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Hi All,
I'm a long time lurker and first poster - just want to say initially thanks for all the helpful hints, tips, software etc I've picked up from the forum.
However, I've recently got a problem that I can't seem to crack and wondered if anyone has any ideas. I've tried searching but to no avail.
Randomly (and often when browsing) 'Messaging' appears on the top bar (with 'Delete' and 'Menu' on the softkey bar (as if it had suddenly shifted to an email page) but the main portion of the screen remains frozen with whatever was going on before (i.e. the webpage, today screen or whatever). It'll happen a few times then Opera crashes, but it also happens with the phone on standby (not sure if Opera was still running).
If I hit 'Menu' then 'Reply' it comes up with the latest message from my Hotmail account. I'm running Windows Live as a push account I think it may be that triggering it when it starts to sync. Perhaps some sort of problem with Opera and Windows Live when they're both running?
I've not got any serious mods installed and didn't have this problem until recently. I've got the latest versions of Opera, Windows Live and have recently reflashed the ROM in case that was the problem but no such luck.
I'm going to disable the push email and see if it still happens then try uninstalling things to see if that stops it but any suggestions gratefully received if you've had a similar problem and have managed to solve it.
Brief spec:
WinMo 6.5 (latest official HTC ROM)
UK O2 network
Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u (Ninja Duck enhanced, but it happened with the Opera official version too)
1% Battery mod
FInixNOverBatteryIconsOnly battery icon mod
sdkcerts for above
SmartPhone tracker (disabled - going to uninstall to check)
ive got the same issue with my stock att branded tilt2
hope someone knows whats causing this...
I'm now thinking it may be a memory shortage issue - last time it did it I checked on task manager and it said memory usage was 95%
It's only about 59% when I reboot so I can only assume that Opera or something is using an inordinate amount of system memory. No idea if that's it, though
HTC Imagio Too
Same problem with my HTC Imagio. Messaging just pops up randomly and for no reason. I believe, too, that it has something to do with the Hotmail push email, but it has not always done this, which is the real mystery.
I'm having the same thing happen. But when I hit the reply button, it just brings up a blank email with my address in the From line. I haven't noticed any increase in RAM though. To me, it's nothing more than a nuisance.
Same here, tmobile stock rom wm6.5.
But when I touch the center area the message tool bar goes away and I resumewhatever I was doing just fine, so I normally ignore this.
May have something to do with checking email. I don't have push (push for gmail still not good IMHO), but the phone is checking my two gmail accounts every 15 minutes.
I have this problem too, and can't stand it. Have push Hotmail via Windows Live, Sync "as items arrive" from 7am to 11pm.
I've also downloaded the HTC hotfix for SMS freezing (in case this is related somehow).
I searched for it and can't believe this hasn't been solved yet.
Same here.
I have had this problem since day one, about 5 months ago on my Tilt2. Grrr.
Same issue here.
I also have this issue.
I have observed this occur with 65% memory usage.
I can also confirm this occurs with POP3 email. I have 2 POP3 accounts and no push accounts.
It does not seem connection related, happens when connected via EDGE, 3G, & Wifi.
I am running an NRG wm6.5 ROM.
same problem here. was hoping to find a fix on here.
Same here, Verizon TP2 when I hit the messaging image, it just goes away. Using stock WinMo 6.5 rom with about 8 apps from OpenMkt. Device is pretty stable and other than above and very slow opening mail sometimes.
everyone has thais problem and no replies :-( I also have this problem
my phone freezes a lot when opening a new txt. I downloaded the hotfix sms fix from htc and when i go to install it it just says the hotfix is not compatible
I have a problem with mine regarding opening TXT messages in windows messaging app, not in the HTC txt app. When I close it, it just freezes then I have to hit the side button to reset....Anyone have a fix for this? Im running TMOUS windows 6.5
Same problem here. Although mine happens on both emails (pop and windows live) and text. Whenever I close any of them the messaging will pop up 5-30 seconds later.
