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So when I first got my HTC Desire and installing some applications I of course came across the annoying message telling me I am running low on space.
So I rooted and installed a ROM with AppstoSD, and was happy again. Now I am back to the same issue, keeps telling me I am low. Which is true because after rooting I installed a bunch more applications lol
So my phone says I have 147MB total to use for Applications and such. Currently around 13 to 16MB. Quite annoying.
So with future Android updates or even hacks will applications ever install and run and store everything from an SD card? Because this expensive device I am locked into for 3 years is going to get pretty crappy and annoying if I have to uninstall applications I want to install other ones...
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Well as a2sd just works by creating a symlink to the ext partition on the sd-card, yous should be able to simply create one for /data/data as well. Because those data foleders are still stored on the data prtition, and those are the ones taking up space.
I Found a guide at some point, but i can't seem to find it now, but try searching around.
I have been looking around, and no luck. Why I started this thead
Anyone else, ideas, know a way?
to make app2sd work you need an ext partition. to do that download rom manager for free from market and create one. i suggest if use to install lots of apps select 512mb partition, set swap to 0mb. but keep in mind before creating the partition you should backup all data from sdcard because it will be formatted to create the partition.
and by the way please edit title cause this is Nand memory that you are refering to.
regards
Marios
mariosraptor said:
to make app2sd work you need an ext partition. to do that download rom manager for free from market and create one. i suggest if use to install lots of apps select 512mb partition, set swap to 0mb. but keep in mind before creating the partition you should backup all data from sdcard because it will be formatted to create the partition.
and by the way please edit title cause this is Nand memory that you are refering to.
regards
Marios
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Cant edit title.
And I clearly said I have AppstoSD working, it's just not enough.
My main question was simply, will in the future, apps2sd or whatever it will be called allow for applications to be installed, stored and run from the SD. If not my nice new phone is going to get quite annoying and useless.
if you say that you started with 147mb and now have 13-16mb and have app2sd, it means that you have a rom that supports app2sd but not aproperly created ext partition. that is why you are running low.
for example if you have a working EXT and still having left only 13mb on phone it means that you have installed aboout 300to500 apps. that is because although apps get installed on EXT but always leave a trace in phone memory(something like a shortcut).
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that is because although apps get installed on EXT but always leave a trace in phone memory(something like a shortcut).
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It's not always just a trace!
/data/data is left on internal memory (for stability reasons) and some apps, for example Google Earth, take up an awful lot of space there.
Regards,
Dave
mariosraptor said:
if you say that you started with 147mb and now have 13-16mb and have app2sd, it means that you have a rom that supports app2sd but not aproperly created ext partition. that is why you are running low.
for example if you have a working EXT and still having left only 13mb on phone it means that you have installed aboout 300to500 apps. that is because although apps get installed on EXT but always leave a trace in phone memory(something like a shortcut).
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So you are saying I formatted wrong when I did created the ext partition originally?
That's an exaggeration although on AOSP ROMs, same everything except HTC additions (mainly Sense), I have 35-40MB free while on HTC 2.2 ROMs I'm always juggling between 15-20MB free. I have A2SD fully working, 112 apps on. I don't see it as a big issue for me because I only need approx 85 of them from day to day, but to have the rest on and not have to worry and keep deleting things to keep the phone working would be very handy. Nearly all the quality apps with great features require much memory (don't even ask me about Rockplayers update). Most of them are still using a good chunk of the internal memory even after being "installed on SD card" for some portion but the killers are apps like Adobe Flash, Maps, HTC_IME, Earth, SMS/MMS, cache, emails, bookmarks, widgets and so forth. In fact, I only keep 2-3 emails and a few bookmarks stored in the default applications for this reason.
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So can someone show/link me to the correct settings with creating that ext partition, just incase I did do it wrong. Thanks
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i have an aosp rom. about 120 apps and still have 95mb of free space in phone memory. i have an ext partition of 512 mb.
That's an exaggeration although on AOSP ROMs, same everything except HTC additions (mainly Sense), I have 35-40MB free while on HTC 2.2 ROMs I'm always juggling between 15-20MB free. I have A2SD fully working, 112 apps on. I don't see it as a big issue for me because I only need approx 85 of them from day to day, but to have the rest on and not have to worry and keep deleting things to keep the phone working would be very handy.
