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Hi all,
Apologies if this sounds like a noob question.
I've done some reading about rooting here on xda forums and have few questions. I have an HTC Desire (2.2) and am very new to the Android platform. Been a Symbian user forever and know pretty well about flashing/hacking wrt to Nokia phones..
Questions:
Say, I plan to root my device, is it mandatory to load it with custom ROM like Cyanogen, etc?? Would not loading a custom ROM only improve phone's performance, etc?
Can I ONLY root the phone and NOT install any custom ROMs? Also, what are the pros and cons of ONLY rooting and NOT installing any custom ROMs?
Also, does rooting really void warranty? There are various threads where different people have different theories? Is the warranty (if rooted) specific to a country?
EDIT: Also, would I still receive Gingerbread update (if it releases anytime soon) on my rooted Desire in the future? Or would I have to un-root it, and is un-rooting the device possible?
Cheers!
Do some more reading, find out why you want to root (not because that is what all the cool kids do:, thats not a good reason) and when you really know what you want and know what you are about to do all your questions should be answered.
unrEVOked only roots the phone and flashed a custom recovery which you can use to flash a custom ROM. You don't, however, need to flash a new ROM
Before you doing anything, though, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the software version.
Once you've made a note, try and find the RUU matching it here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
If there is one, download it and keep it safe for warranty issues
TheGhost1233 said:
Do some more reading, find out why you want to root (not because that is what all the cool kids do:, thats not a good reason) and when you really know what you want and know what you are about to do all your questions should be answered.
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Not what I expected. Oh, and yes, I don't wanna be cool whatsoever. I pretty much know the benefits of rooting and custom ROM.. Those were just few questions I wanted an expert opinion, which I wouldn't find anywhere on reading the excellent extensive how-tos.
EddyOS said:
unrEVOked only roots the phone and flashed a custom recovery which you can use to flash a custom ROM. You don't, however, need to flash a new ROM
Before you doing anything, though, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the software version.
Once you've made a note, try and find the RUU matching it here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
If there is one, download it and keep it safe for warranty issues
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Thanks mate..
Also you won't receive the gingerbread OTA (that is if it's coming soon or any time :/) You could flash the gingerbread update on a rooted phone but this will probably mess things up so it's better to first unroot (which is possible) to stock rom and then apply the OTA.
Your phone should not be rooted when you are returning it for warranty. Rooting is hacking the OS, so it's not like you have not "played" too much with the device. I've read a few post however that not all repair services check for superuser permissions or a custom rom but you shouldn't rely on that.
What you benefit from using a custom rom are things like:
Code:
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[*]Camera is working (no 720p recording yet, dont even try it!!) [B]THANKS TO SNQ-[/B] [B] *New[/B]
[*]Base - WWE 1.32.405.6
[*]Deodexed, thanx Pyr0x64 for that [IMG]http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
[*]2.6.32.15RCKernel_b46 Speed Up to 1300 Thanx Capychimp for that[B] *New[/B]
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815557"]SD read fix, thx frankoid.[/URL]
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818616"]Lzma, thx snq-.[/URL] Lzma means smaller boot.img, should help with the write boot.img issue.
Now the kernel is capable to go up to 1305MHz for real (thanks snq- for pointing out previous bug).
So [B]be cautious when overclocking[/B], my device is stable up to 1190(~1800 quadrant), over that it hangs or reboots.
[COLOR=DarkRed]Overclock with[/COLOR] [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419"]SetCpu[/URL]
[*]Default speed stock [B]254-998.4 MHz.[/B]
[*]DSP Manager[B] *New[/B]
[*]Busybox, Root, Superuser...
[*]Cyanogen A2SD script, moves both apps and dalvik to ext
[*]Automatic ZipAlign by Wes Garner, slightly adjusted by me.
[*]Showing protected apps, i hope [IMG]http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
[*]Modded Power Menu Thanx again snq-
[*]Touch pad unlock, first press wake up, second press unlock [IMG]http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] Thanx snq- for that again
[*]Custom Semitransparent Notification area
[*]Rom Manager (can fix permissions now)[B] *New[/B]
[*]Screenstate scaling
- screen on - smartass [B] *New[/B]
- screen off - powersave
[*]ext4, tun, cif, etc... all modules are there, insmod if needed.
