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[Q] manual OTA-update on revoked-root-desire

hi,
as far as i found out today it was recommended not to install the OTA-update that has been provided by HTC because I would lose my Root-rights.
Since this is not a problem for me I wanted to install it - but it fails everytime with messages like
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
[...]
Would it make sense to install it maunally? the download over the air was no problem, so i could easily put it into root-folder, rename it and install it manually. but do i have any other negative side effects except losing rootrights?
regards,
andre

Bootloops for one..
The cleaner way to run it, is to run the RUU (Do create a goldcard before you do), then run the OTA as update.zip, as Nature intended..
And why on earth would you need an OTA on a rooted phone. Just get the latest rooted ROM which would be more uptodate..If you just dont want root, do as above..

Well, no in this case it's just run the 2.29.405.2 RUU then you've not got to bother about the OTA!!

First i try to install as "zip from sd" with clockwork. But I become bootlooping phone.
Then I try to install with goldcard. All was ok. But when am try to install an app from market, my phone restarted at the point of installation.
Is any other way to update without RUU with clockwork?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

In a word, no. You can try a hard reset but best way is to flash the RUU. Gold card only needed if you have a branded hendset

droidzone said:
Bootloops for one..
The cleaner way to run it, is to run the RUU (Do create a goldcard before you do), then run the OTA as update.zip, as Nature intended..
And why on earth would you need an OTA on a rooted phone. Just get the latest rooted ROM which would be more uptodate..If you just dont want root, do as above..
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the major disadvantage is loosing all information. or is titanium backup able to restore everything? i don't believe so.
regards,
andre

Titanium works on rooted phones, so you could flash stock, root it and then restore

does someone know why installing this OTA-upgrade is failing with signature-message?

Don't flash it if you're rooted - simple as that!!!

understood that. but i want to get some more infos on that.
beside this, since i have to flash a new rom anyway: which is a very good rom you are using? will everything be restored by titanium backup, or will the screens e.g. not be backuped and restored?

I'm on stock 2.29.405.2 and not rooted. It's a good ROM. You'll need to obviously root your phone again to restore the backup

bad loop... ;-)
get back to official rom with OTA but without restoring the backup... or stay on root... i think i will stay on root now. i will try the update this evening and check for the restore how far it works...
thanks for your effort.

HELP!!!
i tried now several times to install a shipped rom (2.10.405.2, 2.29.405.2), but it is not working! it restarts my desire, and it stays with the black screen and white HTC letters... error 171 is displayed afterwards... how can i resolve it? i tried already to download a rom as zip and tried to install it via unrevokedrecovery 2.5.0.7 via "apply update.zip", but it didn't work as well.
can someone help me???
regards,
andre
edit: after installing htcsync it worked again...

YOU CANNOT DOWNLOAD A STOCK ROM AND FLASH IT VIA CLOCKWORK MOD!!!
How many more time does it have to be said????
If you wanna try flash a custom ROM you don't select 'apply update.zip' - you go to flash ROM from SD card and choose the ROM you want to flash. If you don't know how to use CWM why the hell ahve you rooted?!!?

astrakid said:
HELP!!!
i tried now several times to install a shipped rom (2.10.405.2, 2.29.405.2), but it is not working! it restarts my desire, and it stays with the black screen and white HTC letters... error 171 is displayed afterwards... how can i resolve it? i tried already to download a rom as zip and tried to install it via unrevokedrecovery 2.5.0.7 via "apply update.zip", but it didn't work as well.
can someone help me???
regards,
andre
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I honestly didnt understand what you're trying.
If you want to get the system unrooted, back to stock, then:
Read FAQ 5 and get the PB99IMG.zip
After getting PB99IMG.zip, put it in root of sdcard/goldcard,
Switch Off
Switch on with Back and Power. Keep it pressed.
The system will detect the file and prompt
Press Vol+ to start the RUU
To install a custom rom, "Install zip file" from Clockworkmod.

