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[Q] Which root method to use?

I just upgraded to the Evo 4G.
It came stock with the Froyo Sprint 3.30.651.2
I was told by a friend that its hard to root the 3.30 builds, and I couldn't find reference to that on here.
Just want to make sure T_T

it is HARD to root 3.30 build. what is your hardware? i am willing to help you command by command (because i am nice?) do you have adb installed? pc or mac? first step is install adb. then i can help you more.

uhm, did i forget to say i am very noob at this T_T what is adb?
and in terms of hardware,. did you mean..
Hardware version 0003?

I was in the same boat as you last week. I had WM for years and was familiar with unlocking and flashing things, had to learn quite a bit of new stuff moving to android. These two threads helped me immensely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
I am not sure how well the first one works, but would be easier. Personally I used the 2nd link and followed the manual method, not only to make sure every step was correct, but it also taught me quite a bit about android.
Let me, the other gentleman in this post, or someone in one of those posts if you need an assistance.

wow both those tutorials root while turning s-off?!?!? i guess i haven't been reading up on those enough. i thought that they were to turn s-off once shell permissions were gained. if you want to do it manually, you still can, but the first link seems the best since it somehow magically downgrades you to .76.2 hboot. i'm not sure if anybody else has been able to do this in hboot 2.02. or maybe i'm wrong. maybe you just have to flash a pc36img.zip after s-off.
answering your question: adb is the driver that allows for your phone and your computer to talk. it was developed by google to help app developers, so it is perfectly safe and legal. it is used for just about every manual hack/mod on these forums. really, it is the most useful tool you can have. once again, pc or mac?

pc =]
either one running xp x32 or one running 7 x64

dkdude36 said:
wow both those tutorials root while turning s-off?!?!?
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Yea I had read up all on rooting, flashing, etc before getting my Evo last week only to have to search more when none of the other methods worked. Fortunately those posts got me everything I needed.

Maybe you guys can shed some light for me on this issue. I attempted to root my phone using the tutrial on this site named How to root evo 2.2. Everything went well got into bootloader and when it was time to load the image files from the pc36img.zip it would never load the files. My guess is because the hboot file in the zip is hboot 0.93.0000 and i have hboot 0.97.0000. All the info i see about rooting is relating to hboot 2.0.2 which is not the hboot on my evo. Any ideas? Thanks
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
2.15.00.09.01
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected] #11
Build Number
3.29.651.5 CL252548 release-keys
Software Number
3.29.651.5
Browser Version
Webkit 3.1
PRI Version
1.77_003
PRL Version
60671
supersonic evt2-3 ship s-on
hboot-0.97.0000
microp-041f
touch panel-atmelc03_16ac
radio-2.15.00.09.01
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Stroid01 said:
Maybe you guys can shed some light for me on this issue. I attempted to root my phone using the tutrial on this site named How to root evo 2.2. Everything went well got into bootloader and when it was time to load the image files from the pc36img.zip it would never load the files. My guess is because the hboot file in the zip is hboot 0.93.0000 and i have hboot 0.97.0000. All the info i see about rooting is relating to hboot 2.0.2 which is not the hboot on my evo. Any ideas? Thanks
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The hboot 2.0.2 like we have is the one that is more difficult to root. I have mine rooted, but I did not downgrade it like some have tried or possibly have done. If you have an older hboot and are on the 3.29 stock rom you shouldn't have too much problem following the basic guides, or even many of the 1-click root options. I personally don't know which to recommend because none of them worked for me, I would read through the android development subforum and see what has worked for others though.

hah ya you need to redo the mtd-eng.img step. that is why it wasn't accepted. i sort of went off on my own boat last night and rooted 3.29 flawlessly by running 4 pc36img.zips (from 3.29 to 1.47 to 1.32 to rooted 1.32 to eng spl 1.32) and 3 different exploits (mtd-eng exploit, flash lite exploit, no security exploit, and simple mtd-eng exploit). it really worked well, but took hours of downloading. thats like over half a gig of files. if you have questios about my method just ask.

where does it say what hboot you have?

boot into bootloader (turn phone off. once fully down, hold power and volume down) should say hboot-(version) or something like that.

I, too am confused as to what method to use or if I have to wait.
My hboot version is 0.97.0000
Hardware is 004
Software 3.29.651.5
PRI 1.77_003
Has anyone applied the unrevoked3 method for this config? Also, if 3.30x is a new release, it's weird why my "System Update" does not find any new OTA updates.

That is the weirdest verson combo I have ever seen. really no idea.

