your EVO (rooted, of course).
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Do I need to install one of these to complete an OTA update?
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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you need s-on and to unroot.
Thanks
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
artie-chimney said:
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
dkdude36 said:
yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
A few more questions
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
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Ahhh... So I won't be able to be rooted and use the OTA update for now? I thought I could unroot, install the update, and root again.
I don't use any custom ROMs. Heck, I haven't even changed the original wallpaper. I rooted just for Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup and to use the Root Uninstaller to get rid of the pre-installed apps I didn't want.
I really appreciate the help. I am less confused about the process now, but more confused about aligning my technical goals with what I want to do with my phone.
No. If you unroot and install the OTA, you cannot root again. There is no method yet.
You're best bet is to stay rooted and flash the Stock/Rooted ROM
I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If I'm not mistaken, Autoroot still uses unrevoked forever for nand unlock, so your unrooting method would be the same. Flash s-on zip, then run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG through the bootloader.
The stock Evo recovery is no recovery. Unrooting will delete your custom recovery, so you'll be fine.
Good luck!
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I think you could go to http://theunlockr.com/ down load a stock ROM to your SD card and then flash the ROM to your phone. Sounds like it would work.
A big thank you!!!
After all said and done, I've never known the answer to the question as to the "stock recovery". I've searched for weeks looking for a way to get rid of the clockwork mod recovery and putting the stock recovery back on with no results. I never knew that the stock recovery didn't exist! Now I do. Thank you!
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If I'm not mistaken, Autoroot still uses unrevoked forever for nand unlock, so your unrooting method would be the same. Flash s-on zip, then run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG through the bootloader.
The stock Evo recovery is no recovery. Unrooting will delete your custom recovery, so you'll be fine.
Good luck!
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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I just wanted to update, I was able to get my phone unrooted and back to stock. It all went very smooth. I also was under the impression that there was a stock recovery and was frustrated from searching to no avail. thanks for taking the time to help me out.
It does seem odd that there is no straight forward guide to return your phone to stock. I've been modding phones since the RAZR and there was always an escape route back to stock for every phone I had, except the Evo.
I thought unrEVOked site had decent directions for un-root on their forever root page... (though I've never needed to un-root)
Sent from my Mynioned EVO using XDA App
shadowstalker69 said:
I thought unrEVOked site had decent directions for un-root on their forever root page... (though I've never needed to un-root)
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Correct . . . they do . .
I don't think Custom Recovery replaces stock recovery, it's more like a shell making recovery user friendly and fully functional.
It's like in the early days of Windows. Windows was a shell program while DOS was always there, but you needed a way to access DOS, hence, the command prompt.
(Actually DOS, in a way, is still there)
jeriel05 said:
I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Maybe this will help....
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
hit thanks lol
jeriel05 said:
I just wanted to update, I was able to get my phone uprooted and back to stock. It all went very smooth. I also was under the impression that there was a stock recovery and was frustrated from searching to no avail. thanks for taking the time to help me out.
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How did you finally remove the custom recovery? I have tried to flash the PC36IMG.zip many times and it looks like it was done, but I still have the Recovery option and when I hit it, it will load back the Clockwork custom recovery mode.
How do I bring it back to stock?
I tried to update mine with the official OTA this morning and it fails with the android with the ! icon.
for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
brad560 said:
for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
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brad560,
Thanks for this. This is the most complete and detailed step by step. I went through all the steps and that's exactly what I had gone through. I flashed the S-ON and verified it was working (got the S-ON) then flash the PC3IMG.zip and it went through fine as well.
But when everything was done, I still have the Recovery option and when I selected it, it still brings up Clockwork recovery mode!
What's I'm missing? I just checked the checksum of the PC3IMG.zip file I use, and yes, it shows correct check sum as listed in the instruction above.
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brad560,
Thanks for this. This is the most complete and detailed step by step. I went through all the steps and that's exactly what I had gone through. I flashed the S-ON and verified it was working (got the S-ON) then flash the PC3IMG.zip and it went through fine as well.
But when everything was done, I still have the Recovery option and when I selected it, it still brings up Clockwork recovery mode!
What's I'm missing? I just checked the checksum of the PC3IMG.zip file I use, and yes, it shows correct check sum as listed in the instruction above.
