i know it's a repeated question but i really want to know the difference btw all backup ways, so i hear about:
-CWM backup
-nandroid backup
-titanium backup
-and i guess that rom manager have a rom backup
can we know what is advantage, disadvantage of each type, and what can one type do the other cant.
and lets say i installed a rom, kernel, root, soff, CWM, apps, settings for apps, widgets and all custom settings, is there a way to backup all of them, so next time i did a factory reset i can get restore by one file restore (used to do that in winmo by one file backup)
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and i still dilemma on whether to flash OpenDesire or the Original rooted froyo....
Need to clear something in my mind for flashing steps;
1)Root my device(DONE!)
2)Backup Nandroid
3)Run Titanium Backup
4)Flash my chosen custom ROM
5)Restore files using Titanium Backup again.
a) thats it right? btw whats with the Radio? do i need it? i see some got with radio and some dont. what is it for and why?
b) and about Titanium backup, i just backup all the stuffs, and restore them all just like that correct?
c) and all my settings/preferences/options for my apps will not be lose right(for example fonts, colours, settings in handcent sms, etc)?
d) and one more thing, all of my purchased apps from Paid market still be useable ? or need to download again?
1)Root my device(DONE!)
2)Run Titanium Backup/backup everything
3)Backup Nandroid
4)Wipe
5)Flash my chosen radio
6)Flash my chosen custom ROM
7)Restore files using Titanium Backup again.
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
Hi I'm new to android and just bought the verizon Galaxy Nexus (came from the iPhone but regretted buying it just months after buying it) and the new terminology is really confusing. Now that I've familiarized myself with most terms, I have a couple questions about performing certain things.
My first question is: When is a nandroid backup needed, why, and how do you perform one?
second question: If I want to flash a custom ROM, what precautions should I take?
Im sorry if any of these questions have been asked but I could not find them anywhere in the development forum.
Nandroid back up is an exact copy of what ever ROM is currently running on your phone. I.e if you are still on stock ROM then you would make a Nandroid and flash back to stock if you had bugs in a custom ROM.
To make a Nandroid you must first Root the device and install ClockWorkMod (CWM), Once installed hold both volume buttons up and down at the same time an power on the device. Then using the volume keys go to Restore mode and hit the power button, Navigate to backups and restore and then hit back up, this will make a Nandroid.
Precautions to flashing a custom ROM - Make a Nandroid of the stock ROM and you can always flash back.
But i didn't understand a thing yet... If I have a Custom ROM and want to go back to the stock one, and i have a nandroid backup of the stock one, first i have to re-flash the stock rom or i can directly restore the nandroid backup when i've still installed the custom rom?
You can directly restore the nandroid backup. It will start you over at stock just how your phone was when you backed it up
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Maybe you should watch a few videos on Youtube to get a bit familiar with Android and a few basics
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Nandroid back up is an exact copy of what ever ROM is currently running on your phone. I.e if you are still on stock ROM then you would make a Nandroid and flash back to stock if you had bugs in a custom ROM.
To make a Nandroid you must first Root the device and install ClockWorkMod (CWM), Once installed hold both volume buttons up and down at the same time an power on the device. Then using the volume keys go to Restore mode and hit the power button, Navigate to backups and restore and then hit back up, this will make a Nandroid.
Precautions to flashing a custom ROM - Make a Nandroid of the stock ROM and you can always flash back.
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Thanks for the very helpful response! Does a nandroid save absolutely everything? If not, what will I have to save manually? If I do a nandroid, is a titanium backup needed? The question above about having to revert back to the ROM before flashing the backup is interesting because I've heard that you must flash back to the previous ROM or you'll end up with a bricked phone...
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Thanks for the very helpful response! Does a nandroid save absolutely everything? If not, what will I have to save manually? If I do a nandroid, is a titanium backup needed? The question above about having to revert back to the ROM before flashing the backup is interesting because I've heard that you must flash back to the previous ROM or you'll end up with a bricked phone...
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Yes indeed a Nandroid back up saves EVERYTHING to do with apps installed + login credentials, widget layouts, notification sounds an lights, Messages, recent calls and so on. It may be a wise move to make a copy of the Internal SDcard which I do just in-case because I'm not sure if the Nandroid backup saves the Internal SDcard as it is a non removable card.
Regarding reflashing - You simply just wipe systme, data, Cache and Davlik Cache and reflash the stock Nandroid over and your device will be back to stock ROM.
The only time I would use Titanium back up is when moving from one ROM to another. Each time you flash a new ROM its basically a fresh install and will not have any of your settings saved i.e Wi-fi passwords, wallpapers, wiget layout, icons and folders, Gmail/facebook/twitter account details. Although Google offer a basic backup for your Apps none of the login credentials will be saved.
