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I have had an XDA IIs for a week and the thing is *riddled* with bugs. A few that come to mind:
Add a new profile to connection manager and then add a 'modem' to that connection. Go and fiddle elsewhere for a while. Often when you come back to change the settings for that connection the 'modem' has dissapeared. (its still there, a soft reset will cause it to re-appear).
Take the unit out of range of your wifi while running an app that does nots of network activity, and you will have to do a soft reset in order to restore network connectivity. This occurs mainly with skype
WiFi Reception is **attrocious** my laptop will tell me that I have a full signal and the XDA IIs will barely register when at the same location. Even holding the damned thing 1 ft from the base station does not cause the signal indicator to head to maximum.
When you use bluetooth, for network access, all the stuff in connection manager gets reset.
Often, after setting connection manager to always use certain profiles, and then encountering a problem, you head into connection manager and find that your selections never stuck
VPN connections do not always stick when set, they dissapear from the menu.
I have tried for ages and failed to make a VPN connection over anything GPRS, WiFi etc. VPN was one of the reasons that I bought the device (access to home and work networks), but it just does not work. Additionally, the instructions with the unit offer no help about how to get it working.
The bundled O2 active stuff is very flaky. Take the end programs applet - it often crashes its self while trying to force an app that is 'not responding' to stop. The built in 'stop app' applet (which they burried in settings) seems to work but...
Getting an app in a not responding state is well easy - just use it normally! Messenger prog is the worst. Usually requires use of 'end now' option
IMAP support is very very bad. Its quite common for an IMAP server to not store mail folders in the root. In decent clients you can specify the root imap folder, not in pocket outlook, it ends up pulling the entire dir struct from your home dir!! I rebuilt the imap daemon on my linux box to compile in a default root folder. This solved the previous problem, but the imap support is not suitable for use away from wifi cause its so damned slow. It does not just look for new messages, and there is no way to tell it to do this. Also, when you send an item it ends up in the default sent items, not the imap sent items. Imho, the main reason to use imap is to keep your emails intact (be able to see what you sent from the mobile device from a desktop).
Outlook 2K3 on the desktop has the same issue btw, but at least that supports rules so you can put it right.
Billy wrote pocket outlook for connecting to an exchange server, which, I suspect only 50% of the devices purchaced will ever do. Pocket Oulook *always* starts pointing at the exchange folder structure, not your POP3/IMAP account, and there is no way to config this. Unessesary taps required. Why can I not DELETE the default exchange folders if I dont need them?
There are a load more issues as well... I currently do around 10 soft resets/day. My basis is that a wait of more than 10 secs means that the device has crashed. Perhaps if I was willing to wait 5 mins all the time for it to get its arse into gear then the number of soft resets could be reduced!
I shall have to create me a site with XDA IIs bugs on it. I suspect that most of these issues are also present on other devices using windows mobile 2003 so it aint just gonna be the XDA. MS will likely fix them, and then O2 will take years to make the fixes available to its customers.
To be honest, I wish I had stuck with a symbian based device.
Has *anyone* managed to get a IPSEC/PPTP VPN connection running either via wifi or GPRS???
Has anyone managed to get skype PPC working **reliably** Mine works OK if I sit next to the AP, but I might as well use the PC version if I have to do that. Moving further away causes skype to give up due to lack of bandwidth. WiFi also locks (no network access period) even though the PPC still indicates that it has a single from the AP. The only fix for this is yet another soft reset.
Some other stuff:
Refuses to connect to a network that is not broadcasting the SSID. In general, when you want to add a new box, you can set AP to broadcast SSID, it will then find the network, after it has connected, you can hide the SSID. For future connections from 'pre-registered' boxes, no SSID is required. Not so for the XDA IIs, refuses to connect to a base station that is not broadcasting an SSID, or in some cases, creates a new connection with the name "" (i.e nothing) (which again refuses to connect).
Right, now, if you have 2 wifi networks listed in PPC settings, it will sometimes sit there for ever failing to connect, do a soft reset and it connects.
Another one: you have two connections in the 'configure wireless networks' dialogue, one is 'connecting' other is 'unavailable'. The one that is connecting is obviously not gonna connect despite 100% correct settings, so I select 'remove' it does not dissapear!!!
If I had written this software, the user would see a dialogue box thus 'This network is connecting/connected, are you sure you wish to remove its settings?' Selecting yes, would either terminate the connection attempt, or terminate the connection and then remove the damned setting with no further agro!
In network settings, I often get some *stupid* status info. It sometimes says that my home network is 'available' when I am at work. Clearly it isn't, wifi does not travel 10 miles!
