I wanna throw this out there, and see if this would be useful to anyone besides me.
I use my Google Voice number as my primary number. I don't even give out my main cell. So, all of my SMS' go through GV. I also text a lot from my laptop.. cuz it's easier. I know this isn't the case for everyone, and that's why I'm posting.
Granted, the Google Voice app has recently gotten a lot better, but it's got a ways to go.
I use Handcent because I like the customization options, e.g. personalized notification sounds, notif bar icons, popups, colors, etc. I also keep a nice backlog of texts since they're searchable.
But most of my SMS logs (on handcent) consist of responses, and not my messages, whereas the Google Voice app or webpage contains the complete logs. I don't know if the messages could be scraped, and pretty sure there's not an API available (and I'm def not a developer anyway), but curious if there is an "app for this", or if this would be useful to anyone.
Basically yielding:
Accurate conversation (sms) threads in Handcent or native sms app, as well as easier backup system (for Google Voice SMS, at least).
Tangent:
In fact, I'm not sure why Google wouldn't want to give the capability to sync ALL of your SMS' to google voice.
k. hope this doesn't get moved to General land.
[QUOTE/]hope this doesn't get moved to General land. [/QUOTE]
Right, nothing is ever answered there. I would like to see something like this too.. voice should definitely have this built in.
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I would like to see something like this too.. voice should definitely have this built in.
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ya, I've been looking since the days of WinMo 6.1..
I was just about to make a thread about this. I'm willing to make a app that does this, but I don't know the file structure of where google does things.
If you download the Google Voice App, you can see that some where they store all the SMS data about a txt, they just don't expose that to the user through the web interface.
My idea is to take the Google Voice SMS DB, convert it to the XML format supported by SMS Backup & restore and then merge the 2.
If this app existed or I could make it, I would be able to send through the web-interface and my ipad, etc. Now I don't cause when people reply and I'm at my phone, I have no clue what they are talking about.
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actually, I'm going to make a thread in the dev-section about this.
I wouldn't post in the ddevsection. Its against the rules, as it doesn't belong in there.
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Too late I guess... but where on this site would a developer ask a question?
General or Q&A. or pm someone specifically
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well, I hope someone moves it then.
Just go to Google Voice, Settings, Syncs and Notifications, Receive text messages, Also via the messaging app. Now you'll get all you're messages through the stock messaging app or Handcent or whatever else you use.
In correct. Go to https://www.google.com/voice and send a SMS and then check your phone to see if that sms that you just sent is on your phone.
You will find that it isnt.
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In correct. Go to https://www.google.com/voice and send a SMS and then check your phone to see if that sms that you just sent is on your phone.
You will find that it isnt.
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Are you referring to me? I have Google Voice fully integrated and only use Handcent to text, not Google Voice. So I'll find that the text is on my phone like the other hundreds of texts I receive daily.
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Are you referring to me? I have Google Voice fully integrated and only use Handcent to text, not Google Voice. So I'll find that the text is on my phone like the other hundreds of texts I receive daily.
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yes and that misses the whole point of this request.
I (and the OP) want to be able to use the web/iOS/etc... to sent/receive SMS via Google Voice. If you do that now, the replies show up in your native app/handsent, but your txt out are only in google voice.
I want to be able to txt from my iPad through my gv# and when I go back to my android phone, I can follow the convos. Also, they would get backed up with SMS Backup+
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yes and that misses the whole point of this request.
I (and the OP) want to be able to use the web/iOS/etc... to sent/receive SMS via Google Voice. If you do that now, the replies show up in your native app/handsent, but your txt out are only in google voice.
I want to be able to txt from my iPad through my gv# and when I go back to my android phone, I can follow the convos. Also, they would get backed up with SMS Backup+
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Oh oh oh, I misread. Yes, I don't think there is a way around this.
im also very interested in this. i text all day on my comp using gv and if i try to go back and read a convo with go sms i only se received texts and not mine.
if u are willing to just turn on 3g and open the gv app, however, u can view the convo in its entirety. still would be nice to do this without having to enable data.
DeskSMS?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.desktopsms
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DeskSMS?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.desktopsms
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there are bunches of desktop sms integration things.
still that doesn't fix the issue since I want to use gv sms from my iPad.
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there are bunches of desktop sms integration things.
still that doesn't fix the issue since I want to use gv sms from my iPad.