4. Volume down + power, not back. Back will take you to FASTBOOT

EddyOS said:
4. Volume down + power, not back. Back will take you to FASTBOOT
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You're right..From Fastboot, it's one additional key..

[Q] !!!URGENT!!! Failed Nandroid restore stuck at boot screen!

I may have bricked my phone and it would be nice to know:
First off if I have.
Second Can i fix it, and how?
I installed the cyanogenmod 6.whatever the newest one is which I can't seem to locate right now. An I found that I liked sense quite a bit so I went to restore from a backup of the Fresh v3.etc rom I was running previously. Halfway through the restore, it failed saying that it was "unable to flash the boot image" Now when I try to boot my EVO I get stuck at the white "htcEVO4G" loading screen and I cant get passed it.
I've tried to flash a new rom (multiple times with the same and different roms), wipe and flash a new rom, at some point I guess i deleted my all my nandroid backups except the one of Fresh which continues to fail.
I CAN boot into recovery and access all of those features properly however (if that helps). I am using the ClockWorkMod recovery as well. (Hboot 2.10.0001)
I was thinking that this didn't look too good for me and I couldn't find anything similar on the forums so I decided to ask here.
If I need to supply any more info on the situation please ask but I think I covered all my bases.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Cheers,
IGC_BlasIAN

what version of clockwork did you use

It says v2.5.0.1 in recovery mode, it was whatever is the latest in ROM Manager as I made sure I was up to date before flashing the new ROM (cyanogen).
All of this occurred yesterday (January 14)

Download Calkulin's wipe all zip and flash it from recovery. Then download Fresh Rom and flash it. There should be an option in Clockwork to be able to transfer files to your sdcard. Start new since the nandroid is failing. You are not bricked if you can access hboot and recovery. If my previous suggestion fails download the latest shipped OTA PC36IMG.zip and make sure it is named PC36IMG. Place it on the root of your sdcard and boot into hboot by holding volume down and power at the same time and it should recognize the PC36IMG.zip and automatically load it. Then choose yes when it asks if you want to update by pressing volume up. If your phone reboots during the process let it detect the image again and it will automatically continue the update. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY AT ANY TIME DURING THE UPDATE. This could really get you a brick. Good luck.

[Q] HELP!my evo doesnt Start fully!

i flash CM7 savage rom and gapps and all seems normaly running a great rom but when i turn it off for a bit and then i turn it on...my evo doesnt start fully and its stuck on boot doesnt even let go to the recovery it restarts all over again ...i tried to clear the data or restart the bootloader...and the battery is charge so its not it ...can some one help me with this or any advice what i should do .... ????

Pulling the battery, waiting a couple minutes, and then holding vol+down and power doesn't allow you to access your bootloader?

yes it does but then i try recovery and it doesent work tho.. :/ and i already put the battery out its benn 24 hours like this...

I'm not entirely sure, then. I'm rather new myself, so I'm not too knowledgeable yet. Hopefully someone else with more knowledge will chime in soon.
DirtyShroomz should be perusing these forums right about now... anytime, buddy.

What kernel are you using...had similar problem with sense ROM due to a flashed kernel that didn't play well with custom ROM. You can try to reflash your recovery if you can find a flashable zip of it or a PC36100.IMG of it. Put on root of sdcard and flash PC36100.IMG through bootloader or flash zip through recovery. What does your recovery do when you access it...it wont let you reflash the ROM or what

ianmb said:
What kernel are you using...had similar problem with sense ROM due to a flashed kernel that didn't play well with custom ROM. You can try to reflash your recovery if you can find a flashable zip of it or a PC36100.IMG of it. Put on root of sdcard and flash PC36100.IMG through bootloader or flash zip through recovery. What does your recovery do when you access it...it wont let you reflash the ROM or what
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PC36100.IMG? Don't you mean PC36IMG.zip?
jhonbra said:
yes it does but then i try recovery and it doesent work tho.. :/ and i already put the battery out its benn 24 hours like this...
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Are you using Clockwork or Amon RA?

