[Q] Doubles Battery Life: Data Connection Switch in ROMs (like Juicedefender)? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
i've been using Juicedefender lately.
FYI, Juicedefender lets you toggle the data connection (3G or Wifi) based on certain conditions (screen off, timeout, traffic/time ...) and do periodic data syncs.
I did this because i found out that the data connection is one of the biggest battery drainers. I was right: With casual usage over the day, my battery life at least doubles!
But the Juicedefender app has a really terrible UI and all, so my suggestions is:
Why not integrate this functionality into some ROMs? This would greatly improve battery life and could be a really slick functionality!

Why should it be integrated? Custom roms are made to give the owners of a phone the choice to change their device. If the UI of juicedefender isn't very good, maybe someone could make another one.

... because this is a system functionality which could be integrated into a ROM much more elegantly than with a regular app, IMHO.

Why would you integrate something that's based on personal preference? I'd hate it if my phone wouldn't sync my social media and mail when the screen is off.
It's common knowledge that the data connections are the biggest battery drainers by far, and there are plenty ways and apps that help you manage them already.

jesus people, calm down! i'm not saying that it should be FORCED on people or that i shouldn't be an optional flashable part.
but the available apps are only able to do it in a very rudimentary way (by changing the apn name to bull**** e.g.). i'm just saying that a nice ROM support for something like this would be great!
btw: you should try the periodic sync! do you REALLY need constant sync while the phone is in standby? if no - and you can live with syncs every few minutes - you will greatly improve your battery life!

Disagree to your opinion about JD. UI is great for me. Maybe you don't know how to use it.
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js931 said:
jesus people, calm down! i'm not saying that it should be FORCED on people or that i shouldn't be an optional flashable part.
but the available apps are only able to do it in a very rudimentary way (by changing the apn name to bull**** e.g.). i'm just saying that a nice ROM support for something like this would be great!
btw: you should try the periodic sync! do you REALLY need constant sync while the phone is in standby? if no - and you can live with syncs every few minutes - you will greatly improve your battery life!
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The part in bold highlights what peeps here who disagree with you are saying. Because you want this in a ROM doesn't mean everyone would. I for one would also want data sync in standby, never mind the battery drain.
I understand your point though, that it could be an alternate ROM or a flashable zip. But then why bother when, as mentioned above, there are a myriad of apps that already do this?
Maybe you should have a poll and if it's wanted enough, one of the ROM gurus will consider it?

Try SuperPower if you don't like JuiceDefender. It does not use APN renaming and provides a lot of options (including 2G/3G switch which saves the battery even more than data)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807989&highlight=applications
(I cannot post links)

JD UI is crap for sure. Switching to EDGE instead of 3G will improve your battery life by give or take 50%.
JD would be great if schedules would function properly, but since it causes issues with HTC mail for example, it is not an acceptable solution. I will not bash your idea since Desire HD has implementation of power saver in It's settings. No one forces you to use it even if it was implemented. Fcuk social networks, cellphones serve for you to be accessible. With battery life of about 10hrs, you aren't. Most of the time at least.
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never rooted before. read the quide. what are the pros/cons?