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Hmmmmmmmmm
Why wouldn't desk sms work from your iPad? All it's doing is forwarding stuff to gmail.
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the only missing piece here with GVI is that when you send through GV, you don't get the sent messages back on your phone. The only solution that I've been able to come up with to fix this is an app that syncs between the native GVapp and the native SMS app.
there has to be a db on the phone that stores GV data for the GVapp. If someone could find that for me, that would be just swell.
Anyone ever find a resolution to this?
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I have searched many forums and the market to no avail so I was hoping someone here could help.
Is there any way we, android users, can get a function similar to iOS4 users with their "group mms" option. To those of you not familiar, its basically a chat room like feature that uses your text messages. For example, if I were to create a new text on the iphone, I could add more people to it. Once it's sent out, if anyone replies, that reply will go to all of those in the group and so forth. In essence, a chat room is created where everyone receives a copy of everyone else's text.
At any rate, a few of my friends have iphones and I was hoping to be able to communicate with them in such a manner but neither the stock messaging application or handcent has this function. The few options that might work would involve having all of my friends download some new app along with myself and even that doesn't work all the time.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
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this would be helpful for me also as i communicate with multiple people. As of right now i just email stuff out to them so we can all see the replies. To have this on text would be awsome.
I would also like to setup groups so i can just select 1 group to text. I had this on my treo pro and it disappeared when i went to these new smart phones.
As far as I know, there is no such feature currently available without the use of third-party applications (that use data to do it).
Sorry
Maybe someone will build that feature eventually lol
The iPhone's ability to 'group chat' is just Apple being smart about the fact that MMS message details contain all recipients. They simply made their SMS app able to receive all the recipients and reply to all as a group.
An Android app like Go SMS or HandCent (or Google's stock app) could easily be modified to work just like this, if someone would do it.
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The iPhone's ability to 'group chat' is just Apple being smart about the fact that MMS message details contain all recipients. They simply made their SMS app able to receive all the recipients and reply to all as a group.
An Android app like Go SMS or HandCent (or Google's stock app) could easily be modified to work just like this, if someone would do it.
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I wish someone would do it already, I felt pretty stupid the other day when I was in a group text with a couple people with iPhones and didn't know it.
App in the market called groupme works perfect even though this thread is super old lol.
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App in the market called groupme works perfect even though this thread is super old lol.
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lol last reply was may 25th, i swear that was last week! just playing but group me didn't work. It's all good, I'm hoping Android implements a feature like this soon...
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I have searched many forums and the market to no avail so I was hoping someone here could help.
Is there any way we, android users, can get a function similar to iOS4 users with their "group mms" option. To those of you not familiar, its basically a chat room like feature that uses your text messages. For example, if I were to create a new text on the iphone, I could add more people to it. Once it's sent out, if anyone replies, that reply will go to all of those in the group and so forth. In essence, a chat room is created where everyone receives a copy of everyone else's text.
At any rate, a few of my friends have iphones and I was hoping to be able to communicate with them in such a manner but neither the stock messaging application or handcent has this function. The few options that might work would involve having all of my friends download some new app along with myself and even that doesn't work all the time.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
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Have you tried GO Sms Pro it has what you are looking for built in. Gave that a Try
I've been using GOsms pro for a while and i don't see this feature listed anywhere. Where is it?
I've have also been looking for this feature. The sad part is that it was possible on my old blackjack 2. All of the messaging apps that I have used so far including go sms and handcent only allow you to send texts to more than one person in one conversation, but when they reply, it goes back to being separated. Group chat should be implemented in android like it is on the iPhone.
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I've been using GOsms pro for a while and i don't see this feature listed anywhere. Where is it?
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bump for this.
I woke up this morning to a group chat with 3x iPhone 4S users and I had to reply to each of them individually.
I use go SMS also...
I think you have to be the one to start the group chat, just start a new text message and put in all the numbers/names u wanna text, hit send. it'll automatically group them together in 1 text
bump this i have the same deal , a bunch of friends have iphones...