Hopefully if we get enough people with the same problem someone will eventually find a solution!
EDIT: I'm running stock Verizon ROM with a couple minor mods (nothing that screws with messaging, other than the disable SMS sent popup)
Me 2
I too have the same issue with stock tmo 6.5 rom. I never noticed it with energy roms. I wonder if maybe he knows what could be causing this issue? Just an idea.
Hello all,
In the past week, Opera does not want to stay signed in/logged in to any website, including this one.
Example: I go to my iGoogle page, which should normally just come up, but I need to log in. I log in, my page shows up, great. Then I want to go to Gmail from ny iGoogle, and I have to sign in again. If I want to read an e-mail, log in again. If I want to reply to the e-mail I'm reading, log in again. Just to write this question, I had to log in twice, and I'll probably have to to submit it as well. It's getting annoying.
I have no such problems with Skyfire or the built-in IE. I haven't changed any settings, always make sure I check "stay logged in" if the option is available. I did clear cookies and cache about 2 months ago, but there was no difference until last week. The only things I have added lately were a few of brent's coloured icons. I use Clean Ram almost daily, have for months, and have soft reset at least once a week.
I have a Telus TP2 (CDMA), original ROM, using Opera that's built in.
If anyone knows or has suggestions, they would be appreciated.
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Hello all,
In the past week, Opera does not want to stay signed in/logged in to any website, including this one.
Example: I go to my iGoogle page, which should normally just come up, but I need to log in. I log in, my page shows up, great. Then I want to go to Gmail from ny iGoogle, and I have to sign in again. If I want to read an e-mail, log in again. If I want to reply to the e-mail I'm reading, log in again. Just to write this question, I had to log in twice, and I'll probably have to to submit it as well. It's getting annoying.
I have no such problems with Skyfire or the built-in IE. I haven't changed any settings, always make sure I check "stay logged in" if the option is available. I did clear cookies and cache about 2 months ago, but there was no difference until last week. The only things I have added lately were a few of brent's coloured icons. I use Clean Ram almost daily, have for months, and have soft reset at least once a week.
I have a Telus TP2 (CDMA), original ROM, using Opera that's built in.
If anyone knows or has suggestions, they would be appreciated.
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I'm not positive on this one, but I'd suspect that Opera's "turbo mode" might be stripping your saved login info...it routes all website data through their servers, so there's a chance that login info won't be persistent through that. To disable that for testing this, just select the "options" menu in Opera, and then un-select the "Opera Turbo" option near the top...then see if once you login one more time, it still doesn't retain that for you.
Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't change a thing. Had to log in 3 times just to get to this page, very frustrating.
Side note, the "options" menu wasn't where you said it was. I still found it using the search function in "opera:config". Maybe my particular build of 9.5.
Anyone else care to take a shot at it? Or should I just go to a newer version of Opera, and will it overwrite the existing one so it's the default?
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't change a thing. Had to log in 3 times just to get to this page, very frustrating.
Side note, the "options" menu wasn't where you said it was. I still found it using the search function in "opera:config". Maybe my particular build of 9.5.
Anyone else care to take a shot at it? Or should I just go to a newer version of Opera, and will it overwrite the existing one so it's the default?
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Ahh yes I'd assumed you were on 9.7 or higher, didn't realize any versions of the TP2 had 9.5 as the default version.
As I understand it, installing any version of Opera subsequent to the one installed by default on your stock ROM will actually create a completely new discreet install of the new version, and the original will still be on there...that's what happend when I installed 10.
More info can be found on my signature link
Thank you, orb3000, however, you have more than one clickable link in your signature, one of them I obviously was able to eliminate. The Opera thread has 186+ pages, and while I would love to have the time to slog through it, even a search of it yielded no results for my particular predicament.
A hint on approximately which one of those many pages would be appreciated.