So no ideas, anyway to edit an ext partition or something. Arg
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Hi all,
I want any sense rom with data2ext because then i got many MB free for apps.
How do i do this and is the speed acceptable?
Thank you!
Nick
easy:
1. root(if you havent already)
2. format sd-card with ext partition(like with a2sd but mybe a bit bigger partition)
3. install any rom with data2sd installed
and from my experience, no the speed is not acceptable. You will be much better off using a2sd+ which also gives you plenty of space..
mortenmhp said:
easy:
1. root(if you havent already)
2. format sd-card with ext partition(like with a2sd but mybe a bit bigger partition)
3. install any rom with data2sd installed
and from my experience, no the speed is not acceptable. You will be much better of using a2sd+ which also gives you plenty of speed..
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yeah ok.
but i want many apps installed.. likely big games. and some games MUST be installed to the phone.. so with 10 apps my phone is fully full.
i always got like ~130mb internal.
but i want data2sd cause then you got many many mb free for apps.
+ when i installs an app and move it to my sd ext. it still leaves something on my internal memory wich takes space. so apps2sd still takes quite much space on internal memory.
so you all got this problem?
You are not understanding the difference between a2sd and froyo apps 2 sd. The last one being the one, where you can move apps freely.
The oldstyle a2sd+ moves both apps and dalvik cache to ext, so even though it says you have only gotten 130 mb, it will fill up very slowly. I myself have around 100+ apps installed including google earth and some games, and i have no problem..
edit: and no you cant move apps to ext. The app2sd in froyo is moving them to a special folder on the fat32 partition, while the oldstyle a2sd+ have the /data/app and /data/dalvik symlinked to the ext-partition, so apps will always be installed to ext using this method.
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You are not understanding the difference between a2sd and froyo apps 2 sd. The last one being the one, where you can move apps freely.
The oldstyle a2sd+ moves both apps and dalvik cache to ext, so even though it says you have only gotten 130 mb, it will fill up very slowly. I myself have around 100+ apps installed including google earth and some games, and i have no problem..
edit: and no you cant move apps to ext. The app2sd in froyo is moving them to a special folder on the fat32 partition, while the oldstyle a2sd+ have the /data/app and /data/dalvik symlinked to the ext-partition, so apps will always be installed to ext using this method.
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ok so i took leedroid.
and posted this in his thread:
hi all,
i got the apps2sd version.
and i got ext3 876MB.
But at the first page it says: lots of free internal memory! on the apps2sd version.
but i only got 133 mb internal mb free.
So i dont think thats much?
cause my apps cant move to sd.
some can but not all games.
so my space is limited and i really need much internal memory!!!
please someone help me!
Greetings,
Nick
EDIT: and how can i check if my apps and dalvik cache are thruly on my sdext?
OMG!
Please read my post over again.....
a2sd works by symlinking some folders to your sd-ext partition. This will NOT mean that your system will measure plenty of space. Just that those 2-3 folders will not take up space on the /data partition, so installing apps only leaves a little bit of data and thus only decreases the free space a tiny bit. 2 see this better try installing "quick system info" which will let you see how much of the sd-ext partition is used. Then go install a lot of apps and see, if this fills your phone. It should not(only a2sd storage in quick system info should be filling up).
and to check, if they are there, install an app like root explorer and check /system/sd which should show the folders present on the sd-ext partition("app","app-private" and "dalvik-cache")
Are you using a2sd+ at all or are you manually moving apps to SD via application manager?
data2ext still has not matured enough with relatively high risk of data loss atm. I have no doubt the devs are working hard on it, but it is not ready yet to go mainstream. AuraXTsense sported data2ext in 8.1., yet it has returned to good ol' a2sd. It simply is not stable enough.
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mortenmhp said:
OMG!
Please read my post over again.....
a2sd works by symlinking some folders to your sd-ext partition. This will NOT mean that your system will measure plenty of space. Just that those 2-3 folders will not take up space on the /data partition, so installing apps only leaves a little bit of data and thus only decreases the free space a tiny bit. 2 see this better try installing "quick system info" which will let you see how much of the sd-ext partition is used. Then go install a lot of apps and see, if this fills your phone. It should not.
