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[Q] How to install a ROM?

I think this will be my last real "noob" question. I've done some searching, but no real clear answer.
Just how exactly do I install a ROM? I'm thinking of trying both Virtuous and Cyanogen, just want to test them first. And do I still need to use / have the goldcard I initially made to downgrade the firmware, or can I turn that into a "regular" SD card again?
PS - With Virtuous, will using something like LauncherPro slow it down? Or will it not matter?
Thanks again in advance.
EDIT: I also kinda need to update the radio, I have no mobile data on the stock 1.34 radio...lol.

I bet you could of figured this out by googling "how to flash rom on g2/dz" faster than typing this question lol. Get rom manager, flash recovery with rom manager, download rom you want from rom manager, click okay...pretty easy stuff.
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However sometimes this does not work. A manual install of whatever comes down to downloading and dropping the .zip file of the ROM and whatever Google App pack into your root SD mount. Boot into recovery by Pwr+Vol Down, do a full wipe of both cache and the phone. Then Install Zip from SD card, flash the rom, then the gapps. Reboot.
Yes your back key will function in root.
Edit: When mounting your sd card onto the computer make sure USB debugging is on.

Thanks guys, I did end up figuring it out, now I'm just trying to flash my radio...there's 1 thread with goo dinstructions, but they're still not clear... eugh.
I feel more and more noob with this haha.

Well do a lot of reading before you go and install just any radio.... Make sure they are compatible. I don't want to see your next noob question be "I bricked my phone please help"
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you will learn by your mistake.
That's how i learn it.

No, I made sure to read everything I could. I just couldn't find any noob friendly radio instructions. I installed Virtuous, just trying to update to the recommended radio. lol

Rmk40 actually just released a program all about radios. Go check it out.
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SERIOUSLY, careful. No offense, but if you're not sure on the details of how to flash a ROM, chances are you don't have the knowledge to safely flash your radio.
I feel competent flashing roms, pushing files with adb, and radios still freak me out. If you mess up, there's not turning back =/

puravida82 said:
SERIOUSLY, careful. No offense, but if you're not sure on the details of how to flash a ROM, chances are you don't have the knowledge to safely flash your radio.
I feel competent flashing roms, pushing files with adb, and radios still freak me out. If you mess up, there's not turning back =/
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I have a ROM flashed now. Just haven't found any real concise instructions on how to flash a radio.
The problem I find with most of these guides is that they say "If you don't know this blah blah google it", rather than explaining the method and how to do it / why it is important.

Bloodlvst said:
I have a ROM flashed now. Just haven't found any real concise instructions on how to flash a radio.
The problem I find with most of these guides is that they say "If you don't know this blah blah google it", rather than explaining the method and how to do it / why it is important.
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I think you should get clockwork mod premium and check out the options on there, it will basically download the rom for you and complete all the necessary steps to have a working install. I've been flashing roms since the G1 in 2008 and I still have some small issues here and there when doing it manually but if you want a safe bet, go with the clockwork mod app :]

dietotherhythm said:
I think you should get clockwork mod premium and check out the options on there, it will basically download the rom for you and complete all the necessary steps to have a working install. I've been flashing roms since the G1 in 2008 and I still have some small issues here and there when doing it manually but if you want a safe bet, go with the clockwork mod app :]
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I used it already to isntall roms, but can you flash radios with it?
Radio flashed...still can't use browser though...bleh.

why flash your radio though? I'm using CM7 RC4 with Pershoot kernel en stock radio... reaching up to 30 hours of uptime (with average usage) and good connectivity.

Spastic909 said:
I bet you could of figured this out by googling "how to flash rom on g2/dz" faster than typing this question lol.
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Good advice. I usually search on youtube for walk throughs. Done that since my G1 days. I also go to theunlockr.com to view their tutorials.

SnowOokami said:
why flash your radio though? I'm using CM7 RC4 with Pershoot kernel en stock radio... reaching up to 30 hours of uptime (with average usage) and good connectivity.
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When I run Cyanogen internet is fine. But on Virtuous the Internet will not work. That is why lol.

