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Few questions....

Hi i got many questions...and issues
-Internal memory : jeez i installer 2 dozen applications and i got 13m left and the alert about low memory (which cant be deleted)
seriously??? 13mb left???? how can it be possible ! when i check the application list, i have like 40-60mb (made a quick calcul) installed ! i cant even isntall google earth ! and what the hell is "contact list" app? its almost 30mo!!
-Wifi tethering : any way without root? for tether with ipad
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
thanks a lot

You want WinMo

oh no i dont

For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs

EddyOS said:
For all those questions, yes you do as it does them...the Desire doesn't as yet.
- It has Push for Googlemail, I think there is another app you can use for other account types
- Can't change default apps
- Can't use other SMS software (I don't think, could be wrong)
- Can't tether without rooting (as you've said)
HD2 does all these, some stock some with custom ROMs
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- what about the support for Exchange push in the mail program?
-if you install another program, you may be able to. you can remove the defaults for applications in the settings. that's why you can switch between homescreens once you have installed launcher2.apk....
- there's plenty of other SMS software in the market, ChompSMS, Handcent etc.
- yes, you need to root.

But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.

rhedgehog said:
But overall, yeah, it sounds like for the kinda stuff you want to do, winmo would be better all round.
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some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth

totorip said:
some are minor
but the memory issue is absoluterly TERRIBLE and not normal
what the **** seriously? cant even instal google earth
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Honestly you don't need google Earth it's 22mb and the maps does the same thing!
Also big drain on battery (Earth and Maps) so not something you would want to use all the time anyhow.
Search around for apps as you may find one that does same but for less space.
Also, are you using all the apps? Are a lot of them just games?
Be smart with the limited space.
It's not ideal I know, but until anything changes not a lot you can do.

-Internal memory
Yes, this is a pain. I wish Google would let us put stuff on SD card already without having to root the phone and HTC needs to put less preinstalled crap too replacing it with OTA on demand instead. Teeter? WTH!
-Wifi tethering
Yes, PDANet and some other application allow BT/WiFi/USD tethering with Windows/OSX and Linux. Probably not with iPad because it has no USB, BT is crap (if same as on iPhone) ... not real OS X.
-Push mail through the HTC app...possible?
No. Google's own email app will do push for Gmail accounts only. HTC email will check at specified intervals.
-How can i change the defaut app to open for X action...
You can't, as far as I know.
-Can i use another SMS software with the HTC message widget? exemple when i click new message it open the defaut one...
Yes. There are two very popular ones, but HTC's own is all I need.
-How can i use picasa ? i keep having an error (authentification...) in gallery app.
Yes. Not sure about your error. You can get Gallery app from N1 and use that instead of HTC's Photos.
-voicesearch and speech to text. Installed HTC IME KB, Voice app and nothing work. I cant have the keyboard in the list of KB. And voice search doesnt work...(error connex)
Hmm, by default HTC IME doesn't do voice. I installed Voice Search with Android default keyboard and have that feature now. Although I rarely use it. Swype FTW! Check the forums there was a link to the apk to get it all working.

thanks a lot...for the answer even though some are really mindblowing in the worst way
thx !

yup yup
You've summed up some of the biggest problems with Android and the Desire.
The inability to install apps to an SD card is a big problem - one that can be solved by waiting for root, or by waiting for the next release of Android (I think Google have said they are working on this feature for the next version). Basically, just by waiting.
I use IMAP IDLE with the K-9 email app for push IMAP email from my fastmail.fm account. Works instantly and perfectly. Love it.
Hope this helps a little.

what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!

i deleted it
lost all my contact
synced again with google , i have them back..and no ****ty 30mb file
what was it??

totorip said:
what the hell is "contact list" (in application / manage application)
its 28mo!!!
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My Applications/Manage Applications FCs on me all the time (it is probably some app installed from apk that causes this problem). Don't see said app show up in APK or ASTRO.

i dont get what u mean

[Q] Will the Desire do what my Diamond 2 does?

