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[Q] Is it worth upgrading to the epic?

Hey guys i currently have a hero and i really wanna upgrade my phone to an epic because it's hardware and software specs are amazing. I noticed there are a lot of problems like the "rfs" filesystem but rooting can change that. Also i know 2.2 just came out. Basically what I'm asking is are you guys satisfied with your epic 4g? Will there be an official update for 2.3? I really don't see why not.
Oh, and i noticed there aren't too many dev's working on the Epic 4g as much as the Evo 4g. But the ROMs still look great and still looks promising.

worth it, the sheer number of devs dont seem to be as much as the evo, but the phone is badass, not perfect, but the consensus is it out performs the evo. 2.2 did just drop, no one knows about 2.3... but i love this phone

Definitly better than the hero imo. I upgraded from pre. Glad I did. Devs seem to do a realy good job even though there isn't as many of them

I would recommend an Evo Shift, if you want the keyboard. I've had an Evo, Epic, and now a Shift and its the best compromise between the Epic's slight speed advantage and slide-out kb and the Evo's higher quality hardware and better dev support (not to mention HTC seems better about supporting their phones).
Between Sprint's "Big 3" though, you can't go wrong. All great phones, just a question of taste.
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jtguf87 said:
I would recommend an Evo Shift, if you want the keyboard. I've had an Evo, Epic, and now a Shift and its the best compromise between the Epic's slight speed advantage and slide-out kb and the Evo's higher quality hardware and better dev support (not to mention HTC seems better about supporting their phones).
Between Sprint's "Big 3" though, you can't go wrong. All great phones, just a question of taste.
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ya, thats def true. Still i saw some reviews and everything about the Epic was better besides the support from Samsung and Devs

Tablet or upgrade from epic?

So as it stands right now, Sprint is getting the Nexus S 4G, HTC Evo 3D, and the Kyocera Echo. I'll be due for an upgrade in September. My birthday is in July, so I'll have enough money for a new device(turning 17). Now my question, when I get the money, should I keep it, and upgrade to a new phone in september, or spend it on a tablet? If I get a new phone, I'll start rooting my epic and messing around with it. If I get a tablet, which would probably be a Nook Color, I'll be rooting it and putting cm7 or honeycomb on it. In your opinions, what should I do?
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i would keep my money and just root my epic now...no need to buy something i can do right now...the same things the others can do the epic can too.. just with a smaller size that can fit in your pocket.. save your money and just root your epic...

txtmikhail said:
i would keep my money and just root my epic now...no need to buy something i can do right now...the same things the others can do the epic can too.. just with a smaller size that can fit in your pocket.. save your money and just root your epic...
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Thanks for the input, but I'm not rooting my current phone simply because too many people have problems after messing around, and I need a fully functional device. And on stock, I have no doubt it will do what I need it too, if rooted, I know I will doubt whether my phone is fully working right. I will never root a phone that I need to depend on. More opinions, please!
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I would recommend getting the htc evo3d. I am upgrading to it.
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raymond4 said:
I would recommend getting the htc evo3d. I am upgrading to it.
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Thanks, but any reason why? Right now, I'm leaning towards a Nook Color simply because i'd miss my epic's keyboard too much, and I will not sidegrade to a evo shift. Although, if sprint happens to get an Epic II with a keyboard, i'd probably get that over a nook color
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wat about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

txtmikhail said:
wat about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
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I'd like to have one! Lol but I'm 16, I don't get that kind of money, the most I've ever had at one time was just over $340, and that was for my epic.now the $250 + tax is much easier. So unless you wanna send me a 10.1 or an 8.9 for that matter, I'm gonna get a nook.
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zanderman112 said:
Thanks, but any reason why? Right now, I'm leaning towards a Nook Color simply because i'd miss my epic's keyboard too much, and I will not sidegrade to a evo shift. Although, if sprint happens to get an Epic II with a keyboard, i'd probably get that over a nook color
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Pros:
1.2 GHz Dual-Core, so it can run some new awesome games coming out
Larger (if that's a preference of yours, 4.3 inches)
Slick new Sense 3.0 (If you haven't seen a video of this; you'd love it!)
1080p Video 2D, 720p 3D!
Dual Cameras + Dual LED Flashes for great 3D pictures in 720p, 1080p 2D
Better Display (540x960)
HDMI Output (Great for videos, games, etc.)
It's not Samsung
Gingerbread 2.3.3
It'll be Sprint's new flagship device so expect frequent updates and a large community
Bigger Battery (1730 mAh)
Glasses-Free 3D
1.3 MP Front-Facing Camera!
4G
4 GB internal memory
Cons
No Slide
8 GB SD card but upgradable to 16 and 32 GB
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Yeah...If I were you I'd definitely get the EVO 3D. Tablets are nice and all, but I'd wait a bit. They're still a bit new, and Honeycomb isn't perfect yet. I say wait until your next update when you're going to be going off to college and you'll have a great tablet to start your year.
Hope this helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g

