[Q] Bing Maps next to useless outside USA - Windows Phone 7 General

I just moved from an iPhone 4 to a HTC Mozart and so far am loving everything about the phone bar a few little problems. The main one being Bing Maps doesnt do anything useful. Example being yesterday I was in the city and was going to post a few things for Xmas at the post office, on my iphone I would have loaded up google maps and typed in "Post Office" and it would have shown me all the post offices around me and I could then make my way there. Bing Maps on the other hand when I typed in the same thing takes me to a park in "IL" somewhere in the USA. SO i typed in "Post Offcies in Sydney" and this just brought up an error. The Bing Maps is useless and I tried to find a lot of things and it always finds something useless for me in the USA or shows an error.
Anyone outside the USA got this app to work successfully or even remotely relevant to where you are???

I'm with you, its just a bit ****. I used to have an Xperia x10 which had Google maps and my tracks, I often used it to navigate through forestry tracks in Wales but they aren't on Bing Maps at all!
Actually is Bing **** or is Google Maps just so good?

Works fine in the UK (with the exception of voice searches).

I listen to wp7 radio podcasts and they say they are working on better bing implementation in other countries, so they are aware that the problem exists.

bnathan said:
I just moved from an iPhone 4 to a HTC Mozart and so far am loving everything about the phone bar a few little problems. The main one being Bing Maps doesnt do anything useful. Example being yesterday I was in the city and was going to post a few things for Xmas at the post office, on my iphone I would have loaded up google maps and typed in "Post Office" and it would have shown me all the post offices around me and I could then make my way there. Bing Maps on the other hand when I typed in the same thing takes me to a park in "IL" somewhere in the USA. SO i typed in "Post Offcies in Sydney" and this just brought up an error. The Bing Maps is useless and I tried to find a lot of things and it always finds something useless for me in the USA or shows an error.
Anyone outside the USA got this app to work successfully or even remotely relevant to where you are???
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I agree with you on that, when i searched for post office in Bing maps, it got auspost but alot of other random results, as well as missed alot of the post offices here in sydney. I noticed the Google search app results are alot more accurate and shows address' under 'places'
If you don't have the 'local' results in Bing search yet, there is a way around it which will bring SOME local results.
Under Settings > region & language, make sure 'display language' and 'Browser & search language' is set to 'English (United States)' It will ask you to restart your phone. While not as accurate as Google search, it's a good thing to have as some results do show up. Microsoft really needs to stand by their saying that they're a 'global' company, rather than a US only company.

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[Q] Bing Maps reviews

Hi all,
Does anyone know why WP7 Maps doesn't show Reviews for local POI's (retaurant's, etc)?
It finds them fine and even shows their star rating along with how many people have reviewed it, but when going onto the "reviews" tab, it shows "No reviews for <business>"?
Or is it only me this is happening to?
Can anyone at least confirm it's happening for them too?
hmm i dont see any POIs on my bing in phone.. no matter where i look
well not POI's as such, but when you search for a restuarant for example, you can go to the restaurant's "Profile" within Mas, which gives you it's phone number, opening times, website, etc (provided they have a business profile to view), it's this "Profile" that should show ratings, but even though the front page tells you there are ratings there, the "reviews" page on that profile shows "No reviews for <restaurant>"
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well not POI's as such, but when you search for a restuarant for example, you can go to the restaurant's "Profile" within Mas, which gives you it's phone number, opening times, website, etc (provided they have a business profile to view), it's this "Profile" that should show ratings, but even though the front page tells you there are ratings there, the "reviews" page on that profile shows "No reviews for <restaurant>"
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I would love to help but in my country Bing doesn't even perform search for main streets, so no luxury of this kind for me.
Bump. Sorry guys but it's really starting to piss me off cos I don't know if it's a prob with me/the phone or everyone in UK.
Audio said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know why WP7 Maps doesn't show Reviews for local POI's (retaurant's, etc)?
It finds them fine and even shows their star rating along with how many people have reviewed it, but when going onto the "reviews" tab, it shows "No reviews for <business>"?
Or is it only me this is happening to?
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Don't know why, but it's not just you. I see the same thing on my ATT Focus in the Chicago area.
About page shows:
Rating
***** (13 reviews)
Reviews page shows:
"No reviews for ..."
the same is true for every business I check.
I just checked a couple different places in Los Angeles and I get the same results.
Thanks for replying munkeyphyst/PG2G. It's good to know it's not just me finally!
Same problem here.
I do remember that Bing used to have the "location review"
Like at Ritzville, i searched "movie" and it located the "Ritz Movie Theater" for me (with one review). I clicked on that review and internet explorer opened for me a website that contain info about the theater and review about it (That website is not a part of Bing or a part of Microsoft). I remember i did it before i had no no-do installed on my HD7.

