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Evo + 'droid + outlook

Hey guys. i don't have my evo yet, but i've been reading on how to sync outlook with the phone. i read that you have to sync everything (contacts and all) to a google account and then to the phone. is there any way to sync directly to the phone?
thanks!!

When you say outlook do you mean exchange? There is exchange support using moxier mail. You do not need to sync to gmail.

The Evo will likely include HTC Sync which would allow you to connect and synce with Outlook via a PC connection. It has come with the other android phones. Perhaps one of the guys that got one from IO can weigh in.

wait, no native exchange support??? what?? I was running android 1.6 on my sprint vogue and had exchange built in (custom rom maybe why)...but when i upgraded to the droid with verizon i think i had exchange then as well! so...am i missing something? i think there is a native "work email" app in which you don't have to use moxier mail or k-9 or any of the many others. just set it up w/ your exchange server and use it entirely separate from gmail.
please correct me if i am wrong!

adeyo said:
wait, no native exchange support??? what?? I was running android 1.6 on my sprint vogue and had exchange built in (custom rom maybe why)...but when i upgraded to the droid with verizon i think i had exchange then as well! so...am i missing something? i think there is a native "work email" app in which you don't have to use moxier mail or k-9 or any of the many others. just set it up w/ your exchange server and use it entirely separate from gmail.
please correct me if i am wrong!
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I have gotten so many different answers on Exchange with Android. Very fustrating to say the least but the good thing is the EVO has a 30day return so if there is no native Exchange support this thing is going back.
How Android can not have native exchange support would be beyond me!

MrDSL said:
I have gotten so many different answers on Exchange with Android. Very fustrating to say the least but the good thing is the EVO has a 30day return so if there is no native Exchange support this thing is going back.
How Android can not have native exchange support would be beyond me!
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I understand your frustration, but I am sure you were being sarcastic above. I can't believe you would miss the chance to enjoy a "supposedly" great piece of hardware with a great OS just because a little bit of effort is involved?
HTC's Sense UI provides "native" exchange support for the Android OS, see this reference (search for "exchange"):
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/24/htc-evo-4g-first-impressions/
If you don't like HTC's exchange integration, K9 is a free email client for android with exchange support:
http://www.androidtapp.com/k9-mail/
If you don't like either of the above options, both of which are free, then Exchange by Touchdown is a paid app ($19.99) with exchange support:
http://www.androidtapp.com/exchange-by-touchdown/

diesel556 said:
I understand your frustration, but I am sure you were being sarcastic above. I can't believe you would miss the chance to enjoy a "supposedly" great piece of hardware with a great OS just because a little bit of effort is involved?
HTC's Sense UI provides "native" exchange support for the Android OS, see this reference (search for "exchange"):
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/24/htc-evo-4g-first-impressions/
If you don't like HTC's exchange integration, K9 is a free email client for android with exchange support:
http://www.androidtapp.com/k9-mail/
If you don't like either of the above options, both of which are free, then Exchange by Touchdown is a paid app ($19.99) with exchange support:
http://www.androidtapp.com/exchange-by-touchdown/
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Thanks for the links. If I decide to drop sense ui the Touchdown seems like my best option.

Exchange support
I have ran Android since ver 1.5 and everyone has been able to natively sync with my work Exchange server for mail, contacts and calendar.

Thinking about moving to android, few questions...

Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
Any comments and help is appreciated... Thanks!

Loco5150 said:
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
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HTC Sync comes with the phone, I also had some contacts stored on my company mail but I've started migrating to gmail because the really really neat integration and extremely useful features.
Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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I don't use any software for editing just for opening the docs on my smartphone so I can't help you here but I'm fairly sure you can
Loco5150 said:
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
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Again I'm more hands on with the storage so I don't sync folders maybe someone else can help you here...
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Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
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Yes you can, there are vagarious free apps on the market that even offer feature widgets/notes for the screens

Hi there!
Did you already buy a Desire? I've used winmob before and you sound like you're totally schooled at Outlook with usb sync. HTC has exchange service support and you can sync through usb, It was long time ago since I ever used active sync but a friend of mine use it on Desire and he was not satisfied.
There is calendarpad that can show on start screen as activities or regular day view. Editing documents are thought to be done through Google docs as it is thought to be faster than a full scale office program on the phone. You can other wise get quick office premium for editing offline.
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Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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yep, documents to go has such functionality:

Loco5150 said:
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com...
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Have you thought about using Google Apps for Domains, so that you can use your own domain with Google services?
Regards,
Dave

Google Tasks for WP7 - Needed?