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oke thanks man!!
trying now
erklat said:
Are you using a2sd+ at all or are you manually moving apps to SD via application manager?
data2ext still has not matured enough with relatively high risk of data loss atm. I have no doubt the devs are working hard on it, but it is not ready yet to go mainstream. AuraXTsense sported data2ext in 8.1., yet it has returned to good ol' a2sd. It simply is not stable enough.
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I dont know. just the leedroid 2.3b A2SD version.
Check my edit in the other post on how to check, if the folders are moved probably
Am using Leedroid App2SD+ ROM and have 1gb ext with 756MB free, i have lots of apps installed but now my phone is showing low memory 15MB, so I have moved alot of the apps to SD card to try free up abit, but its not freeing up phone memory its still staying at 15MB.
Why wont all apps just use the ext? how do I get free phone memory back up again.
All help welcome thanks
All apps have to use internal /data/data folder to store libraries etc. So if you need more storage read about data2sd.
Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect (apps are already on the SD Card).
Try running a cache cleaner, maybe too much cache. Possibly a2sd+ is not working properly?
I never had that much low space on LeeDroid when I was using it (had 55 apps of my own installed).
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
Simply download terminal emulator from market, and then put su and a2sd cachesd or cachesdreset (it removes old dalvik cache from internal memory) commands.
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Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect
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Oh yeah it does. It ruins everything you were supposed to get with a2sd+.
decat said:
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
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Read better next time. It was regarding random access memory and not the internal storage memory.
Bartyzel said:
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
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He has a2sd+ with Leedroid. a2sd+==dalvik on the ext.
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Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
shankly1985 said:
Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
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Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
Bartyzel said:
Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
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I have made my mind up am changing rom, just ordered 16gb class 4 PNY sd card.
going to use starburst ROM, if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
shankly1985 said:
.......if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
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I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
angusc said:
I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
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I think I have just filled it lol got 75 apps but most of them are games big files, ill give starburst a go liking the sound of this ROM and if its true I should never fill the memory, if it not good ill go back to leedroid but start fresh format everythink.
With my old partition I did make it on windows like, so maybe thats whats happened, I am going to use gparted next time.
Hi everybody!
I've a Desire with stock rom 2.3 (and no root yet) and it worked fine until last week.
If I try to install a new app I receive an error about free memory space. I've already try to move all apps to sd but nothing, I can't install anything.
I've try also to do an hard reset and fully wipe/factory reset (from recovery) and for a while it seems to works, but if I install some apps the problem come back.
Why? What can I do?
A friend suggest that maybe there are some directory in filesystem from older app (now unistalled) and, since I haven't root permession, I can't remove them. With root permission can I fix it?
Thanks!
I flashed a custom rom on my desire which used the sd card as internal storage. Problem solved.
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Read this guide to s-off, and install a custom recovery
Use this guide to create a 1gb ext4 partition on your sd card. No swap.
Download a custom rom from the htc desire dev section and flash it. I would recommend milwilds redux rom. It will automatically install apps to the parittion and you will have space.
thanks for reply!
I'd like to fix this problem without flash new rom, eventually with root only. It's possible?
When I bought this there was space enough, why now I haven't? Factory reset does not erase all partition and sistems directories?
Thanks!
Also, before you flash the Rom, best to flash recommended hboot if necessary, read the first post or search each thread.
This way you use your internal memory more efficiently.
deshex said:
thanks for reply!
I'd like to fix this problem without flash new rom, eventually with root only. It's possible?
When I bought this there was space enough, why now I haven't? Factory reset does not erase all partition and sistems directories?
Thanks!
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Factory reset only deletes user data.
When you bought it, you didn't have apps installed, and probably apps were smaller back then.
What are you trying to say? That you want to flash a stock rooted ROM?
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Factory reset only deletes user data.
When you bought it, you didn't have apps installed, and probably apps were smaller back then.
What are you trying to say? That you want to flash a stock rooted ROM?
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Nope.
All my apps were installed somewhere in filesystem (maybe in /system?). My question is: when I do a factory reset, what I'm going to erase? Only user data in user directories, or all content of every system directory? (of course, not system files).
I'm only trying to understand why when I bought the phone I've a "lot" of space for my app and now, after a factory reset, I've not enough free space to install more then 2/3.
Example: I wipe/fr, reboot and config the phone; then I try to install Ruzzle (16Mb),Whatsapp (9Mb) and FB(18Mb). Now if I try to install any other apps I get the alert message of free space. Same error if I try to record a video or take a photo.
