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I used andorid thought its one of the Best but want to try WP&? Is there a way like ihone to jailbreak and get apps for free paid ones. Also what are the main disadvantages and advantages?
Thanks
Careful about getting free paid apps - a lot of people here are developers that depend on buyers. But the nice thing about WP7 is that a lot of apps/games have ad supported versions.
This discussion (Android vs. WP7) came up on my blog yesterday.
http://www.m-arcade.com/1/post/2011/03/hardware-htc-arrive-vs-samsung-focus-initial-impressions.html
Start in the second to last comment at the bottom of the page for context, and the response.
thnak swhat do you think about ti is it worth it also is it worth getting htc 7 trophy? What about custom roms any? good ones?
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thnak swhat do you think about ti is it worth it also is it worth getting htc 7 trophy? What about custom roms any? good ones?
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No offense, but you're a god damn idiot.
you will get banned from this forum if you discuss getting paid apps for free. That's called warez and is illegal.
As far as comparing the two platforms, here is a basic rundown:
Things in WP7 that are better than Android
*smoother interface with cool animations
*facebook integration into the OS and people hub
*cool hubs that are well integrated and easy to access
*live tiles that update frequently with information
Things in Android that are better than WP7
*you can change the UI to anything you want (including very close approximations of WP7)
*more apps and better free apps/games
*music streaming apps like Pandora and Slacker
*3rd party multi-tasking (listen to Pandora or use messaging apps while doing other things)
*WiFi tethering
*change keyboards (HTC, AOSP, Swype, and many many more)
*much much better facebook app
*saved camera settings
*front facing cameras and video chat
*4G device for every network
*Widgets that you can add to your homescreen that give you information or do cool things.
*Flash support in browser (I was streaming NCAA games this past weekend on my phone)
*folders for apps
*much more development community
*dual-core CPUs on one device and more coming with 1080p HDMI output and other fun goodies.
*ability to mount USB storage
I'm sure I left out some things on both platforms. As you can see my comparison favors Android big time and I would suggest you will be happier with an Android phone. On GSM I'd recommend a Nexus S or a MyTouch4G or wait for a dual-core phone. On CDMA I'd wait for an Evo 3D.
Does Windows not have flash?
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Does Windows not have flash?
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no, WP7 does not support flash.
orangekid said:
you will get banned from this forum if you discuss getting paid apps for free. That's called warez and is illegal.
As far as comparing the two platforms, here is a basic rundown:
Things in WP7 that are better than Android
*smoother interface with cool animations
*facebook integration into the OS and people hub
*cool hubs that are well integrated and easy to access
*live tiles that update frequently with information
****Extremely fast and smooth - it just works
Things in Android that are better than WP7
*you can change the UI to anything you want (including very close approximations of WP7)
*more apps and better free apps/games
*music streaming apps like Pandora and Slacker
*3rd party multi-tasking (listen to Pandora or use messaging apps while doing other things)
*WiFi tethering
*change keyboards (HTC, AOSP, Swype, and many many more)
*much much better facebook app
*saved camera settings
*front facing cameras and video chat
*4G device for every network
*Widgets that you can add to your homescreen that give you information or do cool things.
*Flash support in browser (I was streaming NCAA games this past weekend on my phone)
*folders for apps
*much more development community
*dual-core CPUs on one device and more coming with 1080p HDMI output and other fun goodies.
*ability to mount USB storage
******Buggy, slow, needs constant reboots, widgets dont work, crashes and gets virus
I'm sure I left out some things on both platforms. As you can see my comparison favors Android big time and I would suggest you will be happier with an Android phone. On GSM I'd recommend a Nexus S or a MyTouch4G or wait for a dual-core phone. On CDMA I'd wait for an Evo 3D.
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I added one to each. Personal reason for leaving the epic and buying the arrive.
Don't hold shift while pressing "7" key.
Several points cannot agree:
Things in WP7 that are better than Android
+Not only interface, but also games, apps. Better responsiveness in general
+Better battery life
+I like the camera app better than the Android stock
Things in Android that are better than WP7
-Currently Android launchers are far from similar to the real Metro UI
-There are more free games and apps, and paid apps are in general cheaper, but the quality isn't great
-Widgets actually cannot do cool things... They look like the widgets on your Windows Desktop however, Android widgets don't have any interactive feature. You cannot type anything into the textbox, you touch the textbox then the app launches.