Need help with root

I just got a replacement evo and I updated it to 3.30.651.3 and my hardware ver. is 003..And i can not get root Please any help would be great ..thanks

i am ALWAYS open to helping people root. it seems the tutorial to do would be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
the problem is, all the files are for 0004 hardware so it would screw up your 0003. better just sit tight until they release the 0003 ruu cracked, patched, and engineering files. once again, open to help people.
dk

Thank you i can wait i tell you running stock isnt bad my battery life is crazy long...

Just as a last check, you might want to search the threads to see if any of the methods work for 0003. I might recommend just waiting though because the other methods seem a little shotty. The one I linked makes perfect sense and sounds foolproof. I doubt htc could have thought out that loophole.

Yeah cool thanks for your help

What is the manufacture date of your phone did it come with 3.30?
Sent from the edge of hell

there is now a method for rooting hardware 003 running hboot 2.02.

dkdude36 said:
there is now a method for rooting hardware 003 running hboot 2.02.
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Send link please?

its in the dev section. zi(something) wrote it up. the only thing missing was a tweaked custom recovery. if you need help pm or email/ichat me ([email protected] for all of them)
good luck ot you all
dk

I have hardware 0003, and the method you linked got me rooted. Took a couple attempts on a few of the steps, but end result is s-off, amon-ra recovery, still using hboot 2.02 however. I didn't see the need of downgrading hboot. Be careful when flashing roms though, as only htc kernels will allow the camera to work at the moment. (to the best of my knowledge). I'm more than happy to help, too, if you have any other questions.
Feel free to gtalk me or email me. [email protected]
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the point of downgrading is to allow unsigned pc36img.zips, and to have fastboot commands. these can be used for major developing, or simply changing your splash screen. not much of a purpose, but a purpose.

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I realized you meant changing splash through adb, my fault. Good point about the fastboot, though. I haven't tried the .zips either. I may downgrade yet.
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Be careful when downgrading. You could be bricked. I would recommend not downgrading until you do something that requires it. How do you flash splash screens without adb?

Flashable zips through recovery. Shift has a thread around here somewhere I got the one I'm using atm.
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I didn't know that was possible. Well it makes sense because wimax, radio, pri, nv, and boot .img are all installable with some tricky coding through recovery. Why not the splash1 partition too...

Hboot questions

So it seems as there is still some uncertainty in terms of updating to new hboot. Read some people lost root by doing so and read some were successful possibly due to having unrevoked forever installed. I updated to latest radio, wimax and nv already. Has anybody been able to downgrade the radio? I ask as it seems if downgrading is possible than unrevoked could be installed and then the hboot could be updated without losing root s-off. I appreciate any information and all your help.
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starkillers said:
So it seems as there is still some uncertainty in terms of updating to new hboot. Read some people lost root by doing so and read some were successful possibly due to having unrevoked forever installed. I updated to latest radio, wimax and nv already. Has anybody been able to downgrade the radio? I ask as it seems if downgrading is possible than unrevoked could be installed and then the hboot could be updated without losing root s-off. I appreciate any information and all your help.
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Why would you want to upgrade the hboot?

Was reading a few threads that suggest we should. I believe calkulin posted saying that he would update the hboot if it weren't for the fact that he uses fastboot commands during his development. Page 110 of his thread.
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Why would you want to upgrade the hboot?
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From what I've seen the new hBoots are all backward compatible, and as long as you have already ran Unrevoked Forever you *should* keep S-OFF, but the new hBoot has been particularly stubborn when it comes to abiding by the S-OFF. The extended commands on the eng-hBoot may not be very useful to most people but they can be very handy if something goes wrong and you manage to fubar your phone. So as long as you retain S-OFF or a custom recovery you should be ok using the 2.02 hBoot but I would wait awhile to find out more about ver 2.10. Especially if you plan on upgrading your radio.

I have already upgraded radio, wimax and nv and I don't have unrevoked forever installed . My hboot is the original with fastboot commands.
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From what I've seen the new hBoots are all backward compatible, and as long as you have already ran Unrevoked Forever you *should* keep S-OFF, but the new hBoot has been particularly stubborn when it comes to abiding by the S-OFF. The extended commands on the eng-hBoot may not be very useful to most people but they can be very handy if something goes wrong and you manage to fubar your phone. So as long as you retain S-OFF or a custom recovery you should be ok using the 2.02 hBoot but I would wait awhile to find out more about ver 2.10. Especially if you plan on upgrading your radio.
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I have 0.79, and as long as everything else is working, I don't see why it should be necessary to upgrade. And now that I've already updated all my radio's with the latest combo pack, I'm apprehensive about doing it anyway.