am using Clockwork tho

it only lets me go to the bootloader but doesent let me use the recovey it takes me back to the bootloader :/

jhonbra said:
i flash CM7 savage rom and gapps and all seems normaly running a great rom but when i turn it off for a bit and then i turn it on...my evo doesnt start fully and its stuck on boot doesnt even let go to the recovery it restarts all over again ...i tried to clear the data or restart the bootloader...and the battery is charge so its not it ...can some one help me with this or any advice what i should do .... ????
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jhonbra said:
yes it does but then i try recovery and it doesent work tho.. :/ and i already put the battery out its benn 24 hours like this...
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Please be a little more specific. When you say 'but then i try recovery, and it doesnt work tho', what doe you mean? Does it hang at the white 'htc evo 4g' screen (splash screen) or does it give you a black screen with a red triangle? When you get to the bootloader, it still shows that you are indeed S-off, correct? What happens when you pull the battery, and try to boot normally? Do you have any success? If so, download ROM manager from the market, and use that to reflash whichever recovery you were using, either clockwork or amon ra ( i suggest amon ra) If you are unable to boot into the rom at all, and you're unable to access your recovery, then the first thing to try is reflashing your recovery, using the bootloader. To do that, download the PC36IMG that I'll attatch. That is Amon Ra recovery, version 2.3. Download the zip file, make 100% sure that it's named exactly PC36IMG (capitals matter), and put it on the main directory of your sd card ( you'll need to either use an sd card adapter, and put it right into your computer, or put the sd card in a different phone to transfer the file) You may be able to access the sd card using hboot usb, I don't recall at the moment. Either way, get the file on your sd card somehow. Make sure it's named right, and not in any folders. Then put the sd card back in your phone, and boot into the bootloader. The bootloader should then scan and find the PC36IMG file, and ask you if you want to update. Select volume up to say yes. Once it's done flashing, from the bootloader, select 'recovery'. You should now boot into Amon Ra recovery. From that point, I'd suggest doing a complete wipe (data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache), and then flashing Calkulin's Format all.zip (i'll attatch it) Once you're done wiping, then reflash the ROM and Gapps. Reboot your device, and you should boot into the ROM. Good luck.
EDIT: I just saw that you were using clockwork before. I don't have a PC36IMG of clockwork, so just use Amon Ra for now. It's a better recovery, but if you must go back to clockwork, once you're phone's back up and running, you can easily use ROM manager to select 'flash clockworkmod recovery' , and that'll get you back on clockwork. just please be sure not to attempt to restore a clockwork backup using Amon Ra. That's a no no. You need to use clockwork to restore a backup that was made by clockwork. Just so ya know.

ok first i flash CM7 savege rom! then i flash the gapps for the cm7 then everything was alright but then i just turn it off and turn it in again and the bootanimation come in stays there doesent go on and restars it self so i pull the battery off and put the bootloader so i can tried recovery but it Doesent let me in to the recovery ...nothing appears it just send me back to the bootloader again ...and YEs it still shows that you are indeed S-off...and no red triangle it just restarts again .. :/ but thanks for the help i gonna try to see if teh PC36IMG file like ur said and try to put it on the Sd card

jhonbra said:
ok first i flash CM7 savege rom! then i flash the gapps for the cm7 then everything was alright but then i just turn it off and turn it in again and the bootanimation come in stays there doesent go on and restars it self so i pull the battery off and put the bootloader so i can tried recovery but it Doesent let me in to the recovery ...nothing appears it just send me back to the bootloader again ...and YEs it still shows that you are indeed S-off...and no red triangle it just restarts again .. :/ but thanks for the help i gonna try to see if teh PC36IMG file like ur said and try to put it on the Sd card
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up, I got the situation now. Yes, flashing the PC36IMG, following my previous instructions will give you a recovery back. Once you get recovery back, you'll be able to wipe everything and flash the rom again, starting over. Recovery is all you need man!

