htc hero orange to work in americas umts 1900 - Hero, G2 Touch Android Development

im new with this cell phone and i want to know something
i know this is the europe version of the hero aka hero 100
a friend of mine give me the phone here in colombia south america and my carrier uses the 1900mhz 4 the umts hsdpa
its possible to change i dont know hte rom , the kernel , the radio or the firmware
so i can use this pone in the 1900mz frecuency ?????
can i install a rom from a us carrier or a canadian carrier to unlock this
or this comes directly from the hardware
thnkx so much

xnakeg said:
im new with this cell phone and i want to know something
i know this is the europe version of the hero aka hero 100
a friend of mine give me the phone here in colombia south america and my carrier uses the 1900mhz 4 the umts hsdpa
its possible to change i dont know hte rom , the kernel , the radio or the firmware
so i can use this pone in the 1900mz frecuency ?????
can i install a rom from a us carrier or a canadian carrier to unlock this
or this comes directly from the hardware
thnkx so much
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No on all accounts

No it wont work, different frequency different hardware.

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good time to every one
i have a Qtek 1010. i bring it from saudi arabia ot USA. but it is not working. they told me it is dual band and should be changed to triband.
i do not know how to change it or how to fix it.
is there any one can help me.
Check the rear sticker on the device, since you brought it from SA it's most propabely is PW10A which means it's 900/1800 MHz while USA work with 900/1900 MHz bands (PW10B).
So, unless you can find a network with 900 MHz, you will not be able to use this device there.
I 'm not aware of any process to transform XDA I to be tri-band. If you must, then get a XDA II device
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/BandSwitchTool
maybe this one will help
it can of cause not be made triband because that would require
a change of all the gsm hardware in the phone
benhusain said:
good time to every one
i have a Qtek 1010. i bring it from saudi arabia ot USA. but it is not working. they told me it is dual band and should be changed to triband.
i do not know how to change it or how to fix it.
is there any one can help me.
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Your Qtek 1010 (GSM 900/1800) phone cannot work in USA (GSM 1900 band)
Thank you all
i very appreciate your replaies.
and i will take your advices.
Thanks alot

US 3G Diamond - What gives it 3G

I noticed an unlocked US 3G Diamond at Best Buy today. I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find the answer.
What makes the US version work on AT&T with 3G over the imported version? I have not seen a radio upgrade that allows it yet. The handsets actually looked quite similar with the exception of the back and battery.
I'm just curious whether to pick up the new one in order to get 3G service, or is there a radio update expected?
Thanks to anyone that can shed some light on it for me.
I have a US 3G version and the freq. that at&t uses here has been enabled.
mpf54 said:
I have a US 3G version and the freq. that at&t uses here has been enabled.
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Sure, it would be the 850 and 1900 Bands. But there are Quad-Band radios available for the EU Diamond. I wonder if it's a question about the device not having specific hardware or just being able to enable those bands to work properly.
Sorry for my english
he American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA, The people here says that is a har problem not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
Sorry for my english
The American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA (3G), The people here says that is a hard problem, not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
I have a Touch Diamond I bought last week from new Egg, just like the ones from best buy. For some reason, I can pick up the 3G signal and it will hold on to it for just a second, then x..{disconnects}..then immediatly picks up Edge and then Hsdpa?
I get 25% Edge and 75% Hdspa. I guess if you read the box, it says it picks up a 3.5G internet Broadband Connection....Anything over 3.5mbps is Hsdpa.
calito said:
The American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA (3G), The people here says that is a hard problem, not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
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I notcied that the US version had the 1350 mAh battery instead of the 900 mAh like the EU version. Was there any documentation on why they did this? Has anyone checked if putting the smaller battery and slimmer back on the US version causes any problems?
I also find it odd that HTC briefly listed the Diamond as a Quad-Band phone on their website, and have since changed it back to a Tri-Band phone.
I still have hope that our European Diamond will work with US 3G with somefirm ware flash or something
No, it will not.
charly_mx said:
I still have hope that our European Diamond will work with US 3G with somefirm ware flash or something
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What to do with a CDMA phone or even WCDMA?

Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
konrad.schafers said:
Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
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Although there are many APPs that can be used here on this forum for CDMA, Radio's, Roms & Hard SPL's require you to visit ....HERE
band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
konrad.schafers said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT regarding ROM's....you will brick your device. Most APPs are fine though.
GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U R ABOUT TO MAKE THIS GUY BRICK HIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
using WCDMA doesnt mean that ur phone is cdma!!!!!
wcdma is a coverage by the gsm if i am not mistaken.
Lokosis said:
band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
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dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
I am still not clear even after reading an article on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
maybe this is a better wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
maybe some experts can comment on this.
@konrad.schafers, you should NOT PERFORM ANY FLASH until you are sure which category your Diamond is.
deeren said:
dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
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For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
On the 8 June 2007, Telecom announced a plan to build a hybrid W-CDMA/UMTS-CDMA network [14], based on the WCDMA HSPA technology, to replace its current CDMA EV-DO network. The network is planned to go online in June 2009 [15] running at 850 MHz with some 3G 2100 MHz for extra coverage in urban areas. Telstra's Next G (in Australia) and AT&T Wireless also have networks running on 850 MHz, which can cover greater geographic distances and penetrate buildings more effectively than higher frequencies. Current CDMA phones are guaranteed by Telecom to work until at least June 2012. The Telecom UMTS network is planned to have no GSM coverage, no roaming coverage for 2G phones. Foreign 850MHz (North American) and 2100MHz (European) UMTS handsets can roam to this network.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
band27 said:
For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
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dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
deeren said:
dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
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Stay on topiic here....we are not talking about other companies. We are talking about the HTC Diamond....lol
None of these devices are dual compatible. However HTC is coming up with a product that will be introduced in the 2009 lineup. Off the top of my head...don't recall.
konrad.schafers said:
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
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You are right, the W-CDMA allows for CDMA devices the ability to use the 3G signals. Prior to this, CDMA devices were not 3G compatible.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
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Calling your provider might lead to voiding the warranty of this product. If you follow instructions as per the Wiki's and reading lots of threads, like the rest of us on this forum, your experience here will be with out a doubt, a very positive one. Millions of us flashers have crossed that line and can speak to this that although at first we were all hesitate, we are glad we did..!!
Flashing is Not for Everyone! Fear determines this....
Good Luck in what ever choices you make....If you decide to cross that line then all your Radio and ROM needs can be found over at PPCgeek.coml.........Don't forget to Hard SPL first!!
If this helps
WCDMA is base on GSM technology
CDMA was developed by Qualcomm in the United States and is the dominant network in the USA- if this helps?
Please post what Current ROM, Radio your device has.
I haven't got one yet. I was checking out the possibilities of flashing etc. They'll only launch WCDMA in June over here. Yes they are quite backwards in NZ. no full 3G by the major provider (Vodafone has had it for while).
Or even worse the broadband over here!!! You Pay per GB, around $1NZD (~55 USc) per Gigabyte (plus $50NZD base charge) and that's by far the cheapest here. Ususally they charge you something like $50NZD per month for a Gigabyte of data usage and limited bandwidth. Maximum bandwidth on which they charge you heavily is maybe 6MB if you're lucky
I used to live in germany! This is driving me mad
a bit of topic but...
Germany is one of the best places for cheap charges and bandwidth for Broadband in Europe . Nz charges base charge is similar in the UK
Seems strange as Nz was clearing money cheques (remember these) the next day back in 1976 while the UK still takes 3-5 working days.
Me personally i flashed cdma rom into gsm diamond and it didnt get broken, it just did not boot up, so i had to flash again from bootloader but no one wants to experience such a story :-D

HTC Touch Pro 2 running on HSDPA 850MHz 3G network

I know my question might be really stuppid but anybody knows if there is any software (ROM) possibility to make the HTC TP2 run on the HSDPA 850MHz? I have just bought one that might arrive next week but I guess I will need to change my carrier.
Marcus Tavares said:
I know my question might be really stuppid but anybody knows if there is any software (ROM) possibility to make the HTC TP2 run on the HSDPA 850MHz? I have just bought one that might arrive next week but I guess I will need to change my carrier.
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no there isnt and will not be until a US carrier takes the device. That will not be a rom change either, they will have the radio enabled which only HTC can allow
Thanks a lot.
Wait for At&T to release??
Safe to assume the same as touchpro/fuze? Have different chipset for 850 networks?
mallman said:
no there isnt and will not be until a US carrier takes the device. That will not be a rom change either, they will have the radio enabled which only HTC can allow
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Hi Mallman,
I already got the Touch Pro2, but I'm unable to get signal on 850. Would it be possible to change the radio once it is released for US carrier?
I'm using the phone on Mexico with the carrier Telcel. I'm only getting Edge.
Regards
Omar

getting euro hero to work with telus

so are the telus and euro hero the same hard ware wise?
could i install the telus ruu and get hspa on the 1900/850 bands? cuz my antenna can get it, it just takes gsm/egde/gprs instead of hsdpa...
does anyone know where i can find a link to this ruu?
if its not for sure, will i be able to just use my recovery image after?
if not because its an ruu, could someone package the ruu into an update.zip so i dont loose the recovery image in case it goes wrong?
thank you so much!
also to be sure
i thought i could use my phone as it is on telus! In which case,
1. is it possible to be partially unlocked?
cuz i can use rogers but not telus
2. why would telus site say my phone works when it doesnt?
3. how do i check if my phone is unlocked when i stick in a telus card and it doesnt ask for an unlock code!?
4. maybe they havnt worked out their kinks yet?
thanks again
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
It's not 100% confirmed about the hardware. But at this time, no quad HSDAP band unlocks
you just got me super stoked... are you saying that the phone might be capable... it just has to be unlocked or something?
mancsoulja said:
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
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thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
you posted this in another forums.. we told you it wont work.. youll be stuck with a 2G phone.
European Hero = Hero100
Telus Hero = Hero130
2 different product numbers, which means.. different hardware. The radios are not software locked, they physically non existant in the phone you have
xsirhc6x said:
thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
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Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
cursordroid said:
Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
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Except that he will get GPRS/EDGE on Rogers, whereas he gets nothing on Telus. because apparently they don't have a 2G network, and haven't signed a roaming agreement with a carrier that does.
Regards,
Dave
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
i dont use data anyways so not having 3g doesnt effect mee (using pay as you go)
and whoa they sell sim cards for $40! but i found for 15 just gotta wait like three days for it in the mail :\
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Depends where you live, im a tester for Ericsson and i work everynight on Rogers sites, devices are all capped at 7.2mbit and the max you can get out of the connection is close to 3mbit.. its not network congestion its just a softcap set by Rogers to not cause congesting.
i dont know if they are made available to the public, but i use a 21mbit usb aircard for my tests and on Rogers i get 15mbit in montreal.
HTC MAGIC on TELUS.
if i purchase an htc magic unlocked originally from rogers will it work with telus hspa data + phone?
Here's a thought!
If you've a question about the Magic, why not go to the Magic forums and ask it there, instead of posting on the Hero forums where it is just spam?
Regards,
Dave
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Ha on rogers maybe, but on Bell 3G speeds on my phone are 4MB/s down, and 1MB/s up.

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