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[Updated 3rd March 2012]Mugen Power 3200mAh extended battery for Samsung Galaxy S2

Finally my Mugen Power 3200mAh battery arrives from Hong Kong !!!!!!!
So far, im very much satisfied with it.
Running CheckRom V5 right now that gives me awesome battery life.Now boosted up even more with the Mugen Power Battery.
Official Link - click here.
Youtube video - click here.
Best part is - my phone still fits inside the stock leather protection case by Samsung !!!
Now the phone feels more high quality.i feel like im holding a sturdy HTC phone.
Im very happy with the quality Mugen provides always.
Update - Analysis with CheckRom V4.(screenshot taken a few days before updating to V6.) Battery life on minimal use -
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So here are some pics.(will post pics in day light soon).

And whats the percentual gain over stock 1650 mah ? Dont think this one is full 3200 more like 2400mah
Also, some pictures with it installed on the phone would be appreciated

xeq544 said:
And whats the percentual gain over stock 1650 mah ? Dont think this one is full 3200 more like 2400mah
Also, some pictures with it installed on the phone would be appreciated
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+1 Same questions
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xeq544 said:
And whats the percentual gain over stock 1650 mah ? Dont think this one is full 3200 more like 2400mah
Also, some pictures with it installed on the phone would be appreciated
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Cant speak anything about the performance as of now.lets wait for a day or two.
I'll upload more pics tomorrow.first thing up tomorrow morning.
Regards,
Karan.

Wow. No offense but I'm slightly worried it might burn the phone. Rather go with the official Samsung battery release of 2000 mAh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239719

krazykat said:
Wow. No offense but I'm slightly worried it might burn the phone. Rather go with the official Samsung battery release of 2000 mAh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239719
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i have been using Mugen Power batteries past 2 years now
i have had no issues with my previous phones.
Yet,i'll take care of what you have said.
Regards,
Karan.

Yeah, Mugen makes quality batteries... It is not some 10$ ****

Urghh, all that extra thickness on the phone and expense for an extra half days usage (according to the real world usage stated on the youtube video).

I've got it and it's more than doubled my phone's life... with Data and auto sync always on.
It's more like a 4200 mah battery.
I get about 20 hours with Data, auto sync & Bluetooth always on
Wifi is on for about 10 - 12 hours a day also.
I got 65 Hours on a single charge with data off the whole time.
I had wifi on for about a third of the time.

Dookie1302 said:
I've got it and it's more than doubled my phone's life... with Data and auto sync always on.
It's more like a 4200 mah battery.
I get about 20 hours with Data, auto sync & Bluetooth always on
Wifi is on for about 10 - 12 hours a day also.
I got 65 Hours on a single charge with data off the whole time.
I had wifi on for about a third of the time.
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screen on time ? Thats important... Im getting 5 hours with genuine 2000mah from samsung. Im considering buying this battery, but from my experience third party batteries are usually crap(momax for example), and this one is 70 euro. I will buy it only if it really is full 3200 mah. So I am waiting for some kind of test.

Mugen are the only third party battery I trust, Had one of their batteries in my old HTC Hero and it was fantastic, lasted me 4+days on a single charge (I could stretch it to 6 days with data/wifi off and just texts and calls).
I just have to 'lol' at people saying "ooooh its so expensive compared to other ones!!" and "It will blow up your phone!!!111!!!1!"
Its expensive because its not cheap nasty [email protected] like 99% of all the other aftermarket batteries. It may not be the full 3200mAh but based on my experience with the HTC Hero version I wouldn't be surprised if it was still 3000+
It wont blow up the phone, its Mugen.
A google for 'Mugen Battery Review' is all people need to do to find out how highly Mugen is rated

xeq544 said:
screen on time ? Thats important... Im getting 5 hours with genuine 2000mah from samsung. Im considering buying this battery, but from my experience third party batteries are usually crap(momax for example), and this one is 70 euro. I will buy it only if it really is full 3200 mah. So I am waiting for some kind of test.
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Momaxes is certainly not crap, Tids2k already measured the capacity of the extended Expower to be right on the money, 2680mah out of the rated 2700mah. At the very least it's better then the spider-foot/adinda/oem extended batteries (Rating 3200mah, real cap 2400mah).
Cover is not confidence inspiring though, I have to admit. It HAS survived a couple of drops before though.
On the other hand, nobody seems to have tested the Mugen for total cap yet. Holding on my purchase until someone does.

Watching that video of the increased phone thickness, even this phone is thinner

I think it's better to have 2 or three genuine samsung batteries than having 1 gigantic battery that sacrifice our phone's slimness..

