[Q] Bell Desire Z on Fido - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Every single time I read through the forums, I get more confused.
I'd like to buy a Bell (Canada) Desire Z and unlock it for use on Fido, so I'd like to know, will I get full 3G/3.5G running on Fido/Rogers (They are the same network, aren't they?)?
I'm also assuming that voice, edge and 2G will work (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong on any count).
Also, if someone who has done this is willing to share where they got the unlock code from, I'd be grateful.
Thanks for being patient with me, I'm new to Android, unlocked phones and jumping carriers.
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DG

draginox said:
Hi,
Every single time I read through the forums, I get more confused.
I'd like to buy a Bell (Canada) Desire Z and unlock it for use on Fido, so I'd like to know, will I get full 3G/3.5G running on Fido/Rogers (They are the same network, aren't they?)?
I'm also assuming that voice, edge and 2G will work (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong on any count).
Also, if someone who has done this is willing to share where they got the unlock code from, I'd be grateful.
Thanks for being patient with me, I'm new to Android, unlocked phones and jumping carriers.
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DG
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The Desire Z (model A7275 has to be this exact model) from Bell Canada works with 850/1900MHZ 3G including AT&T, FIDO, ROGERS. Just buy the phone and run gfree (option -S | --sim_unlock: remove the SIMLOCK) on it and it will be unlocked to work on any carrier, you can also run -f option and root it radio s-off and super CID it for running other carrier roms on it.
Or you can buy them already sim unlocked to run on any carrier, I ran a search on goggle and found this:
http://www.canadasatellite.ca/HTC-D...Unlocked-p/htc-desire-z-a7275-grey-hspa-u.htm
Gfree Wiki page found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF

Hi joemm,
Thanks a lot for the response!
While I stopped following after "just buy the phone" (I'm a noob) I understand that the phone is available from Canada satellite - however, on the page you have linked to, I see two of them one of which is cheaper than the other (by $30).
As I understand it, the cheaper one is NOT unlocked meaning I have to do it myself to use it on Fido. However, you have indicated in your post that one can do this "at home" with gfree. Can you please clarify as to whether my interpretation is correct?
Thanks.
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DG

draginox said:
Hi joemm,
Thanks a lot for the response!
While I stopped following after "just buy the phone" (I'm a noob) I understand that the phone is available from Canada satellite - however, on the page you have linked to, I see two of them one of which is cheaper than the other (by $30).
As I understand it, the cheaper one is NOT unlocked meaning I have to do it myself to use it on Fido. However, you have indicated in your post that one can do this "at home" with gfree. Can you please clarify as to whether my interpretation is correct?
Thanks.
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DG
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Yes, you can sim unlock it at home by using the gfree method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF

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Unlock Telus HTC TP2

Hi !
I will be travelling to europe and i would like to unlock my HTC Touch pro 2 to be able to use it with the local provider (the price of using the Telus simcard is enormous !!!)
so....
I know that such unlocking software exists, and i allready used one of the websites (i can't remember the name) where you give your IMEI and someone reply to you with the appropriate unlock code for your particular device
I don't know if it is feasible with the htc touch pro 2 ????
Could somebody help me
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I have unlocked mine successfully and if you search PPCGeeks there are several threads there discussing it. I tested mine with a friends SIM from Rogers and it worked like a charm. I bought my unlock code from glowbearunlocks4u on eBay for $13.00 US, so check there.
Here is my question. Can you still use your TELUS number once you unlock the phone.
I tried to put the telus sim into a unlocked phone and it didnt work so (Bummer)... I want to use the GSM but still want the CDMA... very important in my situation...
let me know thanks.