Hi, I'm the developer of GogTasks for WM6.5 (thread on this site). Do you guys think there is a demand for a similar app for Windows Phone 7?
The reason I ask is that I'm not very familiar with the platform from a user-perspective myself. I've developed one app for it, but I'm not a daily user of a WP7 phone. Are there tasks apps bundled with the phone, and if there is, does it have any integration with a) Outlook or b) Google? (I'm pretty sure the answer is no on b) at least).
Also I believe apps are not allowed to integrate with Outlook on WP7 (the API is blocked for third party developers), so I believe the app will be more of a Google Tasks front end than a sync app. Still I may benefit from the API reverse engineering I did for GogTasks for WM6.5 / Desktop Outlook, but is there a demand for it?
Appreciate all input.

Ohhhh yes, would be a cool addition. I can sync my Outlook Tasks to Google via gSyncIt Addin for Outlook and then comes your app for WP7. At this time there are some ToDo Task Apps available, but no no one with Google Tasks Support.

i second that!!! I used g tasks when i had android but no such luck on WP7

I also missing the feature of google tasks on my wp7!
Unfortunately so far there is no wp7-app for google tasks.

I would also love a good google task app with a nice live tile.
Go for it

Ok thanks for your feedback. Maybe I should go for this, but there is one bump in the road - I just rememebered why I haven't done this before :/ ...Microsoft declined v1.1 of GogTasks for WinMo 6.5 on the marketplace because I use a non-public, non-supported WebService API (Google is about to release an open version of the API soon, but we never know how long that will take). I might try to publish anyway and see what happens.
redman99: What kind of info do you think would be relevant on the tile? Whether or not you have any tasks due today maybe? Or the date of the next due task? What if you have no tasks with due dates? Just a static icon?

This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
What you likely have to do with that app is set Google as an Exchange sync, not its normal email type. If Bring the Wine can pass marketplace approval using what I would expect is a somewhat undocumented Exchange API, I would think you could. Especially don't let a single submission keep an idea from being presented because apparently the certification process while rigid can be somewhat of a crap shoot.
Having said all this, Google Tasks do work in the IE browser I believe. They're not perfect but it was a decent stop gap for me. Now I'll try out BtW and if you do release your app, I'd give it a go as well.

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
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Thanks for the hint... i not use Exchange so i still would love a sync app for google task that works without Exchange!
*wink @Nilzor

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
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I'm pretty sure Google's exchange sync protocol still does NOT support tasks. Have you tried this?

gTasks - Google Task Manager - Just released
An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e

rjonna said:
An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
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Thanks for the heads up. This probably means there's no point in me going forward with this.
Anyone care to test the app? The irony of being a developer from Norway is that I can sell apps, but not buy or download (yet).

Yes i have tested it. The App works, but it needs some developing on it. there should be a option to automaticly sync the entrys and as a startpage i would prever a list of the avalaible lists, to choose from. after choosing the right list, i would like to load the items for this particular list. i hope its clear what i mean.
btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.

bilbo_b said:
btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.
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Cool. I did not know of this.

GooTa - an app for google tasks on windows phone
i also really felt the lack of google tasks on windows phone. i'm a heavy user and really love the nesting of tasks and how lightweight it feels in gmail.
and i didn't think that the gtasks app above me quite fit my needs...-_-
so i tried writing my own! check it out:
windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/49fd8ee0-7a38-426e-b674-7ccff5922333
it's called GooTa (google tasks).
let me know if it's missing anything you want -- there's a feedback link in the app. i hope this fits your needs! and if not, let me know and i can add whatever it's missing so it does

Disappointed: Exchange email support

I had been led to believe that ICS would finally give sub-folder support in MS Exchange (where you can see a combined view of all your email from all sub-folders and not have to go manually to each subfolder to read mail - also, if an email goes to a sub-folder, you don't get a new email notification). Touchdown has had it for ages.
And still not synchronising of Tasks!!!!
I was really hoping to run a "pure Android" phone but once again I have to use a third party app for email.

tangiers said:
And still not synchronising of Tasks!!!!
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No tasks sync, still? Well, it's a good thing GoTasks is free and works just like a real Google app (i.e. Google Tasks shows up for your google account under accounts & sync).