Can you advise what is the total charging time from 10% to fully charged with this extended battery?
The original one takes about 3 hours to fully charge from 10%, using power socket charger (not USB) and with data packet/wifi/GPS all turned off.

What point are the people posting in every single extended battery thread about slimness or ugliness trying to prove? You are providing no information in regards to extended batteries which the post is about. Thanks to the public demanding slim phones we all have poor battery life. Shut up please.
If the phone was twice as thick you could have reasonable battery life and it would still be easy to handle and pocket, why you need a phone thats >10mm thick is beyond me.

exactly! Prove us what you have. Do not just talk like insane.

xeq544 said:
screen on time ? Thats important... Im getting 5 hours with genuine 2000mah from samsung. Im considering buying this battery, but from my experience third party batteries are usually crap(momax for example), and this one is 70 euro. I will buy it only if it really is full 3200 mah. So I am waiting for some kind of test.
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Check this screen shot
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Check this screen shotView attachment 755264
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Checking it... show me the actual screen usage statistic (screen on time)
see ? Thats my 2000mah battery, dont see much difference, show me screen on time. (those big drops are order and chaos gameplay, pretty good for 2000mah eh ? + The total screen on time after three days was 5 hours.)
This is what I mean:
Im sorry for my scepticism... I just saw things many people overlook, the momax 3500mah battery is actually 2400mah and double the size, the other 1900mah batteries are really 1300-1400mah. Only the samy batteries match the rated capacity, my 1650 mah stock battery is 1614mah and my 2000mah battery is 2035mah according to my discharge tests. Thats why I dont trust 3rd party batteries. I just dont see small company squeezing same or more capacity into same sized battery because I am pretty sure they cant invest as much money into battery manufacturing process as samsung and thats why sammy batteries actually match the real capacities.

xeq544 said:
Checking it... show me the actual screen usage statistic (screen on time)
see ? Thats my 2000mah battery, dont see much difference, show me screen on time. (those big drops are order and chaos gameplay, pretty good for 2000mah eh ? + The total screen on time after three days was 5 hours.)
This is what I mean:
Im sorry for my scepticism... I just saw things many people overlook, the momax 3500mah battery is actually 2400mah and double the size, the other 1900mah batteries are really 1300-1400mah. Only the samy batteries match the rated capacity, my 1650 mah stock battery is 1614mah and my 2000mah battery is 2035mah according to my discharge tests. Thats why I dont trust 3rd party batteries. I just dont see small company squeezing same or more capacity into same sized battery because I am pretty sure they cant invest as much money into battery manufacturing process as samsung and thats why sammy batteries actually match the real capacities.
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I'll run another test and let you know... this screenshot is about 2 - 3 months old...
How can i check the actual capacity of my battery?
This battery does last at least 2 - 3 times longer than the stock Samsung Battery.

[BATTERY REVIEW]Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh Lithium Ion "Fat Phone"

Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.
It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.
I purchased in from this Ebay shop.
They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.
The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.
It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.
My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.
The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.
The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.
In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.
I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.
I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.
One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.
Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.
I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.
Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.
I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this.
EDIT: Update
As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.
No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.
Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.
EDIT:
11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.
EDIT:
12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.
EDIT:
2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.
I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.
EDIT:
The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.
Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.
Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.
Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)
FINAL UPDATE:
Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.
All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.
Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.
Coming soon.
DS

it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.

m1ndh4x8r said:
it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
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Hehe.
Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.
So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.
It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery.
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...

Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.

MoneyFist said:
Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.
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Mine was in around 16 to 20 hours based on my usage.
I'll give you the stats on this one after it runs dry. Down 10% over the last 13 hours so far.

d33ps1x said:
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...
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That's the test I'm more curious about. Anyway I thank you a lot for the review on the FAT battery. It's bigger so it should be better. As I already wrote on another thread I've had nice experiences with Cameron Sino batteries.
I'm curious about the Li-Polymer because the density and weight of the material are totally different. If that one approves I will buy one for sure.
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.

miguelca said:
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.
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ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.

d33ps1x said:
ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
ROTFLMAO
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.
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Good luck with the shipping time and with the batteries too.
If the Li-Polymer Gold battery only has about 1700mAH then it is pretty false advertising. My feedback would be pretty negative on eBay.
Sellers shouldn't be so greedy and announce values that are way above reality.
Anyway if 15.50€ gets me about 30-35% battery increase then I will probably buy one.
An original battery costs the double...
I will wait for your review before I decide because I really don't like ordering so near Christmas...
Thanks for your help mate.

No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.