The sidekick 4g has this feature built in. My friend group chats with me and other friends all the time. To tell u the truth it gets annoying having so many texts at the same time lol
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Any one have solutions for this? A lot of my friends use this on iPhone and its annoying not to participate. So I'll get a text and if I respond it only goes back to the originator, while I then get what look like individual texts from others that are clearly responding and going to everyone, and I'm assuming my responses would only just go back to the original writer. Even if I could just see everyone included and then include them manually I'd be ok.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I also have this problem, and its really annoying me. For me group texts are split into each persons single sms thread, when I would like them to be grouped. Do any of the devs think that they could come up with a solution? Honestly, I would be willing to pay to get this solved
I currently have a thunderbolt and it has SOAB rom from BAMF. With this rom I can see the people on the group list. However, when i was on a different rom I would only see the sender. Since now I can see the the group, I can respond in the thread and join the chats and not be left out. the way I did it was to respond to thread in an mms format. If you guys notice, the iphone group comes in as an mms. So my question to you guys, do you see all the people on the list when you receive that message? If so try replying in a mms format. You can do that by putting a dot in the subject line and it'll convert it to mms. The only annoying part about it is yo have to manually be converting a mms message all the time. If you dont, the sms message will go to them in a seperate thread. I tried to find an app that give you the option to chose a message wheither mms or sms without adding a subject line. The only app i found was verzion messages app which auto converts group messages into mms. However, the app doesnt work all the time. I hope it works for you guys cuz I am really happy now since I dont feel left
Mine does that, although to reply to all u have to long press and select reply to all, which I think is better the iPhone does it automatically,
On sense 3.0 messaging, but sense 1 allowed for group Txts to be sent, so I imagine it had a reply all as well
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this is the new release of GO SMS, the old GO SMS will be phased out
GO SMS Pro
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jb.gosms&feature=search_result
even more features than before, gestures, more animation, more themes, and you can even create your own theme right in the app itself
GO SMS Pro Emoji Plugin
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jb.gosms.emoji&feature=search_result
emoticons compatible with iphones emoticons
emoji support is back, nice! thanks
Will check it out, thanks.
All it needs now is swipe to change messages and a way to toggle the pop-up while the screen is on.
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Whoaaa looks so much like the stock MIUI SMS app now! Will try this for sure!
Emoji does not work
I have not tested it yet with people who DO have go sms pro,
but, when I send emoji to people who DON'T have go sms pro, they do not see the emoji I attach in the message, only the regular smileys
Edit: I just read again the market description of the emoji plugin. and indeed it is stated very clearly that the recipient should have go sms pro and the emoji plugin.
In my opinion this is totally useless.
One has to convince all of his contacts to install an app before one can use it properly
That's not the right way to implement new stuff.
Imagine you could not talk to someone unless he had your dialer application....
ridiculous
Ommadawn101 said:
I have not tested it yet with people who DO have go sms pro,
but, when I send emoji to people who DON'T have go sms pro, they do not see the emoji I attach in the message, only the regular smileys
Edit: I just read again the market description of the emoji plugin. and indeed it is stated very clearly that the recipient should have go sms pro and the emoji plugin.
In my opinion this is totally useless.
One has to convince all of his contacts to install an app before one can use it properly
That's not the right way to implement new stuff.
Imagine you could not talk to someone unless he had your dialer application....
ridiculous
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So you suggest they change the SMS-standard to implement their own type of smileys? Remember that SMS is only text, and it is the SMS-app reading the SMS that translates the text 'colon-paranthesis' to an image of a smiley-face.
Ridiculous...
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So you suggest they change the SMS-standard to implement their own type of smileys? Remember that SMS is only text, and it is the SMS-app reading the SMS that translates the text 'colon-paranthesis' to an image of a smiley-face.
Ridiculous...
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I am not a developer and I don't have knowhow, but I know what sounds unreasonable.
It is very unreasonable to provide you with a tool that only works if your recipient has exactly the same tool.
Can you imagine having an sms app which messages could be read ONLY by people who had the same app? wouldn't you call that ridiculous and useless?
I don't see the difference
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Can you imagine having an sms app which messages could be read ONLY by people who had the same app? wouldn't you call that ridiculous and useless?
I don't see the difference
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I use Google Talk all the time.
whaave said:
I use Google Talk all the time.
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If you compare a small app on android to a Google application, than I have nothing more to say
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If you compare a small app on android to a Google application, than I have nothing more to say
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It's obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. What you find ridiculus I find obvious. I rest my case
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It's obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. What you find ridiculus I find obvious. I rest my case
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Whatever makes you happy
As most of you know, Google stopped the use of static dial-out numbers which many of us made use of by putting such numbers in our Fave5 or equivalent.
Has there been any work on modding the GoogleVoice apk to operate as it used to?