acer1096xxx said:
Pros:
1.2 GHz Dual-Core, so it can run some new awesome games coming out
Larger (if that's a preference of yours, 4.3 inches)
Slick new Sense 3.0 (If you haven't seen a video of this; you'd love it!)
1080p Video 2D, 720p 3D!
Dual Cameras + Dual LED Flashes for great 3D pictures in 720p, 1080p 2D
Better Display (540x960)
HDMI Output (Great for videos, games, etc.)
It's not Samsung
Gingerbread 2.3.3
It'll be Sprint's new flagship device so expect frequent updates and a large community
Bigger Battery (1730 mAh)
Glasses-Free 3D
1.3 MP Front-Facing Camera!
4G
4 GB internal memory
Cons
No Slide
8 GB SD card but upgradable to 16 and 32 GB
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Yeah...If I were you I'd definitely get the EVO 3D. Tablets are nice and all, but I'd wait a bit. They're still a bit new, and Honeycomb isn't perfect yet. I say wait until your next update when you're going to be going off to college and you'll have a great tablet to start your year.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
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Lol thanks for posting the specs and video, I mean it, but I've already seen all that. I do like some elements of sense 3.0, 3d seems like a gimmick to me, although the camera(s) are cool. Dual cores are nice, but not really supported by android(yet) I'm not trying to take anything away from the evo 3d, its a nice phone, but honestly, I feel that, for now, my epic is fast enough for everything I do with it.
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zanderman112 said:
Lol thanks for posting the specs and video, I mean it, but I've already seen all that. I do like some elements of sense 3.0, 3d seems like a gimmick to me, although the camera(s) are cool. Dual cores are nice, but not really supported by android(yet) I'm not trying to take anything away from the evo 3d, its a nice phone, but honestly, I feel that, for now, my epic is fast enough for everything I do with it.
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I see what you mean. Like your phones good enough to last you for quite some time so why not get a tablet with all these cool features and stuff?
Yeah if you're looking at it that way, then sure, get a tablet if you're not going with the EVO 3D, then a tablet should be your choice.
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acer1096xxx said:
I see what you mean. Like your phones good enough to last you for quite some time so why not get a tablet with all these cool features and stuff?
Yeah if you're looking at it that way, then sure, get a tablet if you're not going with the EVO 3D, then a tablet should be your choice.
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K, it also depends on other things that can't be determined yet. Like, if my phone breaks somehow. But, if my phone runs the same way it does now, then, then I think imma buy and start hackerifying a helpless nook color. But, I think its been made pretty clear that the best of the 3 new phones is the evo 3d(or at least the favorite of the 3)
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I would get the evo view 4g tablet when it comes out this summer it looks bad ass.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
I would get the evo view 4g tablet when it comes out this summer it looks bad ass.
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I'm not quite sure about it, has pricing been announced for it?
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zanderman112 said:
Lol thanks for posting the specs and video, I mean it, but I've already seen all that. I do like some elements of sense 3.0, 3d seems like a gimmick to me, although the camera(s) are cool. Dual cores are nice, but not really supported by android(yet) I'm not trying to take anything away from the evo 3d, its a nice phone, but honestly, I feel that, for now, my epic is fast enough for everything I do with it.
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Soooo....what is your question? If you're not interested in the 3d...are you looking at either the echo or the nexus then? Scratch the echo and do the nexus if you're looking at getting a phone. Otherwise go tablet. Spec wise the 3d is obviously the better phone but if nothing about that impresses you then I'm not sure what you're wanting.
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Quis89 said:
Soooo....what is your question? If you're not interested in the 3d...are you looking at either the echo or the nexus then? Scratch the echo and do the nexus if you're looking at getting a phone. Otherwise go tablet. Spec wise the 3d is obviously the better phone but if nothing about that impresses you then I'm not sure what you're wanting.
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Throughout the process of this thread, and its copy in the nook section, i have leaned a little towards a tablet since i could have a phone and tablet, the tablet which i would start hacking since ive never done that to my epic. Whereas, if i got an upgrade to a newer phone, i would have one current phone and the epic which i would then start hacking, but wouldnt use because of battery. The epic/tablet combo seems better to me than new phone/old phone combo.
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zanderman112 said:
Throughout the process of this thread, and its copy in the nook section, i have leaned a little towards a tablet since i could have a phone and tablet, the tablet which i would start hacking since ive never done that to my epic. Whereas, if i got an upgrade to a newer phone, i would have one current phone and the epic which i would then start hacking, but wouldnt use because of battery. The epic/tablet combo seems better to me than new phone/old phone combo.
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Wait, I'm confused... you want to hack the epic, but not use it? And yes, personally I would do a tablet and a phone, and intend to do so. Currently I rock the Epic as well as my iTouch 3G. Unfortunately, they serve many of the same functionalities, and I now find my once fantastic iTouch underused less than a year after buying it.
On the other hand, I would much love a tablet I could tether to my Epic, as the larger interface offers a much more satisfying experience when handling emails and documents, among many other tasks. That said, my iTouch is still my favorite music player, despite it's days as a PDA being numbered, and I intend to continue to use my Epic for God-knows-what after I finally upgrade from it. I hate abandoning perfectly functional relatively-up-to-date devices.
I am well aware that you have no desire to root your Epic while it's your primary device, I would suggest trying it and finding an older, stable version of one of the many custom roms out there. The battery life is drastically improved, I can make it last for up to 2 days with light use these days thanks to SyndicateFrozen. That said, my vote is towards the Phone/Tablet combo rather than a newer though barely different phone.