And some more:
Sometimes bluetooth fails to start complaining about insufficient driver space. I write windows KMD's all the time, I suspect its somet daft like a lack of available stack space, or stack recursion. Soft reset cures
Also, sometimes when I try to start bluetooth, I get a daft message saying that the licence for the bluetooth stack has expired!!! It then starts BT and all is OK.
All pretty in-excusable bugs for post beta software. This is MS's 4th attempt now at a mobile operating system and its still a bag of sh1te!
A PDA is supposed to be a productivity tool, not something that you have to put 4 hours into to save yourself an hour. When I pull the damned thing out I want it to do **exactly** what it says on the box.
Bugs in software are inevitable, but this just was not even tested - there are *obvious* bugs that should have been detected in QA and delayed the relrease date. I suspect most users will trip over these issues in the first few hours of use. The workaround for most is a soft reset - the blooming reset switch will be worn out in a week!
My advice: AVOID until they fix some of the bugs. Does O2/MS have a route for bug submissions? I'll write these up as formal bug reports with reproducers and send them off.
If it were not for the appeal of skype/skypeout (only with 10 metres of base station otherwise wifi dies, reset required!) then it would have gone back by now. Not of merchantisable quality imho.
I write C/CPP/Java software for a living, if I let something this bad out the door I'd loose my damned job!
And some more:
- If you reconfig your shortcuts (so you can find stuff!) Then the applets 'camera' and 'O2' always seem to copy themselves back out into the root of StartMenu-->Programs again.
Go into the find applet and get it to do a search that takes some time. Wait for it to get going and then click stop. PDA hangs. It does come back eventually (2-3 mins later), but remains sluggish until you do a soft reset. Trying to suspend while its hung just switches the backlight off!
Wish there was some kind of formal bug raising email address or somet.
Nigel
Agree with you
Got the Orange m2000 variant and have same issues!
wifi has week signal (got 3 overlapping base stations in one open plan office) and can only get 25% signal.
can get vpn connection to work but after a few mins gets bored and drops!
phone reception is poor
bluetooth keeps crashing
going to send back to orange and get a new nokia 6230 and dell pda. cant rely on phone which crashes 10 times a day
Richard
how did you get the VPN to connect at all??
My WiFi connection is marked as 'connects to work' which means that the VPN profiles setup under 'work' should be offered to me. I would expect that after I have wifi up and running, clicking the icon at the top would show:
'Work - Wifi'
Unfortunately, it refuses to show anything other than 'The Internet - Wifi'. If I could get it to connect to wifi using the 'work' profile then perhaps it would show me by VPN connections underneath so that I could connect these too, but it **refuses** to do so.
BBB
(BuggedBeyondBelief)
Nigel
More issues
Hi
I have been adding new bugs to my original post as I find them. Here's a couple more:
Sometimes (no real causer for this) When the WLan auto disables its self (set to 5 mins), I will head into the Wireless Lan manager, tick the 'Wireless lan ON' box and click OK.
It still stays disabled!!!
I then head back into the wireless Lan manager, and find that my tick did not stick, same result if I try again. The only way to get the Wlan back is to restart the damned thing.
Additionally, if I go into tools-->network cards from the wireless lan manager, it says that the Wlan is 'connected' it IS NOT connected!!!
This problem shows its self more when the 'Wireless lan Manager-->Settings Tab-->Auto Turn off WLAN if not connected' option is ticked but it will also do it without this.
Seems to be partially caused by poor wifi signal and having previously run an app that hammered the network.
Sack of [email protected]!
Nigel
u seem to be having a mare!
I've no probs with WiFi at all, none of the issues U raise have occurred, WiFi works fine all over my house (I'm tapping this in upstairs & my router is downstairs) & I've got the settings set for best battery life rather than strongest signal. In the hotels I've stayed in recently I've also had faultless WiFi!
A couple of the users @ work have had trouble wiv GPRS overriding WiFi but I put this down to TNBTK!!
I've also seen the lost modem settings problem(also cured by soft reset).
Bluetooth performance has been a touch hit & miss but fiddling in the advanced settings seem to help!!
I've not tried VPN as I'm actively moving us away from this @ work towas web based services. Just a thought though, isn't "connecting to the internet" what you'd expect to see? surely you are using an internet gateway to VPN onto your network?
One other issue I've had is a logon problem with MS sharepoint, I'm hoping to cure that next week by playing about with authentication on the server.
I'v got a route in to some technical contacts at O2 so I'll ask bout the bug reporting for U tomorrow.