Mytouch Slide on AT&T question

Hello all, I'm about to purchase a Mytouch Slide for use with AT&T, and wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have any issues with anything not working (GPS, SMS/MMS, etc.). I know I won't have AT&T 3G, only EDGE, but I can live with that. I searched but found very llittle on the subject, I'm assuming thats because both this handset, and this section of the forum, is fairly new.
Hopefully I'll be able to learn more about the handset in the next few weeks, and be abe to start helping others around here too. This appears to be a rather productive, professional forum. To that end, I'll say thanks in advance
What exactly are you asking.
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
eugene373 said:
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
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What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
TakoLuffer said:
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what your post says. The MyTouch Slide is significantly more than $300 new. It was posted above that they can't be unlocked. Are you stating that infact isn't true, and they can be?
kendogg41 said:
What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
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unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
krolla03 said:
unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
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I understand the idea behind being able to take my sim card out of one GSM phone, and put it into another. The network looks for the info on your sim, not your ESN/MEID. And honestly, the only carriers that 'unlock' any CDMA phones currently are a couple of the pre-paids (MetroPCS & Cricket) as far as I know. You can't take a Verizon phone to Sprint, or visa versa. I work for a MetroPCS retailer, I know all about flashing CDMA phones to the MetroPCS network, and it's alot more than simply opening it up to be able to be used with anybody. Not to mention needing to use a 3rd-party flashing software that will flash Metro info to the device, as well as extract the MEID from the handset and add it to the MetroPCS database so the MetroPCS activation system will recognize it as a usable handset. So, it's really not a fair comparison.
Regardless, it still leaves my question unanswered. I've never dealt with GSM phones outside of simply buying a new one at the AT&T store. Being able to 'unlock' it to use with any carrier is a new idea to me. So, instead of everybody telling me I'm stupid and that I should know how it works, can ANYBODY point me in the direction of an explanation of what it takes to unlock a GSM phone, what changes need to be made, and why a MyTouch Slide is special WRT it not being able to be unlocked?
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
Virus1x said:
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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Might I ask how you got yours unlocked?
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
Virus1x said:
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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Got it, I just figured that out from reading the website that you said you used. SIGNIFICANTLY easier task than 'unlocking' a CDMA handset. I've already sent them an email, if I can infact get one unlocked, I'll be buying one this week. Thanks!!
Yep best phone have trumps iphone
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well where did u get urs unlocked from
Look around on tmobiles website, the have the conditions for giving you a unlock code posted. If you meet the conditions they will email you the unlock code.
I did it with my slide, I called them Friday and they emailed me a unlock code by Monday. Free and easy.
Found the URL. http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm51885.xml
There you go...
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Virus1x said:
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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I'm assuming by perfect you're not including 3G since the slide isn't set or rather, doesn't contain the correct radio module to use AT&T's 3G band. Or does it and we're being lied to by the carriers (no surprise there) hmm...

[Q] Sim card on Telus Desire HD

One stupid question. Can I put a different Sim card in the Telus Desire HD out of the box? I will try to buy one directly from the Telus website, and I won't be using it in Canada, so do I need to activate it or something before I can use it with a different type of sim card?
It's amazing how hard it is to get a new phone with the right 3G bands!! In my country the only 3G bands available are 850/1900, just like AT&T, so the Desire HD will be the next best thing after the Nexus One.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, mine was bought unlocked, and works perfectly with At&t. Telus version, of course. I can answer any other questions you might have.
Thanks for your help. You got the AT&T 3G bands working then? And how did you get yours? Because the Telus website won't send phones outside Canada. Mabey Ebay is an option.
And also, I've heard that it's easy to root the phone using unrevoked, and maybe that way you can use some kind of flavor of Gingerbread. Maybe CM7.
Thanks for your help.
I got it from here: http://negrielectronics.com/htc-desire-hd-ace-sense-850-1900-3gblack-unlocked.html
I pre-ordered it Dec. 29th, and forgot about it completely. I was going to get the At&t version, but they sent a email saying it already shipped!
Either way, I haven't rooted it yet b/c people have been saying that they've lot sound with the s-off method. I probably will when more people are successful
Thank you. I will consider that site. And I agree with you, it's better to wait until the root process is reliable.
Thanks for your help.

[Q] Roger / Bell Canada unlocked SGS3 phone work with AT&T Network?