[*]Host file moved from system, users with s-on should be able to use AdBlock (need to be tested)[B] *New[/B]
[*]Bootanimation/downanimation and bootsound moved to sd-ext/local for easier customization[B] *New[/B]
(if you want bootsound you have to add it by your self [IMG]http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG])
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The above is just a quote from the RCMixHD ROM, but as you see there are plenty of tech jargon so you should give it some extensive reading to understand them.
EddyOS said:
unrEVOked only roots the phone and flashed a custom recovery which you can use to flash a custom ROM. You don't, however, need to flash a new ROM
Before you doing anything, though, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the software version.
Once you've made a note, try and find the RUU matching it here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
If there is one, download it and keep it safe for warranty issues
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Got a question mate:
My baseband version is - 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 and software number is 2.13.720.2
I do not find a matching RUU for the corresponding software number. Although I did locate the RUU for the baseband version..
Is that the one I'd need in future
Hi,
Today my Defy arrived
Now I have read many threads about the phone and the firmware, but soneones making me confused and other ones doesnt answer my questtions.
So, what I want to know is:
1. Wich is the really latest firmware for the Defy with the red lense? Done
2. when Im going to install CM7, must be flashed an stock froyo rom before? Done
3. because swype is preinstalled in the firmware, how can i update it to the latest version? Done
4. how can i make my own swype theme?
I think thats all (for now )
Greetings
I'll only answer to the ones that I know the answer...
2. The instructions say that you should. Also, from what I read, every tutorial says that you should go to stock. Also, a wipe could be advisable (not to inherit problems and bad settings from the previous ROM)
3. You can get it from the official site. As far as I've noticed CM7 doesn't come with Swype.
Hopefully someone else answers the other two questions.
Have a nice day!
And I'll take the opportunity to ask a few somewhat related noobie questions:
"the Defy with the red lens"
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I've seen a few mentions of different lens colours. What is this? (link to explanation is fine) ETA: Found it myself. Really stupid to ask. Bottom line ATM seems to be that for phones recently manufactured the lens colour is not a reliable indicator of camera module used.
"every tutorial says that you should go to stock" (before flashing)
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Doesn't this mean that you don't need to do anything special (maybe wipe everything, but maybe not that important?) when you flash a new ROM into the phone for the first time?
Or would you still need to first flash a plain stock ROM if your phone came with some telco-provided crappy stuff in the ROM, before flashing a custom ROM?
(Purely hypothetical question for me.)
Bumping this, because I am getting to closer to actually start rooting around (hah!) in the innards of my phone, and I keep wondering about this:
Aspsusa said:
Doesn't this mean that you don't need to do anything special (maybe wipe everything, but maybe not that important?) when you flash a new ROM into the phone for the first time?
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So do I need to flash _another_ stock ROM before I switch to cyanogen or whatever, if my phone is a virgin that came with the stock nordic rom (moto_version.34.177.5.MB525.retail.en.ND/jorem_U3_3.4.2_177-5)?
It somehow seems redundant to me to flash another stock to my phone when I already have a stock froyo (without blur even) on it.
BTW, given the focus of this forum you are all being very very kind to us noobs. Upthread I asked a really really really stupid question (I'll see if I can edit out), and nobody threw rocks at me .
I am still wondering though whether anyone can recommend an alternative forum more suited to Really Basic Questions?
Just root, install second init for recovery, then flash cyanogen...
If you click devices at their website, you can grab the latest nightly ROM, and you will also find the wiki, which has a step by step on how to do everything.
It's really simple, just keep glued too the instructions.
Good luck
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Bumping this, because I am getting to closer to actually start rooting around (hah!) in the innards of my phone, and I keep wondering about this:
So do I need to flash _another_ stock ROM before I switch to cyanogen or whatever, if my phone is a virgin that came with the stock nordic rom (moto_version.34.177.5.MB525.retail.en.ND/jorem_U3_3.4.2_177-5)?
It somehow seems redundant to me to flash another stock to my phone when I already have a stock froyo (without blur even) on it.
BTW, given the focus of this forum you are all being very very kind to us noobs. Upthread I asked a really really really stupid question (I'll see if I can edit out), and nobody threw rocks at me .