abrcrmdl23 said:
I would get the evo view 4g tablet when it comes out this summer it looks bad ass.
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I don't see how a tablet running an outdated OS not even intended for tablets, thats only redeeming quality is a stylus could be "bad ass"...

zanderman112 said:
Throughout the process of this thread, and its copy in the nook section, i have leaned a little towards a tablet since i could have a phone and tablet, the tablet which i would start hacking since ive never done that to my epic. Whereas, if i got an upgrade to a newer phone, i would have one current phone and the epic which i would then start hacking, but wouldnt use because of battery. The epic/tablet combo seems better to me than new phone/old phone combo.
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I agree. The phone/tablet combo is definitely the better option. I plan on going that route. I've already got the epic and an ipad2 but I'd like to get a honeycomb tablet as well. Preferably an HTC model with the new Sense launcher. Although the Blackberry Playbook is looking nice too.
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RandomKing said:
Wait, I'm confused... you want to hack the epic, but not use it?
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What I'm saying is that if I got a new phone instead of a tablet,I would just start messing with the epic, but because it wouldn't have battery life to be a secondary device like a tablet would, it would eventually end up in its box.
RandomKing said:
I hate abandoning perfectly functional relatively-up-to-date devices.
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Exactly what my thought are
RandomKing said:
I am well aware that you have no desire to root your Epic while it's your primary device, I would suggest trying it and finding an older, stable version of one of the many custom roms out there. The battery life is drastically improved, I can make it last for up to 2 days with light use these days thanks to SyndicateFrozen. That said, my vote is towards the Phone/Tablet combo rather than a newer though barely different phone.
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Thanks for suggesting.
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Quis89 said:
I agree. The phone/tablet combo is definitely the better option. I plan on going that route. I've already got the epic and an ipad2 but I'd like to get a honeycomb tablet as well. Preferably an HTC model with the new Sense launcher. Although the Blackberry Playbook is looking nice too.
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K, thanks for the input.
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EVO For An Epic????

Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???

jm5503 said:
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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I would advise against it. My fiancee has an Epic Fail...and she hates it. It locks up all the time and the SMS goes out of order. The battery is horrid. The worst ones are those that came stock with 2.1 and later upgraded to 2.2. They lock up all the time.
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teejaymarx said:
I would advise against it. My fiancee has an Epic Fail...and she hates it. It locks up all the time and the SMS goes out of order. The battery is horrid. The worst ones are those that came stock with 2.1 and later upgraded to 2.2. They lock up all the time.
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Tee Jay
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Thx.....anyone else????