From this Wikipedia list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
...it appears that both Rogers and Bell in Canada are offering a SGH-I747 Samsung GS3 which is listed as the same variant as AT&T. However, they are offering internal 32GB models and AT&T is not, and that's what I want. I'm current using an iPhone 4S 64GB and I want to be able to swap sim cards back and forth between phones. Yes, I know I can get a 64GB microSD card but I want 96Gb on the phone (I don't want to argue this point).
So I have a few questions:
1) If I get a Rogers or Bell phone without contract and manage to unlock it, will it be fully compatable with the AT&T network just by swapping sims cards with the iPhone?
2) Will it work with AT&T LTE as well as 3G / Edge, both cell and data?
3) Does unlocking companies like cellunlocker.net actually WORK? Is this legal?
Thanks in advance for any info anyone can provide.
Tony
(Sorry for the double post. I put this in the wrong section initially)
Tones2 said:
From this Wikipedia list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
...it appears that both Rogers and Bell in Canada are offering a SGH-I747 Samsung GS3 which is listed as the same variant as AT&T. However, they are offering internal 32GB models and AT&T is not, and that's what I want. I'm current using an iPhone 4S 64GB and I want to be able to swap sim cards back and forth between phones. Yes, I know I can get a 64GB microSD card but I want 96Gb on the phone (I don't want to argue this point).
So I have a few questions:
1) If I get a Rogers or Bell phone without contract and manage to unlock it, will it be fully compatable with the AT&T network just by swapping sims cards with the iPhone?
2) Will it work with AT&T LTE as well as 3G / Edge, both cell and data?
3) Does unlocking companies like cellunlocker.net actually WORK? Is this legal?
Thanks in advance for any info anyone can provide.
Tony
(Sorry for the double post. I put this in the wrong section initially)
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1 yes as long as the Sim is the newer smaller type.
2 yes
3 yes and legal. No warranty void
Lost of post like this please take the time to read the forum post.
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Thanks.
Sorry, I DID do a search but I could not find anything specifically related to the Canada variants of the Samsung SGS3 running on the AT&T network
Just as a follow-up if I may - How would I then get O/S updates? Will I be able to install updates (like Jelly Bean 4.1 when it comes) from AT&T?
Tony
good question, you will probably get updates through kies regardless, probably end up getting the canadian version (only speaking from experience with the skyrocket) They usually ad an extra letter to the model number to signify carrier, and it will prevent you from flashing an OTA from someone else.
With that said, when an update gets release, it will end up here as well, and you can then choose to flash the AT&T version that way. But thats way down the line.
y2whisper said:
good question, you will probably get updates through kies regardless, probably end up getting the canadian version (only speaking from experience with the skyrocket) They usually ad an extra letter to the model number to signify carrier, and it will prevent you from flashing an OTA from someone else.
With that said, when an update gets release, it will end up here as well, and you can then choose to flash the AT&T version that way. But thats way down the line.
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Thanks. But I'm not quite sure I follow.
What is "kies" and "the skyrocket"? And per your last paragraph, is it possible to flash an AT&T version of the O/S on a Bell / Rogers phone?
BTW - Do you work for Bell Canada? If so, is there any issues with unlocking the phone with a 3rd party unlocker? I don't want to to anything illegal - I just want a 32GB phone that works on an AT&T LTE network.
Thanks,
Tony
From what I've seen and heard, I am confident that the big 3's version is fully compatible with AT&T network.
The model is all the same as I747M. Spec are all the same, so.... I am not worried.
In fact, Rogers uses the exact same network technology to AT&T. All the phone works on Rogers will works perfectly on AT&T as well! As long as it's unlocked.
Prior to my purchase of Rogers' SGS3, I was tempted to buy the AT&T version as it's cheaper.....
The point is probably moot since I cannot get either Rogers or Bell to sell me a phone at full price without a plan and ship it to the USA. They won't do this.
So I probably have to wait until one of these phone is offered from a Canadian customer via another source, like eBay. Any suggestions from anyone on how to get a Rogers or Bell phone shipped to the USA?
Jeez...If only AT&T offered a friggin' 32GB phone!! I wonder when those 128GB microSD cards are coming out.
Tony
You can buy the phone outright directly from rogers but yes, you will need a friend's address in Canada to ship it to. Then have that friend ship it to you in the US. Your other option is to come up - many dealers will sell it to you outright.
If you look around xda, the current methods of rooting and unlocking the phone are not so simple or pretty. In addition to that, the risks you'll have to take and extra costs likely isn't worth the extra 16GB.
m77m7 said:
You can buy the phone outright directly from rogers but yes, you will need a friend's address in Canada to ship it to. Then have that friend ship it to you in the US. Your other option is to come up - many dealers will sell it to you outright.
If you look around xda, the current methods of rooting and unlocking the phone are not so simple or pretty. In addition to that, the risks you'll have to take and extra costs likely isn't worth the extra 16GB.
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So the simple method of unlocking as described on cellunlocker.net with just the input of a code doesn't work?
Tones2 said:
So the simple method of unlocking as described on cellunlocker.net with just the input of a code doesn't work?
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No that works for sim unlocking. (unlocking to use on another network
Tones2 said:
Thanks. But I'm not quite sure I follow.
What is "kies" and "the skyrocket"? And per your last paragraph, is it possible to flash an AT&T version of the O/S on a Bell / Rogers phone?
BTW - Do you work for Bell Canada? If so, is there any issues with unlocking the phone with a 3rd party unlocker? I don't want to to anything illegal - I just want a 32GB phone that works on an AT&T LTE network.
Thanks,
Tony
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Kies is the desktop software that samsung uses to backup your device as well as deliver updates
Now can you use this method to flash an AT&T rom on a rogers device. is unknown. in the past with the skyrocket (otherwise known as the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE) the only difference is the hardcoded model number was I727R while at&t was I727 so flashing which would prevent that.
At the same time, this is xda there are fantastic people that would make a method for you to do that. The key, if you are game to do so is to do a lot of reading, and do nothing without feeling confident in what you are doing.
No I don't work for bell, but if they're here and in need of someone in the Marketing Dept..... However no issues with unlocking on a legal front
Tones2 said:
So the simple method of unlocking as described on cellunlocker.net with just the input of a code doesn't work?
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I assumed you wanted the free unlocking method. Of course if you're willing to pay for the unlock codes, I stand corrected.
Oh there's a free method? Knew there was for the s1 and s2 but didn't have it for the lte version of the s2.
I would look for the free method usually doesn't involve too many steps.
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LG-G710TM Unlocked by T-Mobile on Verizon?