Trying to get a shareable bing map

I am trying hard to use Bing maps the way I used Google maps on 6.5.
My goal is to be able to create a custom map with pins, and share it. When we travel to another city, we like to both create a google map on a computer that is shared. Then upon arrival, we could use the pushpins to remember to go where we wanted to go!
I haven't found a way with Bing to do this. Google Maps allowed for good planning, and good searching... Mango does great with adding the local info into Bing Maps, especially the local events. Just wish I could share a custom map.
MetalHd said:
I am trying hard to use Bing maps the way I used Google maps on 6.5.
My goal is to be able to create a custom map with pins, and share it. When we travel to another city, we like to both create a google map on a computer that is shared. Then upon arrival, we could use the pushpins to remember to go where we wanted to go!
I haven't found a way with Bing to do this. Google Maps allowed for good planning, and good searching... Mango does great with adding the local info into Bing Maps, especially the local events. Just wish I could share a custom map.
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I just tried it and it works like a charm. I went to http://www.bing.com then chose "maps". I put some pins here and there after I logged in with my live ID (don't actually know if this is necessary though). When I was finished, I used the small envelope button on the very bottom left of the screen to share the link via e-mail. I opened that e-mail and clicked the link. Just a few secods later IE mobile show the map with all my pins.
dkp1977 said:
I just tried it and it works like a charm. I went to http://www.bing.com then chose "maps". I put some pins here and there after I logged in with my live ID (don't actually know if this is necessary though). When I was finished, I used the small envelope button on the very bottom left of the screen to share the link via e-mail. I opened that e-mail and clicked the link. Just a few secods later IE mobile show the map with all my pins.
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Ya, but this becomes a static map at that point. To have the web map app talk to the mobile web app, in a collaborated state, makes it so versatile. This method would require me to re-send with changes, rather than update live on its own..
I know this is functional, but still would like to have more ease of use added. This way she goes on her computer, and maps her things, and I would do my points, and both would show up on one mobile map as a layer... this makes a great reference while travelling, and using to gps to find pushpins that were local to your current position... this bing method would mean two separate maps we keep sending to each other..

