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[Q] Feature of Desire Developement (Amoled - SLCD)

So upcoming Desires will delivered with Sony Super LCD and we saw that they will have Black screens with our ROM´s.
Will there be Amoled and SLCD ROM´s in future?

[Q] DHD or DZ

hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings

The Desire HD is better in performance as far as I know.
The screen aint that big, it fits in your hand and it's nice to browse on the internet with a bigger screen.

5kordez5 said:
hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings
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1 Better in performance = generally desire HD, because of higher stock speed.
2 Build = desire HD HECK in my honest opinion the z-hinge wasnt a wise design. (i could be wrong)
3 screen = In my opinion if you'd like high res screens you should go for desire-Z. When placed side by side with desire HD, I think the colours look a slightly more vivid.
AH but of course, I've been using my phone(DHD) for 1 month and i can't differentiate between the individual pixels when my eyes are more than 7 cm from the screen. So all in all , I dont think the resolution of the screen screen is a problem of the DHD.
Main disadvantages of the DHD is that sometimes your pocketablility(LOL) is affected at some times, because of its sheer size.(especially if you LOVE wearing skinnys).Not a problem for me though.

If the hinge on the Z is made as well as that on the G1 you'll be fine. The G1 is virtually bomb proof and after two years and several drops the hinge works perfectly. I'd say you could take quality out of the equation.
The DHD is beter spec'd.
But I really I would have thought the choice comes down to whether or not you want a physical keyboard. As for size, go to a store, check them both out. I find the Z (as with the G1) feels bulkier than the DHD both in hand and pocket.

The dhd looks big and ungainly but the erotic curve on the back means it sits nicely in the hand.
Someone swyped my idea.

5kordez5 said:
hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings
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I'd say, if you really need a hardware keyboard, then go for the Desire Z, but if your willing to trade the keyboard for a bigger screen then go for the Desire HD. In terms of performance, desire HD is better:
Desire HD vs Desire Z:
768mb RAM vs 512mb RAM
1ghz snapdragon vs MSM 800mhz
and higher stock scores in quadrant...
I love my desire HD, i dont think its too big and i love the size of the screen. Both are solid in terms of build quality, and as for screen, i think the desire z has better colours and contrast, but the screen is still amazing, but in pixel density i didnt really notice a huge difference.
Only if you need the hardware keyboard then go for the desire z, otherwise desire HD.

I have had both, and I'm in love with the DHD, but the Z is a great phone also... DHD FTW
Sent from my Ginger Garnished HTC Desire HD

Before reviving my DHD I was worried it would be massive in hand and bulky in pocket, I thought the screen size would suit my large hands.
It was the right decision, the phone looks big compared to a iPhone for example until you place them on top of one another and see its only slightly bigger. The screen is great, again you can only see the pixels if you put your face on the screen, from normal distance the screen is crisp and natural.
In pocket its skimmer than my wallet and un-noticeable. Great build quality oh and fast.
Hope this helps.
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thanks for the replies
you helped me a lot
ive made my decision
im going to buy DHD

dhiral.v said:
I'd say, if you really need a hardware keyboard, then go for the Desire Z, but if your willing to trade the keyboard for a bigger screen then go for the Desire HD. In terms of performance, desire HD is better:
Desire HD vs Desire Z:
768mb RAM vs 512mb RAM
1ghz snapdragon vs MSM 800mhz
and higher stock scores in quadrant...
I love my desire HD, i dont think its too big and i love the size of the screen. Both are solid in terms of build quality, and as for screen, i think the desire z has better colours and contrast, but the screen is still amazing, but in pixel density i didnt really notice a huge difference.
Only if you need the hardware keyboard then go for the desire z, otherwise desire HD.
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the desire z uses a 2nd generation snapdragon like us, an although the clock speed is only 800mhz, its easly on par if not better than the 1gig snapdragon in the classic desire