Good thing Nitrodesk Touchdown is a good app. I've been using it for about 2 years on my phone (N1) and about a year on my tablet (Xoom). Is worth the money if you need good Exchange support. I need it for work so it was a no-brainer a couple years back. I don't know if Google's email client will ever be as good. It seems like Google's concentration is on improving the Gmail application. I don't mind because other than work I use Gmail a lot. I have Touchdown for Exchange and don't care if it is a Google app or not.

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No tasks sync, still? Well, it's a good thing GoTasks is free and works just like a real Google app (i.e. Google Tasks shows up for your google account under accounts & sync).
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about Outlook/Exchange tasks.

i never understood why google just didn't combine gmail and others into their app. I use Enhanced email it that works too even for tasks,syncing and other stuff.

matt2053 said:
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Outlook/Exchange tasks.
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Ah right, forgot Exchange does Tasks too.

tangiers said:
I was really hoping to run a "pure Android" phone but once again I have to use a third party app for email.
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When people say "pure Android" they mean without motoblur/sense/touchwiz. If you discounted 3rd party apps that would be ridiculous as that's what Android is all about, customization. I get what you mean, not having to add email apps or messaging apps or a camera app... the idea is similar, but a bit silly.

Enhanced Email works well. When my company first moved to Android, a few were pissed about the lack of Tasks. Email, Calendar, and Contacts is all I need and Android does that nicely.
But for a really good exchange app, I suggest TouchDown. There is also another one that is relatively new but looks like it is a pretty heavy email app.

degeneration said:
When people say "pure Android" they mean without motoblur/sense/touchwiz. If you discounted 3rd party apps that would be ridiculous as that's what Android is all about, customization. I get what you mean, not having to add email apps or messaging apps or a camera app... the idea is similar, but a bit silly.
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Yes you are right. What I mean is not having to duplicate system apps with third party apps. I never know if it is safe to disable the Android stock email (and risk disruption to my email) or not and if I don't, whether I am wasting battery on having both running in the background.
To hijack my own thread, I am also disappointed we still don't have Desktop User Agent as an option on the stock browser. Looks like I'm stuck with Dolphin again....

I've been using touchdown since the g1 days. It's pretty solid.
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tangiers said:
To hijack my own thread, I am also disappointed we still don't have Desktop User Agent as an option on the stock browser. Looks like I'm stuck with Dolphin again....
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You might have another reason to switch the browser user agent, but if it's to view the desktop site, I thought ICS had a view "full site" feature in the stock browser now to see the desktop website?

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You might have another reason to switch the browser user agent, but if it's to view the desktop site, I thought ICS had a view "full site" feature in the stock browser now to see the desktop website?
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Not that I can find.
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tangiers said:
Not that I can find.
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I don't have my GN yet, but according to:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review?artc_pg=4
It should show up in the menu. "Request Desktop Sites"

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I don't have my GN yet, but according to:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review?artc_pg=4
It should show up in the menu. "Request Desktop Sites"
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Thanks for that. I couldn't find the settings for this. I persevered and found them: it is only available if you are on the mobile version of a web page, it isn't an option if you are not.
Thanks again.
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Everybody says touchdown, but touchdown is not linked to phone's contacts, calenders etc. etc.
There is no sense for me in using touchdown, when I then have to deal with 2 calenders, 2 contact databases etc.
When I add a contact in touchdown, it does not put this contact to the phone's contacts. When I put something into my agenda, it doesn't put it the phone's agenda.
ICS ms Exchange support is really disappointing.
The search function works only online with data connection and content search only, it is not possible to search by sender, by subject etc.
Off line e-mail searching is still missing.
As long as I have to use MS Windows, MS exchange, MS office etc. Sooner or later I will have to go back to Windows phone, as I promised myself never to own an I-phone.

Bypassing Exchange Security?

Besides an Xposed mod, which we can't do yet, is there another way to bypass it? Maybe even a different app to setup the exchange account for email? IDK. I hate the restrictions tho lol.

Powell730 said:
Besides an Xposed mod, which we can't do yet, is there another way to bypass it? Maybe even a different app to setup the exchange account for email? IDK. I hate the restrictions tho lol.
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Is this a corporate account? If so I recommend accepting the restrictions and security. If it's your personal account then I know there was an app I used on my S7 that could bypass it I just can't remember the name (not helpful I know).