Hi
Aye, fun and games at the moment, just like my hardware to do what it says on the box!
Have you tried Skype? I have a feeling that you too will suffer the wifi lock-up problems if you give skype a go at the extreme of your wifi reception. I dont think its skype's fault though, but rather just the XDA not liking what skype gets up to! I am not gonna complain if it drops the wifi connection, its the lock-up that requires the reboot that winds me up.
Most of the time, my wifi is OK as well. Many of the problems I have had are related to use of skype, and having setup the auto-off wifi setting (which is now off again).
You have an XDA IIs? Perhaps mine has old firmware? I certainly dont believe that this is hardware related. I intend to come up with some repeaters for the problems I have, at the moment, they just occur 'when they feel like it'.
>A couple of the users @ work have had trouble wiv GPRS overriding WiFi >but I put this down to TNBTK!!
I have had this with bluetooth, but not with wifi. I think this connection occurs while on bluetooth when using ports that are not passed by default by ICS on the windows host box.
>I've also seen the lost modem settings problem(also cured by soft >reset).
This one really winds me up cause there is no way such a bug should have got past QA.
>Bluetooth performance has been a touch hit & miss but fiddling in the >advanced settings seem to help!!
Apart from the stupid messages about kernel space when trying to start BT, and the daft popup box saying that the BT stack license has expired, the BT on the XDA IIs is one of the more stable implementations that I have seen. You would think that since BT is now around 5 years old, it would be 100% stable these days.
>I've not tried VPN as I'm actively moving us away from this @ work >towas web based services. Just a thought though, isn't "connecting to >the internet" what you'd expect to see? surely you are using an internet >gateway to VPN onto your network?
It seems that there are two main connection methods in PPC, work, and Internet. The Proxy and VPN settings are not available when connected using a profile that is associated with 'internet' they are only available when connected through a 'work' profile. Again, the documentation is very lacking in the manual. O2's idea of a 'work' connection is WAP to O2 active!! A 'work' connection can be made to allow internet connections by checking the checkbox under proxy servers.
The various guides that I have found all suggest using the same profile for 'work' and 'internet', and setting the checkbox under proxies to allow internet access.
The layout of the whole connections applet in PPC is just a mess - completely unintuative!
Anyway, whatever the correct method, I've tried the lot and cant get the VPN to connect!!
>I'v got a route in to some technical contacts at O2 so I'll ask bout the >bug reporting for U tomorrow.
Cheers!
Nigel
Just got a reply from O2 About Above Bugs!
Hi
Ammused the hell out of me since its obviously a standard reply! There are not hardware problems, they are software problems so exchanging the hardware when the software remains the same aint gonna help!!
Nutters....!
I like the unit, I dont want to return it, I just want then to be aware of, and then fix the bugs and release new firmware promptly. O2's idea, is that if user sends in a bug report that refers to the *software* the unit runs, offer said user a new unit with same software - must cost them a bl00dy fortune!!
See O2's reply below:
Dear Nigel,
Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience that may have
been caused by this matter and thank you for your patience.
I am sorry to know your handset has become faulty within 14 days of
purchase. However, we if you wish to get a new phone, please return your
faulty phone in it`s original packaging using the returns label
provided. If you do not have the original packaging please reply to this email
and I will arrange for a jiffy bag to be sent out to you. Returning
your order is free as the postage is prepaid, however can I ask you
obtain proof of postage as this will assist us greatly in the unlikely event
that your order does not reach our warehouse.
Any money you have paid for your order will be refunded once we have
received your order, however this process may take upto 21 working days.
After this you can order a new phone. There are two ways to order a
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Isn't it time to see what you can do with O2.
However, you can also visit your nearest O2 store to get your phone
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dont seems to have the problems you have stated additional i have very good signals over the macdonalds.... (a free wifi service for now) in Singapore and tried with hotels wifi do not seem to have any problems... even installed WiFiForum a Wifi sniffer compitable with IIs and seriously speaking... after installing the WiFiForum i seem to have better phone signals... the best sniffer ever.... For VPN never tried... note: i have pocket skype and it works flawless.... dont get the "locked to network" problem
problems?
sounds like a bad unit. I'm new at this and am really wanting the blue angel early next year but reading a lot of bad press. I still have my sharp gx 1 and am looking for a good upgrade, the blue angel seems to have just the features I want...but so many bugs I'm seeing. from yellow tinged screens to connection and software problems. Thing is...is it a new product issue, or a design issue in general, and does anyone know when these bugs will be fixed? I really don't want to jump and buy one on contract and then have problems...don't know what to do. suggestions?
wifi signal
If you will take down the wifi speed of the access point from mixed a + b to just a, it will improve the signal for the XDA and the coverge will be stronger.