Purchased from T-Mobile a year ago, all paid off, and permanently SIM unlocked by T-Mobile app (white-listed by T-Mobile so it would unlock). So, the phone is free and clear. I think the answer may be self-evident in the model numbrer, but can an unlocked LG-G710TM work on Verizon? When I pop in my Verizon SIM (from S10), it registers on the voice network, but mobile data won't connect. The firmware (still v8.0.0) is all T-Mobile. Went to Verizon store, wait for the shock and horror, and they gave up after basic settings changes.
Just for kicks, if the 710TM can only work on T-Mobile, that makes unlocking this model somewhat pointless, no?
Thanks for any quick hits.
jimbob_sf said:
Purchased from T-Mobile a year ago, all paid off, and permanently SIM unlocked by T-Mobile app (white-listed by T-Mobile so it would unlock). So, the phone is free and clear. I think the answer may be self-evident in the model numbrer, but can an unlocked LG-G710TM work on Verizon? When I pop in my Verizon SIM (from S10), it registers on the voice network, but mobile data won't connect. The firmware (still v8.0.0) is all T-Mobile. Went to Verizon store, wait for the shock and horror, and they gave up after basic settings changes.
Just for kicks, if the 710TM can only work on T-Mobile, that makes unlocking this model somewhat pointless, no?
Thanks for any quick hits.
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Back up your phone and flash with G710VM firmware which should allow it to work on Verizon. See link below with instructions.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/cross-flash-oreo-pie-firmwares-lg-g7-g7-t3915303
mr3p said:
Back up your phone and flash with G710VM firmware which should allow it to work on Verizon. See link below with instructions.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/cross-flash-oreo-pie-firmwares-lg-g7-g7-t3915303
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Starting at post #55 in that thread, it says cross flashing the 710TM will brick it. Gotta ask the dumb question: did you point me there knowing that cross flashing the T-Mobile to Verizon will work or just knowing that there was a cross flashing thread that works for most G7s?
I"m appreciative for the help either way.
jimbob_sf said:
Starting at post #55 in that thread, it says cross flashing the 710TM will brick it. Gotta ask the dumb question: did you point me there knowing that cross flashing the T-Mobile to Verizon will work or just knowing that there was a cross flashing thread that works for most G7s?
I"m appreciative for the help either way.
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I don't have TM version so I was unaware of such restriction. My apologies the method will not work on your device.
If entering the Verizon APN info in (which I'm assuming the employees at VZW tried) still failed to produce results, then yes, you may be out of luck (however you could make use of a prepaid network that uses the T-Mobile bands such as Mint Mobile or sell it as a white-listed phone). This is why there are many of us with LG phones that wish they'd just release one model per device, as the Qualcomm chip used supports a wide range of bands used by various providers.

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