And to OP, I think WP7 is not for you.
orangekid said:
you will get banned from this forum if you discuss getting paid apps for free. That's called warez and is illegal.
As far as comparing the two platforms, here is a basic rundown:
Things in WP7 that are better than Android
*smoother interface with cool animations
*facebook integration into the OS and people hub
*cool hubs that are well integrated and easy to access
*live tiles that update frequently with information
Things in Android that are better than WP7
*you can change the UI to anything you want (including very close approximations of WP7)
*more apps and better free apps/games
*music streaming apps like Pandora and Slacker
*3rd party multi-tasking (listen to Pandora or use messaging apps while doing other things)
*WiFi tethering
*change keyboards (HTC, AOSP, Swype, and many many more)
*much much better facebook app
*saved camera settings
*front facing cameras and video chat
*4G device for every network
*Widgets that you can add to your homescreen that give you information or do cool things.
*Flash support in browser (I was streaming NCAA games this past weekend on my phone)
*folders for apps
*much more development community
*dual-core CPUs on one device and more coming with 1080p HDMI output and other fun goodies.
*ability to mount USB storage
I'm sure I left out some things on both platforms. As you can see my comparison favors Android big time and I would suggest you will be happier with an Android phone. On GSM I'd recommend a Nexus S or a MyTouch4G or wait for a dual-core phone. On CDMA I'd wait for an Evo 3D.
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*facebook integration into the OS and people hub
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i've seen several people mention this 'facebook integration into the OS' thing- what does it mean though ? i know iphone has facebook apps, as does android. or, (gasp) just navigate to facebook's mobile site, and enjoy less mess.
so, what is this deep integration all about ?
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i've seen several people mention this 'facebook integration into the OS' thing- what does it mean though ? i know iphone has facebook apps, as does android. or, (gasp) just navigate to facebook's mobile site, and enjoy less mess.
so, what is this deep integration all about ?
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so like apple and android, windows phone also has a dedicated facebook application. what apple and android (with the exception of OEMs layering this in) is integrated facebook. what this does is combines your contacts with facebook so that it appears as one massive contact list. you can then link contacts to their facebook account (the phone does it for what it can match up in terms of names, and the rest you can manually link). the idea around this is that instead of having to go into facebook app, find the person, and see what they're doing, you merely click on them in the people's hub (your contact list) and there is a pivot which has "what's new".
this will eventually have twitter as well.
This works not only for contacts, but also for photos, you can view your friends' photos in the Pictures hub. Basically, unless you are a hardcore Facebook user, the OS handles everything you need. I wouldn't use Facebook any other way, at least not frequently.
Even more importantly, you get access to other networks via Windows Live. I am not a social network junkie, but LinkedIn is very useful.
andoridkiller said:
I used andorid thought its one of the Best but want to try WP&? Is there a way like ihone to jailbreak and get apps for free paid ones. Also what are the main disadvantages and advantages?
Thanks
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How did I miss this.....
First of all, starting a thread asking whether Android is better than WP7 (or vice versa) is never going to get you anywhere..........
You could have answered all these questions by simply reading the first few threads in this section.
Asking about warez on XDA is just not a good idea as it is illegal and strictly against the forum rules.......
Thread closed. (Better late than never)
MiX2011(12-14.04)-Will There Be Any New"additions" to wp7 ANOTHER UPDATE BEFORE MANGO
The MiX conference is just around the corner and i thought that it would be interesting to see what the users think, hope, want software vise.....
On the other hand, maybe a new handset will be revealed or the new minimum requirements...
With certainty new api's will be introduced...
My hope is for another update in june-july...
The things I would like to see in this order:
#1 Open up APIs that use address book which will open the door for whatsapp and skype.
#2 Bug fixes.
#3 An improved way of delivering updates.
#4 More new features.
I expect announcements of other upcoming features which have not yet been announced.
I fully expect some of the API's to be opened up to developers.
Maybe an announcement of a smaller update which will come out before Mango.
I don't expect any phone announcements, but maybe some Nokia teasers? That would be pretty cool.
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The things I would like to see in this order:
#1 Open up APIs that use address book which will open the door for whatsapp and skype.