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d33ps1x said:
No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.
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This means that on the 3rd or 4th complete charge cycles you will probably get a few more hours. Just follow the battery maker's instructions and I guess that 45 hours of moderate usage will be possible. That's quite an achievement!
Even if it's a Big Mac, for work purposes that wouldn't be a problem.

I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS

aswerth said:
I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS
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I concur...

Awesome post, might get one of the 2430mah ones if it's moderately better than this one.

Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.

d33ps1x said:
Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.
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Cameron Sino still takes their business very seriously. That's great!

OP, can you come back after a few weeks using this battery, and do a 2nd review to see how it's lasting?
I only ask because I tried a similar 3500mah extended battery, which was amazing for the first few days, but after a week or two it started losing it's charge realy quickly.
40 hours use from a single charge seems awesome, but I don't wanna go spending on another battery until it's withstood the test of time

No problem. I'll put it in my Calendar.

Awesome, can't wait for the results

Nice testing,we shall se if we have new battery champ for our nice wfs

Momax EXPower 2700mAh Battery

Hello!
I bought this battery from eBay and it just arrived.
I know the first thing that anybody wants to know when they hears "extended battery" is how it looks...
So, here are some pictures
(YES, they are shot with an iPhone 4 and the phone is on an iPad... My brother has bitten the forbidden fruit!)
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7/3/2012 UPDATE:
iridaki said:
OK, after almost a full week with it, here are my observations:
1. The battery is indeed of extended capacity and the cells appear to hold the charge better than stock battery so far. I do not have the equipment to confirm that it is 2700 mAh as it is claimed, but there is no doubt that it is almost twice as lasting as stock battery.
I've been in between changing ROMs at this point, but I will upload screenshots of Battery Usage in the coming days. I've been able to stay away from charger for more than 50 hours, which is an immense improvement over stock battery.
2. Battery cover is of OK quality, feels a bit loose at times, but it is not falling out of its place. Of course, I haven't dropped the phone, so I can't guarantee on the durability. Certainly sub-par to OEM battery cover, but not bad either.
The kickstand is purely awesome! Phone stands on a perfect angle. I am concerned about its durability too though.
3. Here comes the tricky part:
The phone seems to be unable to display accurate readings of the battery.
It drains from 100% to 1% approximately the same way stock does and then I have to pull it an re-insert it and when the phone boots it displays 65%. Same way, every time it hits 1%, I have to do the same and the percentage rises.
I looked into /sys/class/power_supply and found a folder called semc_battery_data. I searched further and realised that the capacity (1500) and type (Li-Pol) are actually hardcoded on kernel level. HTC developers have already addressed similar issues on kernel level.
I talked to Bazoocase (the developer of the 0% battery issue work-around, so pretty much the expert on the Arc battery gauge!)
about it and he confirmed that this is really the case:
Bazoocaze said:
I had read the bq27520 datasheet, and indeed the fuel gauge must auto-detect and adjust it's parameters automagically from the battery usage, so you must let it charge from 0% to 100% and discharge from 100% to 0% a few times without using heavy consumption to let it learn the new battery impedance/capacity.
However, looking at the sony driver source (battery_chargalg.c, among others) it looks like Sony have hardcoded the battery capacity in code, and then this will explain your usage issue with the extended battery.
Searching deeper in the kernel sources I found the constant value that seems to represent the hardcoded battery capacity:
file: arch/arm/mach-msm/charger-anzu.c
Code:
struct device_data device_data = {
.limit_tbl = &limit_tbl,
.battery_capacity_mah = 1500,
.maximum_charging_current_ma = 1050,
};
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He was kind enough to prepare a test kernel for me, with increased battery capacity, from 1500 to 2700, and I am testing it right now.
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All in all, my personal opinion is that this battery is long-lasting and reliable, a huge improvement over stock.
Whoever wants the extra juice and is ready to compromise the thinness of the Arc, could go for it.
I will certainly keep using it, as it has freed me from the "looking for a power plug" plaque.
Even if the kernel patch turns out not to be working, inaccurate readings are not an issue, at least for me,
when I can safely go through the day without charging and can reach up to 2 days of battery life.
As far as my usage goes, I could get 18-20 hours average from stock battery, which is not bad at all,
since the easiest thing to do is plug your phone before you go to bed. However, I do appreciate not necessarily having to do that too.
I will keep this thread updated should I have further findings.
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its not an Arc anymore <whers the sexiest of our Phone

migsguerra said:
its not an Arc anymore <whers the sexiest of our Phone
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It certainly deprives the Arc of its slimness but it doesn't look half as bad as I thought it would!

iridaki said:
It certainly deprives the Arc of its slimness but it doesn't look half as bad as I thought it would!
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How much backup are you able to make out of it?