I have 2 Nandroid backups - 1 is my stock ROM, the other is my Modaco Custom ROM. Every time I flash some thing new over my Madaco ROM i.e custom Mods like new power menu or new kernel, I make a new Nandroid back up and delete the previous one. That way you will always have an exact copy of the ROM just the way you like it.
Hope this helps
Ah makes sense thank you so much! I get the overall picture but small details such as these are needed! I'm sorry if I'm annoying you with all these questions but I have a couple more: how would I make a copy of my internal sd card? My other question is that will I only need titanium backup if I plan on using more than 2 ROM's? Because I'm still a bit confused about why you would need titanium backup if nandroid does the same thing.. If there is a guide about when to delete the cache or do a wipe and stuff, sending a link or explanation would be much appreciated!
Titanium backup and nandroid
Backing up internal SD card is by simply copy pasting everything on SD to PC, Nandroid backup is complete backup of everything, ie if you restore a nandroid backup you will get everything the same before backing up, but Titanium is backup of apps, messages and call registers or contacts, you cannot restore the apps, messages and contacts from nandroid to New ROM, but you can from Titanium. Just in simple you can make titanium backup in case you want to use new ROM with all apps you previously used or use nandroid if you want just to test a new ROM and revert back to previous,
please hit thanks if it helps you or correct me if I am wrong
Hi all,
About to root and rom for the first time on any phone and I was wondering a few things.
First, after I install clockwork mod recovery, I can make a backup... Does this backup have the ability to restore all of my apps and data after I install a custom rom? Also, does it restore things like homescreen widgets, app settings etc as well?
Secondly, after I install the rom of my choice, how does updating it to a newer version work? Will updating to a newer version wipe my phone completely or is it like receiving a stock ota update in that it doesn't erase anything?
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1) The backups in clockworkmod are of your entire phone. Without a 3rd party app such as titanium you won't be able to restore specific pieces of it. IMO clockworkmod backups are meant to be used to restore your entire phone if something goes wrong. Titanium has a feature where you can restore specific stuff from the backups, but I would recommend creating backups via titanium rather than relying on what was done in clockworkmod. Personally, I backup everything with titanium then do a backup in clockworkmod before I flash a rom. App settings will restore, widgets do but many times you'll have to add them again because they restore with placeholders for whatever reason.
2) Updating a rom is dependent on the specific rom and often the version. Some roms you can just flash over what you're running, sometimes an update will be significant enough to require a wipe. Even if a rom doesn't require a wipe, I'd advise at least doing a backup.
Ok Something was hinky with my device so I had to do what I most assuredly did not want to do. factory reset and reinstall.
I know how to make a backup now from recovery but alas I need to do a wipe and clean install before I can MAKE a usable backup.
so I backup as much as I can. contacts settings for different programs etc..
my BIG pet peeve was my go launcher screens. I HAVE A LOT of stuff I really really really did not want to reinstall and reconfigure.
so I backed up golauncher settings.
I wipe. I reinstall. before I "restore" go launcher settings I first go down my checklist and reinstall all the apps and widgets its going to use BEFORE I restore go launcher.
all installed all working.
I restore go launcher. SPLAT. every single stinking widget is "Problem Loading widget"
they are all their they are all in their proper places but USELESS. all of them (except go launcher calendar) say Problem Loading widget.
I have 12 days left widgets especially I DO NOT WANT TO REINSTALL.
is their anything I can do? how do I fix this?
Sorry to say but reinsyalling the widgets are the only way I have found
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before I wiped it I made an image. I could restore that image. is there a way to properly "backup" the widgets properly so I can "restore" them?
I have all my widgets restored now except my Days left widgets. there are just too many of them and I don't even remember all the dates I had set up I had so many of them.
There could be several ways doing that but nothing is perfect.
Go Launcher backup is not working well.
The most efficient way is 'not doing factory reset'. I'm not doing factory reset at all these days because everything works perfect without factory reset.
(many people says that factory reset is required to properly install ROM. But it's the special case)
If you do not wipe the data during the installation, all app will be there after the installation including go launcher setting and widgets... Just need to change the default launcher from tw to go.
If there is a reason that you need to wipe the data, then before doing it, make the whole application backup using Titanium backup and restore it after flashing the rom. It will store almost everything with some widget links broken. But this is better than nothing...
there was something seriously "wrong" in software on the phone no idea what or how to fix factory wipe appeared to be the only option.
dogg catcher kept "uninstalling" itself and eventually refused to install at all declaring "incompatible"
no idea why worked fine on every other device I tried so "something" was hinky with my device I determined.
