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[Q] Different "levels" of recovery?

Some time ago i rooted my phone with Unrevoked, at that time it flashed Clockworkmod 2.5.0.1 to my phone. Since then i've been upgrading my recovery through ROM Manager, or so i thought anyway. Because using "Reboot into recovery" from ROM Manager, takes me to recovery with version 2.5.0.7 of Clockworkmod, but if i manually go into recovery, by turning the phone off and holding down the volume and the power button, i get to Clockworkmod 2.5.0.1 still.
Why is it like this? Almost like there is "different levels" of recovery modes? Do i have two different recoveries installed on the phone or something? And how do i flash my recovery so that when i boot into recovery the manual way, it's the latest as well?

Been doing some thinking, the reason ROM Manager doesn't seem to update the version when am booting into recovery the manual way, is it because of this S-ON thingy?
Did some reading on: http://alpharev.shadowchild.nl/ and there is some kind of security on /system and /recovery(which Alpharev can remove, but i haven't tried it yet), is this the reason why ROM Manager doesn't flash the recovery?
If so, when i click "reboot into recovery" from inside ROM Manager, what kind of recovery does it take me to, since the version obliviously is updated there?
Edit: Maybe it's only doing a "fake-flash" of the recovery from inside ROM Manager? Because of this security thingy on /recovery? If so, how do i permanently update the recovery? Is it only possible through unrevoked? And if i use Alpharev, will ROM Manager then be able to permanently update the recovery?

Yes you are right assuming it has to do with s-off. Koush circumvented this by using fakeflash which is automatic applied when rebooting using Rom manager.
And yes making the phone s-off will make Rom manager able to flash the recovery, but it won't because at the time it was made s-off wasn't available. So it will need an update from koush.
To flash a recovery you download it as an img file to your computer and flash it using fastboot.

Okay, thanks for the answer.

Flash Clockworkmod Recovery 2.5.0.7

Please I need your help.
I have rooted my HTC desire (not sim locked) with software Unrevoked and work great. The version of Clockworkmod is 2.5.0.7 and I found newer 2.5.1.2-bravo from this site. I can`t put the new version via ROM manager and Unrevoked.
I use custom rom: latest version of MIUI
ROM manager:
tryid with recoveries and select 2.5.1.4 and get error "An error occurred while ndonloading your recovery"
Unrevoked:
Select the .img file and phone boots twice and nothing happens.
Can you maybe tell me what is going wrong....
PS: I can put custom rom and partition my micro sd without problems.

[Q] how to remove amonra recovery

So I don't want to unroot. I have amonra, clockwork, and rom manager. When I boot into recovery it goes straight to ra recovery, I have to flash the update.zip to get to clockwork. I would just like it to boot straight to clockwork or to remove ra
I installed rom manager the other day and updated to the latest version thinking that would overide ra when booting to recovery from rom manager, only for ra to come up saying 'bad' update.
I know this will more than likely be simple, I have done a few searches but not found much apart from unrooting.

stevoh84 said:
So I don't want to unroot. I have amonra, clockwork, and rom manager. When I boot into recovery it goes straight to ra recovery, I have to flash the update.zip to get to clockwork. I would just like it to boot straight to clockwork or to remove ra
I installed rom manager the other day and updated to the latest version thinking that would overide ra when booting to recovery from rom manager, only for ra to come up saying 'bad' update.
I know this will more than likely be simple, I have done a few searches but not found much apart from unrooting.
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you need to re run unrevoked and untick use custom recovery so it flashes clockwork or use custom and select a clockwork recovery of choice
its in the clockworkmod thread in the dev section and the amonRA thread
please read them

Hello!
You need to unrevoked again....Downolad unrevoked for your phone, BEFORE to plug your phone to your computer go in the up left corner and choose your recovery , wich can be amonra or clockwork mod, let computer do the job and voila! You are donne

