On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?
carcomp said:
On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?
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can you make an instruction how did you manage to run android on hermes?? some links and screenshots??
thanks
The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
Good ROM that boots Google Andoird all the time: [May 22] Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Test Version
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394202
Cab file (Credit goes to: SH4Y):
http://rapidshare.com/files/11262391..._Installer.CAB
http://www.filedropper.com/sh4ysandrioduiinstaller
Latest zImage (Credit goes to: dcordes):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...7&d=1211818766
Latest HaReT:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
For more info: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
Booting Google Android
1. Goto: Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Android.
2. Pres: Listen for network connection. Meanwhile also press run (Doing this makes Android boot most of the time).
3. Google Android is now booting or you're Kaise freezes.
4. Have fun or Soft-Reset!
If Android Is Not Booting?!?!? (Even after 20 tries). Run ClearTemp... http://www.4shared.com/file/50007273...ClearTemp.html Then Boot again!!
Menu
At this moment there is no back key mapped. So the only way to get out of the menu is by soft-reset. Ppl are working on this issue, tyring to map de back key.
FREEZES
You are probably using the original zImage of SH4Y'S CAB. Use one of the latest zImages...
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All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.
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Whoops! not so fast.
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The phone power, reset and AT CMD serial port settings are missing
in the hh.org CVS kernel. It's not very difficult to do, but nobody
has done it so far.
Interesting...Here's the original hermes discussion thread on linux (over 100 posts):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273579&page=5&highlight=Android
Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!
jompao said:
Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!
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Honestly I was thinking of jumping ships to either an iphone or a clone but I think I may wait a year and see what happens to the hermes with android. It would be nice to get it and play with it for a while so in a year I will know exactly what I want to buy and the market will have settled down a little bit.
I have compiled new zImage and HaRET. In default.txt I have lines:
Code:
set kernel zImage
set initrd initrd-android
set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0"
boot
I loaded newest initrd-android from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
With these settings Hermes boots and it even set system clock (2028-07-05 10:40:21 ) but hangs after that, HaRet says in last line: "Freeing init memory 88k" and thats it. The initrd-android is not for Hermes and I don`t know how to make new one for Hermes. Or is this memory freeing thing more about problems with zImage?
Did you compiled it with the HTC HERMES flag?
Maybe you can upload the zimage/Harret to your post? sow more people can play with it... would be cool.
I also tried to compile a new zimage...it compiled, but it stucked at booting it with Harret. "Load kernel image" (or something like that)
Here it is. I used branch "work" and from there you can found htchermes_defconfig.
Thx..
I have the same issue as you have
But it dont give any error messages...and some key's on the keyboard(buttons) still give some respons on the screen...
And when you boot it with the usb connector with it, it says something more about that conexxion..
carcomp said:
The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.
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I can't even run haret.exe (the android entry in Accessories). It says it's not a valid Pocket PC application. Any ideas??
I'm running CRC's WM6.1 v11.0.
Android Running on HTC Hermes
Hi guys, I've two days trying to run android on my htc herm100 but I can't do it. Someome may help me to compile a new kernel whit the features of my htc?? The only thing that i did was run linux on my device.
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel
veyka said:
People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel
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dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.
GldRush98 said:
dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.
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Ahh! Seems you know more about it than I do ^^ Well, I dont expect my Hermes to, but hopefully my Kaiser
GldRush98 said:
Haret will never run on the Hermes
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what do you mean when you say that? I have used Haret on Hermes.
GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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is this some kind of a subliminal reverse-psychology message designed to challenge some dormant genius out there to waste a coupla month of his life to prove u wrong for the benefit of everyone else here at xda-dev?! ... if so, keep it up.. I hope such genius(es) picks up this post and gets all fired up and go "HOW DARE HE! I'LL SHOW HIM"... then.. *tick...tick...tick*.....*ping!*...
oh and while ur at it... Android will NEVER run on the Trinity either!!!
Funny thing....
Hi there,
it's getting funny how many poeple out there discuss the android on hermes issue.
Basically it's not the speed of MPU or a memory issue on hermes platform.
I'm quite sure that android would do it quite well on a machine with 400MHz and 64MB of RAM .
Android in fact has another important basic requirement:
It will require at least Xscale CPU or SoC with ARM926 or higher to run properly.
All binaries in the root filesystem of android are compiled to run on an ARM platform with at least V5 instruction set.
Some older devices use some kind of PXA SoC's or OMAP SoC's which talk V5.
That's why android may be ported to run on those .
Hermes uses ARM920T SoC with ARMv4 instruction set, so a standard Android root image will not work.
That's the reason why it will be very evil thing to make it ever run on the hermes platfrom.
Someone has to fix all parts of the source code that requires V5 instructions and do a complete compile of all binaries suitable for V4 command set.
Of course to do all this a nearly complete linux subset is needed too.
As already mentioned the kernel for hermes is far away from some kind of usability .