dude tahnk youuu veryyy muchhh mann that works like a charm now can enter to the recovery so i can flash my restore my files thanks man!

jhonbra said:
dude tahnk youuu veryyy muchhh mann that works like a charm now can enter to the recovery so i can flash my restore my files thanks man!
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You're very welcome! I'm glad it worked. Now that you have recovery back, you'll be good to go. Just make sure to do full wipes before flashing roms, and I suggest sticking with Amon Ra instead of clockwork. Once you get the system running again, make a nandroid backup using Amon Ra, and make sure to check the 'wimax' box, to backup your RSA keys (you dont need to backup wimax every time, just be sure to keep a good backup around of it). Then you'll have a solid backup using Amon, because as I said before, as long as you stay with Amon Ra, your previous clockwork backups are useless.

I have a similar issue. EVO bootloops twice and then gets stuck at 4G and stays there. I am able to boot into bootloader. It has
HBOOT 2.02 S-ON.
RADIO-2.15.00.09.01
So far I have tried....
Fastboot USB
RUU 3.30
RUU 3.70
Took the sdcard out and put PC36IMG.ZIP for 3.30 and 3.70. HBOT scans it with the blue bar and does the "checking the zip" and then back to bootloader. Does not give me an option to update. Any suggestions? I need help.

soulassasin187 said:
I have a similar issue. EVO bootloops twice and then gets stuck at 4G and stays there. I am able to boot into bootloader. It has
HBOOT 2.02 S-ON.
RADIO-2.15.00.09.01
So far I have tried....
Fastboot USB
RUU 3.30
RUU 3.70
Took the sdcard out and put PC36IMG.ZIP for 3.30 and 3.70. HBOT scans it with the blue bar and does the "checking the zip" and then back to bootloader. Does not give me an option to update. Any suggestions? I need help.
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Sorry, I didn't see your question before I went to bed last night. So you are trying to flash back to stock? That's your goal. I see you're already S on. So both of the RUU's that you tried failed on you? What happened when you tried to run the RUU, did it give you an error or what? Do you have HTC Sync installed? You only tried putting one PC36IMG on your sd card at a time right? From the way you described it, it kind of looks like you loaded both on the sd card at the same time, but I'm not sure if you can even do that. Anyways, I'd try downloading the PC36IMG from a different source, confirming that you have a good download, and trying again. THe bootloader should scan and ask you to update. The only time I've seen where it doesn't is if the PC36IMG is named incorrectly, if it's in a folder, if the file is corrupt, or if your sd card is corrupt. If you can't get the PC36IMG to work, I'd suggest formatting your sd card (back it up first) then loading just the PC36IMG on there, and try again. Good luck.