It being thicker looks like it'll handle better. Does it feel any easier to hold?

doomed151 said:
It being thicker looks like it'll handle better. Does it feel any easier to hold?
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Yes, it is not slippery anymore in fact!
I am going to make a video, should be more indicative than pictures.
abrarabbu said:
How much backup are you able to make out of it?
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When it arrived, it had 8% battery in it, I drained it and that took approximately 6 hours (5 hours screen on, music, youtube, browsing, emails).
I plugged it in overnight and today when I woke up, took the phone off charger. It's been 3 hours and still @99%.
So far seems really good, but to be honest, I have to monitor battery life for 2-3 cycles before I can tell if it's that good.
I'll keep you posted.

iridaki said:
Hello!
I bought this battery from eBay and it just arrived. I will update this thread with my observations after a few days of usage. Meanwhile, here are some pictures.
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I wish we could have one battery like razr maxx.slim and powerful...

good
Looking good... eagerly awaiting the results

OK, after almost a full week with it, here are my observations:
1. The battery is indeed of extended capacity and the cells appear to hold the charge better than stock battery so far. I do not have the equipment to confirm that it is 2700 mAh as it is claimed, but there is no doubt that it is almost twice as lasting as stock battery.
I've been in between changing ROMs at this point, but I will upload screenshots of Battery Usage in the coming days. I've been able to stay away from charger for more than 50 hours, which is an immense improvement over stock battery.
2. Battery cover is of OK quality, feels a bit loose at times, but it is not falling out of its place. Of course, I haven't dropped the phone, so I can't guarantee on the durability. Certainly sub-par to OEM battery cover, but not bad either.
The kickstand is purely awesome! Phone stands on a perfect angle. I am concerned about its durability too though.
3. Here comes the tricky part:
The phone seems to be unable to display accurate readings of the battery.
It drains from 100% to 1% approximately the same way stock does and then I have to pull it an re-insert it and when the phone boots it displays 65%. Same way, every time it hits 1%, I have to do the same and the percentage rises.
I looked into /sys/class/power_supply and found a folder called semc_battery_data. I searched further and realised that the capacity (1500) and type (Li-Pol) are actually hardcoded on kernel level. HTC developers have already addressed similar issues on kernel level.
I talked to Bazoocase (the developer of the 0% battery issue work-around, so pretty much the expert on the Arc battery gauge!)
about it and he confirmed that this is really the case:
Bazoocaze said:
I had read the bq27520 datasheet, and indeed the fuel gauge must auto-detect and adjust it's parameters automagically from the battery usage, so you must let it charge from 0% to 100% and discharge from 100% to 0% a few times without using heavy consumption to let it learn the new battery impedance/capacity.
However, looking at the sony driver source (battery_chargalg.c, among others) it looks like Sony have hardcoded the battery capacity in code, and then this will explain your usage issue with the extended battery.
Searching deeper in the kernel sources I found the constant value that seems to represent the hardcoded battery capacity:
file: arch/arm/mach-msm/charger-anzu.c
Code:
struct device_data device_data = {
.limit_tbl = &limit_tbl,
.battery_capacity_mah = 1500,
.maximum_charging_current_ma = 1050,
};
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He was kind enough to prepare a test kernel for me, with increased battery capacity, from 1500 to 2700, and I am testing it right now.
____________________
All in all, my personal opinion is that this battery is long-lasting and reliable, a huge improvement over stock.
Whoever wants the extra juice and is ready to compromise the thinness of the Arc, could go for it.
I will certainly keep using it, as it has freed me from the "looking for a power plug" plaque.
Even if the kernel patch turns out not to be working, inaccurate readings are not an issue, at least for me,
when I can safely go through the day without charging and can reach up to 2 days of battery life.
As far as my usage goes, I could get 18-20 hours average from stock battery, which is not bad at all,
since the easiest thing to do is plug your phone before you go to bed. However, I do appreciate not necessarily having to do that too.
I will keep this thread updated should I have further findings.

Good work
Thanks 4 sharing this, very helpful!