#2 Bug fixes.
#3 An improved way of delivering updates.
#4 More new features.
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I made a bit of a list myself. Well, it's kind of large: http://n8ter.wordpress.com
Skype is a bit meh for me.
There is more to gain by developing a good Windows Live Messenger integration with VoIP and Video Calling, in addition to Facebook Chat and Integrated Presence information in the People Hub. Add in Push Notifications, Group Chat, and File Transfer from the Office/Picture Hubs and it would be just perfect.
They need to add Tasks to Hotmail and add Task Synchronization to WP7's ActiveSync support.
The rest is in the link above. Don't want to bloat up the thread listing all my thoughts...
IE9 needs to be pushed out the minute it's done. Just upgrading IE would be considered a ridiculously big update to many users, and seriously... It would make tons of websites either usable, or much much easier to use.
A Basic RSS Reader integrated into the Platform (with configurable polling times and notifications on new items) would be nice. However, Windows Live allows you to subscribe to Blogs from there, so maybe that serves that purpose and you can just get this form people HUB.
They need to make Facebook Pushed, IMO. And add support for giving Push Notifications adn a counter on the People Hub tile when you get a new Direct Message/Facebook Message/Mention. Perhaps they can roll out Twitter support early.
I think it's pretty bad that they're holding back so much for one big update. I wonder how many people at Microsoft are actually closet iOS/Android users. They don't seem to be clued in much with the way they're iterating on the platform.
I expect nothing new so that I don't get disappointed again.
My wish list:
- ful Skydrive integration so all office documents can be synced
- Twitter integration in the people hub
- some way to allow zune streaming music and video not only to the XBox but to the WP7 devices as well
New apis like above said to make whatsapp available, youtube embedded vids working properly on all regions, bing maps merged with ovi so i can actually use maps, skydrive for office, taskswitcher and facebook im/private messages integerated in messaging app (a pivot next to sms would be cool) and people hub. Ill be a more than happy guy, will be all i need
Interesting if they will show anything we don't already know there.
Talks about NoDo and more Mango previews. Maybe a mention of some API, maybe, and that is all. Any bets?
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I made a bit of a list myself. Well, it's kind of large: http://n8ter.wordpress.com
There is more to gain by developing a good Windows Live Messenger integration with VoIP and Video Calling, in addition to Facebook Chat and Integrated Presence information in the People Hub. Add in Push Notifications, Group Chat, and File Transfer from the Office/Picture Hubs and it would be just perfect.
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One of the few times we agree 100%. MSN Messenger by Miyowa is not good enough. If MSN Messenger was as feature-rich as you described I would buy a WP7 phone tomorrow.
If there are no new APIs I will be very surprised. And if there aren't, as much as I love my Omnia7, I'm picking up an Xperia Play the very next day. I can understand not having some functionality, but not providing APIs to developers is just plain stupid.
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blade0rz said:
if there are no new apis i will be very surprised. And if there aren't, as much as i love my omnia7, i'm picking up an xperia play the very next day. I can understand not having some functionality, but not providing apis to developers is just plain stupid.
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Yep, the lack of functionality isn't what stinks. Developers can develop apps to fill those voids.
What stinks is the API blackholes in the platform. That pretty much makes this functionally is impossible to implement at the moment, and there is nothing you or any non-OEM/Microsoft developer can do about it.
You guys shouldn't really expect much in the way of new features. MIX is where the development platform was unveiled last year, I imagine any announcements will be centered around that.
I'm expecting a focus on IE9, hopefully some additional APIs like sockets (which they said has been the #1 request from developers).
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Talks about NoDo and more Mango previews. Maybe a mention of some API, maybe, and that is all. Any bets?
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I'll take the bet that you're 100% right. That's what they do with the 360, it's like "you won't want to miss our announcements" then they serve you the same old sh.. you already knew about.
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dkp1977 said:
My wish list:
- some way to allow zune streaming music and video not only to the XBox but to the WP7 devices as well
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Marketplace (or Zune > Marketplace) > Music > Find Music > Click on Album/Single > Click on Play icon next to album or single = Streaming music,
I mean streaming media that I have on my windows 7 PC.
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Interesting if they will show anything we don't already know there.