Thanks for seeing the question. Tried pretty much everything. I just want it to work thats all. Its never been rooted. Now I tried the RUU for 3.29, 3.30 and 3.70 and they all give me Error 132 Signarure Error. I ran the RUU by putting EVO in Fastboot. I tried formatting the SDCARD and individually putting the PC36IMG. It does loading with the blue bar on the side, then "checking the PC36IMG" and back to HBOOT. Never gives me an option to "volume up" to update. I have done the PC36IMG files on another EVO and they worked fine before. I have tried 2 different SDcards. I got the RUU from shippedroms and also from here on xda. I got all PC36IMG from here. Don't know what else to do.
k2buckley said:
Sorry, I didn't see your question before I went to bed last night. So you are trying to flash back to stock? That's your goal. I see you're already S on. So both of the RUU's that you tried failed on you? What happened when you tried to run the RUU, did it give you an error or what? Do you have HTC Sync installed? You only tried putting one PC36IMG on your sd card at a time right? From the way you described it, it kind of looks like you loaded both on the sd card at the same time, but I'm not sure if you can even do that. Anyways, I'd try downloading the PC36IMG from a different source, confirming that you have a good download, and trying again. THe bootloader should scan and ask you to update. The only time I've seen where it doesn't is if the PC36IMG is named incorrectly, if it's in a folder, if the file is corrupt, or if your sd card is corrupt. If you can't get the PC36IMG to work, I'd suggest formatting your sd card (back it up first) then loading just the PC36IMG on there, and try again. Good luck.
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soulassasin187 said:
Thanks for seeing the question. Tried pretty much everything. I just want it to work thats all. Its never been rooted. Now I tried the RUU for 3.29, 3.30 and 3.70 and they all give me Error 132 Signarure Error. I ran the RUU by putting EVO in Fastboot. I tried formatting the SDCARD and individually putting the PC36IMG. It does loading with the blue bar on the side, then "checking the PC36IMG" and back to HBOOT. Never gives me an option to "volume up" to update. I have done the PC36IMG files on another EVO and they worked fine before. I have tried 2 different SDcards. I got the RUU from shippedroms and also from here on xda. I got all PC36IMG from here. Don't know what else to do.
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So, you've never been rooted before? Everything was just working fine, and then suddenly it won't boot up? Just hangs at the 4g screen? Is that accurate? Were any changes made to your phone before this happened? Any unusual apps you added, changes you made, anything noteable at all? Or just 100% random out of the blue?
So you ran the RUU with the Evo in fastboot, what happened? Did the RUU appear to run successfully, or does it error out? Any info on what happens when you attempt the RUU would be great. Did you try downloading a PC36IMG or RUU from this thread yet? I have never had a problem with one from here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu. Do you know what software version, radio version, and hboot version you currently had on your phone before it started acting up? Was it the most recent OTA, 3.70 software?
There is annother way to try to flash the PC36IMG using fastboot commands, which I've never done, so don't know the instructions off the top of my head. I'll post back when I find how to do that.
Are you sure you're not getting a bad download of the RUU's and PC36IMG? It's odd that your bootloader scans it, but doesn't ask you to update. That could be due to a corrupted file (bad download) Do you have a good internet connection when you're downloading the files?

The phone was never rooted. I bought it from someone. Practically brand new. No damage at all. I downloaded every single RUU and PC36IMG file from the link you mentioned but same thing happens. RUU ERRORS 132 and PC36IMG files scan and check out but no choice to press volume up for update. Hboot is2.02, radio is 2.15, s-on and the software version when I run the RUU says 3.30. I am stuck at this point. I can only get the phone to recognize fastboot. Help.....
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So, you've never been rooted before? Everything was just working fine, and then suddenly it won't boot up? Just hangs at the 4g screen? Is that accurate? Were any changes made to your phone before this happened? Any unusual apps you added, changes you made, anything noteable at all? Or just 100% random out of the blue?
So you ran the RUU with the Evo in fastboot, what happened? Did the RUU appear to run successfully, or does it error out? Any info on what happens when you attempt the RUU would be great. Did you try downloading a PC36IMG or RUU from this thread yet? I have never had a problem with one from here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu. Do you know what software version, radio version, and hboot version you currently had on your phone before it started acting up? Was it the most recent OTA, 3.70 software?
There is annother way to try to flash the PC36IMG using fastboot commands, which I've never done, so don't know the instructions off the top of my head. I'll post back when I find how to do that.
Are you sure you're not getting a bad download of the RUU's and PC36IMG? It's odd that your bootloader scans it, but doesn't ask you to update. That could be due to a corrupted file (bad download) Do you have a good internet connection when you're downloading the files?
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trying to figure out flash recovery?