I also would like to change battery 1500- 3200 mhz , should i fix something in software ? like u done ? ^_^

hi
I'm thinking bout picking one of these up. did u manage to sort out the false readings u where getting on ur batt ?
Did the kernel work ?
Thanx
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Sorry for hi jacking this thread but instead of posting a new thread I found this one appropriate.
I recently bought this battery from ebay and so far my new battery gives me 30% more juice.
Sorry can't post links yet but you can search it with Gold 2430mAh High Capacity Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc/X12/LT15i/LT18i

Tarzan- said:
Sorry for hi jacking this thread but instead of posting a new thread I found this one appropriate.
I recently bought this battery from ebay and so far my new battery gives me 30% more juice.
Sorry can't post links yet but you can search it with Gold 2430mAh High Capacity Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc/X12/LT15i/LT18i
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hi mate
Does this batt need the bigger back or is it standard size ?
Thanx
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pushtostop said:
hi mate
Does this batt need the bigger back or is it standard size ?
Thanx
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No works fine with the stock back cover that was the most important thing while considering secondary battery.

Tarzan- said:
No works fine with the stock back cover that was the most important thing while considering secondary battery.
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Excellent ,gonna get this instead
Thanx
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^ You guys, please do keep us updated on those 2430mAh batteries. Maybe even create a new thread about it.

Tarzan- said:
Sorry for hi jacking this thread but instead of posting a new thread I found this one appropriate.
I recently bought this battery from ebay and so far my new battery gives me 30% more juice.
Sorry can't post links yet but you can search it with Gold 2430mAh High Capacity Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc/X12/LT15i/LT18i
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If you are willing to contribute to testing batteries, thanks to Bazoocase, I have a kernel that allows the fuel gauge to detect true battery capacity.
My stock 1500 battery is detected as 1420 and the 2700 extended as 2600.
I am really interested to see how much is the real capacity of those 2430 batteries that maintain stock size. If they are for real, it would be a great improvement!
PM me if you are interested!

iridaki said:
If you are willing to contribute to testing batteries, thanks to Bazoocase, I have a kernel that allows the fuel gauge to detect true battery capacity.
My stock 1500 battery is detected as 1420 and the 2700 extended as 2600.
I am really interested to see how much is the real capacity of those 2430 batteries that maintain stock size. If they are for real, it would be a great improvement!
PM me if you are interested!
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what about my question dear ? should i change kernal also ? ^_^

mundy725 said:
what about my question dear ? should i change kernal also ? ^_^
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Not necessarily, it's just a matter of extra convenience having accurate readings. I use DoomKernel now, I have no practical issues.
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Comparison new battery for Galaxy Note with Chinese noname battery

Introduction
Firstly, I want to pay attention on costliness of this battery in comparison with Chinese analogues, which can be found on eBay. I have ordered the following Chinese battery, and also arranged the following 5400 mAh battery with Mugen Power representative.
In the following review I will test 4 kinds of batteries: battery from Mugen Power (5400 mAh) - example #1, Chinese Noname analog (5200 mAh) - example #2, battery from Mugen Power (4500 mAh) - example #3, standard battery from Samsung (2500 mAh) - example #4.
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From left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)
Delivery
Example #1 delivered in vesicular polyethylene with instruction and solid package. Battery Door Back cover from example #3 completely similar with example #1.
Battery package from Mugen Power 5400 mAh
Chinese noname #2 also delivered in solid package with vesicular polyethylene inside.
Chinese battery package 5200 mAh
Both packages have sent in the same time and delivered after 25 days +/- 1-2 day.
Appearance
As I have told before, example #1 Battery Door Back cover perfect came up to example #3, but Chinese battery #2 immediately disappointeded me:
- firstly - "native" back plane of battery don't want to enter to "native" slots phone case
Incorrect slots on Chinese battery 5200 mAh back cover
The incorrect slots became cause that back cover won't completely closed
- secondly - example #2 was thicker than, example #1 or 4 and back cover from Mugen Power batteries cannot become worthy replacement for Chinese battery
Comparison dimensions of examples #1, #2 and #4
All examples (can observe what examples #1 and #3 are equal)
The back covers have a different view
Comparison of back covers for examples #1 and #2
Comparison of back covers for all examples
Phone with battery and without back cover(up-to-down example #1 and #2)
The general look of the phone
Testing.
Testing was done on the 3 directions:
- Loading test from Antutu Tester;
- Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%;
- Maximum endurance test time.
For all batteries have created similar conditions: Wi-Fi and 3G were enable all the time, phone has using for web-surfing and for books reading during time directly proportional to the battery capacity
1. Loading test from Antutu Tester
From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)
I was surprised by performance for the example #2, twice rechecked data
2. Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%
From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)
3. Maximum endurance test time
From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)
Conclusions:
It was my goal to determine whether two batteries from almost the same place but with different cost (example #1 approximately 8 times more expensive than the example #2) can compete with each other?
My answer is - No, they cannot because of the following flaws of the example #2:
- incorrect back plane cover, which not suitable with phone case slots;
- not very distinctive capacity and very distinctive maximum time of work;
- and i'm not sure, if this miracle of Chinese thought will not explode my phone;
The low cost and the unreliability or the high cost and the quality - the choice is yours.

