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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.

I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.

euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.

wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/

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Hope the hint helps

Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!

...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...

hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6

I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.

in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.

crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.

Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40

crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?

Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!

mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

Official WM6 OS Only

Ever since I joined this site several months back, I've been flashing cooked ROMs non-stop with limited success in terms of telephone stability and usability. If I were to flash the official release, I would be stuck with Bootloader 1.08 which I understand makes further flashing difficult, if at all possible.
What I would like to do is try and flash the official WM6 OS from Cingular while still retaining my hard SPL boot loader, radio, etc. I looked at NBH Extract, Kitchens and really couldn't figure anything out.
Would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction on how to just flash the OS portion of the Official ROM release.

On this guide you will find the tools and the "how" to do what you want.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27
The difference is that you will not download a WM5 Rom but the WM6 Cingular Rom and will make the one that you need. For sure OS , ExtRom, Spashes and no radio because you want to keep the same. After you compile the new modified nbh and you upgrade with Hard SPL 2.10 olipro as you did with custom ROMS.
I wish I helped.Good Luck

Thanks
Thanks a lot! I will give it a shot and let you know. Now you mentioned that this will keep my Radio the same as is now, but will this also leave my Olipro 2.10 in tact so that I can do further flashing later?

As long you dont choose IPL and SPL when making the new nbh,yes . Just what mrvanx says. This is because you wont have spl or ipl to new nbh so they wont be flashed to your device. You even can not to choose splashes if you want to keep your own you have now.
Only what "nb" you choose will be flashed to the device.

Thanks Again
lagoskon said:
As long you dont choose IPL and SPL when making the new nbh,yes
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Everything worked like a charm!

Very glad you did it

help!!always hang after flash to manila2d!!

hi there, i hv a problem here,i hv flash my dopod838 pro to manila 2d which i found in this forum,after flash it,my device also hang and when i do a soft reset,it hang at boot screen and cant enter windows..i wondering what problem with my device.....can some body gv me idea regarding my dopod?relly blur and no idea about it...........

Hi! Have you tried flashing original carrier ROM & then flashing the ROM of your choice??

original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks

I hope you had Hard SPL installed.
Do a search to see if you can find your carriers WM06 rom, it doesn't need to be WM05. Search is your friend here.

kahwah said:
original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks
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HI!
Please check this link out I am sure it you will get enough info about upgrading your Dopod 838 pro!
Best of Luck!

ultramag69 said:
I hope you had Hard SPL installed.
Do a search to see if you can find your carriers WM06 rom, it doesn't need to be WM05. Search is your friend here.
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yes i have hardspl installed,my spl ver is 2.10.olipro,but still like that

kahwah said:
original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks
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Hi!
You can get original carrier shipped WM6 rom for your mobile here!

thanks hemendra05!!1 more thing i want to ask,what is radio rom?what is the diffrence flashing radio rom and other ordinary rom?thanks

kahwah said:
thanks hemendra05!!1 more thing i want to ask,what is radio rom?what is the diffrence flashing radio rom and other ordinary rom?thanks
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Hi!
The radio ROM provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on the GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL)
Please go trough this page you have plenty of information related to all Hermes related queries one may have.. Hope it will be useful for you

Just remember though that if something stuffs up while flashing the radio rom, you are pretty much gonna end up with a brick... You may be able to use the PDA functions but phone will be gone forever...

same problem
I have a dopod 838 pro. Hardspl by olipro. Flashed roms with manilla 2d and right now suffering the same problem like kahwah..
Tried already the method of flashing original rom then to the cooked rom but still the same problem persist.
Can someone give me an idea on what to do next..

Seriously guys, both of you, READ the Hermes Wiki and the Noob section, they are set as stickies at the top of the thread. I mean, come on, you have not even posted 7 posts on XDA-DEVs and you already are close to bricking your phone.
READ the Wiki first!

htc touch up to 6.5???

looking to upgrade to 6.5 have downloaded 6.5 rom and dcd carrier for telus. i guess i install the rom 1st than the carrier? my radio is 3.41 do i need to upgrade it first? if so where can i get it?

You need to unlock your phone first and then you can install the 6.5 rom.
Though if you don't have an extended battery you'll end up with your phone dying a lot faster. I have an extended battery and it's all but dead after a day of normal use.

phone already unlocked. do i run dcd carrier after rom

try the rom out and see if you can send and receive calls, text messages, data work, and gps. If these don't work without the carrier cab then Install it. or you can just install it for the heck of it.

what about the radio currently 3.41.00 do i need higher??

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what about the radio currently 3.41.00 do i need higher??
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No, you do not. Any 3.xxx radio is GPS capable, and required for wm 6.1 and up.
Please read this FAQ, there is a flashing guide in the beginning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508544

jmitr said:
No, you do not. Any 3.xxx radio is GPS capable, and required for wm 6.1 and up.
Please read this FAQ, there is a flashing guide in the beginning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508544
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yeah, that faq is quite amazing if I do say so myself.

Orange SPV M3100 rom upgrade to WM6/6.1

my cousin has 2 orange spv m3100 and was thinking about upgrading them to windows mobile 6 or 6.1 depending on rom's available
is this easily done?
and would it be best to unlock the phone so it can go on all networks before the rom update or after it?
all advice would be great thank you

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...135315302196&extarg2=SPV+M3100&extarg4=select

xetnic said:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...135315302196&extarg2=SPV+M3100&extarg4=select
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this link is for wm5. orange never released a update for wm6 or 6.1. Id suggest super cid unlocking the phone and flashing from there. if you want a stock rom id idvise one of the HTC releases but if you want somthing fancy id go for the custom 6.5 builds. the os is still in beta but its not far off release now. its by far the best mobile os in my opinion. just be aware that theres a time limit on them so youll need to keep it up to date with the latest builds. older ones expire at the end of this month. the newest is 21728

Thanks for that FCW
if i flash it onto a 6.5 can i flash a 6/6.1 when my beta finishes?
ive saw some of the screens for 6.5 and it looks well nice, the whole layout seems to have changed

Jamesd00d said:
Thanks for that FCW
if i flash it onto a 6.5 can i flash a 6/6.1 when my beta finishes?
ive saw some of the screens for 6.5 and it looks well nice, the whole layout seems to have changed
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yes you can upgrade/downgrade as you please as long as you have hardspl and supercid unlock first.
Just in case you dont have them
SuperCid (this installs hardspl as well and sim and cid unlocking the device) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Just make sure you read the instructions before you run the tool. you dont want to do this wrong as it includes a radio flash.