This is probably a marshmallow thing as I think my N5 did it too when I upgraded to 6.0, but does anyone have a solution, my google fu shows nothing. Tried with both swiftkey and google keyboard. I can long press messages to copy them, but in the text field I can't paste anything, or copy anything I may have written. I send links to my friends and this has been especially annoying when i have to hit two buttons then open in messenger to paste something.
If I remember correctly Lollipop didn't allow this either. I am thinking it's either a 'hijack protection' feature of Android 5.0+, or a bug in Messanger.
I'm 100% certain it worked fine up until 6.0. I believe it has to do with the new security setting of Draw Over Other Apps. For a while all pictures I clicked on in Messenger would open behind the chat window and I couldn't view them either, so it's fairly likely it is a problem on facebooks side. I was just curious why I couldnt find any threads addressing this.
Everytime I try to copy when I am in facebook Messenger it crashes, but I can paste just fine. It's just when I'm copying things.
Using an older, up to date LG Nexus 5 and alao unable to long press in FB messenger.
Having the same issue on the 6P. Can definitely tell something is happening behind the window. Overlay issue. Hate this. Because these overlays are messing up other permissions. Can't activate the microphone on Amazon for search because of overlays? Hate this! Have to open up the app ( as mentioned earlier) to copy and paste. Very time consuming.
I'm guessing no one found a solution to this issue? Same problem here, can't copy/paste and images or videos open behind the chat when using a chat head.
Same problem here after upgrading to marshmallow... Previously in lollipop I can easily do that. Also I no longer can swipe away and hide incoming call head up....
If you use the messenger app without chat heads, copy/paste workshop fine.
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edgex said:
I'm 100% certain it worked fine up until 6.0. I believe it has to do with the new security setting of Draw Over Other Apps. For a while all pictures I clicked on in Messenger would open behind the chat window and I couldn't view them either, so it's fairly likely it is a problem on facebooks side. I was just curious why I couldnt find any threads addressing this.
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Exactly the same issue for me, it's a constant issue with very brief stints where pictures load as they should, any known fix for 6p?
was this ever fixed? Still have the issue on Nexus 5X 6.0.1
Started happening on my Note 5 yesteday but before it worked. Drives me insane as I lived in South America so I use translator a lot with some friends on certain things
Happens intermittently on my Nexus 6P on 6.0.1. Really gets on my nerves but good shout to the previous poster who mentioned opening the Messenger app directly, not the Chat Heads. Copying and pasting works fine that way.
edgex said:
This is probably a marshmallow thing as I think my N5 did it too when I upgraded to 6.0, but does anyone have a solution, my google fu shows nothing. Tried with both swiftkey and google keyboard. I can long press messages to copy them, but in the text field I can't paste anything, or copy anything I may have written. I send links to my friends and this has been especially annoying when i have to hit two buttons then open in messenger to paste something.
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I had that problem too! I cant remember if it started happening after updating to 6.0 or not. I disabled the facebook chat heads and I have been able to copy and paste fine after that.
snickerzz said:
was this ever fixed? Still have the issue on Nexus 5X 6.0.1
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If you turn off Chat Heads, you get the long press feature back. At least I do on my Samsung Galaxy S6 running Marshmallow 6.0.0.
You can, if you really want, turn it off, copy/paste, turn it back on.
Hope that helps!
Solved
I found 2 solutions on Samsung:
1. Using Messenger app ( not use chat head ), all androids can be paid.
2. On Samsung: using Clipboard in keyboard settings menu.
Solved
I run an HTC 10 but I have the same problem on all my phones running Marshmallow (HTC One M8, M9, M9+ and Sony Xperia Z5 Premium).
Sorted it by going into Settings/Apps/Messenger/Permissions then enabling Storage, location camera & SMS via the switches. I've found that enabling the storage permission usually solves it. It seems to be 'a marshmallow thing' and I've literally gone through all my apps & enabled them.
Is anyone having issues with some apps getting pushed back to defaults.