I am currently using a Topaz windows mobile based phone, and thinking about switching to a Desire.
However, I use my phone extensively for business, and need to know if there are some things that Android will allow.
First off, I need to be able to access my home network with the wireless. Currently I use Resco explorer, browse to my server share, and copy the files I will need to the SD card. Is this possible on Android? Is it just as easy? I often have to do this first thing in the morning, when I don't have a lot of time. This is an absolute deal breaker for me, so I am really looking for some help before I commit to a new phone.
Non show stoppers but nice to have;
Cookie's Home Tab type display , which allows me to show my next 3 calendar appointments, and 3 tasks on the home screen. Will Sense allow this on the Desire? I like the Sense interface and widgets, so would prefer to keep Sense, but am prepared to apply additional software to allow me to do what I need to. (Paid or otherwise).
The ability to map hardware keys to specific functions (eg I currently have long press on the back key to switch off my wifi. Handy for in the car, when I forget to switch it off).
Ability to edit open office, and ms office documents.
That's it I guess. Any and all feedback very much appreciated.

1) yes you can browse files on your home network using the desire, you need 3rd party software tho also there are apps that will let you controll your pc and or device remotlely from your device and or pc
2) there are loads of calendar widgets on the marketplace im sure one will take your fancy
3) the wifi will switch itself off after x amout of time idle
4) the desire comes with quick office out of the box but there are tons of office apps so yeah

Just a small warning if you think to sync your mobile with the PC (callendar, notes, mails, contacts) via bluetooth - it's not possible in android.
Well, not entirely true, as there is "Missing Sync" in the market, but costs for about $40 - a bit too much.
So, try to love your usb cable

Or sync through the google things and sync your home stuff with the google things. For me it's annoying as I hate the google things, but it does sort of work.

dysje said:
Or sync through the google things and sync your home stuff with the google things. For me it's annoying as I hate the google things, but it does sort of work.
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Why would you buy a google thing-centric phone if you hate google things?

On it's way
Thanks guys, you've convinced me.
Ordered from O2 for the princely sum of £285 + VAT, which I thought was a mistake, but it seems not. Be rude not to at that price.
Bit of luck it will arrive tomorrow, as I'm not working, so can play all day

JohnSteveDoe said:
Why would you buy a google thing-centric phone if you hate google things?
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Just to give one example - I would not want to share with google my company contacts.
Also I preffer to keep business calendar outside of google (with all the respect)
Regards
R
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remmyhi said:
Just to give one example - I would not want to share with google my company contacts.
Also I preffer to keep business calendar outside of google (with all the respect)
Regards
R
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You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?

brummiesteven said:
You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?
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lol ..........

brummiesteven said:
You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?
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Why would they bother with your phone when they've got street view cars to access open WiFi networks?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Most people here swear by Astro file manager and their add ons.
Check out the Sense agenda widget for upcoming appointments and tasks.
Widgets are the way to go, Sense widgets for WiFi, mobile connectivity, airplane mode etc etc etc......
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks JabbaFat32.
Will check both of those out.

Migrating from Desire to Desire HD - advice & suggestions pls.

Hi all. I'm considering getting a Desire HD in the new year. But before I make the final decision I'd like to find out what would be involved in migrating my apps & data etc from my current Desire.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my HTC Desire

I suppose it all depends on if the HD has been rooted by then and if you could use Titanium Backup?
You could maybe use Appbrain to make a list of your apps installed on your Desire and then login to Appbrain on the HD and install the apps from there?
Your phone numbers and email addresses should be saved in your Gmail account, and will be imported when you set up the device.

No plans to root any of my phones at present
StuMcBill said:
I suppose it all depends on if the HD has been rooted by then and if you could use Titanium Backup?
You could maybe use Appbrain to make a list of your apps installed on your Desire and then login to Appbrain on the HD and install the apps from there?
Your phone numbers and email addresses should be saved in your Gmail account, and will be imported when you set up the device.
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Thanks StuMcBill perhaps I should have added I don't intend to root any phone that I have or intend to purchase in the near future.
I was under the impression that my app purchases/installs were stored somewhere linked to my Google account. With this in mind if I had another phone with the same Google account, when I logged in to the Marketplace my phone would display my apps albeit not installed yet.
I can see why that might not work though.
Do I really need to root one or both phones and then buy/install and use a 3rd party app to migrate to a new phone...?