[Q] trouble in switching to g2 default rom

HI
I have a t mobile G2 its permanent rooted , i want to switch to shipped rom of g2 ie the factory default os, i have tried "RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.4_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.24_M_release_155297_signed" but it gives error on installing error 159
plz help my current specs are
virtous g lite
baseband version 12.28b.60.140eu_26.03.02.26_m
kernal version 2.6.35.10-virtuos-glite-v3.0.1+rmk
Build number 2.13.531.8 cl56018 release keys
rom manager v4.2.1.0
please give me step by step procedure to switch back to G2 default rom so that i can get official updates
i am a new-bie

Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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Spastic909 said:
Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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While this is good advice, it's not really a useful post to respond to this question about. I'm researching the same type of issue for someone and this response has only been useful as an annoyance.

u do a clean install? if so try toggle signature..that worked for me before

Spastic909 said:
Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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Sao phien ha the

Couple things,
If you install the official OTA update, you will lose root, and will not be able to get it back. Its not currently rootable, and AFAIK, people are having trouble even downgrading from the official Gingerbread OTA in order to root. So bottom line, official GB OTA is a bad idea if you want root.
Second, the official GB update is posted in the Development section, so you don't need to mess with going back to stock in order to get the OTA, if you still want to install the official GB update.
Third, there is a pre-rooted version of the GB update, also in the Development section. So THAT is probably what you really want.
Forth, the RUU you are trying to install is not the stock T-Mobile ROM. Its a stock Desire Z ROM (with Sense). Again, you will lose root if you flash an official ROM, but this one (1.34) is actually rootable. You should still be able to install it anyway, so I'm not sure what the issue is. You're trying to run the RUU from your computer, right? Its not one you flash from ROM Manager.

wonderfulmetropolis said:
While this is good advice, it's not really a useful post to respond to this question about. I'm researching the same type of issue for someone and this response has only been useful as an annoyance.
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So what's your point? Didn't see any rules on how to respond..
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Flashing a new recovery-help

hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.

HeatRyder said:
hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.
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RM might be lieing to you since that header is meant to show you what CWM you have installed and what the latest CWM is. Try booting into recovery from the bootloader and see what's there.
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Pretty sure the OP is asking how to flash stock recovery or something other than clockworkmod.
My question is why? You don't have to flash newest cwm 5.X(you can flash older versions in RM) and there is a thread toget back to complete stock in dev section.
No alternate recoveries besides stock and cwm
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thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?

never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?

HeatRyder said:
thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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It's already available for the G2 so it should be available for the DZ as well. Check the ROMs thread in the sticky, there's probably already a rooted version out that you could flash with CWM.
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HeatRyder said:
never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?
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Factory reset from flashing a recovery? That shouldn't have happened.
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well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.

HeatRyder said:
well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.
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Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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OriginalGabriel said:
Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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lmao i think i might have...ahh the stupid mistakes i make. anyways thanks a lot for your help. btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?

HeatRyder said:
thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
HeatRyder said:
btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?
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You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?

martonikaj said:
You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?
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yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.

HeatRyder said:
yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.
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Not sure which apps youre referring to that aren't going to work in Canada... anything you use on your current ROM probably works on the 2.3 rooted Sense based ROMs lol.
The DZ is the G2 in the USA, and has completely different firmware. It doesn't have HTC sense. So you probably won't find many HTC Sense based ROMs that are "for the u.s." as you put it...
People like Virtuous unity. Its 2.3 based Sense with some Sense 3.0 flares. There are also a few stock pre-rooted OTA DZ builds out there. Go take a look in the dev section. If you like Sense, there are plenty of options for this device.

no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.

HeatRyder said:
no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.
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I don't use Sense (don't like it) and I wouldn't wanna make a recommendation because I'm not very versed on them.
There are several options, I suggest you try them all and choose which you like. Lots of people like Virtuous Unity.

which tends to crash more? miui or virtuous unity?

On CM7 want to go back to stock

Im selling my G2 and thought i had made backup prior to flashing to CM7.
What is the best "official" rom to go back to? And maybe a little noob guidence. I beileve i just boot to recovery and then restore yes?