I am still wondering though whether anyone can recommend an alternative forum more suited to Really Basic Questions?
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It is recommended as a precaution for a failsafe install but you can install CM7 on any stock 2.2 or above rom.
Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk
ryan8r said:
It is recommended as a precaution for a failsafe install but you can install CM7 on any stock 2.2 or above rom.
Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk
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Took the words right out of my mind...
Sometimes I skip right past the important stuff. Lol
hi,
Everythinbg excepted 4. is solved by my own.
For now i just need to know hox to make my own Swypw skin.
BTW: I hate Threadhooligans
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BTW: I hate Threadhooligans
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Mean me? Wanna fight?
BTW, it would be good if you'd change the topic back, or put the old topic in parenthesis to the new one or something. Something like
[request]Swype-skinning ([solved]stock froyo first & red lens latest)
might be good
I was wondering why I was subscribed to a thread about swype-skinning, as it couldn't be further from my interests, but never mind that - there's good info in this thread not related to swype.
Aspsusa said:
BTW, it would be good if you'd change the topic back, or put the old topic in parenthesis to the new one or something. Something like
[request]Swype-skinning ([solved]stock froyo first & red lens latest)
might be good
I was wondering why I was subscribed to a thread about swype-skinning, .
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Exactly. I was confused, and for an instant, lost in space.. Lol
You big thread hooligan, Mr gentleman
Edit:
To answer your question,
You should probably check with Swype to see if skinning is even capable with their app... (or potentially even allowed)
To my knowledge, skinning Swype is uncharted territory...the app is in beta still.
Some advanced knowledge of Android would be required to hack, disassemble, and recompile any themes for it.
First, i would like to congratulate every xda-developer for making this place.
My problem-
I want to install custom ROMs on my, 3 months old, phone DEFY+ (simple right??).
Thing is, i tried reading some threads related to "installing custom ROMs on DEFY+" but they all seem to leave a lot of unanswered question.
Here are my phone's specs-
rooted
system version - 45.0.891.MB526
Android version - 2.3.4
Kernel - 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e
Build No. - 4.5.1-134_DFP-891
Burning points-
1. One thread suggests that kernel that came with android 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 are too uncommon and most of the CUSTOME ROMS are compatible with 2.3.6
Solution: ?? should i update my android version
2. Some threads suggest once i install custom ROM on defy+ i can't go back to stock rom
3. this thread say that you can get stuck on stock firmware after going back to stock firmware
4. Will i be able to access my purchased apps from the google play?
Can someone please guide us (defy+ owners) on how to install ICS or CM7.2, minimizing the mortal danger of bricking our precious.
A list of latest roms available for DEFY+ would be a bonus for us.
Thanks for reading. Please Help!
lief.erl said:
4. Will i be able to access my purchased apps from the google play?
Thanks for reading. Please Help!
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4. Yes, don't worry. Your Google Play purchases are tied to your Google account, so they will be accessible with any Android ROM/phone that uses the account on which they were bought. So, as long as you won't forget your account password and use an Android phone, they'll stick with you (even if they're not compatible with your new phone, they'll still be there) .
1. if u do update...then flash only those sbf's before DFP 188.....coz dfp 188'231 etc have bl7 ....n root access has not yet been acquired.....n since 2.3.6 would be better than 2.3.4 dun worry....i would suggest this coz this is what i use....
2. u can if u hav the right sbf.....or...make a nandroid backup of ur stock rom ....(which would obviously be rooted)
4. i think yes...because purchased apps are linked to ur google account and not to the phone.
5. maybe a thousand guides r available...sigh....try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100.....
ps. if u get any update binary errors while installation....try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540372....but this happened to ME.....i was on 2.3.6 n made a couple of mistakkes...now it works....1!!!!
Can some one please post a simple step by step guide for installing custom roms on defy+ (specifications mentioned in my first post).
I have really tried but its so confusing.
At present my phone is rooted and nothing more (no boot menu, CWM, etc.)
Please help!!
Hello guys,
I'm new to this forum but I read it from time to time since a few months.
I own an Iconia Tab A101 that I already rooted and so far I haven't received the OTA update toward ICS probably beacuse I used a Stock Rom from Vache which is not a full stock rom.
