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i am thinking about getting the touch pro2 but i am thinking how i could do this without data
so if i sign up for the phone and get the data and then 10 days later say the phone got stolen and put the sim card in a old motorola razr and tell them is this my replacement will that work? or are they going to still make pay for data service
i had att in the past and i was able to do that with them i don't know how understanding or lenient the tm csr's are.
if you tell them that it was stolen then they will block your imei. just call them and say you dont want the data plan. or get it for a short amount of time. then say that you have a different phone
Well you can buy the phone outright without a data plan but that could get expensive. I would just get it and then cancel the data plan later.
I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.
radek_mazur said:
I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.
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I thought the 24.99 plan no longer included msgs, was that grandfathered?
There is a unlimited msg + data for 34.99 together I know that but I never heard of the 24.99 internet coming with 400 messages. I guess it wouldn't matter for me because I use more then 400 messages a month.
there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.
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there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.
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correct
they stopped that plan about 3 months ago
and to the OP, in regards of taking off the data plan later on, you cant do it. its a requirement in purchasing the phone and cannot be removed without an early termination fee. T-mobile can see what phone you are using, when was the last day you used it, and your IMEI, so reporting it stolen will not do you much good
??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.
25 dollars a month totals up to 1100 over the two year contract. MUCH more than the cost of the phone unlocked. And remember, some people DO have wifi most of the places that find themselves throughout their normal days. This means that should they happen to need 3G or EDGE or whatever cell connection is available to them, it behooves them more to pay the small fees for a momentary use than the monthly twenty-five dollars. Other people find themselves using internet wherever and whenever, thereby benefitting more from a data plan. But it's for different users and different routines/lifes. It is idiotic to judge someone just because they don't want to be forced into a data plan. Heck, there was an article in wmpowerusers or wmexperts from a guy who HAD a data plan, but HATED the fact that he was now obligated to get one. One of the points is why can't a user decide what is best for him or her? Why must they pay for things they might rarely or never use based on their personal habits? And if you HAVE to have that kind of plan, then why is the phone going for so much subsidized?
And as has been stated many times, the phone isn't just about internet, it will not magically stop working if you don't have internet access. It has MANY functions and I personally want it for the whole kitten caboodle (with the exception of 3G as it is currently not an option for me), not for just one function.
rbw411 said:
??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.
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Ah yes, the voice of reason. Why would anyone not want a netbook that weighs ~2lbs, is approx 3-5x the size of the TP2, does not necessarily come with a touchscreen, for which they don't make a belt clip, but still has a resolution that isn't much better than a TP2, with even lower battery life (unless you separately order a nine cell battery that weighs almost as much as the netbook itself) and only slightly more portability than a regular laptop? I mean that's a perfectly reasonable TP2 alternative.
Does anyone actually remember when we used PDAs? Smartphones are not just internet phones. For those who use the internet on it, do you really need 24/7 uninterrupted access? If you do, can you even begin to imagine another consumer who might not have your exact needs/usage pattern, or for whom that kind of connectivity isn't worth an extra $300 a year (you can get the TMo version for ~$500 no commitment, meaning 2yr price only saves you $150 and extra data costs you an extra $600)? Can you imagine a consumer with more offline needs than online, one who is only out out of wifi range for minutes a day, and during those minutes, doesn't really care about data access?
Do what you need to do for yourself, but keep your self-righteous lectures to yourself when you don't have a fraking clue what you're talking about. Not everyone is exactly like you.
have you considered waiting til 9/3 for the release on sprint? much cheaper data plan, and im pretty sure the cdma phone has an audio jack, nice little bonus
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needless to say that you can get it for 199.99 with letstalk.com. and still have to have the same data plan as if you went with tmob directly.
so you save yourself the extra 150. which in 6months equals that same 150 for internet usage during your first 6months that is required to have until your obligation is over to have so you wont be penalized under letstalk.con restrictions. so you break out even. with the difference that you get the 6months of internet plan totaling the same if you paid their 350 price.
but i am hoping att will get it. waiting to see. in the meantime i will play with my new (older) BA and hopefuly the exec
by the time my contract is over and if att gets it i will stick with them for the reason of granfathered plans.
you could just buy it off craigslist for $350-$450, depending on your local market. no data required
Or you could just buy the phone at full price $550 which doesn't require Data.
i'm glad i got grandfathered in on my old 19.99 unlimited internet plan but alas no free mobile to mobile with my old myfaves plan
Newegg.com has the TMO TP2 for $199 w/ new 2 yr contract and does not appear to be requiring a data plan with the purchase.