I think there is something wrong..
I hope that you can read and understand what I'm writing, my english is a little rusty
deshex said:
Nope.
All my apps were installed somewhere in filesystem (maybe in /system?). My question is: when I do a factory reset, what I'm going to erase? Only user data in user directories, or all content of every system directory? (of course, not system files).
I'm only trying to understand why when I bought the phone I've a "lot" of space for my app and now, after a factory reset, I've not enough free space to install more then 2/3.
Example: I wipe/fr, reboot and config the phone; then I try to install Ruzzle (16Mb),Whatsapp (9Mb) and FB(18Mb). Now if I try to install any other apps I get the alert message of free space. Same error if I try to record a video or take a photo.
I think there is something wrong..
I hope that you can read and understand what I'm writing, my english is a little rusty
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A factory reset will wipe /data, dalvik cache and /cache.
When did you buy your phone? I remember that, when I first bought my Desire, facebook was only 8mbin size, and moved to sd, it only took 2 mb of internal memory. Plus, large apps require large dalvik cache. That's why your memory gets filled so easily.
You can resolve easily and keeping your stock ROM (but you'll need a FAST microSD card, my 32GB is class 10):
1) Root and s-off your device
2) Format your microSD with an EXT2, EXT3 or EXT4 partition of 1GB, then the rest as FAT32 (you can do it directly from phone using the 4ext recovery, or you can format the card from PC using a tool for partitioning which supports linux formats... I don't know if I can mention names in this thread).
3) Install INT2EXT or INT2EXT+ from recovery.
4) You'll have 1GB internal memory with no out-of-space problems.
That's all
Stock kernel doesn't support ext4 nor ext3, use only ext2 if u want to keep it.
Anyway, I believe that supernova ROM would be a much better option, it's basically stock GB made by HTC with some tweaks and script for more space.
Thanks for replies!
I still do not understand why I've no memory for apps after a factory reset; if I wipe all data, I restore all space, like when I bought the phone. Ok, apps are bigger than 2 years ago, but not so bigger that with 3 apps I occupy all space!
Anyway I'm considering to upgrade to a newer version; if I must give root permission, install tools, repartition sdcard and so on, I might as well to flash a newer version.
Curiosity: are there filesystem directories that are not intrested from a wipe? Differently, which directories will not wiped during a factory reset?
Thank you very much!
deshex said:
Thanks for replies!
I still do not understand why I've no memory for apps after a factory reset; if I wipe all data, I restore all space, like when I bought the phone. Ok, apps are bigger than 2 years ago, but not so bigger that with 3 apps I occupy all space!
Anyway I'm considering to upgrade to a newer version; if I must give root permission, install tools, repartition sdcard and so on, I might as well to flash a newer version.
Curiosity: are there filesystem directories that are not intrested from a wipe? Differently, which directories will not wiped during a factory reset?
Thank you very much!
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yes what your seeing is caused by the apps being a lot bigger now. Facebook is a lot bigger.
And its impossible for your apps to be going to system. You'll have to root and use a2sd
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dethrat said:
yes what your seeing is caused by the apps being a lot bigger now. Facebook is a lot bigger.
And its impossible for your apps to be going to system. You'll have to root and use a2sd
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I've install over 40 apps until this problem, including big app like FB.. strange things...
So, how much memory I have?
Rom 4.x for desire has a different partitions? If I just flash a new rom (like 4.0/4.1), will I fix this problem?
Thanks!
deshex said:
I've install over 40 apps until this problem, including big app like FB.. strange things...
So, how much memory I have?
Rom 4.x for desire has a different partitions? If I just flash a new rom (like 4.0/4.1), will I fix this problem?
Thanks!
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You need a rom with an a2sd script, regardless of it being GB, ICS or JB.
Good, I will search in subforum for a new rom.
Maybe it's a bit OT, but JB rom are stable enough for daily use? Can you suggest me a JB rom with a2sd script? (or even ICS, if JB is not stable enough).
Thank you!
I use jb as a daily driver. The ROM in my sig is the most stable jb ROM I've tried. It has very few soft reboots and has decent speed. It also has a2sd. (Activated through terminal after flashing rom)
However if you really need stability, speed and reliability I would highly recommend using gingerbread. Mildwilds ROMs are great and most of them have an a2sd script as well, which is automatically activated. Try the one based on redux.