AndroHero said:
the desire z uses a 2nd generation snapdragon like us, an although the clock speed is only 800mhz, its easly on par if not better than the 1gig snapdragon in the classic desire
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Yes it is a 2nd gen snapdragon but it is a different model MSM 7230 800 MHz processor whereas desire HD uses QSD 8255 1ghz chip. Definatley both are better than the classic desire becuase they use a 45nm process vs the 65nm process. The 2nd gen also uses the adreno 205 gpu as apose to the adreno 200 in the 1st gen snapdragon. But the desire HD is said to have a stronger processor than the desire z overall.

dhiral.v said:
Yes it is a 2nd gen snapdragon but it is a different model MSM 7230 800 MHz processor whereas desire HD uses QSD 8255 1ghz chip. Definatley both are better than the classic desire becuase they use a 45nm process vs the 65nm process. The 2nd gen also uses the adreno 205 gpu as apose to the adreno 200 in the 1st gen snapdragon. But the desire HD is said to have a stronger processor than the desire z overall.
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no doubt about it we have the better cpu thats why i got a HD not a Z

[Q] what is difference to desire bought year ago to one now

hi i had a desire when it first came out , and then went iphone route, i am considering desire again but wonder if it would be updated with new sense ui etc that i read about on new desire models ie the hd and z . what differences could i expect , including android updates many thanks

No new sense until HTC releases official update.
Oh, and a year ago was before Samsung realized how good screen they made. After that they decided to f HTC in the a, so now you would get SLCD instead of AMOLED.
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They didn't f HTC in the a, they just couldn't make AMOLED screens fast enough for HTC since HTC had 3 models that were being made at the same time more or less and they all used AMOLED screens. So they had to use SLCD screens as a compromise.
Anyway, no point in getting the original Desire now really since Desire S is coming out and will be better. Desire S also comes with 2.3.(x) I think so Sense would be updated. Where as Desire gets 2.3 update in Q2.
I must say bah to the iPhone.

There has been a few updates to the os most notably 720p video recording.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I'd say go for the HD Desire.
I have the old Desire. My friend has the HD. My word, its a beautiful phone. The screen is massive.
Compare the two on GSMarena.

[Q] Desire vs Desire Z vs Desire HD vs Desire S

Which one of the four Desires is best?
HTC Desire or HTC Desire S or HTC Desire HD or HTC Desire Z?
Comparison table drawn here: http://www.geekword.net/htc-desire-s-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z-vs-htc-desire/

Personal preferences except for the normal desire, that one is old.
If you want big screen HD.
If you want physical keyboard Z.
No keyboard and 4" to big S.
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both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)

Desire S for me...i've had the Bravo since it was released and i still love it (i also had the Desire Z for a few weeks)
4.3" screens are too big for girl's hands, so if i were to upgrade it would be to the Desire S for the ff camera and more RAM

I really want a physical keyboard. So I guess than Desire Z is for me. My gf has HTC Evo Shift 4g (HTC Knight). Its the same screen size, but has a slide out keyboard. Perfect!
Unfortunately, although my carries has great service and price, it sucks at bringing new phones to customers. After all we did not get the Desire until late August 2010.

Zhenya13 said:
I really want a physical keyboard.
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i found the Desire Z way too heavy

I just wish that the original Desire had more internal memory (and maybe a tad more ram)
the S's non-physical keys is a shame - but the S / Original for me.
front facing camera i can live without as I never used it on the Blackstone

Desire s i think

dzumagos said:
both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)
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I would vote for Desire S. It's screen is smaller than HD's, but it has the same pixel count, so the images will look better. It also has front camera, which will be useful in near future. The hardware in both phones is the same, but since S is newer, it may be longer supported by HTC.
If there is a senseles phone, it is Incredible S, which is Desire HD with front camera and doesn't worth its money.