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There is another solution, but only if you have a family plan.
1.) Buy the phone using promo code "Windows Mobile" through T-Mobile (found HERE)
2.) Add an additional line and get the TP2 for the discounted price
3.) Add the data plan to keep T-Mobile's panties unknotted
4.) Keep the phone for 3 weeks
5.) Call back after day 21 and tell them you do not want the line anymore.
6.) Pay the early termination fee ($200).
7.) Keep the TP2.
The phone itself normally costs $349.99 with a 2 year contract. With the promo code, you get it for $149.99 + $200 term fee = $349.99. Of course, the additional data plan will be prorated for those 21 days of "usage" which comes out to be around $17, but in the end you still have the phone and you can dump any T-Mobile SIM right in.
This is the BEST solution if you are one of the fortunate few who still have the T-zones service... which WILL do 3G! I've tested it on my friend's SIM card who still has T-Zones. I just hope he doesn't get any extra charges lol.
Guys any suggestions, the ones I have narrowed down are:
mobilephonesdirect, vodaphone (bus tariff) or mobiles.co.uk - all offer good mins, free handset, but i was looking for a cheaper tariff (i.e. £25 ish)
I got mine from mobilephonesdirect. I bought the PAY2GO version as it was cheaper than sim free. Then I haggle with my service provider and got a decent monthly rate so in the long run it works out cheaper.
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Guys any suggestions, the ones I have narrowed down are:
mobilephonesdirect, vodaphone (bus tariff) or mobiles.co.uk - all offer good mins, free handset, but i was looking for a cheaper tariff (i.e. £25 ish)
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Ive just got one from mobilephonesdirect... ordered yesterday at lunchtime.. arrived this morning @ 10am.. its at home waiting to be played with now!!
i did origionaly try Vodafone business contract, credit checked ok, but then final check failed - which ive jst found out was a glitch in the system! as that happened, i then went to mobilephonesdirect to get it!
howver - Vodafone business if it works is better - click via quidco and you can get £100 cash back! (feel free to share it for the tip!) - which is why im abit peeved now as if the vodafone one worked i'd be £100 CB better off..... i could sent it back and get the VF one.. but cant be botherd now... it needs to be played with! and would only resuly in more delay if i change now!
Thanks guys.
Did you fail the credit check as your not a business user or do they not check that
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Thanks guys.
Did you fail the credit check as your not a business user or do they not check that
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Credit check was OK - just got an email yesterday - the day i was expecting the phone to arrive.. saying they were unable to complete the order - had a call this morning from Vodafone asking if everything was OK with the new phone! - obviously they dont talk to each other! so was annoyed to here that actualy it was a system glitch and it should have gone through... they said i could cancel the order i have and do it with them.... but when they heard it was a vodafone contract anyway they werent so bothered about me canceling it and switching!
im also porting my number - so didnt want that to get lost in a system some where.
saying that - if you order in the next 50 mins from mobilephonesdirect you will have it to play with all long weekend!
i cant fault the service i recieved from them - it arrived this morning as promised!
I like the quidco and want to get a way from T Mobile.
Sorry does the quicdo only apply from vodaphone direct or can i do this from mobilephoendirect ?
direct as it has to track on their website.
Thanks just ordered the TP2 from Vodaphone with Quidco, so in theory i save £190 (£90 from Vodaphone and £100 from Quidco) nice, now just need to pursuade the Mrs to take on my TD2
£90 from Voda on the 3 monthsfree thing ? on a 24month ?
They are doing the first 3 month line rental from (so thats £90). i took out a 24mth contract (750mins, 250 text and 500MB data). Then hopefully the quidco on top of this (£100).
I set up a wiki with a HUGE list of vendors all over the place including most in the UK. Its got a price comparison list so you can see who's cheapest too. Hope it helps
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=rhodium_vendors
obsydian said:
all offer good mins, free handset, but i was looking for a cheaper tariff (i.e. £25 ish)
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Then you are being hopelessly unrealistic, I'm afraid.