Nice topic.
Though the gap from 4500 to 2500 is a bit big, would be nicer if you could also include batteries that are as big as the stock.
For example 3500mAH.
On another note:
When I look at the services that are running:
@ 5200 & 4500 mAh I notice that the screen service is on top.
@ 5400 & 2500 mAh I notice Android OS service on top.
So I've got no clue how you tested them all.

Great write up.
Did you clear battery stats between tests and let them recharge a couple of cycles? Or is that necessary?

#example 2 battery cover was designed for NFC Galaxy Notes! Look at the contacts. So it probably wont fit the N7000 well.

great write up, thanks!
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beejers said:
Great write up.
Did you clear battery stats between tests and let them recharge a couple of cycles? Or is that necessary?
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Not necessary when it comes to li-ion batteries, but necessary when it comes to the phone itself. I think he should have done the calibration process that is required for an extended battery to be recognized by the phone. Mugen has it here.

whyandroiddude said:
Not necessary when it comes to li-ion batteries, but necessary when it comes to the phone itself. I think he should have done the calibration process that is required for an extended battery to be recognized by the phone. Mugen has it here.
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Dsteppa said:
Nice topic.
Though the gap from 4500 to 2500 is a bit big, would be nicer if you could also include batteries that are as big as the stock.
For example 3500mAH.
On another note:
When I look at the services that are running:
@ 5200 & 4500 mAh I notice that the screen service is on top.
@ 5400 & 2500 mAh I notice Android OS service on top.
So I've got no clue how you tested them all.
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I have tried to create same conditions for use during all my day for every battery, may be anything was going wrong ... who knows. (

beejers said:
Great write up.
Did you clear battery stats between tests and let them recharge a couple of cycles? Or is that necessary?
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Sure, every battery before testing was charge-recharge 10 times.

xudsa II USERT said:
#example 2 battery cover was designed for NFC Galaxy Notes! Look at the contacts. So it probably wont fit the N7000 well.
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Hmmm ... May be you are right. When I bought my phone there is not any version with NFC support.

I'd like to add my two cents on my super-duper massive extended battery. If this post is messy, I apologise but writing it at work!
For those who want the quick version, I have tested perhaps 9 different ways of extending battery life - from external packs to replacement batteries - and I highly recommend these two devices - or, alternatively, two official batteries with the external battery charger
First... (Not a battery):
Yoobao External charger - 11,200maH: £39.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yoobao-11200mA-Portable-Battery-Charger/dp/B005MBX6L2
Why?
- A huge capacity (11,200maH), which would charge a typical battery five times
- Two USB ports to charge two devices at once (which saves so many people's lives!)
- Recharges via micro-USB cable (which also means that you can use the same cable to both charge this device, and then swap ports and charge the Note)
- The size of a 2.5" hard drive
Basically, I love this, and slip it in my bag whenever I have it.
But more importantly, for this is a battery thread:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160742439228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
by ebay user: gpsforless-uk
(PICS ATTACHED)
My previous batteries have included:
- Two official batteries
- One third-party '3250maH' battery (the 'gold' one, which was as good as the officials but I didn't sense much better life from it)
- the '5,000 Mah' battery (#2 in the first post). DO NOT BUY. For me, it seemed perhaps a little better than a stock battery, but certainly not twice as much life, and for the bulk it added ... not good.
So... I was let down by the #2 battery, and a few days later ordered the one above.
It cost £15.99, and came about 20 days later.
Why do I recommend?
After two weeks of intensive use, this is by far the best battery I have had for the Samsung Note.
-For the first time ever (perhaps on any of my phones in the last five years), the dreaded battery anxiety has gone. I've noticed the cloud lift over the last week, of not having to worry about battery life.
- I use my phone INTENSIVELY. Even if I have no need for it, I sit and fiddle with it all day, but normally I use it for more than an hour of video playback, lots of camera use, lots of web browsing, GPS/Google Maps, constant emails, texts, calls, as a WiFi Hotspot, games, using as a media remote on my PC.
- On a typical day, using this way, my original Samsung battery would last until about 8pm if I was lucky. This was with plenty of tweaks in CM10, using apps like Green Power etc.
- On this battery, I am generally on around 48% by 8pm
- My phone will remain on 100% for an hour after I take the charger off, and will generally drop 1% an hour (if left sleeping but connected to wifi, network etc)
- I can watch a half-hour program (e.g. Family Guy) and only drop 3-4%
Now, I should spend time testing the battery fully, do some run-down tests, do some intensive benchmarking etc, and who knows, as the months go by, maybe the capacity will drop. But for now - very very happy.
Other thoughts:
- I love having a kickstand - it's my big need on a phone and I've always been making stands, buying stands, trying to attach stands, buying phone wallets with stands etc
- The phone looks bigger, and while the back case is a bit cheap-looking, it fits well and actually makes the phone feel more comfortable to hold
- Naturally, I cannot use any cases (except a pouch, which I don't like) with my phone, so I am much more likely to run the risk of damaging it and dropping it.
- Two day-to-day problems I could face: I have the official desktop stand/battery charger, but because the battery charger charges the batteries 'the wrong way round', I can only charge the extended battery within the phone, which is a bit of a pain (but not the battery's fault).
- Also, I can't switch between the extended battery and the standard battery without carrying my original back-case around with me - as I assume the original battery would fall out in such a giant case.
But there you go: I've been on the Note for seven/eight months, the S2 before that, and the HD2 before that, and battery has always been my biggest issue with the smartphone market. But from this week, for me, the problem is resolved.
I'd highly recommend this battery. I know my write-up is more 'real world thoughts' than stats/screenshots, but I'd not hesitate to recommend. Especially combined with the Yoobao or similar, I have no problems anymore, and can use my Note as a constant tablet without any anxiety.
EDIT: I've uploaded a battery life image. As you can see, after 10 hours I was down to 25%, but note that my screen on was probably about 5/6 hours, and I was on GPS a LOT more than what the stats show (I was in Venice for the weekend, and switching GPS on and off probably three times an hour for 5 minutes apiece).