I just want to get those days left widgets back and get weatherbug working properly again at 160res.
going to make a backup again wipe restore the old backup and try a titanium backup of go and weatherbug
then wipe restore new image and try the backups from titanium see what happens.
now that I know how to backup from the recovery menu I NEVER plan to do a factory wipe again.
if things go hinky I will have a nice clean backup I can just wipe and restore my backup so everything stays perfect.
VERY annoying.
That's it! Most important thing is making clean backup - nandroid backup of your whole system and titanium backup after applications configured. This will really save your time in the future.
hmm the nandroid backup does NOT backup settings and configuration?
what use is it then? is that not the POINT of a nandroid backup to be a bit for bit backup?
what exactly "IS" a nandroid backup.
Nandroid backup - backup almost everything including the user apps + data.
Because of this, normally nadroid backup size is +- 1GB.
Also, it's hard to keep the history because of size. You may want to keep just few critical nandroid backups.
Titianum backup - There are lots of option to make backup and able to control the versions. So, this method can be used more frequently. For any small changes, I would do the titanium backup rather than nandroid.
ok so what precisely does the nandoird backup "NOT" backup. I assume it does not backup anything on the internal SD (I backed up the whole thing) anything else?
my first nandroid backup was almost 3gb
My plan is to make 2 nandroid backups like I do with imagine my desktops and laptops.
the 1st will be all my settings and all my core applications. I call my "core" backup. its the os settings and the apps I will "ALWAYS" reinstall no matter what.
then I install "other" apps I like and make a new backup this will be the "full" backup.
if I find a new "core" app I like I will wipe the system restore the core backup clean then add the new "core app" then make a new "core backup"
I was not aware of this backup method before yesterday though hehe
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ok so what precisely does the nandoird backup "NOT" backup. I assume it does not backup anything on the internal SD (I backed up the whole thing) anything else?
my first nandroid backup was almost 3gb
My plan is to make 2 nandroid backups like I do with imagine my desktops and laptops.
the 1st will be all my settings and all my core applications. I call my "core" backup. its the os settings and the apps I will "ALWAYS" reinstall no matter what.
then I install "other" apps I like and make a new backup this will be the "full" backup.
if I find a new "core" app I like I will wipe the system restore the core backup clean then add the new "core app" then make a new "core backup"
I was not aware of this backup method before yesterday though hehe
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No no no!
Basically nandroid backup has almost everything (rom, kernel, modem) + system configuration data + all installed user apps + user configuration data.
So, if your system or app is not normal, and if it's really hard to go back to previous status, then you can simply restore your system using your nandroid backup. In most case, you don't need to backup the nandroid backup files to your PC or laptop except the data is extremely important.
If you think you have a chance to break your external sdcard or internal sdcard, then you can keep the files in both places. But it isn't necessary in most cases.
After the Nandroid backup, for any small changes or you want to back up the applications, then you can use the Titanium backup to track the application changes.
When I started learning the android, I thought the same way you mentioned above, but I don't think it's necessary. We are getting new builds almost every week or day. So, at least you want to stay with your current rom forever, you don't need lots of backups. About a week later, your old backups would be in garbage can.
Make it simple! And you will be happy.
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Here is what I usually do
1. Make full nandroid backup of my current phone before I upgrade the rom or make major changes
2. Change the system or Flash the rom
3. Confirm the changes or make the basic tuning on the rom
4. If everything is fine then make another nondorid backup, if somethis is wrong, then restore the system using nandroid backup in step 1. Follow the steps again.
5. Install Apps, configure the apps and frequently backup the apps using titanium backup
6. If some apps is not working well, or you deleted necessary app, then recover the app (and/or data) thru tb
7. verify if everything is fine, then make full Titanium backup
8.use your phone. If you believe your phone is stable, then make another Nandroid backup.
9. Keep the nandroid backups in step 1 and 9.
So, combination between nandroid and TB is really useful and if you use it properly, it will save lots of your time.
sure but once I get a rom I really like I don't change it unless there is cause to change it.
also my "core apps" don't change and anything else I install I could care less if I lose it. if its important I make a new core backup.
what I do NOT want to do is spend literally "HOURS" getting all my settings widgets tweaks and logins all set up again.
I am on over 4 hours now trying to get my SII back to the way it was STILL not quite their yet.
still can't get my damned days left widgets to restore (there is 12 of them) I really do not want to do that over again.
and still can't get weather bug working right for some reason.
if I had one of these backups in place I could have blown the system out and click restore and been done with it.
You should backup using "MyBackup Pro". It backs up everything. Its a lot quicker to restore using it. 5 minutes and your done.
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AFAIK - Nandroid backup doesn't backup modem/kernel...
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AFAIK - Nandroid backup doesn't backup modem/kernel...
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Um, nice resurrection?
And yes, nandroid backs up modem, kernel and rom.
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