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Hi just about to to root my Desire - I wonder if anyone could tell me their favourite ROM with Sense UI included (I like it!)
bump! anyone? ... going to step in randomly in bit otherwise
I have Leedroid, it's pretty good, fast and stable and has apps2sd+ (for my the main reason to root and flash) but I dislike the duplication of many apps for which sense has an alternative (eg an android and htc dialer and phonebook) so you are confronted with a choice between these apps in many instances. I would choose teppic74's rom if I hadn't installed leedroid. That said it isn't annoying enough to go trough a a reinstall and setup of the phone, so I will stick with leedroid
I also tried Aurax-Sense but really didn't like the theme otherwise it seemed quite okay
Go for Aurex T-sense...Its the best,flawless and fast I have come across so far...
Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
shoemeistah said:
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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That sounds good how do you replace a theme?
and what is the 'drag and drop' function? Thx!
i got leedroids rom dont seem to have a problem with it
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Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
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No actually it does not have a lot of memory for apps it gets full really fast, that's why everybody is using A2SD. Froyo has it's own A2SD but it's not as good as it can't install all apps to SD only those designed for it.
Personally I think it's a must.
I'm using the Alex-V 1.7 Rom, I like it as it is not too far off from an official Rom and has a couple tricks to save power. Now with S-OFF we can delete apps we dont want directly from the phone too so everything has become a lot easier.
pinky desire is also a stable one. with sense ui, no FC, and somehow long battery life. IMO. but it really depends on how you will use your phone. different people. different tastes. anyway you can try different roms. that's Android for you!
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Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
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Well for starters it misses the little indicator to show you on which homescreen you are and I didn't like the transparent notification bar, looked too messy with the background and I didn't like the exorbitant use of color in the notification icons, also too messy
btw I would also stay away from roms that undervolt/underclock it's generally bad for your battery life because the CPU is much more energy efficient when it can enter its sleepstate. Underclocking makes tasks take longer and prevent the cpu from sleeping
Thanks for the advice everyone some good tips there I guess I'll do a bit more reading and try one out! Alex, pinky, Leedroid - ok!
Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget
machmandp said:
Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget
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FYI, the battery is smaller on the desire HD because the 2nd generation snapdragon it has, has much improved battery performance so its not needed
sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device
hamdir said:
sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device
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The point is you shouldn't HAVE to root your Desire. Look at the Desire HD - 1.5GB of internal space. HTC realised they made a mistake and have now corrected this.
Just cause A2SD is available if you root some people don't WANT to root as it's shouldn't have been needed. For some warranty is actually important
hi again
I dont want to start arguments but as EddyOS wrote why should we have to root ?
to get the desire running well you have to invalidate the warranty does not sound too good.
anyhow i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
but some cannot be moved and i have 22mb free
a brief list of some of the app sizes i have
Google Maps 8.81mb
Swype 6.03mb
paypal 4.79mb
Ndrive 4.39mb
Gmail 4.1mb
Folder Org 3.88mb
launcher Pro 3.73mb
titanium Backup 2.88mb
Moblox 2.88
beautiful widgets 2.11mb
angry birds 1.92mb
just with these thats 45mb i obviously have more apps installed but as each one takes up anywhere from a few k to 2 mb then how are we expected to be able to install a good amount apps
can i do without any of the above maybe but the point is why should i have to - i purchased them and dont forget the main advertising points about Android are the Market and Customising the Launcher with Widgets.
And as regards to the desire having been chosen as the best phone i wonder how many of the reviewers actually use the phone daily or is it based on a few days usage.
I was under the impression that how i use Froyo Apps2SD was pretty much the same as Apps2SD+ but if you now different then please point me in the right direction
Thanks
A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
HTC have since addressed things with their new handsets by giving them a LOT more internal memory so this should be a thing of the past BUT it doesn't help Desire owners who, like you, can't root as there isn't a stock RUU to revert to for warranty issues (which is a whole different matter and why I only get generic handsets). The only way to incrase memory is to root
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i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
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You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is
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A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
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Not entirely correct!
If you ModInstallLocation (which does not require root) you can force most apps to move to SD with FROYO A2SD - as far as I'm aware the exceptions to this have explicity disallowed this.
The main difference between FROYO A2SD and A2SD+ is that A2SD+ relocates the Dalvik cache to SD. Both methods leave /data/data on the device which in the case of some apps (e.g. Google Earth) can be quite substantial.
Personally I use FROYO A2SD, but I've repartitioned to reclaim space from /system and I use Fusecompress to compression the Dalvik cache.