Any SIM-only contract that includes "unlimited Internet" will cost you £20 a month right there. Vodafone give you the phone for free on a £30 a month, 24-month contract, which also included unlimited Interne. That means you are effectively only paying £10 a month for the phone, which means you get the phone for just £240, and that includes two years' interest-free credit thrown in for free. Compare that to the approximately £450 you'd be paying to buy the phone SIM-free. Or, for that matter, compare it to what you would pay if you got an iPhone 3GS on contract from O2. It's actually a very, very good deal. The only reason I didn't opt for that option myself is that Vodafone has an explicit 500MB a month data limit on their "unlimited" Internet deal (and even that isn't bad - Orange is also 500 MB a month, T-mobile is 1GB a month).
Bugger! Didn't know about the Quidco thing
Anyhoo, got mine on the Voda business 30 quid deal. I'm still pleased - unlimited landline is very important to me, and the 500mb data limit is fine for my needs. Plus the 3 month rebate meant I could end my contract with Orange early, without losing the money (still hadx three months to run).
Plus, I've got to say, Voda is a damn fine network. Three times this week I've been with friends on other networks who've lost signal, and Voda;s been rock steady.
The TouchFlo branding's ugly, but that's what XDA's for...
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Then you are being hopelessly unrealistic, I'm afraid.
Any SIM-only contract that includes "unlimited Internet" will cost you £20 a month right there. Vodafone give you the phone for free on a £30 a month, 24-month contract, which also included unlimited Interne. That means you are effectively only paying £10 a month for the phone, which means you get the phone for just £240, and that includes two years' interest-free credit thrown in for free. Compare that to the approximately £450 you'd be paying to buy the phone SIM-free. Or, for that matter, compare it to what you would pay if you got an iPhone 3GS on contract from O2. It's actually a very, very good deal. The only reason I didn't opt for that option myself is that Vodafone has an explicit 500MB a month data limit on their "unlimited" Internet deal (and even that isn't bad - Orange is also 500 MB a month, T-mobile is 1GB a month).
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Ermm not quite Mr the package in mentioned works out at £26.60 (averaged with discounts), that said the buggers declined my on the credit history
I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
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I have purchased a TP2 and have had it for about 1 month (with a billing cycle)... I still have T-zones, and I have not needed to upgrade, nor has T-mobile changed my plan. T-zones work at 3G speeds! $5.99 has never been so well spent.
i bought my tp2 from ebay for that reason, i don't have tzones but i do have unlimted data for 19.99 that they don't offer no more and tmobile wants you to buy a new plan that cost 25.99 or 35.99 with text messages. i didn't want that its to much money. but i now have had my tp2 for almost a month and they didn't switch nothing bc i never upgraded with them, and never renewed my contract. also i now get 3g speed.
hope that help your decesion. TP2 is awesome
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I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
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T-Mobile won't switch you automatically and you still can use T-Zones plan with the TP2.
i just got a new touch pro 2 from my friend 4 days ago and I have tzones $5.99 plan and it is working just fine with 3G.
When the phone first came out there was mass confusion within TMobile over whether a new plan was *required*. But it turned out the new plan wasn't required (and in fact not even any tweaks needed, full 3G right out of the box), but the staff did try to encourage users to change. I had TZones and was able to buy online at the TMobile site without it even asking about a plan upgrade (I took this route to avoid any problems with uninformed staff as I'd been in a branch where they wouldn't sell it without the upgrade, and had had conflicting answers from reps on the phone). A couple of days ago I was talking to the TMo rep on another matter, and he tried to get me to upgrade. He was surprised that TZones was getting me full internet. I said no thanks, and he somewhat reluctantly let it go.
I've heard of people getting full internet from just T-Zones. How exactly does that work cuz it's got me curious now.
t-zones will work with the TP2 and if you happen to have canceled your t-zones plan like me because the person at t-mobile told you it would not work anymore then you can use the 9.99 t-web plan but just make sure in connections you change the APN to Internet2.voicestream.com
TP2 SIM swap question
Hey,
I'm getting a TP2 for my wife with a required data plan at a discount. since I want the phone, I'm going to put my SIM card into it and use it with my T-zones and unltd loyalty plan, then give her a motophone and cancel the data plan. Will they require me to ditch my T-zones and pick up a new data plan or will that scenario only apply to her SIM card?