The epic to me is old news already I have only seen one in my life time but with the addition of added bulk and a far less dev support I say stick with the evo
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The epic has been old news for a while now sadly. I used it for a week and hated it. I was so happy when I went to the Evo. I'm excited to see how the 3D compares to the original, although I am sure that the 3D will blow it away. You should either wait for the 3D or the GSII

bought the Epic on opening day and quickly regreted it. enough said, if you want new hardware go with the 3D. I will be staying HTC for a while to come..

epic
better screen colors
far better wifi speed..this is significant if you have a connection over 15Mb
better battery life using bonsai
keyboard if you need that (the slider is kinda soft though)
feels like a toy, due to all the plastic
buttons get a tad soft
evo wins
larger screen
better build quality
better dev support--big plus
battery life sucks
data connections seem about the same to me
I have them both sitting here, two separate account

My first recommendation would be to decide if you want a physical keyboard or not.
They add a lot of bulk and take space that can house other/faster components. I would never go back to a physical keyboard. I would rather a smaller/lighter phone with more screen real estate and a slimmer profile.
...however some ppl (my wife for example) miss the physical keyboard greatly which would change things...
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I had a Samsung vibrant, basically an epic without a keyboard. I hated it. Too much lag, bad GPS...good screen and huge internal storage were the only good things. Switched to sprint and the evo and haven't looked back
We're comin from a pure power source.

You'd hate it as much as I did.
The Epic feels very fat compared to the Evo. The slider is constantly trying to open when you don't want it to. Touchwiz is not as nice as Sense (if you're keeping them somewhat stock). The colors on the Epic, especially reds and oranges, seem way overboosted and unnatural on the Epic, and when watching movies on it, I could see a "screen door" type of thing on it.
I only had an Epic because I sent my Evo in for repairs (and opted out of Sprint's insurance). I had it for a week, and was REALLY happy to return it.

Evo to Epic
I wouldn't do it, I had an Epic and 1) nowhere as big as a developer/user base than for the Evo. 2) The LCD is nice but IMO the battery on Epic is less than that of the Evo. 3) the camera on my Epic just straight up died for a no reason after the 2.2 after was applied and would cease to ever work again. (google it, "camera failed to start samsung epic).
Keep the Evo!

I agree with the other posts. The epic adds too much bulk just for a keyboard which has low quality buttons and could better utilize this space for more and better hardware. Plus the Dev support is substantially less. Stick with the evo, it is much better
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jm5503 said:
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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Don't do it...My wifey has a epic and she gets mad when I show her all the kool roms I have on my phone lol...Now she vowes to never get any phone unless I get it first lol...

had to choose between the two recently, maybe this will help.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/evolution-vs-revolution/
regards,
asmd.

Thx guys.....

jm5503 said:
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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lol good luck getting CM7 or any custom rom to run on the Epic.

Lol....I know that's the only thing that is stopping me from doing the trade.....

Yeah and my wife also has the Epic. I get far better battery life than she does. We both leave work at the same time, and at the end of the day her phone is usually dead on the way home and I still have 30-40% left.

EVO For An Epic
I have both phones, and I think I am about to reiterate what a few people have said before. The epic does have a few things going for it, but I believe the user experience and SUPPORT are just way better for the evo. I took my evo back from my ex a week ago and it has been in my pocket way more than my epic. For a phone sprint likes to push as one of their top phones, the epic just doesn't have the support it needs from samsung. Long story short, stick with HTC.

The epic is Not a step forward. They are from the same generation of smartphones.
If you really want a keyboard, then you will want a Evo Shift.
Stick with the Evo... at least til you can get a 3d or whatever else is coming down the pipes. with the new GB update and all the new 3.0 roms out there, the Evo will have a nice new jolt of life.

[Q] Why is it the HTC gets all of the development love.

The Samsung Epic is better than the EVO hardware wise in every way except of the HDMI port. Why are developers turned off with the Epic? Is it because of the lack of source code for the hardware drivers? Is it because we have a smaller community so their is not much profit for developers? Is it because of the backlash of the Samsung Moment? Or is it because EVO came out with a phone that needed much improvement so developers have a better market in the EVO section? Or maybe Evo users are more tech savay than Epic users? I believe if all the developers can get cyanogenmod working for the Epic I believe this will turn the tide. If have seen a lot of post were people are leaving the Epic because the HTC devices have more rom variety. This Samsung Epic is a great phone the reason I purchased mine because it is a solid phone. We some great developers we have a few but they are very good. In my opinion cyanogenmod will open the door for all different kinds of Roms and not just Touchwiz based roms. I want to thank the developers who are currently working on cyanogenmod it is a lot of hard work I just wish you guys had more help. I believe this would be a great time for the developers to come together and see if they can get cyanogenmod 7 working since there won't be much rom action until the source code for the official gingerbread hits.

i Believe they pick most of the time because of marketing as you can tell sprint marketed the hell out of the Evo... i've seen maybe 4 Epic commercial in total...