Thanks you very much dudes. I was a total noob to all things root when I did mine and just followed steps from a mate. I couldn't remember how RA got on there. Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Hey, so I hope you guys check this. I tried running the unrevoked again.
Only for it to seemingly get right to the end and attempt root (I thought it was just going to reflash and slap the clockwork in there) for it to say Error: failed to get root - Is your firmware too new?
Is there an easy way around this? Or is it the rom I am running??
I haveOxygen-20. RC6

stevoh84 said:
So I don't want to unroot. I have amonra, clockwork, and rom manager. When I boot into recovery it goes straight to ra recovery, I have to flash the update.zip to get to clockwork. I would just like it to boot straight to clockwork or to remove ra
I installed rom manager the other day and updated to the latest version thinking that would overide ra when booting to recovery from rom manager, only for ra to come up saying 'bad' update.
I know this will more than likely be simple, I have done a few searches but not found much apart from unrooting.
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how did u do that ?!?! i have ra recovery but dont want it beacuse strangely i cant and am unable to flash an roms by it !! i dunno wat d fault is but im doing evrythn correctly.. plz help me ! can i have two recoverys like u ? and how !? btw i have lg p500... plz help ! i want some other recovery so that i can flash roms from it... for some reasons im not being able to flash roms from ra recomery aka "amon_ra_recovery_installer".. any help will be appreciated !!

You don't get 2 recoveries. If you 'fake flash' using ROM Manager it'll lose CWM instead of your normal recovery

You could try to S-OFF with AlphaRev iso (which will also update the recovery to CWM-AlphaRev 2.5.1.8 with dark blue color)
When you are S-OFF you can update the recovery with fastboot
If you don't want or cannot do all this, you could try to fake flash the CMW 3.2 recovery when you need it.
Fake flash means to load another recovery (3.2) while in recovery (2.5) by simply applying a zip file. You then have all the feature of the 3.2 recovery without permanently installing it.
1) put the zip with 3.2 recovery on your SD card (zip in thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1039954)
2) boot in recovery
3) apply the zip (like you would flash a rom, but it only loads the 3.2 recovery operating system without removing/deleting any file in your phone). You should notice the text color change and a few more options in the menu.
4) enjoy
Fake Flash is more or less what what Rom Manager is doing when you use it to reboot in recovery mode (but it only supports a restricted set of recovery versions that have been tuned to work with Rom Manager).
Another benefit of fake flash is that you can still use your old nandroid backups, as it it not recommended to restore with recovery X a backup made with recovery Y.

CWM update - after boot come back to the old version

Hi,
I have CWM 2.5.0.1 on my desire after I rooted it with unrevoked in august.
I tried couple of times to update it to newer version and saw it working but after rebooting the desire and going into recovery with power button + vol. minus, I always see that it came back to the older version.
How to update it so it stays the updated version forever ?

Flash it properly and not through ROM Manager/a ZIP file

How to flash it properly ? Please explain.
Thanks

When you root with unrEVOked flashes a permanent version of a custom Recovery - either CWM or AmonRA (if you choose custom). If you then use ROM Manager (which is rubbish) it will load the latest one as a 'fake flash' which won't be there next time you load recovery.
You'll need to run unrEVOked again and flash the new CWM image if you want it

Thank you for explaining this to me.

Ok, Tried what you said with unrevoked and at the end unrevoked gives me an error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new ?
I have baadnewz insertcoin 1.8f dhd rom and already rooted from august.
checked and still on the boot the recovery is 2.5.0.1 of CWM.
I choose custom recovery and tried to flash 2.5.0.7 CWM.
Can't understand what wrong with it.

Why do you need the new version? If you've already got CWM then just stick with it

Because I have an old version that causes some problems when I flashed insertcoin dhd rom.
Also tried with adb in fastboot and got an error that said signature verifaction error.
I'm stuck with cwm 2.5.0.1 :-(
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Go get Android Flasher and then just use that to flash the recovery image.

[Q] Clockworkmod help!

ok. so I need to be able to use amend scripting and im currently on Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5. When i try to flash an older clockwork or Amon RA through ROM manager, It just very quickly says "recovery flashed successful" but it never really flashes the recovery. I reboot into recovery and its still 3.0.0.5... I used to be able to flash the recovery fine. I have CM7nightly 66, Tiamat 4.01, and Hboot .93. I have tried several times and nothing. ROM manager says it flashed successfully, but i still have the same recovery. I even tried running the Amon RA update.zip, but hboot wouldnt pick it up... please help!!! thanks in advance...

So you couldn't ask this in the question and answer forum?
Try the PC36IMG way to flash amon RA or clockwork.
Or try flashing through terminal using the flash_image command
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

ugh. fail.
change to PC136IMG.zip and flash it that way.