Thanks,
OZ
I originally had the T-Mobile Wing with T-zones working perfectly, but when the TP2 came out, I purchased it from the T-Mobile store (big mistake). I told them that I didn't use the internet at all and I wanted to keep my T-zones. Unfortunately, they told me that I had to get a smartphone plan at $25/mo and that I could not keep the T-zones intact. It sucks really hard because my friend still has his T-zones for his Dash and when I plugged his SIM card into my phone and my G1, everything worked through T-zones. Plus he got 3G speeds to boot!
If I did the WinMo promotion through T-Mobile, I could have just added another line on my family plan and gotten the phone for $150, keep it for 2 weeks, then cancel the line and pay the $200 ETF and whatever the prorated charges for the extra line would come out to be. I'd still have T-zones on my line, no contract extension, and a TP2 to boot. Either way, I would have ended up paying $400 w/tax for the phone.
On a side note, I called Customer Service and told them that the data charge was going to make my bill a little more expensive than what I could afford and asked them if I could return the phone and get T-zones back. The rep didn't address the return issue and T-zones, but instead offered to switch my $19.99 unlimited family texting plan to the old $9.99 unlimited family texting plan that was available a few years back.
Saving $10/mo is really nice, but I'd rather save another $20. Going to try the web chat with T-Mobile today and use the TZUNL599 code. I saw it HERE and I'm hoping it will work. Wish me luck!
roccotrisoliere said:
i bought my tp2 from ebay for that reason, i don't have tzones but i do have unlimted data for 19.99 that they don't offer no more and tmobile wants you to buy a new plan that cost 25.99 or 35.99 with text messages. i didn't want that its to much money. but i now have had my tp2 for almost a month and they didn't switch nothing bc i never upgraded with them, and never renewed my contract. also i now get 3g speed.
hope that help your decesion. TP2 is awesome
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I'm using the $10 non smartphone web plan with my TP2 with no problems
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I'm using the $10 non smartphone web plan with my TP2 with no problems
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Would this be the web2go plan? I heard that there was a data cap with that plan.
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Would this be the web2go plan? I heard that there was a data cap with that plan.
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i think the current web2go has a cap of 100mb (not sure by any means), but the old web2go/tzones for $5.99 was unlimited
diablc said:
I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
****update*****
I have purchased a TP2 and have had it for about 1 month (with a billing cycle)... I still have T-zones, and I have not needed to upgrade, nor has T-mobile changed my plan. T-zones work at 3G speeds! $5.99 has never been so well spent.
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Diablc,
Can you share, how to go about getting a cheaper data plan on TP2. I am currently paying the exhorbitant $25/mo
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I've heard of people getting full internet from just T-Zones. How exactly does that work cuz it's got me curious now.
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There are two different tzones. One is an old real unlimited internet plan that is grandfathered for some but for others has been replaced by web2go, a more expensive more limited option. The other is what they called their free prepaid data for a while -- that one limits you to a few sites + their store where you can purchase wallpaper and ringtones.
There was for a couple of years a workaround that opened up full internet on the prepaid free tzones, but AFAIK, TMo has completely shut those workarounds down. I've actually been meaning to try it out to make sure, but haven't gotten around to it.
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The prices are very reasonable on there!
You can get 300 mins unlimited texts and internet for £20 a month and £129 for the phone
Are you saying that the Desire is in stock, or just that you can preorder?
Preorder but apparently it will be in stock on the 26th
I just called customer services to ask for an upgrade and was told it wasn't available yet. I pointed out that it was on their website but they don't think it is in stock.
Seems very resonable.
Any word on branding or if it comes unlocked? Also what is everyone's experiance of T-Mobile as a network? I'm on O2 at the moment, a bit fed up with a lack of 3G most places I go.
Edit: Also worth going through Quidco or TopCashBack, £35 cashback if it all works ok.
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Ouch, some of the deals are fantastic!
£60 for the phone, 18 month contract, £30 a month:
600 mins
500 texts
unlimited internet
+ a booster - I'd choose Unlimited T-mob to T-mob calls, then give my girlfriend a T-mob PAYG sim.
Seriously considering cancelling my deal with mobilephonesdirect...
EDIT: After a quick think, I realised if I wanted this Booster I could add it to my contract for £5.00 a month extra, which is £90 over 18 months.
With going through mobilephonesdirect, I save £60 with the handset being free, £30 cashback, £30 memory card, £15 insurance.. So that's £135..
Meaning to have exactly the same contract between T-mobile and mobilephonesdirect.co.uk, it'd cost £45 more for T-Mobile.