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I have a similar problem to this. I own a HTC Desire that is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery environment, and I got it running Cyanogen mod 7.2.0.1.
So I was reading around this problem, and there are several solutions. It seems the most foolproof way is to format your SD card and partition it so that you have an EXT3 partition, and a FAT32 partition as has already been suggested here.. This way you can use an app to fool your phone into thinking that it has the EXT3 partition of the SD card to use for internal storage as well as the 150MB of internal storage it comes with. I had an 8GB SD card so I did a split of 2GB for the EXT3 partition, and 6GB for storage of music, photos, etc. etc. I followed this handy guide to do it, and it worked a treat: (sorry, have been unable to post an external link as I'm a new user.. maybe I can post this later).
When I rebooted my phone, sure enough, it showed 2GB+ of internal storage, and I can install all the apps I want. However, I'm experiencing apps hanging and crashing all the time, and I know it was caused by this most recent change. Prior to this, Cyanogenmod was running just fine! I've read a bit more into since doing this, and a lot of people reckon you shouldn't use more than a 512MB SD card partition, as anything over this causes performance issues. Others disagree, and think that anything 2GB or below should be fine. Presumably the apps hanging/crashing is because there is fragmentation of data between the SD card EXT3 partition and the actual 150MB internal storage.
It's frustrating, as other than this the phone is still a very decent handset despite it's age... it's really the storage letting it down. Before I try factory resetting (again!) and going back and trying a 512MB partition, (or just going back to having only 2 apps installed!), has any one else had experience of this?
Any help very much appreciated.
kmanpilkers said:
I have a similar problem to this. I own a HTC Desire that is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery environment, and I got it running Cyanogen mod 7.2.0.1.
So I was reading around this problem, and there are several solutions. It seems the most foolproof way is to format your SD card and partition it so that you have an EXT3 partition, and a FAT32 partition as has already been suggested here.. This way you can use an app to fool your phone into thinking that it has the EXT3 partition of the SD card to use for internal storage as well as the 150MB of internal storage it comes with. I had an 8GB SD card so I did a split of 2GB for the EXT3 partition, and 6GB for storage of music, photos, etc. etc. I followed this handy guide to do it, and it worked a treat: (sorry, have been unable to post an external link as I'm a new user.. maybe I can post this later).
When I rebooted my phone, sure enough, it showed 2GB+ of internal storage, and I can install all the apps I want. However, I'm experiencing apps hanging and crashing all the time, and I know it was caused by this most recent change. Prior to this, Cyanogenmod was running just fine! I've read a bit more into since doing this, and a lot of people reckon you shouldn't use more than a 512MB SD card partition, as anything over this causes performance issues. Others disagree, and think that anything 2GB or below should be fine. Presumably the apps hanging/crashing is because there is fragmentation of data between the SD card EXT3 partition and the actual 150MB internal storage.
It's frustrating, as other than this the phone is still a very decent handset despite it's age... it's really the storage letting it down. Before I try factory resetting (again!) and going back and trying a 512MB partition, (or just going back to having only 2 apps installed!), has any one else had experience of this?
Any help very much appreciated.
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well,I don't use gingerbread anymore.but I can say that you can't experience a good performance to use both internal and external (sd-ext) partitions to use and install your apps. better choice is to use one of them.use default a2sd of rom,or use another script to install apps only in sd-ext partition. I have used and tested a lot of roms (GB-ICS-JB) and I can say in my experiences, that you don't have problem to use an sd-ext partition with about 1.5 - 2 gb size.you can see the recommendation of devs in first post of topics, and they tell us what is the minimum-maximum size for the best performance. sorry,i can't search and give you the links,but I just had a really good smoothness and speed with some scripts that you can try them: like mounts2sd, ad2sdx,... you can find link of them with search. and you can use cm7 int2sd version...but it has a bigger size than normal cm7. here is this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357257
@kmanpilkers
Which guide did you use to partition, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery.
-Ext4 should also be slightly faster than ext3.
-Anything up to 2gb is sufficient. Don't know where you read about limiting it to 512mb. The whole idea is to be able to install more apps on the partition, 512mb will fill up a lot quicker than 2gb...