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Joe Belifore mentioned in a Channel 9 interview last week, that they will be revealing Mango features that they have not talked about before. Expect some major announcements. It was obvious that he was holding back some good stuff.
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Joe Belifore mentioned in a Channel 9 interview last week, that they will be revealing Mango features that they have not talked about before. Expect some major announcements. It was obvious that he was holding back some good stuff.
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Don't, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
This year, MIX will highlight Microsoft’s commitment to web standards and HTML5, build on the excitement for IE9, and showcase the future of the Windows Phone developer ecosystem. Plus, we’ll unveil what’s new for developers in the next version of Windows Phone.
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If they announce new features, great I've learned to keep expectations in check when it comes to WP7 though.
Edit: There are 13 sessions on the platform updates. That should mean a good number of APIs are coming our way.
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same here....lol
Let's help our beloved WP7 platform to get some more attention!
Considering the fact that WP7 is relative young we already have a good choice of solid apps, services and games in our marketplace.
But I'm sure most WP7 users are still missing some major players on our platform!
iHeartWP7 created a website an a twitter account devoted to that purpose!
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/iHeartWP7
Website:
http://www.iheartwp7.com/
Let's join our forces and get WP7 recognized! The more developers we convince, the stronger WP7 will get. The 3rd major smart phone OS is already here we just have to show them!
Follow iHeartWP7 on Twitter it's enough to re-tweet the tweets you like!
Quote from iHeartWP7:
I Heart WP7 was created with the goal of convincing developers to design their apps for Windows Phone 7. This website lets you easily contact the developers in masses and request that they bring their app to WP7.
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Yeah, this would be cool
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Really nice initiative, followed them on twitter.
Thanks for your support!
I'm following also. I put in the request for Catch Notes.
So...I've owned my HTC Titan for about a month now, and overall I love it. But we all know that some of the apps that exist on the 'other' OS's, don't exist on Windows Phone.
Heres the idea:
How about an app, that acts as a petition..... It could be designed to simply email the top 20 or so app developers that have popular apps on iPhone and Android, requesting their apps be ported to Windows Phone....
Just an idea I had....and I felt like this was the best place to vent it.
-B
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So...I've owned my HTC Titan for about a month now, and overall I love it. But we all know that some of the apps that exist on the 'other' OS's, don't exist on Windows Phone.
Heres the idea:
How about an app, that acts as a petition..... It could be designed to simply email the top 20 or so app developers that have popular apps on iPhone and Android, requesting their apps be ported to Windows Phone....
Just an idea I had....and I felt like this was the best place to vent it.
-B
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+1 as long as it's not considered spamming!
+1
but, It is not a spaming App if you describe what the app does. ? So each user knows what the app will do.
PS. I would definetly use/install this app.
i would use it
My Vote too +1
It's bad idea. If you are thinking, the developers don't know about WP7, you are mistaken. Second one: most top apps written not by individual developers but companies; only you can get a company's general contact email or tech support email. So you can't really spam the devs (and it's perfectly fine! LOL )
Yeah, that's a double edged sword. It would get ideas out there, but I can just imagine the flooded inboxes.
So I'm working on a post for my site. It's going to be a list about things a developer does with an application that frustrates us as users. The goal is to highlight common complains from the community about practices devs use in their apps and to hopefully encourage them with feedback to improve.
This is the list I've got so far. Please feel free to chime in if you agree or disagree and ADD any things that bug you as a USER.
--Lack of a live tile: One of the biggest differences on our platforms and others is the inclusion of live tiles. If it makes sense for the application, a live tile is a must. I'm hard pressed to find a large category of apps where a live tile wouldn't make sense at some basic level.
--No fast app switching: No explanation needed, devs get with it.
--Not playing nice with Metro: You make an app for iOS or Android and now you want to port it Windows Phone as fast as possible...so fast you don't think about the design. Great apps on Windows Phone are those that capitalize on the principles of the design language.
--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
--Redirecting to a website: I once downloaded a sports app that had potential. I opened the app and played around. There was a pivot page that had a section for news. Clicked it...and bam. IE is opening up. Nope, no thank you. I want to use your app now your website.
These are some of the big themes that I've encountered more than I should when playing around with apps. This is not a major problem, but it's there and it really shouldn't be.
Also I'm not trying to put developers down, I know it's hard work and I myself am trying to learn as well. But we should strive for something better.