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Yeah you can pre-order - stock expected 26th of March.
Pre-ordering will take the cash / credit check tho. So you're essentially signed up, just waiting to take delivery.
I went for
£164 + 10/pm deal.
Comes out to a total of £404 over life of contract.
Perfect for me, as wife will take the sim.. 100 mins / unlimited texts / unlimited internet is plenty for her. As she mostly texts / facebook.
And life time cost of the contract is the cheapest in UK . Chuffed
I dunno what to do
I've place an order at mobiles.co.uk for vodafone, 600 mins unlim texts for £25 but will have to pay an extra £5 a month for unlimited internet making it £30. (free phone, 24 months).
I can get it on Friday from T-Mobile for £5 a month extra with 1200 minutes, unlim texts and internet but I didn't really want to go for T-Mobile again (coverage in Birmingham not too good). I also didn't want to spend more than £30 a month AND get a free phone. Just dunno weather I can wait when I know T-Mobile customers will have theirs on friday
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I've had 'HTC Desire availability' email from T-Mobile this morning. Just going through all the options - from T-Mob directly and third party sellers for the best deals. This is hard work!
My deal on T-mobile
Just phoned up T-mobile, this is the deal I managed to get:
£15 p/m; 300 mins, unlimited data, unlimited texts (via Flexible Booster) Contract length 18 months; phone for free.
Phone will be delivered when 'upgrade' stock arrives- this Thurs/Fri.
Of course the above is not a 'standard' deal; had to be put on to the retentions dept etc. I've been with T-Mobile for about 14 years now.
Yerp - also got confirmation from MPD that they're expecting to ship phones out on April 5th.
Where T-Mobile release date is 26th, so should get my shiney new HTC Desire on Friday.. At least i hope.
Glad i went for direct T-mobile
This is not logic!
We should have full review by now if the Desire is already on sale
They probably don't have it in stock, but have a confirmed date.
This site say "Please allow up to 7 days for delievery"
I've had it confirmed that if you do order from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk, you only get 1GB cap allowance for the internet.
Nobody knows what will be the given SD card?
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Nobody knows what will be the given SD card?
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I'm sure I remember seeing 4GB when T-mobile had the phone as 'Coming Soon'. But that detail doesn't seem to be there any more.
Dear all,
Here's a little tip: Recently I purchased my HTC Desire, like many of you did, through T-Mobile utilising their 300 texts and 300 minutes with free internet 'booster' tarrif, however this morning my first bill arrived so I promptly registered on their site and checked my tarrif.
Delving through T-Mobile's 'booster' options I found this small print:
Internet for 'always-on' phones (Android™ and Windows® Mobile). If your phone needs an 'always-on' internet connection, internet will be included in your price plan, so you can choose a different Flexible Booster. This will be highlighted on the phone overview page.
I've phoned T-Mobile who told me on their records I had a Nokia N600 (which I don't) and now that they've set me up correctly with an HTC Desire I can indeed use my booster for something else (as internet is included as default). So now I'm getting unlimited texts and internet for £25pcm. Nice.
Surely you should've been told in the T-Mobile Store and it does say on the store, still it is an awesome deal and has essentially sold it for me
No, I bought it from Mobilephonesdirect. 18 month deal for less than T-Mobile would offer a 24 month deal to me for.
Oh, i didnt realise you could change it if you bought from 3rd party, will be getting that changed then!
Yeah, you can change the flexible booster once a month i think.
however, by the sounds of it, it's MPD's fault for not telling you about the features of your contract properly.....
when you order from the t-mobile website, it tells you you get internet included and one more free booster to choose from.
So does that mean that you can order a phone on a third parties contract that isn't stated as unlimited internet, such as the £20 unlimited text on MPD and still get unlimited data as it's an android phone?
this has just made my day think I will give them a call later see what the deal is cheers for the info
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Hi guys any more news regarding this? I've held out on a purchase from MPD thus far, but if this is true I will hold out no longer
If you're going onto t-mobile, then buy direct.
that way you definitely get the both. MPD may not put you on the right contract.
And besides, T-mobile are doing better deals direct i believe...
They did do better deals until they upped their prices! I might just wait and see if they drop them back down when they get a proper amount of stock..
didn't realise they had....thinking about it though, they did the exact same thing last august when i got the hero, and a couple of years ago when i got the Athena...