Examples of this is when using Samsung browser(which is stock) every few days my home page reverts back to google as my home page
I also use Verizon's messenger, I set a back ground and change the text bubble colors and shapes and a few days later they revert back to default, it's driving me crazy. I exchanged my phone due to a faulty charging port and this is happening again on this one. Please notice if this is happening to you, I thinking it's an OS issue but it's really hard to tell. Thanks for any input into this issue.
So this happened to me on 2 different A50 phone, you telling me this is not happening to anyone else ?
well what can I say but, keep an eye on your Samsung browser home page if you don't use the google.com default. I'm sure it's not only me this is happening to
louvass said:
well what can I say but, keep an eye on your Samsung browser home page if you don't use the google.com default. I'm sure it's not only me this is happening to
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This was happening on android 9, now I got the android 10 update and the same thing happens on android 10. I use the Samsung browser and every other day my home page default changes back to Google. Com, this has been happening since the first day i used the phone. Is this happening to anyone else. I am gonna try using firefox to see if this still happens. Let me know if you are experiencing this. Thanks
Just use firefox or chrome
louvass said:
Is anyone having issues with some apps getting pushed back to defaults.
Examples of this is when using Samsung browser(which is stock) every few days my home page reverts back to google as my home page
I also use Verizon's messenger, I set a back ground and change the text bubble colors and shapes and a few days later they revert back to default, it's driving me crazy. I exchanged my phone due to a faulty charging port and this is happening again on this one. Please notice if this is happening to you, I thinking it's an OS issue but it's really hard to tell. Thanks for any input into this issue.
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have you updated the apps?
I received the android 10 update, updated all apps. I am on the stock android 10 there should be no reason my Samsung browser should change my custom homepage back to Google default every 2 days or so.. There should be no reason to use chrome or firefox, i am using the default browser. This is the second A50 I have owned since September and they both did the same thing. I have a Samsung tablet also without this issue. So what's causing it any ideas? This is just Google embedding itself into every facet of our lives, Google, facebook, Twitter it's slowly taking over everything including sensoring everything that don't meet their political agenda... think about it. Social media is ruining our country. Thanks for your replies.
"This is because the browser default page and/or the bookmarks can be made persistent by the vendor configuration in the ROM. Unfortunately without rooting and tampering with the XML file, I am not sure how to fix this aside from using an alternate browser. "
source; https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/samsung-internet-default-home-page-t3857705
InFam0us-1985 said:
"This is because the browser default page and/or the bookmarks can be made persistent by the vendor configuration in the ROM. Unfortunately without rooting and tampering with the XML file, I am not sure how to fix this aside from using an alternate browser. "
source; https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/samsung-internet-default-home-page-t3857705
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Thank you, then why give the option to change it to your "custom" home page. Don't make sense, yea i use to root every device I had haven't in a while been very careful not to brick my devices. Not sure if i can with the 505u from Xfinity
Took me 3 days.... But I'm ready to release a guide.
Overall 3 minute process just need to do everything properly
This is as title states.. to FORCE chat heads back onto your phone!
If your like me you must be dreading the new bubbles feature .. missing messages, not bubbling all the time, not closing when in the app... Just overall crap!
And they have blocked older apps from sending pictures.... but I've come up with a strange fix!!!
First and foremost, if you close the app or restart your phone you WILL have to repeat this process... Simply because messenger auto updates.... But I rarely restart my phone.. and it's worth having the working chat heads back!!!
To start: go into play store and unclick auto updates for messenger
Then delete it
Then go download the app called island, set it up and get it running
Go fine the messenger app from sep to Oct of 2019 Version 234.xxx or newer by a few releases.
Install this app onto your phone
Open app and verify CHAT HEADS is still in settings and NOT bubbles!!!
Go into Island!
Click MAINLAND and scroll down to messenger
Click messenger and on the bottom right click the 2 box's with a + on it
Now it's installed in your phone a second time under workprofile.
Go into app drawer and click the second play store(with the little icon on bottom right that's the app from the island app) search messenger and DISABLE AUTO UPDATES!!!!