Evo was the first 4g phone. Also much more advertisement. Sprints flagship. Attracted much more customers. Yes the epic is better but sprint hyped up the evo much much more therefore creating a larger population of evo owners vs epic owners

Because they have been around forever, this site was built around htc phones...
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That's is what I thought. If you look at the Evo forums they have more viewers than the Epic. So I guess because they have a larger population that is why they get more love. Do you believe if we got CM7 that will change anything in terms of development for the Samsung Epic?

Not really I mean shells yes it would mean alot for us ... but as far as getting newer developers I doubt it sadly. They'll probably get something else now with dual cores all over the place
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How is the Samsung Epic different from the Vibrant beside the Keyboard and the the cellphone carrier?
The Vibrant's community is just a little be larger than ours but yet they already have cm7 working. Can our developers be humble and ask their developers for some help. Maybe they can PM them or something. The more Samsung device that get developed the better it is for Samsung. The Evo advantage is their development community. Once that is gone they will be forced to produce better phones.
Ok, I think I answered my own question. The Vibrant and the Captivate are GMS phone so why are GMS phone easier to develop than CDMA phones. Also can we use their code for the camera, bluetooth and gps to get ours to work? I don't know anything I am just asking questions so I can learn.

I agree entirely. I actually came from an Evo. Great phone, but I needed a keyboard.
So far the Epic is a better experience, and it's pretty fun finally using Touchwiz, even though it's a slimmed down version of it (sad face, I wanted the puzzle lock)
I can say, that the Evo does have better development. I lost count of how many different roms I would use on that thing. And they're still getting better, especially those newer Sense ports.
And here? I've had it for like two months and all I've tried is EE03 Swiss Cheese, which I ended up taking off because of how terrible the lag was, and the one I'm currently on. Simply AOSP, but with the Gingerbread launcher for a close to stock gingerbread.
That's about it. All these roms are boring. And they don't look too great.
I hope CM7 gets finished soon, tried to use it and it got stuck on the Samsung screen.

erikkWTF said:
I agree entirely. I actually came from an Evo. Great phone, but I needed a keyboard.
So far the Epic is a better experience, and it's pretty fun finally using Touchwiz, even though it's a slimmed down version of it (sad face, I wanted the puzzle lock)
I can say, that the Evo does have better development. I lost count of how many different roms I would use on that thing. And they're still getting better, especially those newer Sense ports.
And here? I've had it for like two months and all I've tried is EE03 Swiss Cheese, which I ended up taking off because of how terrible the lag was, and the one I'm currently on. Simply AOSP, but with the Gingerbread launcher for a close to stock gingerbread.
That's about it. All these roms are boring. And they don't look too great.
I hope CM7 gets finished soon, tried to use it and it got stuck on the Samsung screen.
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If you want a positive gingerbread experience try the anonymous rom. I am on version 5 I tried 6 but version 5 had better battery life for me.