To the OP, you can argue that this is an Android OS issue, but in my opinion this was always an issue with poorly specified hardware rather than the Oscar itself.
My Galaxy Tab has 2GB set aside for applications and the Desire Z/HD have 1.5GB, which rather renders any form of A2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave
Well,if you manage to break your phone somehow make sure you break it badly enough for rendering them unable to detect if you have it rooted!
mercianary said:
You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is
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But you can remove the root right?
Because my Desire started up with the "rebootloop by itself" issue a month ago while I had LeeDroid 2.2x running, and so I removed root by installing a RUU and then sent it away for service like yesterday.
And then they can't void the warranty then right? RIGHT??? :S
Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Oh, didn't think about that at all.
Hmm, well then he does have some valid complaints. My biggest problem with the unrooted Desire is the internal memory, and I certainly didn't have any idea how small it was prior to purchase and just took for granted that you could store apps on the SD.
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Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Yep that's a big problem for me
As i said i have root but i thought (right or wrong) that if i ever have a problem there is more chance of the service centre not spotting anything if i still have the stock orange rom.
Also when i looked into flashing roms i'm sure that there was an issue with the Orange radio that caused massive problems and that really put me off from doing that.
I must admit i now have 19mb free and have had to delete some apps today after installing the flash update (Another 10mb) and it seems that updates are slowly eating all of the memory and surely HTC must have known this was going to be a problem.
Still i'll now try to look into maybe flashing a rom with APPS2SD+ and see if it's ok to do. i'll also hope for an Orange RUU to be leaked soon
Thanks all
This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on
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This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on
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thanks
sounds like my only choice to avoid the low space
just need to double check the Orange radio thing first
Thanks all
The newer radios should work OK, if not you can use the radio you're on at present assuming you're on Android 2.2 at the moment (albeit the Orange version) - flashing a custom won't touch the radio unless it's included in the ROM file
The radio hasn't been a problem for a while. The newer radios wont lock your device.
My first orange desire was locked by a radio update. I had to fix it with an unlock code.
My second orange desire (warranty replacement) was not locked when I flashed the most recent radio.
Excellent thanks
One more quick question if I may
In your experience would I be better getting a fast mem card as I only have class 2 at the moment
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I use a class 2 16GB card and have no issues
hi
well i finally got round to flashing a new rom
went for the leedroid in the end with A2SD+
I had a few issues but read up and worked around them although i read about a gold card but never created one so i hope i'm not setting myself up for a fall without it.
anyhow i'm glad i did it with loads of apps installed i still have 85mb free and nowhere near filled up my 1gb ext3 partition
thanks for the advice all
Hi all,
I am new to flashing custom ROM but am glad that I manage to do it and have LeeDrOid 2.3d installed now. Flashed a custom glass theme and also flashed the fly-in animation and a customized color of notification bar for better viewing, too. Really love it a lot and thanks a lot to the developers!
However, I found that my Desire would lag significantly and also unable to pull down the notification bar during any installations of apps. Don't recall they on my stock ROM.
So, my question is, what is the cause of this, and is there a way to rectify this?
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It is because of the A2SD+. Having that lag too, when installing.
Basically the phone copies the app to the ext partition and it's get laggy (since the SD card is under heavy use). Nothing to worry about.
Could that be the class of my SD Card? It's a terrible Class 2.
So, any A2SD+ ROM would suffer from this issue? Will a better class of SD card be rectified?
you may experience lags if using a2sd+ rom on a class 2 sd card while installing
however it is also ROM related
on old baadnewz dhd roms (like 1.5version) i also had a big lag while installing an app but right now on 1.9 version it is totally gone despite my class 2 sd card
ps. yes - better SD card will improve situation
Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.
i do have desire too, have rooted recently , have tried, various roms , like , leedroid, starburst, coolz etc, now using gingervillian ,
i felt like you before but rooting will give you choice of OS to install and you dont have to wait OTA update to use gingerbread or latest OS.
if you need more space then starburst might be your choice.
I never regret rooting my phone, it is awesome! Really do recommend it!
Of course
It's better,faster,smoother,more space for apps
Yes, you should've.
Take a look on Leedroid ROM, its fairly easy to start with. Ofcourse you need to Root your phone first. (lots of guides on forum just search)
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Joshua3109 said:
Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.
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Yeah, you can "fix" your main complaints rooting your phone and installing a Custom ROM. The lack of internal memory can be fixed using App2SD+ or a clean AOSP ROM (like Oxygen, my current ROM) and a custom HBOOT partition (giving less space to the /system partition and a lot more space to /data). Of course, in this case you lost HTC Sense, but if you really like Sense just search for App2SD+. And Custom ROMs are updated a lot more than oficial, you can already have Gingerbread on your Desire and even Honeycomb (early and broke port, but it's getting better).