Bing Maps frustrations

So last week I went to stay in a condo with some friends. They texted me the address and it conveniently created a link that took me right to Bing maps. I was a half-hour late because Bing Maps dropped me off THIRTEEN MILES AWAY from the actual address. This is fully the THIRD time that I've been late or completely missed an event because Bing maps couldn't get me to the right place. Worse, every time someone asks why I was late and I respond "my phone took me to the wrong place," they ask what I'm using. When I reluctantly admit that it is Bing, I always get something to the effect of, "oh, THAT'S why."
In the end, I used the gMaps app to get to the right place. The weirdest thing is that when I went to Bing Maps on a browser at the condo, it GOT THE ADDRESS RIGHT! It's only the Bing Maps on my phone that dropped me off far, far away.
Try it for yourself on your Windows phone "Maps" app, on Bing Maps on a browser, or on Google Maps:
4010 Silverheels Dr, Silverthorn, CO 80498
(I know "Silverthorne" is misspelled, but that's how it was in the text message, so I'm leaving it as-is for troubleshooting reasons.)
WHY?!?!?!?
Interesting. Maybe it's whatever certain APIs are exposed to the mobile Bing app? Clearly, the web version has some kind of auto correction the mobile version doesn't/can't access.
Btw, how come you didn't question why it was placing the marker on the green side of a mountain?
I can not verify this. I typed in the adress just as you specified, and this is what it came up with. I checked in google maps and bing maps. Bing maps is identical google maps is ~500 feet west of the spot, so practically the same.
in my city some zip codes are wrong!
ScottSUmmers said:
Btw, how come you didn't question why it was placing the marker on the green side of a mountain?
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lol...my wife was navigating from her Focus. I never saw the thing. Even then, I probably would have believed it, as I've been up many crazy mountain roads in this state, and it wouldn't have surprised me at all if the condo had been 13 miles out of town on a mountainside.
Localhorst86 said:
I can not verify this. I typed in the adress just as you specified, and this is what it came up with. I checked in google maps and bing maps. Bing maps is identical google maps is ~500 feet west of the spot, so practically the same.
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Weird. Apparently ScottSUmmers gets the same result I do. What your screenshot shows is where I was SUPPOSED to be. I wish I could take a screenshot to show you what I'm seeing. Thanks for checking!
Localhorst86 said:
I can not verify this. I typed in the adress just as you specified, and this is what it came up with. I checked in google maps and bing maps. Bing maps is identical google maps is ~500 feet west of the spot, so practically the same.
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PS: Google maps would still be more accurate based on your screenshot, as the actual address was no more than halfway down that street, not all the way at the end.
I think the misspelling is the key. If I put the address in my phone exactly as shown (without the 'e') it is way wrong. But if I add the 'e', it goes to the right spot.
When I use the web version of Bing Maps, it tells me that the city is spelled incorrectly, and auto-corrects it. That seems to be the piece that is broken/missing on WP7.
RoboDad said:
I think the misspelling is the key. If I put the address in my phone exactly as shown (without the 'e') it is way wrong. But if I add the 'e', it goes to the right spot.
When I use the web version of Bing Maps, it tells me that the city is spelled incorrectly, and auto-corrects it. That seems to be the piece that is broken/missing on WP7.
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That was also my experience. Strange, since there's not two similarly-named towns out there or anything. How one letter could confuse their system so much I have no idea. I'm waiting for an address for my wife so I can demonstrate one of the other two times Bing has steered me way wrong.
Maybe it's just my state, but if I can't trust Bing, then I can't use Bing.
weird, though. I left out the "e" as well on my phone, it still found it...
EDIT: I just realized this. I typed it without the "e" and it showed up as "Silverthorn" in the destination entry. But as soon as I hit enter to calculate the route, my phone would automatically change the town to "Silverthorne". I cannot at all search for "silverthorn"
13 miles is nothing, try 8668 miles. see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNQVTjw4vU
I get the same results every time.
drokkon said:
So last week I went to stay in a condo with some friends. They texted me the address and it conveniently created a link that took me right to Bing maps. I was a half-hour late because Bing Maps dropped me off THIRTEEN MILES AWAY from the actual address. This is fully the THIRD time that I've been late or completely missed an event because Bing maps couldn't get me to the right place. Worse, every time someone asks why I was late and I respond "my phone took me to the wrong place," they ask what I'm using. When I reluctantly admit that it is Bing, I always get something to the effect of, "oh, THAT'S why."
In the end, I used the gMaps app to get to the right place. The weirdest thing is that when I went to Bing Maps on a browser at the condo, it GOT THE ADDRESS RIGHT! It's only the Bing Maps on my phone that dropped me off far, far away.
Try it for yourself on your Windows phone "Maps" app, on Bing Maps on a browser, or on Google Maps:
4010 Silverheels Dr, Silverthorn, CO 80498
(I know "Silverthorne" is misspelled, but that's how it was in the text message, so I'm leaving it as-is for troubleshooting reasons.)
WHY?!?!?!?
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It is probably because Windows phone doesn't force autocorrect. (instead suggests unline the iphone for example and others) it underlined it as possibly wrong on mine with correct suggestion (when doing search in bing maps on phone) Bing maps on the pc just assumes you ment the correct one and takes u there.
I was driving to the airport one day and decided to use map on my HTC HD7. I don't know if its my phone company's fault or my phone.
1)The refresh rate on my phone was so slow i couldn't even see where im going on my phone
2)For some reason when I enabled always facing where my car is facing the Map app on Wp7 doesn't work at all
3)The voice which is suppose to help you doesn't work at all.
I gave up using the map app on my phone and switched to Outdoor navigation instead
Same here, some street numbers are inverted... almost missed a meeting...
I've had a long list of experiences where bing maps gave the wrong street, city, ghost locations, etc and I have come to the realization that I can't trust it... I use it for directions in the city (nyc), and you would think that businesses would be well mapped. Oh well... maybe ovi maps can step up to google maps :/
searching "fedex drop off location" took me to dairy queen last night. needless to say, the package was late, but, i got an oreo blizzard. so i'm torn with bing maps right now. yes, i missed my shipment, but, i got a blizzard...
it was like, "sorry i screwed you up, here's some ice cream to make you feel better... by the way, you got $2.99 i can borrow?"
Count yourself lucky if Bing Maps or Local Scout actually works in your country. They're *still* broken in most regions of the world.
Happens to me all the time. Even if I type it right into the map search.
That's why I always find it on google maps on a desktop first, then crosscheck it with the Bing result. I don't trust it. Probably never will.
Yeah typing the full address is usually important but I tend to leave out the city and state and just do 4010 Silverheels Dr 80498 reason being is there are sometimes cities or sub divisions near eachother that contain the same name and can have the same street name. This is why UPS/FEDEX/USPS don't give a hoot about your city name (that is really just there for you) they like to use zip or even better zip + 4.
Now it sounds strange but look up your friends address http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/zcl_0_results.jsp here at the USPS. It dosent exist!
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Ok so now this is funny. Go lookup "80498" in google maps. Now look it up in Bing. Now with yahoo.
They all place 80498 in roughly the same place.
You will notice that that center is over 25 miles away (via roads) to the city you were looking for. 80498 shares the same zip as Heeney, CO.
I would consider 80498 as a rural area and therefore the single zip code covers a very very big area. Bing's Default search radius is somewhere between 5-15 miles. There definately is a bug in how Bing Mobile resolves a typo (yeah if you typed it right you would have gotten there right away).
The way Tom Tom (for example) looks up address is in logical order:
State -> City -> Street -> Building Number.
GPS' have to do this so they give you context and a filtered view. Imagine if you started typing 4010 how many address would popup!
Anyways...just submit a bug report by clicking the address in the map clicking the "..."'s and then clicking suggest changes. They will change it for you.
Don't think that Bing is the only one that screws up however, I've seen Google, yahoo, mapquest (yeah remember them?), Waze, TomTom, and garmin all give me wrong directions.
I guess they must have fixed this, I got linked to this discussion from another thread, yet when I tried it on my HD7 (TMOUS 8107), it automatically corrected it for me from the bing maps search and showed me the same thing the web app does (although it didn't warn me like the web app that it was corrected). Just for giggles I emailed the address to myself to see if it was a link related thing and got the same correct result. I noticed how old the thread is but just wanted to say that it looks like it was fixed at some point (which is an assumption since I never got to see it broken). Perhaps the partnership with Nokia included address resolution logic changes?
4010 Silverheels Dr, Silverthorn, CO 80498
My list of Bing Maps frustrations:
- It doesn't map a route from one country to another, otherwise everything works well.
Wouldnt it be fab if Bing can actually route directions from your location to another, worldwide? Like with public transits included from and to.