Very very few AP's have A and B. A works on 5.4GHz. B and G is the usual combination since they are both on 2.4GHz. I get no increases in performance by switching my AP to B only, and besides, doing such a thing means that access via my laptop gets well slow!
Modern devices should be able to work with multimode AP's with zero issues. Unfortunately, it seems that not one manufacturer of WiFi gear can read, they all interpret the standards as they see fit (I believe on purpose) thus locking you into their AP and their client side cards if you want a reliable network. WiFi has been around for eons, it should work by now, its hardly rocket science.
And as for the abortion that is bluetooth....!
Nigel
Nigel,
Don't know if this is going to be useful or not - but I've managed to get VPN working on the IIs after reflashing with the newer i-mate ROM.
O2 seem to do some wacky setup that defines your 'work' connection as a connection to their O2 Active WAP service - this seems to screw up VPN connections somehow.
Anyway, it's pretty easy to setup once you start with a clean-ish ROM - but if you have problems/questions let me know.
Also, with regards to wifi - does you unit get a better signal when docked/connected to the mains? I'm not quite sure that the power-saving options are being implemented properly on the IIs's...
Chris.
Okay got bored reading your essay but that bit about the network cards dissapearing when u added a new connection is true! I could only get it to show once I hard reseted and also it used to turn on for a short while when I turned wifi on.... on the Wi fi strength meter I believe its a graphical fault rather than a strength problem also the strength will be affected by other thins i.e. more than one person using the wifi point. I have sent my XDA IIs back to my company in detest about the dissapearing network cards! and I got told in anouther post bluetooth is shot! and an update while be made (Cause i can't connect or see virtually any blutooth devices in range when my mates phone detects 20+) Oh and anouther thing about Wi Fi Strength... Your phone is small and theres less power so naturally u will not be able to pick up as strong as a laptop will in regards to the signal thats why they say blutooth only extends upto 10 meters on mobiles but upto 100 meters on a PC thats deliberate due to power consumption and stuff
Check out this wifi scanner it finds hotspots really quick and shows the signal strength and stuff I use it but be sure to EXit from it before using wi-fi as for sum reason it stops u using wifi untill u exit.. its still a quality tool tho and its freeware! I picked up sumones wifi router in there home (it was 3 floors up) from nearly 150 houses away!!!! Naturally i couldnt connect tho
Click here to download it I found 16 Wifi Points in my local ASDA! and 20 from work to home (1 mile)
XDA VPN woes
Chriscole
I'm a newbie and piloting the xda IIs for the bosses so forgive my naivety. I have had no joy with the VPN setup to connect to the email servers because like you, the wap gprs keeps getting in the way. i am at a loss how to get the VPN setup tp connect using the mobile gprs instaed. Anychance you could post the steps you applied to get this feature to work for others benefit? Also wher can i get i-mate Rom.
Answer gratefully anticipated.
olori :?
I'm a newbie here and after playing one of the games on my xda IIs it freezes and i have to do a soft reset. I've only had it 4 days not sure i want to try anything else on it
VPN and GPRS
Just a thought. I've tried several times over the last couple of years on several platforms to get a VPN connection over GPRS on O2 and I've always failed. Could it be that O2 block the socket on mobile.o2.co.uk? What I'm trying to point out is that this is not an XDA specific problem. I've tried using a laptop, a Clie PEG UX 50, and iPaq 5450 and an old palm VX over time and I've always failed.
I would definately recommend updating to the latest O2 ROM ...... BUT ...... make sure you use corporate mode (code 0506) so that the rubbish O2 software doesn't get installed.
Still testing but it seems far more stable.
bugs
Is there any way to take the o2 stuff off after the new ROM has been installed?
If you don't mind reinstalling any additional software/ringtones etc then you could just do a hard reset to get onto corporate.
Otherwise a search on this forum should reveal how to edit the registry so that the O2 rubbish doesn't load on startup.
Hi all,
I was just wondering why sometimes my signal and WiFi bars turn grey and often can't make/send calls/data. I thought no signal or WiFi was indicated differently, especially since I can get full grey bars I doubt it's a signal problem.
I've attached a screenshot to show what I mean
cmonthegas said:
Hi all,
I was just wondering why sometimes my signal and WiFi bars turn grey and often can't make/send calls/data. I thought no signal or WiFi was indicated differently, especially since I can get full grey bars I doubt it's a signal problem.