jamice4u said:
How is the Samsung Epic different from the Vibrant beside the Keyboard and the the cellphone carrier?
The Vibrant's community is just a little be larger than ours but yet they already have cm7 working. Can our developers be humble and ask their developers for some help. Maybe they can PM them or something. The more Samsung device that get developed the better it is for Samsung. The Evo advantage is their development community. Once that is gone they will be forced to produce better phones.
Ok, I think I answered my own question. The Vibrant and the Captivate are GMS phone so why are GMS phone easier to develop than CDMA phones. Also can we use their code for the camera, bluetooth and gps to get ours to work? I don't know anything I am just asking questions so I can learn.
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Th reson the vibrant has working cm7 is because that phone is the same as the international i9000 so everything the i9000 gets is easly ported over to the vibrant. And the interantional i9000 has had a gingerbread sourse code for a minute.
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jamice4u said:
If you want a positive gingerbread experience try the anonymous rom. I am on version 5 I tried 6 but version 5 had better battery life for me.
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+10000 I'm running v6 and it runs extremely well.
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There is the puzzle lock for the epic look at apps and themes maddoggins 6 lock mod
erikkWTF said:
So far the Epic is a better experience, and it's pretty fun finally using Touchwiz, even though it's a slimmed down version of it (sad face, I wanted the puzzle lock)
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The reason the devolopment is better and everyone thinks evo is better than epic because the EVO was marketed the hell out of. It was first 4G phone and had biggest screen at the time. Sprint advertised this thing everywhere! Epic hasn't been advertised not once! They advertised the EVO shift over the Epic! That's why they are more devs in evo devolopment. But people don't understand epic is better hardware wise. Epic screen compared to EVO, evo looks like complete shi*! We have a keyboard. I believe our processor runs smoother and faster than theirs. Camera is amazing! Evo is just way too big, 4in is good enough! There's more comparisons, but people don't get that because the media fooled them.
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The Evo has better development because of three things:
1.Popularity, the more people who buy a device the more developers there are available and the more demand for features. That's why Cyanogen himself helped with the port to the Evo.
2. Hardware, the Evo was the first device on Sprint with some truly top-tier hardware, not to mention the first 4.3inch Android device, HDMI out,and a FFC.
3. Hardware similarities to the Nexus 1, providing a code base to work off of along with a timely update to Froyo.

I read the Samsung gave one of the Cyangonmod developers a Galaxy S 2 to play with.
It seems like Cyangonmod will be coming to the Galaxy S 2 phones.
Here is the source.
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyano...anks-samsung?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

Preach, my fellow Epic brotha.

What phone is worth trading your Epic for?

I was just wondering what phones are better than the Epic because I honestly can't find one better lol.
I see qbking77 traded his Epic but I can't find proof that Nexus S 4G is remotely close to being better than the Epic.
We may have the best smartphone on the market or am I just crazy!
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The plus for the nexus s, atleast from what I can tell looking from the outside looking in, is it has a more active dev community. And don't get me wrong I am in no way shape or form putting down our magnificent epic devs
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Id get the nexus if I had the chance yes I love my epic still think its the best on the market right now but the nexus would be a change up and the dev community is blowing up its making it hard not to switch seeing how my epic can't even get a legit gingerbread release
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SocialReject said:
I was just wondering what phones are better than the Epic because I honestly can't find one better lol.
I see qbking77 traded his Epic but I can't find proof that Nexus S 4G is remotely close to being better than the Epic.
We may have the best smartphone on the market or am I just crazy!
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For Sprint: Nexus S for Rom enthusiasts, Photon for international travelers
For AT&T: Nexus S for Rom enthusiasts, Infuse for its SuperAmoled plus display
For Verizon: Droid charge for SuperAmoled plus display and LTE, Droid Incredible 2 for international travelers
For T-Mobile: Nexus S for Rom enthusiasts

Sprintsung Touch 4G aka Within.

Interesting question. I'm awaiting a replacement Epic, but the tech offered a Nexus instead. Maybe I made a mistake.. could have been a nice transition to the Epic touch.
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Good question. For me, it will be hard to leave the physical keyboard. I love our Rom developers also, but I wish that there were more though.

jworkcoo said:
Good question. For me, it will be hard to leave the physical keyboard. I love our Rom developers also, but I wish that there were more though.
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Same here with the keyboard, I come from a long line of qwerty phones. It would be an adjustment, but id sure welcome a nexus s.
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I would consider the EVO 3D, Photon, or the Nexus S 4G at this point. I've actually been using a loaner NS4G for a couple weeks and while I do like it, I feel it has a few shortcomings. Most of them I was aware of beforehand though.
I miss the LED light to indicate when there's a missed call/text etc. You can bypass this with getting a special kernel which can allow you to activate the backlights for the capacitive buttons, but under flourescent lighting at work its sometimes hard to spot that.
Also there's no SD card so you are stuck with the 16gb of internal memory. Not necessarily a huge issue but for some people it could be a problem.
Samsprint already issued an update to fix wonky reception with their radios. It sorta helped mine out but it still doesn't seem to match what I was getting with the Epic. That goes for 3G, 4G, and wifi. Kind of a bummer actually and this is what sours me the most on the phone.
I haven't actually seen a Photon yet but after reading one of the threads here on the Epic forum about it, I would love to try it out. It sounds like the battery life (with moderate to heavy usage) is amazing. The only way I get decent battery life with the Epic is to turn it into a dumb phone.
The EVO 3D was actually a lot more impressive than I thought it would be. The 3D can cause a headache at first but once you find the sweetspot the 3D pictures and videos look amazing. It blew me away. My coworker has one after upgrading from the first EVO and he gets better battery life with it and he has the same apps and same usage patterns. So it is very tempting.
All in all there are a lot of good phones out there and its just a matter of preference and what you are looking for in a phone.