Hmmm .. I have an idea to by same one, but most for my notebook and found this variant
http://www.shop.energizerpowerpacks.com/external-batteries/energizer-xp18000a
but Rated Output: DC 19V, Max 3500 mA have stopped me to buy it

True up on 6200 mAh batteries, comments?

There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?

vectron said:
There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?
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I trust Seidio and Mugen. I have tried Anker but am still undecided until I test it for a 3 month minimum. The reason why I usually choose Seidio is because they don't overstate capacity and they usually release a case for their extended battery, which I haven't seen from the other guys. As for Zero Lemon... They are the new kid on the block and will have to prove themselves. Their TPU back cover/Case is definitely thinking outside the box, however they might have to diversify with some other options.

vectron said:
There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?
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I have battery monitor pro and what I get from estimated mah is about 6200 from my anker battery. I dont know how accurate it is.

eijisawakita said:
I have battery monitor pro and what I get from estimated mah is about 6200 from my anker battery. I dont know how accurate it is.
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Have you tried it with stock battery to confirm? Would be a good benchmark.
Also forgot to ask, which battery monitor pro are you using, GSam or another one?

Most of the third party battery makers lie. If you're feeling generous you can call it "over-rating". And yes, Sedio and Mugen have been busted doing it in the past. I have no idea what the current state is with them. IMO, they are not worth the money. The only place I consider worthy of trusting for real data is http://www.batteryreview.info. And only because their results match my own testing. There is no way to know for sure if you don't test outside the phone on a known load. The battery makers know this, and know they probably won't be called on it.
Does that mean the $20 battery that gets 5500 rather than 6200 is a bad deal? Not necessarily. That's up to the buyer. I do wish sites like Amazon would require truth in advertising though.

vectron said:
Have you tried it with stock battery to confirm? Would be a good benchmark.
Also forgot to ask, which battery monitor pro are you using, GSam or another one?
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I'll try it with my OEM battery and report here. I use battery monitor widget pro. It has estimated mah based of how long you charge it. Mine reports 6342 with anker.
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ttabbal said:
Most of the third party battery makers lie. If you're feeling generous you can call it "over-rating". And yes, Sedio and Mugen have been busted doing it in the past. I have no idea what the current state is with them. IMO, they are not worth the money. The only place I consider worthy of trusting for real data is http://www.batteryreview.info. And only because their results match my own testing. There is no way to know for sure if you don't test outside the phone on a known load. The battery makers know this, and know they probably won't be called on it.
Does that mean the $20 battery that gets 5500 rather than 6200 is a bad deal? Not necessarily. That's up to the buyer. I do wish sites like Amazon would require truth in advertising though.
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That batteryreview.info had some of the most poorly written, unscientific reviews I have ever read. And, if that's how you test, then you are in the same boat.
Regarding amazon, I wish they would allow me to buy back the 15 min I just wasted reading thru the batteryreview website.