-you can use space more efficiently by s-off and changing hboot, so you have more than 150 MB of internal. You are currently on stock hboot and have a lot of free wasted space on your /system partition
-depending on your Rom, stick with a single a2sd script, it may be built in or need to be activated, read the Rom thread. Then let it do it's job to move apps to the partition
chromium96 said:
Read this guide to s-off, and install a custom recovery
Use this guide to create a 1gb ext4 partition on your sd card. No swap.
Download a custom rom from the htc desire dev section and flash it. I would recommend milwilds redux rom. It will automatically install apps to the parittion and you will have space.
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Thank you. I've been searching for some time
Hi guys..
Hope someone will be so nice to help me..
So..I have this desire and it was running with the supernova rom. Problem is it gives me a annoying issue that i didn't manage to solve...not even reset it nor reflashing the rom. It always comes out again..
I decided to try some other roms...and in the last few days i flashed so many, but i never managed to make one to see the ext* partition...at second boot it always shows only some MB as internal memory.. I tried to do it on any way...formatting sd withing the recovery, from pc, flashing alignment..nothing..
Now i'm asking...do i have to have or to do anything special before flashing one of those roms? Why the supernova works with no problem and all the other never?
Thank you in advance
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
jmcclue said:
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
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I tried every possible way...as i told.. From recovery and from pc...
Titanium backup actually sees the ext partition...but..when i install the app...after a while internal memory gets full...so..
I don't know...i'm..disappointed and frustrated... Don't get why only tha supernova works as it should without any problem...
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You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
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How many apps do you have? over 50?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
How many apps do you have? over 50?
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Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
darkchild_74 said:
Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
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What rom did you try, except supernova?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
What rom did you try, except supernova?
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Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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Ok. Now let me explain what happens.
Supernova has a script that moves data/data to sd-ext. Data/data is the folder that occupies most of the data partition. It's the application data itself.
The other ROMs leave data/data on the internal memory, for performance reasons, and move other stuffs, like data/app, or dalvik cache to sd-ext.
You have many apps, so only moving dalvik cache and data/app isn't enough. You should be using ROMs that use INT2EXT or INT2SD scripts, like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961URL
Or, use the INT2EXT4 script from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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So you partitioned using 4EXT or gparted? (NOT minitool or clockworkmod recovery as recommended?) If not then backup your sd card and repartition, so we know that it's definitely properly done.
Before you reinstall all your apps in one go, just restore or install one. Then like I said, install 'Diskusage' as well, and try to find where this app has been installed to. If it's on sd-ext, then it's working, and if it's on /data, then it's not.
Depending on the ROM, some stuff will still get stored on the /data (internal memory) partition. So there is always an upper limit to how many apps you can install. Most of the time, app data gets saved on internal. Sometimes dalvik-cache also gets stored there, but you may be able to move it to ext.
Regardless of which ROM or A2SD method or other script, the first step is to work out and understand what is being stored where, hence why I keep recommending 'Diskusage'
Also you are still on stock hboot, which has a very low /data (internal memory) partition, only 147MB. Some ROMs are better on other hboots before you flash them as they have a smaller /system size, and thus a larger /data partition. For instance, many ROMs fit on cm7r2 hboot, with a larger 287MB /data partition which fills up a lot slower. If you decide on a ROM, all of them should say which hboot is best for it, you should download them from alpharev.nl, and flash them via fastboot, guide here.
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
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Glad it's starting to make sense. Yes that script should work for a lot of apps. Don't know about the "reloading system" issue, but your main goal is space for apps.
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
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It's always best if it is created using gparted or 4EXT recovery, they are the recommended methods by far.
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
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Yes, you are still on stock hboot. Once you understand why you may want to change hboot, it's worth the small 'risk', because that way you do actually get more internal memory . I believe on some of the ROMs you tried you simply ran out of memory faster because you didn't change hboot.
As for which hboot you use, it is entirely dependent on the ROM, you have to search this yourself. I would recommend a ROM with at least cm7r2 hboot, and a int2ext script if possible.
(And I'll keep recommend installing 'diskusage' until you try it and understand how and where all your memory is used)
Just to let you know i managed to change the hboot with proper one...partitioned the sd again via 4ext recovery..installed the right rom and it shows me the ext4 partiiom as internal memory..
Now just have to test it and see if i will get the same problem i was having with supernova, and if it works properly..
Thank you so much to both for the help...really appreciated...