I'm going to have to recommend the EVO 3d. I was first concern about the lack of keyboard, cause I came form a long line of quarty keyboard phones. After the first week I no longer think about missing a keyboard. As far as the screen goes, the Epic is brighter. But the 3D is far more sharper and crisp. Sense 3.0 is a far better launcher then touch wiz or any other launcher currently in the market. Battery life on the 3D is 100% better then the Epic. Boy how good it is to, not have to worry about finding a AC outlet.

I would say just about any.
I am an htc fanboy so I would have to vote for evo3d which I have now. Even the original EVO 4G was a way better phone than the epic. Has it ever received the gingerbread update?
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I went from 5 months on the Epic, had an Evo temporarily, and now Nexus S. The Nexus is by far my favorite, I plan on staying with a Nexus from here on. There ar things I miss about the Epic, but having a phone that you can do anything with is worth giving those things up. The Nexus flies stock, and you can run MIUI, CM7, stock, modified stock, the devs are close to porting Sense, and if you want they have tw4 available. I am using a modified stock rom right now and love it.

sand1303 said:
I would say just about any.
Really?
I am an htc fanboy so I would have to vote for evo3d which I have now. Even the original EVO 4G was a way better phone than the epic. Has it ever received the gingerbread update?
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Really? You think the original evo was better than the epic? I had one and really didn't like it at all. Battery life was not as good and after a while it really started lagging with anything. When comparing to games on your phone the epic absolutely crushes the evo in my opinion. I'll also never be able to go back to a basic LCD again. The super amoled has me forever ...

I had the epic but bought the evo 3d. I loved the epic! But its no more longer the best on the market. It has a single core, all the phones now have a dual core. I love the qwerty keyboard on the epic! i miss it so much! If samsung made a 1.2ghz dual core, super amoled plus screen, qwerty kb, better software. Id deff buy that phone in aheartbeat. Love the epic. It deff was one of the best phones out. Best single core! Its so underrated tho! They never advertised it, it was never in the media. Thats why everyone thinks evo 4f is better than the epic bc sprint practically sponsored it! Epic never made it to the media! I'm now an owner of the evo 3d only for the devolopment, and love it!
-3D EVO-

Yes someguy, I think overall the EVO was way better than the epic. I never really play games on my phone so i can't compare that part of it but as far as running wise my EVO was always super smooth. I played with one or two epics and noticed lags here and there. I love sense so UI to me is totally more appealing than Samsung UI. Lots of people loved the epic but look at the support it got for gingerbread. Everyone has personal favorites though.
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It sure is hard to even look at a non samoled phone after this thing. Can't even see my wifes htc screen. It looks like a backlit coaster.
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Etrick said:
It sure is hard to even look at a non samoled phone after this thing. Can't even see my wifes htc screen. It looks like a backlit coaster.
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I find my wife to be a good judge of things a non technophile. She bought a charge because all the other ones looked like ****. SAMOLED isn't some weird dreamworld. This is how displays should be built. It makes me sad that people will side against the thing they look at 99% of the time.

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I find my wife to be a good judge of things a non technophile. She bought a charge because all the other ones looked like ****. SAMOLED isn't some weird dreamworld. This is how displays should be built. It makes me sad that people will side against the thing they look at 99% of the time.
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Same here, although wife knows how to flash cm, she always makes me do it.
But the samoled is gross. I hated samsung. Would never buy their stuff. Phone died and it was the only decent phone in town in stock for sprint. So I got it. Fell in love as soon as this thing booted to the desert rocks... omg its so sick. I love the black blacks but god colors look gorgeous. Nothing compares.
That new samoled ur chic has is REALLY GROSS. My buddy has it. God its nasty. Wonder how the new lg screen compares...
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i want that new motorola dual core or the lg dual core

Don't get the EVO 3D.
Users experiencing screen problems who never rooted.
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