[Q] Google Search Assistant - Does it work out of the USA?

I've been trying Jelly Bean on my GN for a couple days now and, while the whole experience has been awesome, there is a particular feature announced at I/O that does not work: the Search Assistant. You know, those Siri-like cards with info that show up after you perform a Google search while a voice reads them out.
Is that working for you guys living in the USA? What about those who, like me, live abroad? Does it have a geographical restriction? Is it just still not live yet?
Would welcome some help about this.
one of the option in the google now/voice thing is "use google.com instead of localised google". If you check that as 'yes' then you would get the cards with pics how up, but if you say "what is the weather" or "what is the time" it would always default to Washington DC, USA no matter where you are outside USA (And other issues like "what is the weather in waterloo shows me waterloo, USA instead of waterloo, canada).
that being said...
the voice search works fine otherwise with localised search. As much as it bugs me to not have those cards with the pic show up after a voice search, its mosly a "for looks" thing. voice search assisstant works perfectly however, it also shows cards (just not with pictures) for results as it should.
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one of the option in the google now/voice thing is "use google.com instead of localised google". If you check that as 'yes' then you would get the cards with pics how up
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Not in my case. I asked it to use google.com, disabled using my location and even changed the language to US English, but to no avail. Maybe it just also works in Canada?
frandavid100 said:
Not in my case. I asked it to use google.com, disabled using my location and even changed the language to US English, but to no avail. Maybe it just also works in Canada?
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try turning it off and back on, or erasing data/cache for that app, sometimes resetting it does the trick.
Hm... no, no dice. What I would really like is to know if this is also happening to other folks in Europe.
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Hm... no, no dice. What I would really like is to know if this is also happening to other folks in Europe.
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Works "alright" here in the UK. I can set alarms, send texts and if I say "weather" it brings up the weather in my location as well as speaks it back. Also works for weather in other locations. Cards with images and data DO pop up, but it is a bit hit and miss. A lot of the time you just get a google search. However, the navigation if I have just searched for a place on Google works well. I done a search for an address earlier to see where it was in relation to me, 30 seconds later I had a navigation card informing me of the route a possible delays. I'm happy with it, when it works (which is most of the time) its a fantastic addition.
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If you are still having trouble, you may want to check out this tutorial which made it work for me in Germany: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28043720&postcount=1
Interestingly, after I had google.com set as search engine, Google Now always thought I was in Washington and thus only showed Washington-based Information to me. Thus I switched back to google.de, now getting local information about my actual location. Google Now still works for me without having the search engine set to google.com
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Contacts App Questions

