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Every ROM I flash pretty much comes with ADW Launcher, this ran really slow on my phone, i don't know why. I heard good things about launcher pro so I installed that, not to wild about the look but it runs fast!
What about the stock android launcher? Also runs slow! Why is that? Is this normal for all desires?
It's CDMA for the record
i hav a gsm and all the launchers are speedy on my desire.
did you wipe before you flashed?
regards
Yep, did all that jazz.
On my device, I also noticed that Launcher Pro seems to be faster than other launchers. However, every other launcher I've tried, including the stock Rosie runs very fine. Currently I use the Rosie launcher from the HTC Desire Z and it is faster than the old one.
All GSM, of course (not that I'd think it has anything to do with your issue).
I've tried all the launchers mentioned + several more and LauncherPro is by far the best (it even has memory consumption settings that you can set based on your needs). Out of the box you're right its not much of a looker but you can very easily pimp it up using a website (they also have a paid app available in the market) like LauncherPro Icons
i have problem with my desire and using launchers on temprooted device - i tried all of them and its slow and i have problem with overheating anyone have same problems?
I'm using GO launcher EX 2.35 with Cyanogen 7, it is amazing and really fast.
imcurrently on cm7 rc2 with launcher pro but im beyond sick of the homescreen lag on adw and launcher pro and would perfer a stock launcher that runs smooth as smooth can get. is it even possible to have the nexus s lwp running on a rom without any lag? i tried oxygen and redux but 4 some reason after i reset my phone, i get sim card errors. posted multiple helpposts but to no avail. any1 have suggestions? its to the point im contemplating going back to stock just so i feel stable again
ADWLauncherEx works a dream on CM7. Search the forum for the launcher built by Google. It runs smooth. As for a Gingerbread rom, CM7 works well and I have no issues with it at all (currently using RC2). Oxygen is good but I had rebooting and bootloop issues with it because it is useless. Tried Redux about 2 month ago and it was ok to use. For me at least, CM7 works the best but go ahead and try them out.
You can try Zeam, very fast and stable.
raster77 said:
You can try Zeam, very fast and stable.
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I can vouch for Zeam too it's very quick and smooth, very nice launcher with some nice tweakable bits (dock, screen rotate, etc.). I'm using GingerVillain 1.6 and I'm very pleased with the results although using Launcher Pro as got bored with Zeam (only because I like to change things fairly regularly!). GingerVillain is a slimed down CM7 from what I can work out although never used CM7 myself. It still comes with CM Settings built in and the notification widgets which I believe started life in CM Roms. If you find a really smooth GB rom I'd be interested in your thoughts as I'm always on the look out for a good smooth/fast up to date Rom!
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ADWLauncherEx works a dream on CM7. Search the forum for the launcher built by Google. It runs smooth. As for a Gingerbread rom, CM7 works well and I have no issues with it at all (currently using RC2). Oxygen is good but I had rebooting and bootloop issues with it because it is useless. Tried Redux about 2 month ago and it was ok to use. For me at least, CM7 works the best but go ahead and try them out.
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I was the same, no issues with CM7, but I did like Oxygen, so I flashed it again last night, boot loop within the first 12 hours. Found a supposed fix this morning. Apparently the time_in_state file is only designed to handle a max of 20 cpu steps, making the time_in_state file read only is supposed to fix the issue as a temporary measure. I've not had a loop since, but it was only 8 hours ago that I made the change, so time will tell. As far as smooth goes though, Oxygen is the smoothest I've tried if you don't experience the bootloops. (Some do some don't)
How about trying them all like everyone else does instead of asking pointless questions?
Hi, I have not changed ROMs in a while. I used to have Skyraider Vanilla and now I have Senseless Revolution. While I like my current ROM, after like 2 months of stableness, I got a boot-loop and had to restore (and I lost quite a bit). So, I now want a new ROM. But, there are soooooo many choices. While I would like to try them all, I was wondering if you guys could recommend me a few based on my preferences:
-Stability: I want a ROM that is very stable--no boot loops!
-Battery Life: I want a ROM/kernel that gets good battery life.
-Performance: I want something pretty fast, but speed is not a top priority for me.
-Features: I really am not into all of the fancy aesthetics. I don't use widgets and I use Launcher Pro. So, I guess I don't need/want a Sense ROM.
-Random: I really like a black notification bar, so anything that has the ability to have one is preferred.
Overall, I guess I just want something very simple with good battery life and pretty good speed. If you guys could recommend a few ROMs/kernels to try out I would be very appreciative. Thanks!