DarkAudit said:
I have 0.79, and as long as everything else is working, I don't see why it should be necessary to upgrade. And now that I've already updated all my radio's with the latest combo pack, I'm apprehensive about doing it anyway.
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Same here except I think I'm at even a lower version... 0.76
What would the point be to upgrading hboot to 2.02? It's one thing I don't really understand all that well.
Anyone care to explain?

Someone help...will unrevoked work for 3.3?

I downloaded unrevoked 3 ive rooted mine and my girlfriends phone with no issues. However we have had our evos since the 1st day they came out. Will unrevoked work for 3.3 on the evo? If not is there a simple way someone who isnt to good with computers like myself can root these phones?
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If your HBOOT version is 2.02 or 2.10, then no, unrevoked will not work.

From what I am reading... if you say you got your EVO from day 1, I assume that is June 4th, all EVOs from that date are from 0.87 HBOOT so yes, unrevoked would work for you.
Check your HBOOT version just in case.

fenixjn said:
From what I am reading... if you say you got your EVO from day 1, I assume that is June 4th, all EVOs from that date are from 0.87 HBOOT so yes, unrevoked would work for you.
Check your HBOOT version just in case.
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I think he already knows that his can be rooted. He says in his question that he had no issues rooting it or his girlfriends phone.

bmoreboy02 said:
I downloaded unrevoked 3 ive rooted mine and my girlfriends phone with no issues. However we have had our evos since the 1st day they came out. Will unrevoked work for 3.3 on the evo? If not is there a simple way someone who isnt to good with computers like myself can root these phones?
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I think what you want to know, is how to update to a 3.30.651.3 rom and keep root?
If that is what you are asking, then yes, you can look for one like in this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836728
You can download it and follow the directions, its easy. You should already be rooted, so if you install a rooted rom you should be OK.
If you are still on 3.29, make sure that you have S-OFF and ran Unrevoked Forever.

BASICALLY YES I BOUGHT MY EVOS THE 1ST FRIDAY THEY CAME OUT JUNE 4TH I BELIEVE. IVE NEVER DID ANYTHING TO IT EXCEPTH DOWNLOAD UPDATES SENT BY SPRINT. I FPUND OUT ABOUT ROOTING FOR FREE WIFI. DOWNLOADED UNREVOKED. DOWNLOADED THE ANDROID DRIVERS I GUESS BC IM USING WINDOWS 7 I NEEDED THEM. PLUGGED MINE AND MY GFS PHONE IN AND BAM! UNREVOKED HAD ME ROOTED IN MINUTES. SO I START GETTING A LITTLE COCKY AND GET ON THIS FORUM AND SEE IM WAY OUT OF MY LEAGUE. IM TRYING MY BEST TO SOAK IN AS MUCH INFO BY READING ALOT OF THE INFO IN THE Q&A FORUMS. NOT EXZACTLY SURE WHAT FLASHING ROM IS NOT SURE WHAT A KERNEL IS. FROM READING WHAT EVERYONE ON HERE IS DOING IAM WAYYYY BEHIND THE EIGHTBALL LOL. SO WHATS A EASY WAY FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME TO ROOT THE NEW EVOS. WILL UNREVOKED WORK? ALSO WHAT DO YOU RECCOMEND SOMEONE LIKE ME DO TO AN EVO THAT HASNT REALLY BEEN MODIFIED EXCEPT UNREVOKED?
OK SO THIS IS WHAT IAM LOOKING AT
ANDROID VERSION
2.2
BASEBAND VERSION
2.15.00.09.01
KERNEL VERSION
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected]#1!
SOFTWARE NUMBER
3.29.651.5
BROWSER VERSION
WEBKIT3.1
PRI VERSION
1.77_003
PRL VERSION
60670

I keep hearing everyone say use the "like a boss" method

Ok...so you first got the EVO when it came out in June, rooted it, but then applied a Sprint OTA update and lost root?
I'm not entirely sure what you are really asking because if you already obtained root, why would you need to root it again?