Hi guys,
I am thinking of buying a Pixel XL. I played with one today at the store and I found a disturbing issue to me. If I add a contact it only gives me one line for the address. Exactly the same BS like on the web portal of gmail.
Usually, you can click somewhere and expand the address field to more but single fields for street, city, country and so on.
This one line might work just great if you use only US addresses, but as soon you get into international addresses from countries around the world. Google can't handle the input anymore and gets confused what is what.
Was I just to blind to see how to expand the field or is it really that bad? Now I would need to install a second contacts app with this option. Great job Google!!!
Not sure if this a feasible work around but you could possible try a differnt contact apps?
See here: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Contacts&c=apps&hl=en
Scott said:
Not sure if this a feasible work around but you could possible try a differnt contact apps?
See here: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Contacts&c=apps&hl=en
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That was my thougt too. but thats stupid. Esepcially if its just used to add addresses. So far I havent seen a phone which doesnt have the expandable address field except the PIxels
Snake-Plissken said:
Hi guys,
I am thinking of buying a Pixel XL. I played with one today at the store and I found a disturbing issue to me. If I add a contact it only gives me one line for the address. Exactly the same BS like on the web portal of gmail.
Usually, you can click somewhere and expand the address field to more but single fields for street, city, country and so on.
This one line might work just great if you use only US addresses, but as soon you get into international addresses from countries around the world. Google can't handle the input anymore and gets confused what is what.
Was I just to blind to see how to expand the field or is it really that bad? Now I would need to install a second contacts app with this option. Great job Google!!!
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I may not be understanding correctly, but I just tried adding a new contact and I was able to add a multi-line address. I just hit enter after each line and a new line appeared.
Eg.
1234 Street name
City
Province
Postal Code
Is this what you meant, or did I misunderstand the problem?
As I'm German and only save German, a few French, Danish and some addresses from Luxembourg I too don't see the problem.
As mentioned above you can always hit enter for another line but even if you don't and write it all in one line Google is always smart enough to know where to navigate me.
Correct me but if you have saved a contact with an address and you hit it you get directed to maps, maps searches instantly for the address and it doesn't even matter if postal code, town or even country is missing.
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As I'm German and only save German, a few French, Danish and some addresses from Luxembourg I too don't see the problem.
As mentioned above you can always hit enter for another line but even if you don't and write it all in one line Google is always smart enough to know where to navigate me.
Correct me but if you have saved a contact with an address and you hit it you get directed to maps, maps searches instantly for the address and it doesn't even matter if postal code, town or even country is missing.
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I tried to do the same before in the web portal of gmail. No matter if i enter everything in one line or hit enter. Google got confused. I dont remember what addresses gave me problems. I think one was Butan, Kazachstan, Peru and Chile I believe.
Also if i view the entry from the web portal on my mobile (galaxy note) and I go to edit contact. The address is completly mixed up. In the city field is the street, street is country and so on. It was a big mess up. I dont know if Google already improved that. I stopped using the web portal and entered the addresses on mobile where I had the actual fields for City, Street, ZIP and so on...
I dont have a Pixel yet so cant try a lot. I played with it in a Verizon store....

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