I already found few ICS ROMs but as I use this tablet for my job, I don't want to mess up with it. So far it dosen't say it would work with an Iconia A101, but only a A100. Did anyone already tried it on the A101 ? (I can't aford to lose my 3G conection/driver as I use it everyday to send my jobs forms)
Is there any way I could upgrade toward ICS without losing my applications and datas ? (I can handle the root and adhoc/wpasuplicant issue later..)
I wish I could install/use Nandroid to get a full backup of my tablet before just in case.... Would you advise me to use that application ? How do I do that ?
I alreadytried to install CWM but failed to it. I probably did something wrong or in the wrong order.
Anyway thanks for your help ! I love this forum.
Best regards
Fabien
Try looking harder. There's a leak of the official A101 ICS ROM in the development section.
The official A101 ICS ROM in the development section
FloatingFatMan said:
Try looking harder. There's a leak of the official A101 ICS ROM in the development section.
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Would you be so kind and point me/us to the leak of the official A101 ICS ROM in the development section?
I wasn't able to find it...
Thank you,
Adrian
Try this link http://narod.ru/disk/47785011001.df...cer_AV041_A101_0.004.00_WW_GEN1-root.zip.html (CWM version)
Infomediasvc said:
I already found few ICS ROMs but as I use this tablet for my job, I don't want to mess up with it. So far it dosen't say it would work with an Iconia A101, but only a A100. Did anyone already tried it on the A101 ? (I can't aford to lose my 3G conection/driver as I use it everyday to send my jobs forms)
Is there any way I could upgrade toward ICS without losing my applications and datas ? (I can handle the root and adhoc/wpasuplicant issue later..)
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Acer didn't release ICS for A101 yet, so it's normal that you didn't receive OTA upgrade.
There is a leak of an old ICS build for A101 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25561591&postcount=6
I'm running it and it works fine. I just needed to delete and recreate APN, as the migrated one was disabled for some reason.
(P.S. You need to install all four update.zip from the archive in order. These are incremental and you cannot skip any.)
Thank you leomatt & smokku for you quick and clear answers. That's the spirit!
Thanks again,
Adrian
Thank you so much ! It worked like a charm.
Next step will be root (again), and adhoc support.
This may help:
1.Load Update1.zip onta a SD card. Rename it Update.zip. THIS IS IMPORTANT!
2. Press POWER and VOL- (the top vol button) and flash the ROM. The reboot will hang. Just power off and continue.
3. Repeat for the remaining updates, one at a time.
4. The final reboot will work and the ROM will be flashed. If error messages are encountered or constant rebooting is experienced, do a factory restart.
This worked for me and restored my Acer back to A101. (I had loaded ICS for A100 and lost 3g...I can't help fiddling with things I don't understand........
GrigAdri said:
Thank you leomatt & smokku for you quick and clear answers. That's the spirit!
Thanks again,
Adrian
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Hey. No need to thank me for telling you it even existed in the first place, that's perfectly OK.
For someone so utterly incapable of finding something so simple (seriously, third hit on a search), I suggest you don't even THINK about flashing it; you'll brick your tab.
Someday you'll get, that this forum is about people helping each other, not feeling superior to others.
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Hey. No need to thank me for telling you it even existed in the first place, that's perfectly OK.
For someone so utterly incapable of finding something so simple (seriously, third hit on a search), I suggest you don't even THINK about flashing it; you'll brick your tab.
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Insulting people is a bad habit. Some day you will find out why!
Details ?
FloatingFatMan said:
Hey. No need to thank me for telling you it even existed in the first place, that's perfectly OK.
For someone so utterly incapable of finding something so simple (seriously, third hit on a search), I suggest you don't even THINK about flashing it; you'll brick your tab.
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This link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25561591&postcount=6
i about an OFFICIAL rom, not a stock rom modified, or a leaked one, etc..
It would be great if you guys could CLEARLY say what is made for ?
If it's for A100, its for A100, A101 for A101, etc... as well as for which kind of rom it is made for, etc ?
For someone who is used to it, it's easy ! However, even for a newbie there is nothing about Android terminology ! The poor guy is lost and nothing makes sense to him/her.