I actually bought the original Desire a month ago and I can honestly say its the best thing I have ever had. Even though its a year old now, its still awesome. I even flashed it with the latest RCMIX HD rom so it now has all the features of the desire hd, plus its literally twice as fast. I also repartitioned the sd card, so the internal storage is like 800MBs.
To be honest, I checked the other phones before I bought this one, and I found the HD too big and expensive, and didn't like the keyboard of the desire Z. As for the S model, it doesn't seem to be anything special with the fact that its expensive too.
So if you're looking for the right sized phone and don't want to spend big bux yet still have a beast in your hands, the original desire is the way to go. Remember, as long as you can flash it, you'll never miss all the fun of the new phones.
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i have original desire.. what i miss the most is proper multitouch. .apart from that it is great.. perfect weight and size! htc desire hd is too big imo.. if you want keyboard get the desire z but heard it's a bit heavy... i would recommand desire s

Just buy the mobile what you think is the best for you.
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I still have old desire. I`m thinking that i would be missing trackball in other desires

Yup I like the optical trackball too. Bear in mind that desire's multitouch is not good at all.

Desire is my choice, have one for alomost half a year now and I am super happy with it. Didn't test desire s and z, but I test HD one, and I don't like him at all, a little bit new software then desire but very clumsy made, and it's too big to put him in normal pockets, only if you are rapper and have that big pockets.

In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The original desire wins for me . I'm due an upgrade , so i decided to be brave and try rooting it and flashing a new rom , now i don't need a new phone . It's opened a whole new fun world .
desire hd if you like the size

I ON said:
In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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not holding out for the Sensation?

If my Desire/Bravo had proper multitouch support and an hdmi out I'd keep it for another 2-3 years..

Pleased as punch with the orignal desire, came to it from the blackstone.
Yes a faster processor would be nice, yes being able to play PSP quality games would be nice but ulitmatley its a phone and web browser which desire 1 does well.
I don't think I'll be getting the itch to change phones until battery life under load is measured in days not hours and OTA data network infrastructure improves and by that I mean High speed (3.5 and 4G) coverage and cost.
Google maps is a toy, it would be great to use when abroad in foreign cities but at £3-8 per MB its unusable.
One example I have is when I got lost in geneva, was in a rush and nobody was around to ask for directions so I fired up data roaming to quickly find out where I was - I had satelight view with a couple of layers as well still set from wehn I use it at home - £5! for about 1minutes usage!!!!

[Q] lil bit confused here

its to my understanding that the desire comes in slcd or s/amoled screens but wen i look in settings/about phone/hardware it says i have wvga screen...can someone elaborate??

Original Desires had AMOLED until about august 2010, all new Desires from then on are SLCD

so wat does the wvga mean...do i have slcd

If you bought your phone brand new after August 2010 then you will have SLCD most likely. WVGA is like a sub type of screen. Correct me if I'm wrong. All you need to worry about is AMOLED or SLCD.

WVGA just means it's 800x480. It says nothing about the type of screen it is.
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Year screen type i not specified anywhere in the software. There is of course a difference in the drivers, however the newer firmwares after slcd release support both screen types so this was only a problem in the beginning when people flashed amoled firmware on slcd phones, so it should not be a concern to you. And if you did buy it after august 2010 it is VERY likely to be slcd.
WVGA has nothing to do with type. It is just the std name for 800*480 pixel resolution.

What I understand, about why the AMOLED went SLCD, was that
Samsung made HTCs screens, until they realised that they have
some good screens, and wanted to keep that advantage to themselves.
Cant blame them for that. Samsung has very good screens,
but they lack HTCs development such as the sence part.
In comparesence samsung screens (and Desires AMOLED)
are a bit better in bright light environment, aka sunlight.
I got the SLCD and its hard to se anything on the screen,
on a sunny day.
Wanna find out wich screen U got?
http://pocketnow.com/android/how-to-tell-if-your-htc-desire-has-slcd-or-amoled-screen
"Check the box your Desire came with at the section Display: if it states "3.7 inch AMOLED touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an AMOLED display but if it says "3.7-inch touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an SLCD display."
My to cents...

So what's qvga? I know there are more like that.
Sent from CM7

Ok thaNX FOR the help...I bought it after Aug 2010 so I say iv got docs...and on the box it only says 3.7 touch sensitive screen
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