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I have a couple of questions relating to the upcoming official release from htc for the Hero GSM.
This official update will probably also contain a new hboot for the hero. This will probably mean that the hero will be very more or even impossible to root? I have read many root guides (lost track how many... :S) Is there a way that will probably work and allow to root or rooted roms to flash?
Is there any advantage to having a new hboot, like boot speed? hardware support? In the past updating the IPL/SPL of my HTC Touch brought more stability and speed for example. Is this the same with the hboot of the hero?
So is their any useful reason to use the official update first and then go to a custom rom after that?
Just a couple of questions/thoughts i had on the upcoming release.
Have a read of my sticky at the VillainROM Forums (http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28)
That should answer the questions regarding risks.
Basically, if you have any intention of rooting, don't install any official updates from now on...
I don't think there would be any changes in the hboot re. stability and hardware etc. It's pretty good as is, so it'll be security tweaks I reckon (maybe removing recovery, I don't know...)
anon2122 said:
Have a read of my sticky at the VillainROM Forums (http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28)
That should answer the questions regarding risks.
Basically, if you have any intention of rooting, don't install any official updates from now on...
I don't think there would be any changes in the hboot re. stability and hardware etc. It's pretty good as is, so it'll be security tweaks I reckon (maybe removing recovery, I don't know...)
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Thanx very clear answer I'll just stick with the rooted custom roms for now then ;-)
hi guys I bought my DHD last month form Amazon.UK and im using it here in Middle-east .the phone has never being used in UK. All of my friends got the update but not just me why? is it because im here in KSA and the phone I bought is form UK? why i'm saying all this is because the HTC customer service said ,
''Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. With regards to your inquiry, all the updates that you will receive it on your device OS it will refer back to the UK region because your device is from UK. Thank you once again for your continued patronage.''
what dose it mean that I will never gona get any update like not 2.3 or not even 2.2.1. well finally what I was thinking of now, is it possible if I insert my UK sim card in the phone so it might give update idk i have to look for some UK sims then.
Same here..My DHD is too from UK
I haven't received any of the updates either
My brother and my friends already updated to 1.83.415.6 and im still stuck with the 1.32.405.6
Dude, 1.83.415.6 is an OTA for Middle-Eastern phones (containing Arabic support), so you won't get it if your phone is a UK unit.
Actually my brother and me bought the unit together and he had the same system software as mine but he got an update and the update is not actually for arabic support only...It improves the performance and the battery life
Just root guys then you will have all the updates you want.
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as for now, HTC dont have any upgrade for desire HD yet. the last update (ver 2.2.1) also has been reverted because of several issues. So stock Desire HD wont receive any update (up to now).
but, if you still want the update, you can flash your rom.
What do you mean by just root and you will get all the updates??..
didnt get this
ghazi chawla said:
What do you mean by just root and you will get all the updates??..
didnt get this
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Root is an way to gain more control over your phone. You will get to play around with your /system and many other goodies like OC/UV. Search around in the forum and you will find complete guide to root your DHD and then you will be able to flash custom ROMs that are based on the latest RUU from HTC.
To root your phone, download visionary+ and follow the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837519
To ENG S-OFF your phone easily, follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
To flash a new radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Check the version of the Stock ROM on your DHD prior to getting started.
Mate i knew that before too and thanks for trying to help me but i was asking does rooting , s-off affect the OTA updates?
You will loose OTA but the developers on here include all the best bits from OTA updates in their custom ROMs anyway, so you will always be up to date, except a custom ROM will work so much better than stock.... faster, smoother, more stable, bettery battery life etc etc.
As you said you will loose OTA updates but once you revert back to the original stock rom then will you be able to get the OTAs or not?
Yeah, if you flash official again you'll get OTA back... but there's absolutely nothing to gain from OTA updates compared to using a custom ROM.