(If it auto updates before you did this you will need to go into Island click island at the top beside mainland, and uninstall it, then recopy it over and reset it up.
Then
In your app drawer you will see a second messenger with a little icon on the bottom right, that's the new one, open and set it up.
Again VERIFY it has CHAT HEADS in settings, this time click it and go into the app settings with the first thing it highlights (system preferences or whatever the left option is that isn't under work)
Once it loads the Android settings to allow display over other apps click work at the top and scroll down to the messenger and allow
You now have working bubbles but can't send pics yet!
To fix that problem, update the messenger app from within the play store (WITHOUT THE BOTTOM RIGHT LITTLE ICON) it will update the app installed on your phone, it will **** your app installed in island down and do some weird semi update...
Then you open the island messenger app(with icon on bottom right) to verify it it still has chat heads I'm settings if it does you are good to send pictures now with working chat heads.(if it went to bubbles the initial restart uninstall messenger from island side inside the island app, then restart the process(happened to me a few times in my testing)
This is what I'm calling an ""in-between"" 2 restart app update. As the next shutdown you'll be dealing with bubbles ...
The few quirks:
cannot close messenger or restart phone or you will need to repeat(it's about 2 minutes flat after a restart to reset it up) (slight fix aside from never restarting to begin with is I locked the work messenger app in recents window and it doesn't close anymore!)
You can't read the mainland data(aka can't send screenshots in the app inside island that chat heads works because it can't read mainland data (but there's a way to set this up I believe in settings I just can't get adb to connect) so no pics or anything from mainland apps
(My get by for this above issue is to use the updated messenger on the mainland side to send anything pic/screenshot/video wise((or move camera apps and gallery over to island and have ability to see everything done with the island side of camera apps inside the chat heads messenger)))
There is I believe a few ways to allow them to read each other I just haven't fully sug into that yet
Video recording is for some reason cut to 15 seconds with the app in island for some reason after the force update.
Sorry for this being mad long but it's not that bad it works and really only takes 2 minutes, and if wanted I can make a 3 minute screen record of the whole process.... I just couldn't take the bubbles anymore
You can't restart your phone or close the app because after you updated the mainland app(phone side messenger app) it updated the app in island as well. That's why it closes on you when updating. You get one opening of the app """in-between""" the update being applied all the way. It sometimes sticks on the first restart but just restart the process!
This goes to show it's not a security issue, or a broken feature issue, this is Facebook doing what the want as always.
Day 2 no issues
Would like to point out it's random with the video recording, you might get 15 seconds you might get 20... Idk what's up with that but it works.
And it also gets rid of the stories bubble that was always to the far left( was always an annoyance for me )
Wanna throw an update up,
I clear my cache for all apps daily... But today she got pretty laggy so I just redid my process to get chat heads back.
All still well on this truck, but seems like the app might need a restart a week in I guess.
For me this is still worth dealing with bubbles but I wanted everyone to know what they walk into ✔
Next time it gets laggy il clear data see if that works without it fixing bubbles and repost maybe il get lucky and just a data clear will work
I hate bubbles... They are so broken
Last update.
All is well I do have to reinstall the app now and then due to it getting laggy(usually a few days in or whatever)
But otherwise has been much better to deal with then bubbles.
Clearing storage makes it update so that's a no go
So I basically reinstall it once a week or so and I'm set.
Phone's been good about staying on days at a time still solid 7 hours of screen on time with screen at Qhd 120hz 510 dpi wifi on 24/7 Bluetooth on 24/7 atnt connected and verizon connected. Streaming music and watching videos for 5 to 6 of the 7 hours alive. I'm a heavy heavy user and I'm happy finally
aVider said:
I hate bubbles... They are so broken
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Me too man drives me ****ing nuts.
I do this process 2 to 3 times a week due to messenger auto updating in the background now but I'll never stop. Someone has to know how to crack this app and shut bubbles down.