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relly? i have used this method plenty of times with clockwork and ra_ before hand, never had them left over. i did, before i used the method wiped everything 3-4 times before i flashed the files onto my sd card. sorry i don't know why this is happening to you explicitly?
I just tried one more time flashing the PC3IMG.zip and this time it works!
It went through 2 iterations (reboot in between then continue to the next step) and I'm back to a new phone! Finally! Thanks again for your help and the detailed instruction!
jeriel05 said:
I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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could you please help me??? i need to unroot my phone how did you do it.. please help
brad560 said:
for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
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WOW, that is the most complete, detailed walk-through I've ever seen, I think... Awesome job!
I bookmarked it for future reference, even though I've run RUU before with no problems
Oh so close to undoing my huge mistake. After hours I was finally able to get to recovery menu after following directions of how to unroot through unrecover forever. I am the step of applying the zip unrevoked forever, at the end it says unsupported radio version. What do I do
renemay24 said:
could you please help me??? i need to unroot my phone how did you do it.. please help
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When I had to return my phone due to a bad usb port it took all of five minutes and is not as difficult as you guys are making it out to seem. Actually you can do an OTA update which will unroot you. Of course depending on what OS you are running and there are tons of threads with the RUU which is how I did it.
Plugged my phone up crossed my fingers that my USB Port would hold out and ran the .exe or you can use the PC36IMG.zip file that is in the same threads. Then flash unrevoked S-on zip and your back to stock
Shipped Roms
View attachment unrevoked-forever-son.zip
If anyone's interested, I made a tutorial a while ago on RUU'ing an EVO back to 100% stock. You can find it here: http://j.mp/ruuevo4g
My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks
AbuYahya said:
My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks
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If you are still S-OFF as u say u are, just download the Superuser App from the play store, update binary in the app options and then reboot. You should be rooted then. If you update to GB never flash a froyo RUU again...you will mess the bootloader and that seems to be trendy!! :good:
Hey guys, so I have to give my phone back to Verizon for the Edge plan... to cover my a$$ and avoid anything going wrong I wanted to return the phone as close to stock as possible.
I want to avoid S-off/S-on tampering and using RUU because I'm already off the VZW network with this device and I won't be able to do any OTA's plus I don't trust myself enough to go back to S-on without messing something up
So I wanted to know if I could just relock the bootloader and unroot the device without having to S-on again or use RUU?
If someone could kindly point me in the right/easiest direction to do this that would be great as I have been searching for the past 4 hours trying to figure it out lol
Flash the faux hboot made by santod(this is purely cosmetic and makes the hboot appear locked and s on without a tampered flag). Then flash the stock odexed full rom, flash the stock recovery and then unroot.
Robedom said:
Hey guys, so I have to give my phone back to Verizon for the Edge plan... to cover my a$$ and avoid anything going wrong I wanted to return the phone as close to stock as possible.
I want to avoid S-off/S-on tampering and using RUU because I'm already off the VZW network with this device and I won't be able to do any OTA's plus I don't trust myself enough to go back to S-on without messing something up
So I wanted to know if I could just relock the bootloader and unroot the device without having to S-on again or use RUU?
If someone could kindly point me in the right/easiest direction to do this that would be great as I have been searching for the past 4 hours trying to figure it out lol
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Flash the faux hboot, then flash stock rom disconnecktie pointed out , then HTC recovery.
this will appear 100% stock.
let me know if you need any more help
synisterwolf said:
Flash the faux hboot, then flash stock rom that Andy made, flash secure kernel, then HTC recovery.
this will appear 100% stock.
let me know if you need any more help
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The full stock rom from Santod actually contains the secure kernel already. Just sayin
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The full stock rom from Santod actually contains the secure kernel already. Just sayin
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i forgot, thank you. i will edit.
Alright so I got the fake hboot flashed as well as stock odex'd full with all the bloatware. Do I flash HTC recovery before unrooting? How do I unroot? Having Superuser in the app drawer might be a dead giveaway
Yes flash the stock HTC recovery first. Then open Supersu. Go into the setting and select full unroot. After that you should be able to uninstall it.
Perfect! Everything worked and it looks fresh out of the box. Thank you guys for all your help!