I've attached a screenshot to show what I mean
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it means that you are not logged into google services.
and since most of the apps run with google services (stock browser as well), if you are not logged in, they will not response and keep trying.
if somehow u have other browser like dolphin, or firefox, it should still work.
qwerp_ said:
it means that you are not logged into google services.
and since most of the apps run with google services (stock browser as well), if you are not logged in, they will not response and keep trying.
if somehow u have other browser like dolphin, or firefox, it should still work.
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Thanks. Is there anyway you can force it to reconnect? It seems to be happening more and more lately
There isn't a lot you can do if the phone is stock. You can pull the battery often to see if that helps, check your' network settings and make sure that it is all set correctly. Finally master reset and re-log into your' gmail account.
Other option is to unlock the bootloader and root the device:
If you go the unlock/root route I would recommend flashing a custom radio.img file such http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
If you need instructions on how to go the root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413
In an emergency to un-root the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366806
Hope this helps.
Justin
JTECJ said:
There isn't a lot you can do if the phone is stock. You can pull the battery often to see if that helps, check your' network settings and make sure that it is all set correctly. Finally master reset and re-log into your' gmail account.
Other option is to unlock the bootloader and root the device:
If you go the unlock/root route I would recommend flashing a custom radio.img file such http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
If you need instructions on how to go the root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413
In an emergency to un-root the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366806
Hope this helps.
Justin
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I'm already rooted and running the XXIK6 radio. I'll try logging out and back in to see if that helps. Thanks
This happened to me the other day, was so annoying!
Although the blue bars do show whether it's connected to Google services etc, there must be more to it as I couldn't make any calls or anything like that. I went in and out of airplane mode, restarted the phone etc but nothing helped, so I just assumed it was something to do with my network and left it for a while and it sorted itself out in the end.
I have the stock phone. I forced it to see the network by going to Settings, Wireless & Networks, More, Mobile Networks, Network operators. This will force a scan to see what networks are available. Pick AT&T (assuming that who your provider), and it should turn on the Cell Service.
If it does not work, try going to an AT&T owned store and ask for a new Sim Card. (That is what I had to do.) They put it in with no questions, except for marveling at my wonderful SGN. No plan or feature changes happened.
For the Wifi, that is different. Go to Settings, Wireless & Networks, Wifi (and turn it on). You can re-scan for networks anytime. I had 11 networks in range, so it took some looking to find mine. You may need to re-enter the security settings several times to get it right. (Delete old settings by using "forget" below the network you select.) Once it works, it should keep on working with no further adjustments, at least mine does that.
When signals are seen, the grey icons will show blue as a signal strength. (I'm not sure they are accurate.)
Good luck.
All extremely overkill methods...
I used to get this sometimes on all of my Android devices. Simple way to sort it out and sign back in? Your data/wifi is still active - just open Google Talk, go to the list of contacts on it (not in a message, as in you've just signed in) and it'll connect and sync itself straight away... 10 second job, no need to pull out a battery, flash random things, or anything else.
^ this. I just was going to write the exact same thing. Just open up gtalk and you are golden.
El Daddy said:
^ this. I just was going to write the exact same thing. Just open up gtalk and you are golden.
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Here! Here!
I was pretty shocked to see the suggested methods previous to Gtalk...
If anyone else knows a better way, please share!
Best method is to sort through the code and fix the problem, unless you are all on at&t (which you're not) which would suggest a network issue. However, I have used nearly every android device available...even a few I'm not very proud of. I have never had this issue. My point is Google talk may work and be helpful, but its not a solution/fix.
Justin
It's happened to me a couple of times so clearly not just AT & T nor even just the USA. I waited it out, next time I'll try the Google talk method (not sure if it'll work, Google Voice not currently available in Aus.
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It's happened to me a couple of times so clearly not just AT & T nor even just the USA. I waited it out, next time I'll try the Google talk method (not sure if it'll work, Google Voice not currently available in Aus.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm on O2 in the UK, so it isn't just a States issue as Clancy is experiencing it in Australia too.
I've narrowed it down today though. I've noticed that I only get grey bars when connected to WiFi, and sometimes even then I can't make/receive calls. Pretty much as soon as I disconnect the WiFi and get connected to the mobile network I get reconnected to Google's servers and the bars turn blue again. Weird.