There's an app called Nine that can apply the security policy at the app level instead of the entire device. It's a paid app and somewhat expensive, I've been using it for years and it works really well.

Powell730 said:
Besides an Xposed mod, which we can't do yet, is there another way to bypass it? Maybe even a different app to setup the exchange account for email? IDK. I hate the restrictions tho lol.
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The app Mailwise does what you are looking for, and it's not too bad of a mail app, either.
I had the same issue, our IT people required remote wipe ability, and obscenely long password requirements just to unlock the screen.

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There's an app called Nine that can apply the security policy at the app level instead of the entire device. It's a paid app and somewhat expensive, I've been using it for years and it works really well.
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I've been using Nine since my company moved us to a hosted exchange. Don't remember how much it cost me, but definitely worth looking into.

I second the usage of mailwise. it's a pretty good mail application generally speaking..

Mailwise for me too. http://mail-wise.com/faq/#bypass

Oh man, I'm in the same boat. The Exchange security settings for one of my client email accounts is obnoxious. If I enable the account on my phone it will no longer let me use a swipe pattern or pin to unlock the phone. It only lets me use a password. The password also has to have at least four digits, one #, and at least one capital letter. It's absolutely ridiculous. Fingerprint still works, at least. But that's annoying when my phone is on my desk.
So I don't even bother enabling that exchange account on my phone. Instead, I discovered Newton Mail (play store link) a few months back. This has become my go-to email/calendar solution on both my phone and new Windows 10 machine. It's a fantastic email/calendar app that's extremely fast and has material design for Android and fluent design for Windows 10, so it flows really well with both platforms.
The only downside to this is I can't rely on Google calendar on my phone since it won't show meetings/reminders for this Exchange account, since I refuse to enable it within the system. But I've learned to use the calendar built into Newton Mail, which is actually pretty excellent. It even works with the new Google widget for the Pixel 2/2 XL. The widget updates with the upcoming event just like it would with Google Calendar. And clicking the event opens up that specific event in Newton.
I highly recommend giving Newton a try. Especially if you also use a Windows 10 machine.

Thanks for the replies everyone! I'll try some of these suggestions, much appreciated! For the users that have nine, does the calendar show in Google calendar or do you have to go into that app to see it?

Powell730 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone! I'll try some of these suggestions, much appreciated! For the users that have nine, does the calendar show in Google calendar or do you have to go into that app to see it?
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Nine is just an email client (like Newton Mail). It doesn't communicate with the Google Calendar app on your phone. It has its own calendar baked in.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en

sn0warmy said:
Nine is just an email client (like Newton Mail). It doesn't communicate with the Google Calendar app on your phone. It has its own calendar baked in.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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Not true. All meetings setup on the corporate side get thrown in to my Google calendar. I actually had to turn off notifications from Nine because I was getting double from Google Calendar.
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obsanity said:
Not true. All meetings setup on the corporate side get thrown in to my Google calendar. I actually had to turn off notifications from Nine because I was getting double from Google Calendar.
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Interesting! I may have to look into using this myself, then.

Confirmed that nine also syncs the calendar with Google calendar. I've been using it for years. Best exchange app out there for me

apascual89 said:
Confirmed that nine also syncs the calendar with Google calendar. I've been using it for years. Best exchange app out there for me
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Just installed Nine to handle my exchange account. It immediately started syncing to the Google calendar. So happy to be able to use Google Calendar again, now that I can truly see all my events in it.

Nine is the best.

If it is just for the ActiveSync policies, the Exchained app can bypass those and let you keep using gmail.

any update on this guys?

henderjr said:
Mailwise for me too. http://mail-wise.com/faq/#bypass
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so MAilwise does not work and has stopped developement, need an alternative
Nine Email works great by bring restriction to the app level instead of the device level but it is 15$ , a bit more than I would want to spend
found Email app that works , but does not give notifications of the new emails in the notification bar
Email - Fast & Secure Mail - Apps on Google Play
No More Spam. No More Email Stress. Manage Multiple Accounts. Switch Today
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Blue mail works well for fre ewith notifications and no security hurdle
Email Blue Mail - Calendar - Apps on Google Play
Mail support for all email accounts: IMAP, ActiveSync, EWS, POP3
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staying with this unless things change..
Any other alternatives? Android 10 here