Your app purchases are recorded so once you log in on the HD it will download them but it doesn't know your download history. As said contacts will be dragged on if u use Google contacts (best way of doing it if you ask me). Things like SMS/MMS can't be backed up/migrated without rooting AFAIK

SpartanGrey said:
Hi all. I'm considering getting a Desire HD in the new year. But before I make the final decision I'd like to find out what would be involved in migrating my apps & data etc from my current Desire.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I'd say wait for Q1 2011... and Tegra 2 porcessors from Nvidia.
The HTc desire HD is still in the same playground than the n1 ..htc desire and others...

Desire vs Desire HD
To add to the conversation: Desire HD is a Desire, but with a bigger screen. That's obvious, but the equation is purely between:
*bigger screen
*less quality screen
From what I've seen, it's not worth switching in terms of price and screen quality vs bigger screen.
Indeed, I'll await new candy with serious power (as if the Desire doesn't have power enough). And yes, bigger screens with superb quality

It's not *only* the screen difference.
HD has much larger internal memory
HD has (much probably) better CPU/GPU
etc.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3468&idPhone2=3077

Dolby Mobile and SRS sound enhancement on the Desire HD

EddyOS said:
Your app purchases are recorded so once you log in on the HD it will download them but it doesn't know your download history. As said contacts will be dragged on if u use Google contacts (best way of doing it if you ask me). Things like SMS/MMS can't be backed up/migrated without rooting AFAIK
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Thx EddyOS. I think that caps it. With regards to download history are you referring to browser or app marketplace?
I store my contacts in a couple of places but not primarily on Google - so that's less of an issue. BTW I back up my texts using an app called SMS Backup. Sends everything to a folder on gmail.
Sent from my HTC Desire

I delete SMSs as soon as they're read, and archive emails as soon as they're read...don't like clutter

Copy and Paste Hotkeys

Hey folks,
I've been able to get by, copy pasting using a long press. But I've noticed that it doesn't work in a number of areas. I had trouble with the native email (not gmail) app. I want to copy a tracking number from the email, but there's no way to do it. I even tried to reply and fwd the email to make the text editable... but no luck.
Long pressing in the email app seems to highlight the text, but no options come up, and the menu button gives me irrelevant settings.
It seems that there is no hardware shortcut or hotkey to copy and paste! This is terrible and so inconvenient.
Does anyone know a way to program the quick keys to perform cut, copy and paste maneuvers? I imagine it would be pretty simple to do. It would finally make good use of those 3 crummy keys.
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I have no trouble copying from my email... you long press, drag the highlight across your desired text, and then tap quickly... a toast messages appears saying that it was copied to the clipboard...
What ROM are you using?
Edit: Ah, I see you're also running CM7. You should have the capability.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I can copy/paste from gmail without issue by long pressing. But it won't work from the email app that I use for my yahoo account.
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funkeee said:
I can copy/paste from gmail without issue by long pressing. But it won't work from the email app that I use for my yahoo account.
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Yeah, I can copy/paste from my non-gmail email application too. Mine is AOL, but really it should not matter... that's weird it doesn't work you... lemme try something...
I just tried copying in gmail and it works the same as my other email...