The official ROM is T-Mobile's stock ROM. You can find it along with a guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unrooting_and_Returning_to_Stock

I dont want to unroot i just want to go to stock gingerbread rom

Well, I assumed you wanted to sell the phone in a state similar to as if it just came from the factory, in which case flashing the original stock ROM would be unrooted.

Than flash virtuous 2.0 - i think this is as close to stock you can get, with some good tweaks and you are still rooted
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The title is confusing after reading OPs second post :/
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stubby210 said:
The title is confusing after reading OPs second post :/
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How is it confusing? He's on cm7 now, and he wants to go back to stock without unrooting.
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ibemad1 said:
How is it confusing? He's on cm7 now, and he wants to go back to stock without unrooting.
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I was also confused. "Stock" implies stock, as in factory condition, i.e. unrooted...

hoffmas said:
Than flash virtuous 2.0 - i think this is as close to stock you can get, with some good tweaks and you are still rooted
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He`s got a G2 though which means he never had HTC Sense, he would want Virtuous G-Lite if anything (unless that`s what you meant in which case my bad haha)

I think there are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section. Flash those for a rooted stock experience.
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gee one said:
I think there are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section. Flash those for a rooted stock experience.
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There are stock 2.3.4 roms that are already rooted, but it screws up. I was in the same situation. I suggest try to go back to stock 2.2 (Froyo) and then install updates. I don't think rooting the G2 on 2.3.4 is worth it really. Trust me. Its a freakin pain. Anyway, back to rooted 2.3.4 rom. I flashed it 2 days ago and it almost screwed up my phone! I can't use the market (i get an error) and I can't use music, camera, media stuff.. Its not worth flashing 2.3.4 rom. Although, if you want to be a rebel, go for it
You've been warned by the way.

There's a 'stock' rooted ROM available that works great. However, I would not sell it when rooted. If the person you sell it to gets an automatic update from HTC, it could brick the phone. Put the original non-rooted ROM back on before you sell it.

cheetodude24 said:
There are stock 2.3.4 roms that are already rooted, but it screws up. I was in the same situation. I suggest try to go back to stock 2.2 (Froyo) and then install updates. I don't think rooting the G2 on 2.3.4 is worth it really. Trust me. Its a freakin pain. Anyway, back to rooted 2.3.4 rom. I flashed it 2 days ago and it almost screwed up my phone! I can't use the market (i get an error) and I can't use music, camera, media stuff.. Its not worth flashing 2.3.4 rom. Although, if you want to be a rebel, go for it
You've been warned by the way.
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Stock rooted 2.3.4 worked great for me

killj0y said:
Stock rooted 2.3.4 worked great for me
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Agreed. Off topic but @cheetodude24 should seek help if he/she is having problems with the rooted stock ROM.

[Q] Can I flash a custom rom while I'm on a custom Rom?

I'm running wicked v7, can I just flash a different rom while I'm on Wicked v7? Or do I need to go back to stock and flash a custom rom from stock?
Thanks!

You can flash from any ROM just make sure to follow the installation instruction of the ROM you want to flash.
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Great thanks, I seem to remember something from a while ago that you should always return to stock before flashing a custom rom... Has that changed or was I imagining that?
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Never been the case for the s3. Whoever said this was wrong . Some people reported that going back to stock fixed son issues but it is mostly placebo or they just needed a full wipe but going back to stock wont help any aosp ROM to work better or fix anything.
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check out the link in my signature. the outlined procedures will get you up and running on your ROM of choice safely and smoothly. post #2 also has a few tidbits of info. cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
check out the link in my signature. the outlined procedures will get you up and running on your ROM of choice safely and smoothly. post #2 also has a few tidbits of info. cheers
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I've flashed several custom ROMS, my concern was making sure I could go from one ROM to another with no issues. Like I said I always thought you had to return to stock before flashing a different custom ROM - I will check out your link now - thanks!!

jackryan57 said:
I've flashed several custom ROMS, my concern was making sure I could go from one ROM to another with no issues. Like I said I always thought you had to return to stock before flashing a different custom ROM - I will check out your link now - thanks!!
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when you flash a ROM, during the wipe process you should wipe system (twrp) or format /system (cwm). that clears the OS and allows for a clean start on the new ROM.