I am trying to root my EVO. I once had it rooted and unrooted it...i think...with unrEVOked. I wanted to root the phone and install a custom rom again but I cant seem to get it to root.
I have tried unrEVOked(and followed all the easy steps to root on a forum....more then once), and once I got the initial screen were it sais to plug the phone in and make sure it has USBdebugging on, I do just that and nothing happens. so....
I tried to use Simple Root .1. Once again, found a forum on how to root with this program and followed the steps...more then once...and still no luck. With Simple Root I watched a video and in the video the prompt screen said that it was pushing a file to the phone and then it is suppose to go to the HBOOT screen....which does not happen on my phone, it skips that step and tells me to go to step 2, but I haven't completed step 1 yet....
------So that problem might not be a problem. I guess I AM still rooted. HBOOT screen sais S-OFF, but i dont have unrevoked on the phone anymore. I was told in another thread that I am still rooted and i need to find a flash recovery because when i go into recovery from HBOOT sceen it gives me a !red triangle!
So i guess my question is how do I go about getting a flash recovery and what do I have to do to acutally use that recovery instead of the stock recovery??
Also i was thinking about using the ROM "EVO ZONE" Any thoughts on that ROM??
Thanks!
dizl.evo

Im guessing you have the latest OTA? If so, you cannot root.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176695
This is what i have figured out already.....
I also was doing a little poking around and figured out that i did not have a PC36IMG.zip on my SDcard. I just put it on my card and started HBOOT and now it is asking me if i want to start an update....yes or no?

If that is the recovery zip, then yes let it update
We're comin from a pure power source.

ok, after i do that will i still need to flash recover? or will i be able to find the custom rom then??
And does anybody know anything about the EVO Zone rom?
durring the update it has 11 things that it tries to update....all of them seem to update fine with the exception of number 8 and 9. both are labeled "TP". The first one does nothing and the second one sais it is bypassed. I've tried twice and it keeps bypassing. Is that suppose to happen??

BUMP...Does anybody know if there is anything i can do??
Thanks..

You probably ran a PC36IMG of an RUU or something other than a recovery. You can download Amon Ra recovery from my dropbox here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
It's named properly, just delete the other PC36IMG from your SD card and replace it with this one. Run it through the bootloader the same way that you ran the other one. When it finishes, decline the prompt to reboot and select recovery from the list. You should see the white splashscreen then boot into Amon Ra 2.3.
As for the rom, I'm not familiar with it. If I were you, I'd flash a popular rom that you know is reliable. If you use the default Sense launcher, be sure to flash a Sense rom.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

I'll try to break this down for you as easily as possible.
1) s-off allows you to flash a custom recovery for installing roms. It means signature off which is to say you can install roms that have not been signed by HTC. This ability is critical to flashing and you're on the right track if you have it.
2) Currently your phone has no custom recovery on it, that's the red triangle bit. In order to get one on there, search the development section for the Amon_Ra recovery and download the PC36IMG.zip. Copy the zip to the main part of your SD card, then reboot and hold the volume key after the screen goes black. Your bootloader (the screen that tells you s-off or on) will automatically read and try to install the file.
Hit volume up for yes, let it do its thing then volume up again to reboot.
3) Hold volume down while rebooting to get into recovery. From here, go to usb mode. Copy your sdcard contents to your hard drive. Then turn off usb mode, go to wipe, and wipe it all 3 times. Go back to usb mode.
4) copy the Rom you want to flash to the sdcard and turn off usb mode again. Go into flash from zip, find your Rom and tell it to flash. Once this is complete, reboot and enjoy the new Rom.
Hope this helps you out.
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Thanks for all the help, But when I try and click to download Amon it opens up a blank page and nothing happens....
There any way to download the file else where?