Nevertheless, it would be very cool to get any kind of linux run nicely on hermes. Please help out with reverse engineering and writing drivers to make this come true. Perhaps also other dreams may become reality this way
Best regards,
scholbert
I´m having a small problem: I use a cooked ROM but some friends don´t and sometimes, when they have a question I get into trouble, because their ROM looks different and some settings are in different places.
So my tought is: why not use an emulator so that I can see their ROM on the pc and can then give hints far quicker and without the need to my hands on that
I´ve searched quite a while but found nothing regarding this matter. All I´ve seen is the MS device emulator but I don´t know if that loads different ROMs than the ones that come from MS.
Therefor my question is: does anyone know of a ROM emulator for a pc?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
cu,
Thilo
this may help http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...12-CA31-4BE9-A3BF-B9BF4F64CE72&displaylang=en
I used this and also the Microsoft Developer Studio platform contains built in emulators, but there is no (easy) way you will be able to emulate Diamond or other ROMs in it - the hardware phones are generic devices. There are images for WM6 and 6.1 also. It's great fun installing TomTom etc and testing that sort of thing on your PC, but custom ROMs...not likely.
The MS Studio WM6.1 images are in a .msi file which is a 280Mb download.
Check this and the links at the bottow:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-12E3-4B2F-A394-356E2C2FB114&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3a-a651-4745-88ef-3d48091a390b&displaylang=en
However, I'm 99% sure one of their emulators hosed my PC totally (Probably the CE 5 one). Not sure what or how it happened but a key file (related to the emulator) got corrupted and trashed XP.....ordinarlily I'd have laughed at that suggestion - except I had to rebuild my PC as a result.
Ok, so I´ll do a complete backup (image) first .
I´ll try your suggested MS software product tomorrow. Of course I don´t want to be able to simulate the gyro sensors, the build-in gps functionality and so on.
It would suit me just to be able to simulate e.g. the original t-mobile ROM or the original HTC ROM.
I´ll check what can be done in that direction.
Thanks for your suggestions!
bye,
Thilo
Hi, new at this, I got given a HTC touch that is running windows mobile in norwegen or something. Would like to put on a new os, WM6 or later, or even try some of the after market os's but I need a bit of a guide and lack the termonology to figuire out half of what's on this site.
Got told I need to do some basic hacking and flashing of roms or something because the os language is harder to change then a setting in the OS itself, I don't need to back up any of the stuff so just a guid and perhaps a few deffinitions for some of the words/terms used would be really helpful. Allong with links to what ever software utilities I would need to make the update/change. Currently I'm working on a desktop with vista 64 and another with vista 32 so as long as the utilities work on either of those platforms I can use them.
Thanks in advance for any help/links any of you give me.
Hi,
I have been an old HTC Kaiser, and have been experimenting with Android using Haret, running on top of Windows Mobile 6.1 .
I found Myn's Warm Donut ran well, but that the camera and sound, e.g. ringtones, did not function.
I have spent hours searching the Internet, and found the most people who have tried to fix it have failed and those that did had to sacrifice another feature such as wireless.
Can anyone recommend an Android install that will run on Haret on my Kaiser and allows the camera to function ?
All replies are appreciated.
Regards
GW
you need to make sure have the right kernel or the update for the kernel (zimage is the kernel) check the posts in the build and you should find something (use search).
Hi guys,I open this thread, because there are many possibilities that you can boot a Linux distribution on the HTC Artemis, Debian or Ubuntu for example, and even perform well. Who would not want to have a fully functional PDA with Linux. Rhobuntu, caught my attention because it is a Ubuntu distribution, and is well optimized for ARM devices. Rhobuntu currently it supports HTC Elf which is very similar to the HTC Artemis in terms of hardware, so I tried to boot it, and went partly well, because desktop interface is blocked ,due to the touchscreen malfunction(touchscreen does not respond).This might be a problem with Xorg driver ,or a kernel one(this kernel is build for HTC Elf,and here it might be a problem).
However, it would be good if there was official support for HTC Artemis. Anyone who wants to try Rhobuntu on HTC ARTEMIS can download files from here
I would recommend you to try 9.04 Rhobuntu 09_11_2010. If you have problems booting it ,you might need to change to init file in the ubuntu.img with the one in the link.
Here is a link to the official Rhobuntu on HTC Elf click me!
If you have questions, do not hesitate to ask me!
Cheers!
Here are some shots i've made:
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Wow. How much space does it take? What seems to work?
You need a FAT32 2GB micro Sd ,1,6GB FREE SPACE fo Ubuntu Image.Everything is working, except the keypads and touchscreen! Basically the desktop interface can not be used.We need a new kernel for HTC Artemis,and a proper touchscreen detection and calibration! I could try to compile a new kernel for Artemis, but i don't have a kernel patch for Artemis Board.
Could anyone help me with a proper kernel patch for Artemis Board(kernel patch 2,6,27<->2,6,38)?