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bp.android.zarrow
maybe this can help you, it adds a possibility to have hardware copy/paste shortcuts
MENU+A -> select/deselect all
MENU+C -> copy selected
MENU+V -> paste

Thank you for the replies!
I figured it out. The problem I had was that I couldn't perform the copy function in the native email (not gmail) app. I managed to select the text with a long press, but there was no way to copy it to my clipboard... or so I thought. Turns out pressing the trackpad once the text is selected copies it!
And thanks for the app suggestion. I was rooting around the dev guide hoping to map the quick keys to cut, copy and paste. That would make good use of them
EDIT: Sorgo, I can't seem to download that app. Oddly enough I can't download most apps recently because the market claims my device is not compatible. This happened not too long ago. I'm on CM7 #220 running 2.3.7. I thought it was because I had changed my resolution in my build.prop file, but even with a default build.prop, I can't download a thing. Any suggestion there?
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funkeee said:
Thank you for the replies!
I figured it out. The problem I had was that I couldn't perform the copy function in the native email (not gmail) app. I managed to select the text with a long press, but there was no way to copy it to my clipboard... or so I thought. Turns out pressing the trackpad once the text is selected copies it!
And thanks for the app suggestion. I was rooting around the dev guide hoping to map the quick keys to cut, copy and paste. That would make good use of them
EDIT: Sorgo, I can't seem to download that app. Oddly enough I can't download most apps recently because the market claims my device is not compatible. This happened not too long ago. I'm on CM7 #220 running 2.3.7. I thought it was because I had changed my resolution in my build.prop file, but even with a default build.prop, I can't download a thing. Any suggestion there?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Im also having that problem with apps
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ

Don't know if they found a solution, but these users are too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269032&highlight=market+device+-capatible&page=2

I managed to download Z Arrow. I will test it out tomorrow, thank you.
I went back to my default build.prop at 240 lcd density and cleared the market cache. By the way, neither of this two things alone ever worked for me, but together it seems to do the trick and fix the incompatibility issue I mentioned earlier.
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Letters in main menu.

Hello. I just discovered a strange thing and I don't know how to get rid of it. So i was adding some music and I deployed "Sound enhancer" and after that my phone grouped all my apps in menu like it is done in people tab. So i have a huge letter above all my apps which makes my menu longer and it takes more time to find an app. It also doesn't look eyecandy. So i want you to ask how to get rid of those letters and bring my menu back to normal state.
Regards
okey~

It's not a bug, it's a feature. After a cetain amount of apps this is added to your menu. When you touch on one of the letters in the menu it will bring up a screen of letters. Touch on one of these and it will take you to those apps starting with the corresponding letter. This was added to reduce scrolling when you have a large amount of apps. If you do not like it I believe that uninstalling enough apps to bring you below the limit will disable the feature.

I know how it works. But is there no way to bring it back without uninstalling apps?

Not sure it goes away even if you uninstall apps.

okeyus said:
I know how it works. But is there no way to bring it back without uninstalling apps?
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Nope.
Surely it makes scrolling faster, not longer? For example, rather than scrolling all the way down to, say, 'Skype'...two taps and you are there in the 'S' section..
Either way, it cannot be disabled (except perhaps if you are fully unlocked, and edit the registry?)

jasonkruys said:
Nope.
Surely it makes scrolling faster, not longer? For example, rather than scrolling all the way down to, say, 'Skype'...two taps and you are there in the 'S' section..
Either way, it cannot be disabled (except perhaps if you are fully unlocked, and edit the registry?)
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You are right, and think only a fool might want to disable it! I purposefully installed 4 apps more that I won't ever use just to get those indexed letters on!

Use voice instead, it is the fastest. Hold windows key and say start "app name"
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ROCOAFZ said:
Use voice instead, it is the fastest. Hold windows key and say start "app name"
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OMFGYKM!
I had no idea you could use speech recognition to open apps. Sweet. I'm still enjoying sending SMS while driving or doing the dishes via my bluetooth headset.

anseio said:
OMFGYKM!
I had no idea you could use speech recognition to open apps. Sweet. I'm still enjoying sending SMS while driving or doing the dishes via my bluetooth headset.
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It gets better - say find "whatever address"
It will give you directions also (right above the web search)
or find "Store name" it will show that store closes to you.
and try find "movie name"
It will show theaters near you playing the movie
and find "weather in san fransisco" for example will show 5 day forcast via bing in websearch
Then find an iphone user that has siri and show him opening apps. Siri doesn't do that yet i use find flashlight all the time to use htc flashlight. it auto comes on when the app opens and it great for opening car or house door in the dark
enjoy!