I don't have the link on hand but there is an Amon Thread in the Development section,should be able to download it from there.Edit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=amon+ra+recovery here's the link to Amons Thread

blank screen on download
rght clicking and choosing "open in new tab" solved that for me

Umyou r s-off so ur good. Find an amon_RA pc36img n put that on root of sd-card n also whatever rom u wanna flash. Boot to bootloader n yes to update then flash rom.
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[NEED HELP] Hopefully not bricked HTC Incredible with wrong ROM

Guys, please help!! Yesterday I was so hungry for some ice cream sandwich, that I accidentally tried to flash a rom for HTC Incredible S onto my HTC Incredible! Only after the install failed (used Rom Manager, and when it rebooted, it was saying something about missing pb31img.nmh or some weird extension like that) did i realize what i have done. However my phone was pretty much functional at that point. I tried booting into hboot and doing recovery, but whenever i selected any of the hboot options (clear storage, recovery, factory reset), it would just reboot back into hboot. But at this point i was still able to boot into my phone. I tried backing up from saved images using Rom Manager, but when it rebooted, it always gave the pb31img message. Then it just froze. When i pulled the battery and plugged it back in, the phone just got stuck at the HTC Incredible white screen and would not boot. I've been searching the forums long and hard, but it seems all solutions assume i need to be able to boot into the phone, or to be able to simply use hboot to recover. None of these seem to be viable options for me at the moment. Please help with any suggestions as I wanted to wait for the Tegra 3 phones to come out before upgrading!!

fastboot and adb require phone to be able to boot. my phone does not boot into anything besides hboot. and even in hboot, none of the functions work. i was able to format my sd card and copy an img of the proper rom on there, and when i go to hboot->fastboot, it says "loading pb31img.zip" and shows the blue status bar, then says parsing "pb31img.zip" but that takes a second and then it just goes back to the hboot screen without installing anything!! does this mean i'm totally SOL now?

You can use fastboot to flash a stock image. You do not need to be able to boot to use fastboot,fastboot is thru hboot.
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fastboot#Fastboot_Commands
However if you can get into hboot (the screen with the PB31IMG.zip message), then you can just do an ruu thru hboot. It sounds like your missing or have a corrupt boot image. You need to download the PB31IMG.zip ruu file from here (http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22), place it on your sdcard in no folders and then reboot thr phone. Hboot will find the file and prompt you to press vol up to update. Once thats done press vol up to reboot. Your phone should boot now. You will have to reroot if you want.

cmlusco said:
You can use fastboot to flash a stock image. You do not need to be able to boot to use fastboot,fastboot is thru hboot.
However if you can get into hboot (the screen with the PB31IMG.zip message), then you can just do an ruu thru hboot. It sounds like your missing or have a corrupt boot image. You need to download the PB31IMG.zip ruu file from here , place it on your sdcard in no folders and then reboot thr phone. Hboot will find the file and prompt you to press vol up to update. Once thats done press vol up to reboot. Your phone should boot now. You will have to reroot if you want.
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OMG!!! Thank you soooo much! I can't give you enough thanks, you have no idea! I don't know why this one worked and lots of other cwm img files and rom img files didn't though! And i tried using the fastboot command through the terminal from the computer to flash this same RUU file, but it was giving me problems. But when i put it on the sd card, it worked right away. Now i have a phone to wait out for the Tegra 3!

Glad i could help.

Everything I have read so far says NOT to do any of that through a ROM manager. Could that be why his attempts to install a stock recovery failed?

This really helped me in my situation. I think I had an old version of clockworkmod on my Incredible and it wouldn't let me flash things correctly so it got me stuck in a bootloop but than I flashed the Froyo RUU PB31IMG.zip in hboot and it got my phone working again. Now time to re-root. (I chose Froyo because if you want to re-root with gingerbread you have to downgrade to Froyo which is a hassle)

Your device can not really be bricked. Impossible if you know what you are doing . Revert back to old rom after booting into recovery or choose a simpler from.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S

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Now time to re-root. (I chose Froyo because if you want to re-root with gingerbread you have to downgrade to Froyo which is a hassle)
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If you are s-off it does not matter whether you use the froyo or gingerbread ruu. That is the whole point of getting s-off, so that if an ota or anything else for that matter replaces the custom recovery with the stock recovery, you will still be s-off allowing you to flash the custom recovery right back without having to do all that unrevoked stuff again.