Hey,
Got my One X yesterday and so far it's been really amazing. There are two issues that are getting increasing annoying though. I am based in Hong Kong, my oneX is running the latest available software 1.29.708.9
(1) I mostly use the university on-campus 802.11x network. After using Google Maps for around 20seconds, it remains connected to the network but I am no longer able to use the Internet. I need to manually restart the Wifi (On/Off) in order to be able to use it again. It does not happen usually with any other software, youtube HD vids as well as heavy-content webpages both work like a charm.
Moreover, after not having used the phone for an hour or so, the phone appears to have the same symptoms, ie. remains connected to the network but I have to restart the wifi manually in order to use it. It is quite a big deal as I have to restart the network every now and then to make sure I dont have any new emails/ whatsapp msgs.
I did some reading and people here seem to have been able to solve the problem by changing to band to 2.4Ghz as opposed to the 5Ghz freq. I could not locate that option anywhere though. Is it available in the stock HTC ROM?
Any solutions?
(2) The 3-dot bottom menu in non-ICS apps (especially games) is extremely annoying. I dont mind exchanging the recent apps button for the settings button so that I can get rid of the black bar. I found this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582506 but the problem is I am running a 1.29.708.9 version . Is it going to be compatible with that mod? Can I basically install it over my current stock ROM once I root the phone?
Most of the custom ROMs available are based on the x.xx.401.xx version. Can I still install and use these ROMs without any issues?
Cheers!
silt1 said:
Hey,
Got my One X yesterday and so far it's been really amazing. There are two issues that are getting increasing annoying though. I am based in Hong Kong, my oneX is running the latest available software 1.29.708.9
(1) I mostly use the university on-campus 802.11x network. After using Google Maps for around 20seconds, it remains connected to the network but I am no longer able to use the Internet. I need to manually restart the Wifi (On/Off) in order to be able to use it again. It does not happen usually with any other software, youtube HD vids as well as heavy-content webpages both work like a charm.
Moreover, after not having used the phone for an hour or so, the phone appears to have the same symptoms, ie. remains connected to the network but I have to restart the wifi manually in order to use it. It is quite a big deal as I have to restart the network every now and then to make sure I dont have any new emails/ whatsapp msgs.
I did some reading and people here seem to have been able to solve the problem by changing to band to 2.4Ghz as opposed to the 5Ghz freq. I could not locate that option anywhere though. Is it available in the stock HTC ROM?
Any solutions?
(2) The 3-dot bottom menu in non-ICS apps (especially games) is extremely annoying. I dont mind exchanging the recent apps button for the settings button so that I can get rid of the black bar. I found this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582506 but the problem is I am running a 1.29.708.9 version . Is it going to be compatible with that mod? Can I basically install it over my current stock ROM once I root the phone?
Most of the custom ROMs available are based on the x.xx.401.xx version. Can I still install and use these ROMs without any issues?
Cheers!
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1. I think they are talking about changing band from 2.4Ghz to 5Ghz freq on the WiFi Router NOT on your phone.
BUT you can download/install an app from Play store named "Power Saver Settings" and uncheck "Put data connection to sleep" option
2. AFAIK you can install custom ROMs with no problems. BUT check with the ROM developer prior to installing. You are solely responsible if anything goes wrong...am sure you are aware of that.
Hope this helps. Cheers
Hi,
when my HOX is lying near by PC Speakers, i can hear Internet Traffic over EDGE/UMTS excatly all 3 Minutes. (I hope u can understand what i mean)
I´m wondering about that bescause WIFI is active and connected, and i never had this with my DHD.
Due to optimizing Battery life, i disable mobile Network manually when i´m at home and have WIFI connected.
I use ARHD 9.1.0 with stock Kernel and EQS + APM + %Batterycircle + Autobrighness by jotha.
Baseband: 2.1204.135.20
Build; 2.17.401.2 CL89015
Any Ideas whats generating this traffic and why the HOX don´t use WIFI for that?
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
lawrence750 said:
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
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Thanks for your Answer, but i don´t hear that Traffic if mobile Network is disabled, so i thinkt it can´t be "normal GSM Traffic".
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
lawrence750 said:
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
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Thanks again, tested, but unfortunately the traffic is still there
try download osmonitor, might be other apps more specific that can help, but osmonitor should do the trick i hope.
set your screen not to turn off, just for ease..
goto the connections tab, process tab will also be useful and watch it until the noise happens. you're looking for either a process, that jumps to the top of the list when the sound happens (spike in cpu usage), and then does it every time the sound happens, or a connection, that ISN'T your local or external wifi ip address, but also has similar behaviour, ie the connection is created when the sound occurs, and is then gone a minute later.. (the connection should show an app name)
if you find an app that looks like it could be causing it, then try to uninstall it temporarily to see if it fixes the issue. if it does fix the problem, the next step would be to contact the developer of that app to request a fix for it. it could however be a system process causing the problem.
failing the above, you could try the same sort of diagnostics, but with logcat instead. i don't actually know how to initiate logcat, i'm sure a google will tell you how though.
Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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This is crazy - when the screen is on, the sound isnt audible. It only happens when the screen is off.
In the Connections Tab is only one Connection without my WiFi-IP, and whois shows me its a DNS Server from my Carrier (vodafone).
In the Process Tab i can see that "System" comes up on Top for ca 2 seconds, further no action.
The 2 Connections which stays established:
Clearing the Donwloadmanager Data was a Success... Thanx again.
The Connection to Google from "Google Bookmark-Sync" is still there. Gmail Sync is deactivated in accounts.
I think i´ll give it up and live with it
Hello,
A few days ago I started receiving a notification saying "Sign in to network" and below that the name of my carrier (see the screenshot). When I click on the notification, the browser opens up but does not load any page and just stays blank. At that time the notification disappears but then appears again after a while.
Has anyone seen this and do you know why it may be appearing? I am fully stock on 4.2 and unrooted.
Thanks!
Does nobody know?
Hi,
Same problem here (with Mtel network operator),
After updating to 4.2.1 the problem still persists. After I click on the notification it asks me to open in a browser and then opens this address for a second 173.194.70.101/generate_204 , and turns into blank page.
I think that when I walk away from one network cell to a another it asks me to sign into the new cell, but I am not really sure..
I`ll keep posting if I find the solution..
Not sure if there is any difference for GSM variants of Gnex, but have you tried updating your PRL & Profile?
(Settings>About Phone>MTel? system updates)
Sometimes after a flash/upgrade until I update my Sprint profile, service seems spottier. Only other thing I can think is that your phone somehow is no longer provisioned with your carrier, shouldn't be the case (I think) when dealing with GSM carriers since your SIM what provisions the phone, but maybe poke around settings to see if there is some sort of self-provisioning option, or call M-tel.
Check your APNs. You might need new/corrected APN settings or something. That usually shows up when you're on a network (usually WiFi) that needs a user/password or accept a disclaimer to get through to the internet.
However on a mobile network the APN should serve as the connection settings and the SIM serves as authentication to the network. Normally you wouldn't be able to connect to mobile internet. Does MMS work?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Hey, guys, thanks for your input. Actually, since yesterday I stopped receiving this notification all of a sudden. I have not done anything in the mean time, so I guess it was something on the carrier's end that got resolved or something.
wyvorn said:
Hey, guys, thanks for your input. Actually, since yesterday I stopped receiving this notification all of a sudden. I have not done anything in the mean time, so I guess it was something on the carrier's end that got resolved or something.
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I'm also facing the same problem. I'm on Vodafone Portugal and occasionally I'm with full network signal but I don't have internet. When I check the notification bar I have that same message and if I click it, it opens the same "empty" web page.
I'm running stock 4.2.1 yakju.
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I'm also facing the same problem. I'm on Vodafone Portugal and occasionally I'm with full network signal but I don't have internet. When I check the notification bar I have that same message and if I click it, it opens the same "empty" web page.
I'm running stock 4.2.1 yakju.
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Hi there. Since this issue disappeared for me without any action on my end, I am assuming that it is related to something on the carrier's end. It may be worth contacting your carrier's support?
im facing into the same issue too.. but still not solved till now..
its not apn related problems for me..
Have the same problem Here
Hey guys, i just have the same problem here.
It has been 10days till now
currently using galaxy s4, android 4.2.2, from Indonesia (carrier's : XL Axiata)
Does anyone know how to fix this problem ??
It will very helpful to me, cause i'm very annoyed of this notification
this notification (Sign into Network) pop up nearly 10 times a day.
I have several times contacted the carrier (XL) and the samsung centre too, but both didn't know what is the problem.
Thank you.
ShinigamiDestiny said:
Hey guys, i just have the same problem here.
It has been 10days till now
currently using galaxy s4, android 4.2.2, from Indonesia (carrier's : XL Axiata)
Does anyone know how to fix this problem ??
It will very helpful to me, cause i'm very annoyed of this notification
this notification (Sign into Network) pop up nearly 10 times a day.
I have several times contacted the carrier (XL) and the samsung centre too, but both didn't know what is the problem.
Thank you.