Thanks a bunch in advance for any help or guidance that can be provided.
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As most of you know, Google stopped the use of static dial-out numbers which many of us made use of by putting such numbers in our Fave5 or equivalent.
Has there been any work on modding the GoogleVoice apk to operate as it used to?
Thanks a bunch in advance for any help or guidance that can be provided.
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When did they stop doing this?
This isn't an answer to your question, necessarily, but I set one of my "faves" to my own Google Voice phone number (set as my Sprint "Home" number, and one of my five faves on T-Mobile), they GV Callback routes all of my outgoing calls through my own Google Voice phone number. Also fixes the call log to reflect who I actually called. It's pulled from the market, but available on amazon app store if u want a link, or are unfamiliar with it.
I use the GV app for all of my sms (so I don't know the following): if they stopped using static dial out numbers, how does it handle received SMS though the stock messaging app?
Thanks for the suggestion. I have Xinlu's GV Callback - its still available on the Amazon Appstore - but its not as elegant I'd like, and I wondered if people had actually fixed the app itself. The last version of the Google Voice Apk which used the static dial-out is still available here, but its lacking in some of the newer features and smoothness of the more recent versions of the Apk.
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I use the GV app for all of my sms (so I don't know the following): if they stopped using static dial out numbers, how does it handle received SMS though the stock messaging app?
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If you are receiving texts to the messaging app, it's because you are using the feature of the Google Voice APK which tells it to pass the message to the native messaging app.
I guess GV Callback is the only real solution, though I'm surprised the enterprising XDA folk haven't yet figured this one out!
Man, I'm surprised too. I've been looking for good gv solutions since I was using grand central on winmo.. Lol.
Btw.. If u want a nice inverted GV app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12265200
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Holy ****, that is smoking!
decalex said:
Man, I'm surprised too. I've been looking for good gv solutions since I was using grand central on winmo.. Lol.
Btw.. If u want a nice inverted GV app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12265200
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I use groove IP for calls thru WiFi. Signs into gv so number is the voice number
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I know this is the wrong thread but I thought more peole would see it here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxI1YpjkbX0ONnlLbjc0bzJjZ1k/edit?usp=sharing
SMS feature is here
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Seems to work well on Quantum via Google Voice with Voice+ activated
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Its working for me... does it not seem a bit clumsy in its implementation? You've got to switch back and forth between sms/hangouts. Two separate conversations. Not sure what I was expecting... but I dont think this was quite it.
I was reading that 4.4 would have both SMS and MMS in hangouts.
It's working for me very well. But still has some catching up to do even with the stock Galaxy s3 messaging app. Hangouts needs to be able to attach contacts or calendar or even a voice recording.
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Its working for me... does it not seem a bit clumsy in its implementation? You've got to switch back and forth between sms/hangouts. Two separate conversations. Not sure what I was expecting... but I dont think this was quite it.
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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One contact = two conversations. One for sms messages, one for hangouts messages
I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
Moved to Apps. Please adhere to Forum rule 15
Thanks
FNM
I've update to 2.0 and moved the appropriate .so file into system/lib and my videochat is still not working anybody have a solution?
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Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
https://www.copy.com/s/vRBrzPCxDE9i/Hangouts.apk
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Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
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Awesome, working perfectly! Been waiting a long time for this
Thanks, working well!
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I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
The best person to answer those questions would be yourself...since it seems you have experience with iMessage whearas we just got the app.
wizzbang3 said:
I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
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Well first off, hangouts is still technically part google talk which was an online messaging service, so the online status will still be incorporated in the app unless they take the code out and re-do the app.
And iMessage probably had its advantages in the past when messaging plans weren't unlimited but doesn't have any advantages really unless you want to know who has an iPhone and who doesn't. And since I don't have kitkat I wouldn't know if it enhances hangouts or not!
Don't think google screwed up. They did exactly what they wanted to do.
Got 2.0.018 apk?
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Thanks bud! Works great over here
I installed the Hangouts 2.0 apk the other day on my Verizon S3 running 4.1.2 and it's working perfect except I am missing one person's contact picture. He has a picture in my contacts app. Anyone else run into this?
Is anyone group chatting with iPhone users? The main screen shows all participants, but in the chat thread all messages are showing one avatar / name.
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Thanks dudes!!
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Finally!!!!
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Works great. Thanks bunch :good:
Awesome, I need to d/l this when I get a chance.