mdt73 said:
That batteryreview.info had some of the most poorly written, unscientific reviews I have ever read. And, if that's how you test, then you are in the same boat.
Regarding amazon, I wish they would allow me to buy back the 15 min I just wasted reading thru the batteryreview website.
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Well, his testing method on a paper sounds legit and he uses all the right tools for measurement. But his incoherent reviews are all over the place. Needs a better and more consistent review format, plus having links to Amazon where he gets a credit when you purchase the battery kind of takes away from credibility... If you decide to have unbiased independent review, stick to it without other agendas. He should just setup PayPal donation account to get funds to buy and review all the available batteries

I agree with the amazon links, I'd rather see a paypal donate etc.
As for the testing methodology, if you have specific concerns, point them out. He uses commercial test gear, I have a few different things. Some home-built and calibrated, and a couple RC battery testers that also verify cleanly against known data. While the guy's writing may leave something to be desired, the cells he has tested that I have also tested check out the same. I've also seen other sites that reference his that claim to have tested with the same results. For myself, I like to run multiple tests on different gear and average the results to get a final number, though they are within a few %. I also generally run tests at a few current levels.
I don't do much with it these days. I will post if I pick up a battery, but the stock one does ok for now. I did some tests on Vibrant, G2x, and Galaxy Nexus batteries. The stock were always at or above rating, the third party were all over the map. A couple of the third party batteries I took apart had cells with lower capacity markings on them, they did check out to those levels. I have no financial interest in any of it, other than as a user that doesn't like getting sold something that isn't what they told me it is. IMO it's no different than buying a gallon of gas, and getting 0.75 gallon. A few % difference I can be understanding about, >10% there is no excuse.
I might pick up a Zero Lemon, I'm interested in the huge capacity claim. If it tests out, I might even run it in my phone. Still a little unsure about the case/battery cover though.

ttabbal said:
....... A few % difference I can be understanding about, >10% there is no excuse.
I might pick up a Zero Lemon, I'm interested in the huge capacity claim. If it tests out, I might even run it in my phone. Still a little unsure about the case/battery cover though.
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Exactly, what I'm looking for in review - to be sure there is no more than 10% variation from advertised capacity. I also would love to see some battery aging results where it's retested after 3-4 months to see if performance stayed the same or degraded.
Regarding Zero Lemon, I exchanged a few emails with them yesterday, and they are taking case/battery VERY seriously!!! To the point where release of the battery is being pushed out (as it was mentioned in original Zero Lemon thread) so they can fix the fit of their current TPU case. Plus, they are considering designing a new rugged case. I'm glad they are listening to feedback of those who already tested their battery/case and not rushing just to get their product out of the door. Big props!

vectron said:
Exactly, what I'm looking for in review - to be sure there is no more than 10% variation from advertised capacity. I also would love to see some battery aging results where it's retested after 3-4 months to see if performance stayed the same or degraded.
Regarding Zero Lemon, I exchanged a few emails with them yesterday, and they are taking case/battery VERY seriously!!! To the point where release of the battery is being pushed out (as it was mentioned in original Zero Lemon thread) so they can fix the fit of their current TPU case. Plus, they are considering designing a new rugged case. I'm glad they are listening to feedback of those who already tested their battery/case and not rushing just to get their product out of the door. Big props!
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To really test aging, I think it would be best on a battery that had been used in a phone the whole time. Just to see the real effect of using it. You could set up an automated charge/discharge jig I suppose, but it might not be as good.
I like what you're saying about Zero Lemon. I hope they really do follow through with a great product. More battery is always welcome for me. I'd love to have the phone plugged in less.
If you want to do battery testing, let me know and I'll get you schematics and code for my stuff. I'd also be willing to test some you send and I'll pay the return shipping.

So when i purchased my note II the very first thing i purchased was an extended battery.
i ended up purchasing the Hyperion 6200mAh from amazon as they have a little statement
***NOTE*** Back Cover has had a mid-line change to accommodate for the NFC chip that will eventually be included. Pictures will be corrected soon.
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so i took a gamble that NFC was going to be included on the case and it was! i had to bend the NFC prongs out on my phone a little to make it touch but after that it worked!
Now the battery i have easily gotten double the battery life out of. i got my phone all dialed in then took the regular battery to almost completely discharged.
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as you can see i got about 16 hrs on the stock battery with about 3 hrs and some change of screen time.
The Hyperion battery did a heck of a lot better
Had 4 hrs of screen time on the Hyperion and same about of time off the charger, still 54% left.
Now the only drawback of the extended battery is the NFC location, i do have trouble getting it to pick up with other phones, i have on order a new NFC antenna and I am going to try relocating it to the back of the battery.