Honestly, I had skyraider 3.2 sense for months and I finally made the switch to Cyanogenmod 7 nightly and I've been so happy about it. Only a few kinks here and there but nothing a reboot can't fixed. RC2 just got announced as well for it and it's pretty stable. Battery life on it has been awesome as well, but I use set cpu for underclocking and screen off profiles.
Key notes: Very fast rom, no 720p camera.
I second CM7 for what your looking for.
Thanks guys, I was looking into those and they look good for my preferences! However, I am confused--what is the difference between Cyanogen Mod 7 and CM7 Nightlies?
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Thanks guys, I was looking into those and they look good for my preferences! However, I am confused--what is the difference between Cyanogen Mod 7 and CM7 Nightlies?
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CM7 = CyanogenMod 7, so no difference there.
Nightlies just refers to the fact that releases are pushed out (or I should say, were pushed out) every night.
If you flash the newest nightly then you are flashing the most recent upgrades/fixes/etc, but you also risk a slight chance that an instability has been recently introduced. For example, on a recent nightly, GPS problems cropped up, but then they were fixed a day or two after they were discovered.
The RC's are the Release Candidates. They are supposed to be stable releases that could potentially be the "final product." RC2, however, the last RC for CM7, had mixed results in the community. I'd say you're better off flashing the most recent nightly.
MAGNOLIA (Desensitized!)
With either the stock kernel or HeyItsLou's kernel (for stability/battery life)
I am running this desensitized (LauncherPro Plus user here) but with Ziggy's kernel (I like to overclock) and have NO bootloops. It is fast because it is re-engineered, and it is even faster after desensitizing!
Even with my overclocking habits, I consistently get 6 hours of UPTIME with heavy use, and 7 if you bump charge and turn the screen down a bit
Pros: It has 720p video recording, a redone "Matte Sense" theme, which means its not flashy, but very nice on the eyes!
CM7 is nice, but I had many, many bootloops on RC2 and the nightlies around that time.
I use a combination of CM7RC1 and incredikernel 2.6.37.4. I also use Go Launcher EX. ADW is just so darn slow for some reason. Plus I like the scrollable dock. It also reduces the need for an app manager and task killer cuz it does all those built into the app drawer. So far no reboots or freezes. And only so far PDANet was crashing, but I just reinstalled it and all was fine. Other than that this setup has been more smooth than OG Sense.
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
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Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
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Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
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So, I went from SR3.5 which I LOVED to the new SR4.0, which I love because of the Sense UI 2.0 and the new customizable rotary lock screen... BUT I've had nothing but battery life issues since...even using chads kernel, or set cpu, and even auto task killers. I notice almost all my apps constantly run all the time, even after force stopping them, they start right back up 5 mins later.
So, I'm taking the axe to SR4.0 until it's fixed...which leaves me with the option of going back to SR3.5 with my recovery...but I've seen all it has to offer.
Even though I love Sense UI, I CONSTANTLY hear great things about CM....which leaves me with a couple questions, since I never used it before...and I know it's not a sense ROM.
Which is more stable and feature rich, CM6 or CM7?
If I go from CM7.0.0 to 7.0.1, 7.0.2, etc...will I have to do a full wipe and start over again, or can I just upgrade it?
Other than Sense UI, and CM7 being GB, what's the major differences between CM and SR?
Is there a way to have the same customizable rotary lock screen like on SR4.0 with CM6 or CM7?
Does CM6 or 7 have the stock keyboard? or is there a way of using the stock one on the rom?
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
First, you don't want to use a task killer as that could be the cause of poor battery life. SR doesn't really have any bloat apps so I don't know what you would need to kill.
I haven't used CM6 but I see no reason not to go to anything but the more current CM7.
I'm not sure on the wipe question but I want to say no, just cache and dalvik.
As for the lockscreen, yes, SR borrowed that feature from CM7. Even more lockscreen options like lockscreen gestures, etc.
I'm not sure what you mean by stock keyboard, I assume you mean stock HTC keyboard? If so, then no there's no way to use it but IMO the gingerbread keyboard is better..
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Thank you for the info! Another thing I'm wondering...I have the stock froyo radio...I couldn't find the info on the CM7 section really, but do I need to change to a newer GB radio to use CM7?
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Thank you for the info! Another thing I'm wondering...I have the stock froyo radio...I couldn't find the info on the CM7 section really, but do I need to change to a newer GB radio to use CM7?
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No need to change from the stock radio