No i havent lost root. My phone is rooted. My friends have the new evo with the 3.3 software. Before i tell em to drive up to baltimore from richmond i wanna make sure it will work. Thre reason i posted the info about my phone is i guess it would just be useful for people to see what exzactly i have and would need

Ok...that's what I was thinking at first.
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OK SO THIS IS WHAT IAM LOOKING AT
ANDROID VERSION
2.2
BASEBAND VERSION
2.15.00.09.01
KERNEL VERSION
2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected]#1!
SOFTWARE NUMBER
3.29.651.5
BROWSER VERSION
WEBKIT3.1
PRI VERSION
1.77_003
PRL VERSION
60670
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So this spec is his phone or yours? If this is his phone, then you can use unrevoked3 (I assume since the build is 3.29, the HBOOT is 0.97 or so).

No this is my phone
He just bought his from radioshack 4 days ago so im assuming he has all the newest software. Also thanks for explaining the difference in unrevoked 3 and forever on my other thread. Im assuming i need to save any info on my phone before running unrevoked forever. Sorry to be bouncing around so much but im just so anxious to learn so heres 2 questions
1) when flashing roms, is unrevoked 3 a tool i can use. Can i just click custom then select the rom i want to flash?
2) for my buddys phone, what is the simplest way to root his phone since unrevoked will not work. Im reading the tjread everyone is referring to as 'like a boss" but its not making much sense

1. I assume from you asking about unrevoked forever, you are still S-ON and trying to get S-OFF? When you ran unrevoked3, it should've installed a custom recovery (ClockworkMOD is what unrevoked uses I believe). That's where you flash unrevoked forever and any custom ROMs later (the files need to be on the root of your SDcard - meaning not in any folders).
To get to recovery: power off, then when you turn it back on, hold down VOL DOWN and POWER and that will put you into bootloader. It may attempt to locate PC36IMG.zip/etc files but you prob won't have them which is fine, after that, select Recovery and hit Power and you should be booting into recovery.
If you can, I would suggest doing a nandroid backup of your phone so in case anything does get messed up while flashing, you can restore back. To do this, go to backup or something like that (sorry, I use Amon_RA's recovery so the wording is most likely different). Once you are backed up, go to 'install zip from sdcard', then 'choose zip from sdcard', and then pick the file you want to flash. After that, reboot and you should be good to go.
Some custom ROMs require you to do a full wipe (data/cache/dalvik-cache - wipe each one twice) before you flash, so to do that you go to recovery and choose the wipe option. Stuff like radios, kernels, themes, you only need to wipe the cache and dalvik-cache.
2. As for your buddy's phone....I am not too familiar with the new EVO root methods but I think the "like a boss" edition which is now updated to "Yea, I'm On Top" edition seems to be the new way to root the new EVOs until unrevoked or someone else comes out with another way. You can check out these threads to get a better understand and post in them too if you have any questions and the guys with experience when those methods should be able to help. Sorry, I can't be of too much help here.
READ FIRST! Rooting Information and Common Problems + Questions (Updated:12/15/10)
[ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF -Yea, Yes Im On Top Edition - Upd. 12.19.10
[ROOT] ~~~ HTC EVO - Universal Auto Root ~~~ (updated for 2.02)(12/15/10)
Best of luck to you and your buddy.

[Q] Issues with Unrooting and Updating Kernel, Radio, OS, EtC

I was rooted with Unrevoked forever and running Caulkulins EVio 2.
Ran the unrevoked s-on tool from the How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS thread.
Attempted to run the PC36IMG but it won't load as I get a notification stating that it is older than the 2.2 the phone came with.
I do now have S-On
Did full wipe and factory restore.
I am unable to update radio, Wimax or Kernel.
Downloaded the 2.3 update and it loads about 1/3 of the way and then hangs, giving me a triangle with a yellow exclamation point next to the little green android guy.
I'm thinking that perhaps I am not totally non rooted but I'm not convinced this shouldn't allow me to update from the 2.15.00.09.01 or allow me to replace the 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e htc--kernel and 18-12#11
Build# is 3.29.651.5CL252548 Release Keys and Software Number 3.29.651.5
Any thoughts or help you could give me?

I guess I must be a problem with no answers?

For one, you don't need to unroot to flash radios.....

This I was aware of but as I am due for an upgrade in three weeks and I was trading the phone in at RS, it made sense to do so.
This still doesn't explain why I can't upgrade, why the radio flash doesn't take, etc

jfenton57 said:
This I was aware of but as I am due for an upgrade in three weeks and I was trading the phone in at RS, it made sense to do so.
This still doesn't explain why I can't upgrade, why the radio flash doesn't take, etc
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Since you are rootless, flash the 3.70.XX RUU and then run update. That should get all updated ...
Although why bother with a trade in?
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Thanks for the RUU recommendation. I tracked down the original non rooted version and it solved all my problems