And a rooted phone is way more fun IMHO. You can use some great apps that will never work without root (like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, ROM Manager, ShootMe, SetCPU etc) and you can do almost anything to the system. It's great.
Joshua3109 said:
Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.
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There isn't a single Desire running an official version of Honeycomb so you're not missing out there. 2.2 is out on Telus now so really don't know what you're on about!!
Anyway, yes a custom ROM is good but it's not the be all and end all. I've got over my ROM-flashing days and now only change when something is worth switching for. Otherwise I use my own ROM. That way I can add/remove what I want and not what someone else thinks I should be using
Read up a lot, ask questions (if you can't find answers) and don't let others dictate what you do. Root it because YOU want to, not because everyone says to
I unrooted my Desire recently, i realised that i dont need root anymore.
Froyo A2SD is good enough for me and i prefer Sense. Currently im waiting for the GingerSense update that ships in June. The leaked Saga ROM looks very promising - it even has a build in notification power widget.
You could use a GoldCard do debrand if you dont want to wait for Telus to push OTA updates.
The simple answer, in my humble opinion, is root your phone! I agree with the comment before mine and you should only mod your phone if your want to and are happy to tinker with it. Like the old days playing with PSP's and the like all mods carry risks of bricking but most answers I needed were in this forum somewhere. I have never regretted rooted my Desire and have helped several friends do theirs. Along the way I've tried different roms and made a few mistakes but I now enjoy my phone more than when I first got it. For rooting I would recommend searching out unRevoked it's one click rooting is brilliant although make sure you have the right adb drivers for your computer before starting! I first started with LeeDroid as the Apps to SD Card is already implemented for you so very little fiddling to do, you will need to be able to partition your SD card to use this function tho but you sound like you have some base knowledge so that shouldn't be too tricky. I'm now using GingerVillain 1.6 and love it, its quick smooth and meets all MY needs it might not be the one for you tho. Biggest tip? Read research and ask before starting anything there's normally someone out there that has done or about to do whatever you're thinking of so find out first before pressing enter and swearing for several hours!
So after having gotten my first GS2 back in mid-april and having only rooted it three days later... I decided on BlueKuban ICS since it was very easy to set up and use (as a completely new android noob)
Anywho, I'm feeling frisky! (And want to be able to easily theme my ROMs / Install other peoples themes) And have since started using miui 2.6.15 ICS.
Some things I noticed off the bat:
-SD Card / Internal HD issues:
I of course made to sure to follow the installation instructions to the (T). Flashed External.zip after flashing the rom..... But there's now internal storage showing less then 3gigs total space...... then the internal storage with ~11gigs (which is the normal SG2's HD space) then even though its still labled as "internal storage" there's my 32gig SD card.
This is not helping my OCD ._. Is this a known issue with miui due to the way it is installed?
-Lockscreen widgit:
I love it! Except I uninstalled alot of stuff I don't want to use like the default Messaging app and the muui music app. Now on the lockscreen going to the message or music icon fails to launch a program (Well I understand why......)
My question: Is there a way to tinker with it to launch the programs I want it to? (Gvoice for messaging and DoubleTwist for music.)
-Themes
I've looked @ the in-phone browser for them.... but was wondering, is there a proper US/English forum/thread/sticky where I could find some themes? ^_^ Google helped me peruse some deviant art posts, but not a designiated list as I was looking for.
Well sorry to rabble on, was going to blurb just my two main questions on the actual MiUI Dev Thread however am still under the 10 post limit (And their Epic 4G Touch thread is very.... well empty )
Hiya!
In terms of SD issues ... they have always been a problem because we don't have kernel source. The devs working on MIUI have found work arounds that at least get apps on the phone to start recognizing files on the SD (pictures, videos, music, etc) but bugs are gonna be there until kernel source is available to iron them out.
In terms of the MIUI lockscreen, these things are coded into the theme. Last time I checked, if you look through the MIUI theme files, there should be a .xml that *might* allow you to change what the lockscreen "buttons" lead to. However AFAIK you cannot change it any other way. (I may be wrong)
Themes can be found around the English MIUI forums. I never tried them though but they're there. Make sure the theme you're looking at is for ICS versions of MIUI otherwise it may/may not work.
That's all I've got for now, I hope this helped. MIUI is truly a great ROM, just a bit hard to get down straight >_>