Alright, sound off with some feedback guys. Any other 'sins against users' I've missed that you encounter? I'd like to see what you think before I write the post on my site.
ALSOOOO.... How about you list some apps that contain these 'sins against users'. That way we can politely invite the developer to hear our thoughts and implement changes that benefit everyone. Happy users = $, $= happy dev.
All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
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--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
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As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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I agree. Some devs don't mention what the trial offers(time-limited or function-limited) and hence I stay away from such paid apps. Sometimes the trial is fully functional with ads. Agreed that the devs were lazy to not include it in the description, but some users are lazy too. That would be the reason for two versions of the app.
it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?
Marvin_S said:
As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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Yeah, I understand the marketing angle. I guess I live in some fantasy land in my head where the world is clean and organized. Hopefully with the Windows 8 Marketplace offering devs simliliar options in how they can implement trials we'll see less "free" apps because users may come expect every paid app to come with a trial.
svtfmook said:
it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?
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That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.
I'm in need of a map/location/gps app, that supports offline map caching . while I found couple of them on marketplace, ones that had nice design an functionality, all of them where online only and ones that had offline map caching had terrible design an absolutely no functionality. thats sad
design and functionality should be put first IMO
Inconsistent Resuming and Lack of Tombstoning
Once an app leaves the foreground you have two methods of returning to it: use the app switcher or hitting the tile on your Start screen. Going from the app switcher resumes as expected, but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background. Now this is probably something Microsoft has to fix, but I feel that if more apps tombstoned, then it could make things more consistent.
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That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.
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Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.
Marvin_S said:
Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.
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I think going forward an ideal scenario would be a user expects to have a trial mode for any app that a dev is asking money for. It's a win-win for both consumers and developers. Check out this post from Paul Laberge explaining some of the benefits of a trial mode.
Seems like your second paragraph is echoing the statement to follow metro design language/principles and aim for higher quality control in regards to the design.
It's interesting, I feel like 5 years ago software was all about being functional with no regard to design. Now we not only demand, but expect applications to function well and look beautiful. Exciting times
karan1203 said:
All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
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Are those faults of the developer or the platform itself? I ask because I don't know a lot of the technical workings behind the push notification system. My limited knowledge tells me it might be a mix of both parties to blame.
Can anyone clarify?
apps?
For sure about Notifications part.
Push Notification can be useful "ONLY" when you have the phone right in front of your face. Because right after that, they are gone forever.
Second, Push Notification usually have a delay , about a half to 2 mins, from the actual event.
Like my friend can post a thing on my Facebook Wall, and the phone took about 2 mins to update it to the ME title. Same with all other Applications.
I used to try hacking the ROM and Registry of the Phone to reduce the delay of the Title Update. But failed so hard because Microsoft really locked it up hard.
I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)
prohibido_por_la_ley said:
I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)
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I was hoping I'd cover the most obvious complaints, but wanted to reach out and see if anything was missing. Also venting is good for us
And regarding Tagged...? Wow... I just looked at it on the web Marketplace and I won't let something that hideous touch my phone. It's just lazy and doesn't add any value to users or devs. Users get nothing out of it and as a dev what have you accomplished?
Apps like that should not pass certification. It seems draconian, but it's ok for us to demand and expect quality work.
wixostrix said:
...but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background.
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This is (or was pre-Mango) a requirement to have your app certified. The rules say/said that a user returning to a task via the Back button is trying to complete an interupted task; a user launching the app from Start is starting a new task and shouldn't be presented with abandoned work from earlier.
I have a calculator app that maintains full state across invocations. I was worried that MS would reject the app because it preserved state even upon restarting. They did accept it, though.
Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.
Aphasaic2002 said:
Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.
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I hear you on that Facebook app. Thankfully the integration with Windows Phone makes it so that I haven't opened it in months. I check FB once a day on the browser at home before bed, but that's about it.
But I'll chalk this complaint under the 'design abuse' category.
Anyone have any other apps that violate some of our sins in the original post in this thread?
I'd like to see improvements with the sound handeling. Most games have a 'music volume' and a 'FX volume' it seems the volume % is boolean, 0% is silent, 10%-100% is full volume. I'd like to listen to my music while gaming without the Pew Pew causing my ears to bleed