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Hi there. By trial and error i found out that this icon starts appearing when the carrier throttles your internet speed. For example, I have unlimited internet traffic but when I reach 512 MB of traffic, the internet speed is lowered to 128 kbps. This is when the icon starts appearing for me. I also found out that if you dismiss it, it will appear again if you change connections (e.g. go from wifi to mobile). I find this behaviour annoying but I found no way to prevent it, as it seems to be something on the carrier's side.
I have the same problem only on my android phone (4.2.2) Samsung Galaxy S3 when I am at my home WIFI..
Could it be a virus. only diffference is the IP.. my browser tries to load this: 173.194.35.99/generate_204
i've blocked this IP. I can't even access play store now! rest all things work
hdaackda said:
I have the same problem only on my android phone (4.2.2) Samsung Galaxy S3 when I am at my home WIFI..
Could it be a virus. only diffference is the IP.. my browser tries to load this: 173.194.35.99/generate_204
i've blocked this IP. I can't even access play store now! rest all things work
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i dnt think its caused by virus. Try check ur apn setting. Or reformat ur phone.
When you connect a mobile device with Google Play via WiFi, I have found that I must allow ssl traffic via port 5228. This connection I think is an authorization service deployed by Google. If you trust it or not, when you block outbound port 5228 (or if you block Googles' ip's) you will see the "sign into network" This is because Google Play assumes (poorly) you are connected to a WiFi network which requires a captive portal login (ie Hotel WiFi sign-in page). I am no dev but I believe the "generate_204" thing just forces the mobile browser to open a new tab so the login page will appear. It's not spooky just annoying.
Why did Google choose to deploy ssl over port 5228 and not the standard 443? Not sure, but it might lead to your Firewall's security policy blocking it as it did for mine.
I started getting the same notification on my nexus 5 recently. I had reached my data fair usage allowance and so it started appearing. I noticed that in the data usage setting the warning bar was set to my fair usage limit so I just raised the bar and hey presto no more warnings. Based on this I reckon when your data usage cycle resets each month you'll see the warning disappear until you hit your limit again.
Just done a quick test by dropping the data usage bar back to where it originally was, turned off WiFi and started browsing the web. The warning appeared again.
hdaackda said:
I have the same problem only on my android phone (4.2.2) Samsung Galaxy S3 when I am at my home WIFI..
Could it be a virus. only diffference is the IP.. my browser tries to load this: 173.194.35.99/generate_204
i've blocked this IP. I can't even access play store now! rest all things work
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i am facing exactly the same issue on my Optimus G... any solution?
Its DNS issue
Hi All,
I have same issue on my Huawei Asend Mate rooted 4.2.2. even i flashed a diffrent ROM on it. problem still presist. but when i change its DNS from 192.168.1.1 to 8.8.8.8. Now its working fine.
fazal.mehmood said:
Hi All,
I have same issue on my Huawei Asend Mate rooted 4.2.2. even i flashed a diffrent ROM on it. problem still presist. but when i change its DNS from 192.168.1.1 to 8.8.8.8. Now its working fine.[/QU
please post your steps in changing the DNS really want data on my lg g flex tmobile im already rooted :cyclops:
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I have had this issue ever since I got this current phone (not a Samsung, but hear me out). From what I can tell, it is because it can not contact someone (probably Google) via cellular network. I also get this when on a WiFi connection with no internet (or very, very slow), further supporting this.
I am in an interesting situation. My carrier only has 1 APN for both MMS and data combined. However, I only get MMS with my plan, not full data. Therefore, I need to keep data enabled in Android to use MMS. Because of this I get this notification ALL THE TIME.
I'm going to try to get a logcat when it happens and see if I can find the exact service and maybe kill it. I'll update if I figure it out.
wyvorn said:
Hello,
A few days ago I started receiving a notification saying "Sign in to network" and below that the name of my carrier (see the screenshot). When I click on the notification, the browser opens up but does not load any page and just stays blank. At that time the notification disappears but then appears again after a while.
Has anyone seen this and do you know why it may be appearing? I am fully stock on 4.2 and unrooted.
Thanks!
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I have the same problem.It make notification at the time u linked to mobile data too, and i can't suffer it any more.So i have searched all internet and have no progress.But i found the way to block its notifications rather than voiding generation.
It's a notification generated from "Android System" and seems like a network-check function. So the problem have the mobile carrier's part(I'm in china, you know). And u can't block all notifications of "Android System" using tools like LBE or Gravitybox or anyothers cause it is useful all the time.
This Xposed Mod can help us: NotifyClean, it is the only tool to block several notifications u want of one app.
Use it in ur rooted system with xposed framework,and open it from xposed. It can log all notifications and u can tick the "Sign in to network"s in "Android System".