They are forcing bubbles not Android. And I've had it with this crap
Last update tho, it seems to have started auto updating in the background which is okay because it's usually every few days keeps the app fresh and running smooth.
I do my process about 2 to 3 times a week but I will continue until someone figured out how to crack into this damn app and fix this for us
Someone's gotta be able to
Still going strong no issues
I have turned off bubbles in settings and it seems to stop the force updating.
Also now and then it seems to update all the way on the initial install of the main phone app I usually have the wife spam me until it's installed and that usually stoped the second app from fully updating
And last thing I use the main messenger app without chat heads to send screenshots only. With notifications off and batter optimization on.
All has been smooth and I plan to continue to do this
Bro i think i found a way .. 2 days now no bubbles
first uninstall Messenger and reboot phone
2nd. Install Messenger Build 240 .. and enable chat heads and stop auto update
3rd. Install Messenger Build 285.0.0.17.119 .. Done .. do not update it ..
now chat heads working + sending photos .. stable
EDIT :
it updated it self also :'( .. we need someone make a mod and modify APK
Master-ZizO said:
Bro i think i found a way .. 2 days now no bubbles
first uninstall Messenger and reboot phone
2nd. Install Messenger Build 240 .. and enable chat heads and stop auto update
3rd. Install Messenger Build 285.0.0.17.119 .. Done .. do not update it ..
now chat heads working + sending photos .. stable
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it updated it self also :'( .. we need someone make a mod and modify APK
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Use my method. I get a week without any issues I have to reinstall about once a week but I can feel with that over the trash bubbles.
If you guys want I can post a screen record of my process being done in about a minute flat. This seems to be the only way
Yes please record it
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Use my method. I get a week without any issues I have to reinstall about once a week but I can feel with that over the trash bubbles.
If you guys want I can post a screen record of my process being done in about a minute flat. This seems to be the only way
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Yes please record it
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Ill have a video on youtube in an hour.
It's a bit tedious but it works once you do it a couple times it's a regular thing I just can't use bubbles
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Yes please record it
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Sorry it took me so long to see your post brother but here it is if you follorlw the guide or this you will be fine.
The quality will get better when they finish processing it
I found out the hard way do not search a message with the chat heads messenger and then try to send them media. That does an instant update in the spot.
Like screenshots if your searching for a message (in the list of recent messages NOT within a single chat)
Make sure to use the second app for that
i found another way
i cloned Messenger v240 via LuckyPatcher to use it as Chat Heads
and installed Stock version via Playstore too for sending media via it
Coming back with an update and a perm fix.
This was not found by me so I can't take credit but I need to share the much more some way
New step by step guide:
Install messenger from play store
Go to appcloner.app and download the app cloner
After install open and click on messenger on the first screen then click dev options all the way down on the new screen, then go to Android version and type in 10
Confirm, let it clone and install and your set.
Delete play store copy and have fully functional chat heads on 11 no issues can restart phone and it's all working hope you all enjoy
I just couldn't deal with the bubbles
Smittyzz said:
Coming back with an update and a perm fix.
This was not found by me so I can't take credit but I need to share the much more some way
New step by step guide:
Install messenger from play store
Go to appcloner.app and download the app cloner
After install open and click on messenger on the first screen then click dev options all the way down on the new screen, then go to Android version and type in 10
Confirm, let it clone and install and your set.
Delete play store copy and have fully functional chat heads on 11 no issues can restart phone and it's all working hope you all enjoy
I just couldn't deal with the bubbles
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Doesn't work for me. App clones but it won't start
Joshgo said:
Doesn't work for me. App clones but it won't start
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Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
Joshgo said:
Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
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I will do a screen record again, it for sure works. It clones the app and makes it think it's running on an Android 10 system. I'm about a week in no issues
Joshgo said:
Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
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What worked for me with this issue was enabling skip native libraries in cloning options. Plus, I cleared all data of the play store messenger app before cloning. My cloned app didn't start before but with these changes it's working perfectly so far.
Has anyone tried this module?