For example : ROM means Read Only Memory (as oposed to Ram which is Random Access Memory (volatile memory) ) right !!!
Well if the ROM is the operating system, then you don't only read it as you also write in it and can replace its content as well ! However, Android (the os) is a ROM !! Even for someone coming from the IT world, it's kind of confusing ! ;-)
By the way, it says not to install Busybox, but I had to, after to fix some apps.
The wpa_suplicant file however doesn't fix the adhoc issue so far.
I'll get back to the old file in the meantime.
Infomediasvc said:
i about an OFFICIAL rom, not a stock rom modified, or a leaked one, etc..
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There isn't one.
Are you happy now?
smokku said:
There isn't one.
Are you happy now?
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Quite happy !
Didn't I read oficial in "Path for the official A101 updating to ICS" ?
GrigAdri said:
Insulting people is a bad habit. Some day you will find out why!
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I didn't insult anyone, but I can, if you like.
Hello to everybody !!!
I am new on xda developers and also new to android.I have been made a lot of mods on my previous phone iPhone.
I bought a new LG G3 D855 32 GB in Greece
I want to root my phone ,flash a rom but i dont know how.
I am very confused with the threads.
Please can somebody tell me :
1 )how to root
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)
Konstantinosdj said:
Hello to everybody !!!
I am new on xda developers and also new to android.I have been made a lot of mods on my previous phone iPhone.
I bought a new LG G3 D855 32 GB in Greece
I want to root my phone ,flash a rom but i dont know how.
I am very confused with the threads.
Please can somebody tell me :
1 )how to root
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)
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Welcome to Android!
I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun
Typically you'll find a tab saying root info for each phone model in the forum. However, these tabs (same for ROMs) are typically not as updated as the forum threads. You'll find most info/guides for that kind of stuff in general, seeing how in most cases in concerns the phone in general, more-so than a specific development for the phone (such as a specific phone).
Make sure you carefully read the original post for each software seeing how different softwares can only be used in certain situations. For example, the LG G3 comes in different models, and some software only work for the specific ones, some things are developed for certain android versions (such as lollipop vs. kitkat), some softwares are developed for stock-based roms, and some are developed for aosp-based roms, and the list goes on.
It's not as complicated as it sounds, and it doesn't take as long as you might imagine to get settled, but it takes some getting used to.
To answer your specific questions:
1 )how to root
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
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1. After you've rooted your phone, you need to install a custom recovery (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-thread-lg-g3-question-t2947298, check Q4).
2. When done with that you download a [ROM (whatever the rom is called)].zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772658), and typically Gapps, and place on SD card.
3. Boot into recovery, and wipe the phone (I usually go for factory reset/make fresh install + wipe cache + wipe Dalvik-cache)
4. Now you need to flash the ROM + gapps. Do that by install zip --> install from SD card --> click the [ROM].zip (and then gapps)
5. Reboot and enjoy!
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
I'll admit that I have not read the specifics of each thread I've linked, so make sure that it applies to you before you go about and install stuff (by reading first post in each thread). Also, how you install might differ a little from rom to rom, so only use my instructions as additional instructions to the instructions typically written in the first post for each rom/software.
Note! Everytime you go about fiddling with the phone you do run the risk of bricking it. However, the risk of hard bricking your phone is quite slim as long as you read up a bit before messing about. On top of that, if anything would happen, such as a bootloop or soft bricking, just keep it cool. It happens to all of us from time to time, and I'll bet you that the very same thing you did wrong, has happened to someone before you, so just search the threads (starting with the thread it relates to). If you feel like playing safe, I would suggest you start off with one of the more established ROM-devs, such as CM.
I hope this helps!
Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??
Konstantinosdj said:
Anybody ????
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Tip for the future: check out the pinned threads in each sub-forum because they typically pin threads concerning questions that arise often (such as how to get started)
Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??
Konstantinosdj said:
Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??
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No worries! I know it can be difficult getting started
Well, it's different firmwares sometimes (eg different stocks). This is typically clearly pointed out in the instructions if that is the case. I have not encountered that where it comes to the custom ROMs, except for making sure you have the right model (eg D855). After you've installed a new ROM, you might want to go to settings --> about phone to check the information for any clues of using the wrong software.