Seriously, the developers here are a lot better at fixing bugs and problems than the "developers" working for HTC!
where can we get the official roms...its too long that i havent received any updates..maybe if i reflash with a official rom i get updates...
actually i dont want to void my warranty by flashing custom roms
Have a look in the Desire HD Development section, there should be links there.
With custom you only loose warranty until you flash official again, then you have warranty again
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
Will I never gona learn English
ghazi chawla said:
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
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I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to that one.
ghazi chawla said:
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
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You are asking details that are not useful in anyway (ofc you can have all your interests to know it )....Like it has been said, don´t worry about OTA and stuffs...keep on visiting XDA and go on with one of the custom ROMs (best imo at the moment is ARHD2.0.9) you ll never miss HTCs ROM...
here is the link for all the ROMs though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824357
ghazi chawla said:
Actually my brother and me bought the unit together and he had the same system software as mine but he got an update and the update is not actually for arabic support only...It improves the performance and the battery life
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Yeah, I'm aware that the update (which is 37Mb or so) contains more than just Arabic language support, but what I'm saying is that the update was specifically rolled out for Arabic-locale phones.
My understanding is that it's the equivalent of the 1.72blahblahetc update for other phones.
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Just root guys then you will have all the updates you want.
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and how you do that . sorry but I dont know anything abt rooting...
also if i rooted my phone will i be able to receive all the updates like camera improvement, lag issue, better battery, less cpu usage etc etc... and form where i will get all of these updates like the originally way like setting>about phone> check updater or have to check any specific website for that. oh and also what are the cons for rooting.
Hello everyone! I own a desire hd and it's stock (soft. ver. 1.72.405.3), I must say I am ok with it that way but still I'm thinking of rooting it..
but I don't know much about that.. though I like it stock I understand there are some things it can do more...
first of all: what do I lose by rooting? the htc sense? the htc themes/ interface? the dolby surround and srs software?? see, I don't really want to return to the basic android and I like the custom htc interface..do I lose it??
second I heard about the official upgrade to 2.3 so I would be better to wait for that first?
by rooting I am mainly looking for overclocking..god, that's so cool!
so if someone can answer me the questions above, it would be great! also, if I decide to root which is the best way to do that, what programs do you recommend, is there a desire hd based ROM, and what should I do for overclocking?
thanks a lot!
First of all, your current software version cannot be rooted, you need to downgrade to an earlier version to root. You can root without installing custom roms, but most of the custom roms come with sence and all the htc additions
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Hi,
and welcome to XDA.
The software version of your Desire HD (DHD for short) is not possible to root. In order to overclock you will need to downgrade to an earlier version (1.32).
Once downgraded rooting becomes easy. The process of rooting will not break anything, including the stuff you've mentioned. However, there is an additional layer of protection that HTC employ to prevent you from bricking you DHD. This beast is known as S-ON (Security On). In order to make persistent changes to your DHD, such as custom HTC Sense ROM's you will need to disable this, achieving S-OFF. This will break Over The Air (OTA) Updates from HTC or your network/carrier.
Again this is pretty straight forward.
If you wish to flash a new Radio you will need to have ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF.
The guides posted below are not created by me, they are very good and information in them will overlap slightly.
To downgrade, read this guide carefully --> Downgrading to 1.32 - Guide By jkoljo
To root & apply ENG S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Rooting & Applying ENG S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
To apply Radio S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Applying Radio S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
Once you have done all the basics we can talk you through the rest.
Let us know how you get on.
hey! thank you both
so I want to know, beside this protection that has to be disabled, the phone will act normal, right? no performance loss?
and also, if i block the update, i won't be able to update to gingerbread?
are you satisfied with the phone rooted compared to the stock?
and i'm planning to move to UK, will I be able to use it in other carrier such as o2 since I've got mine from orange RO?
Thank you
Tib!
You are correct, your DHD will not behave any differently than if the protections were enabled.
The Official Gingerbread update from HTC is still quite a while away, and all of the custom ROM Dev's will include any changes into their ROM's. So don't feel like you will miss out if you root & apply S-OFF.
Yes, I am very happy with it rooted. I can over/under clock my CPU when the situation demands, block in-app ads system wide, perform full backups of my entire DHD. These are merely scratching the surface of what root access can enable.
As for you moving to the UK, once you perform Radio S-OFF using the guide and tool described above, your DHD will not be SIM Locked to a particular network/carrier.
sounds great then.. but: it will erase all the data on the phone, right? i will lose everything
secondly, I am concerned about the rest of the process.. i will root it but after that? I'm sure all the cool stuff isn't free but i don't have access to payed apps on market, just for free ones (this is what is available for Romania at the time..) so i'm afraid i will get stuck..
thanks
Downgrading will erase all data on your DHD.
Some, not all the cool stuff are paid app's.
For instance SetCPU, the app nearly everyone uses to overclock their handsets is a paid app. But for XDA members its free. You can find it here on XDA-Devs, its all above board and legit. Other apps such as Titanium Backup have a paid app version on the Market, but also allow you buy a donate key from within the app.
I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, there are hundreds of users here all willing to help if you do.
EDIT: You can find SetCPU --> HERE, obviously if you like it and can afford to, donate to the author.
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
tibrocks said:
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
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You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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ok, but please make clear: by rooting will i have a real froyo or future gingerbread or just sort of system that only acts like one of the two above?
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by rooting it allows you to change the stock ROM (HTC sense) on your phone to another custom ROM either based on Froyo or Gingerbread
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
) well i'm afraid too..
well, have you done rooting your dhd?
dr.m0x said:
You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
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And It's hard to Brick the Desire HD... And for your Gingerbread Concern, The Chef's here are aware of that.. Just be patience and they will Produce ROMS with Gingerbread on it.... Enjoy Rooting....
xuldigiorgio said:
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
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Your on the 1.32 software so routing will be a piece of cake.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
hi , ive been reading the guides and am really keen to root my dhd, was just about to start the process when i read that it wouldn't work with my branded dhd (vodaphone, australia) is this true? was hoping to go from 1.32.178.5 to 1.72.405.3 R2 is this possible using the stock to leedroid guide?
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
xuldigiorgio said:
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
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as far as I know, the branded ones show the logo of the company (ex Vodafone, T-mobile.. etc)
The whole thing is really confusing to me. I do have ENG S-OFF, and already flashed a Radio and some Roms. Is ENG S-OFF better than Radio S-OFF? Or what is the difference to it?
I read some threads about it and now I am really confused..
Kick me!
Hi,
I've had a look through the threads already and couldn't find anything that would've been of any use to me.
Anyways, I'm getting a DHD from my brother soon seeing as he's getting a contract upgrade in the next month but the problem si that it's locked on 3 and i'm on T-Mobile.
So, I was wondering, is there a simple and easy way to unlock the phone myself? The Samsung Galaxy S2 has an app that will generate an unlock code for it but I couldn't find anything similar for the DHD.
Would really appreciate the help
Thanks
5H1R42
Hi, and welcome to XDA.
There is a tool to SimUnlock your handset, you can find it here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9524174#post9524174
However, if the handset came with Gingerbread (2.3) then there is a chance that it can jam up your HBOOT and cause booting issues. However it is recoverable, so it might be worth running the SimUnlock then restoring your handset.
Hi,
Thanks for the help, i'll give it a shot when i can. The phone came with Android 2.2 and was then upgraded to Android 2.3 when it was released. Will this affect it?
5H1R42
No, that is good. You will need to downgrade to use this tool though.
Once that is done you shouldn't have any issues. Feel free to PM me if you need further help, or just post here.
I am new Samsung mobiles and I want to Know what is rooting , and how could it affects my experience with the tablet. Is it illegal? Can any one link me to a detailed explanation and benefits for rooting + detailed Steps on how to root ? Can this give me latest Software updates before its release ? would this decrease S-pen functionality ? Sorry for all that but I feel very Losted.
Another question , I have no carrier for my tablet does this prevent me From getting updates.