I've never tried modifying software on phones before, I've done wii's, xbox (original), ps3, ds, etc, and had success with them all, so I'm sure I will have no trouble with the actual process, but my question is simple, why?
right now, the only thing I really want to do that I cannot with a stock rom is change my boot animation. I've seen the "fresh" rom that I hear is one of the more common and liked roms out, and I see little visual difference from the stock one besides removal of some sprint apps (some that I could do without, and some I would have to go and reinstall).
excuse my ignorance, but what exactly would I be gaining out of this besides removing some useless nascar apps and being able to change my boot animation? also, will I have to reinstall all the apps I have downloaded/installed, the settings I've changed, etc? will I have compatibility problems with new apps that I download? will the performance be better or worse, and what about the battery usage?
I tried to look around first and some up everything I had to ask in one general post so others can learn from my curiosity. thanks in advance.
You will gain (in no particular order)
Read/write acess
acess to rooted apps like Titanium backup and wifi thether
Free wifi (with wifi thether and no longer having to foot a 30 dollar add on every month)
change/alter most aspects of the phone , boot animations and other stuff
flash awesome roms including a almost done froyo rom and a host of others
Increased battery life on all of them ( VERY SIGNIFICANT battery life)
Just having the choice to have your burger your way.
Oops , I meant phone.
howdyace said:
You will gain (in no particular order)
Read/write acess
acess to rooted apps like Titanium backup and wifi thether
Free wifi (with wifi thether and no longer having to foot a 30 dollar add on every month)
change/alter most aspects of the phone , boot animations and other stuff
flash awesome roms including a almost done froyo rom and a host of others
Increased battery life on all of them ( VERY SIGNIFICANT battery life)
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I did it because I was reading about the battery life. I don't know what read/write, boot animations, etc are but I NEED the nice phone to work atleast some of the day on a battery, and with root... it was like night and day for battery life savings on the damagecontrol mod.
howdyace said:
You will gain (in no particular order)
Read/write acess
acess to rooted apps like Titanium backup and wifi thether
Free wifi (with wifi thether and no longer having to foot a 30 dollar add on every month)
change/alter most aspects of the phone , boot animations and other stuff
flash awesome roms including a almost done froyo rom and a host of others
Increased battery life on all of them ( VERY SIGNIFICANT battery life)
Just having the choice to have your burger your way.
Oops , I meant phone.
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i have found by simply adding widgets to one of my home screens (wifi, 4g, gps, hotspot, bluetooth, and mobile) and keeping them off when unneeded, in conjunction with using task manager to kill apps after i am done using them, that i have a much better battery life than before. usually i can go through the day without charging it at all now. that is not a major concern now, more battery life is always a good thing though, but i assume that the rom would achieve this much like the way i do.
i duno. maybe i dont know enough about what you can do with read/write access and the other roms, i've seen some pics and info on froyo and while it looks slightly different, its not enough inspiration to root. it has an update all button for apps which is nice, but i really didnt see anything else completely a must have or really convenient. i guess ill have to look into the roms more to decide if it's worth it
most of the stuff you see and that the average user would care about...do not require root. just using different launchers (adw.launcher, helix, launcherpro, etc) and things like "smart shortcuts" and "Flikies HD" and "digital clock widget" allow me to get my visual layout...none of them require root.
this was my screen before root...it's not much different now.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers. com/showpost.php?p=6780015&postcount=219
why climb mt everest?
why jump out of a perfectly good airplane?
i like being able to take an 'image' of my phone (ie: like ghost for computers)
titanium backup is really quite handy...but really only for those that reload the phone's os on a regular basis.
i like seeing the # prompt in the cli. (but really, how many folks do?)

[Q] CoreDroid HD 5.3 battery life

Gday,
Just wondering If I could get some round about figures from you guys that are using combinations with latest 5.x Coredroid Roms and radios on what your general battery life has been like.
I ask for round about figures e.g. percentage of battery decrease per 30 mins on dependence of phone usage because I realize how much battery life can be affected by many different variables.
My setup is:
ROM - CoreDroid HD 5.3 (full wiped and non-titanium app install)
Radio - Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3 (Given 2 days to take effect and so far best 1 I've used)
Auto Brightness
Have gone back and forth between live wallpaper and wallpaper but didnt notice much change
Screen animations all on
I'm now in the process of the battery calibration found on Hemorrdroids.net. I was getting about 5-10% battery drop per 30 mins with mobile network on, auto sync on and moderate usage (mainly browsing xda and web + facebook and emails).
So I thought I'd give the battery calibration ago just to see if I can limit the drain a little bit more.
So any other figures provided would just help me to work out if Im on par and Im definitely getting the most out of my battery
With my desire hd with the 12.48 radio and cm7 it takes much less than with core droid 5.x i dont know how much less but a lot........
IN-Freak said:
With my desire hd with the 12.48 radio and cm7 it takes much less than with core droid 5.x i dont know how much less but a lot........
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Yeah I've heard that about CM, I guess you can put that down down to the drain that htc sense causes.
I would switch to a non-sense rom such as cm7, But I still prefer some features of sense.
I guess I have to make a bit of a sacrifice to get those features
pezza313 said:
I would switch to a non-sense rom such as cm7, But I still prefer some features of sense.
I guess I have to make a bit of a sacrifice to get those features
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I prefer a few sense widgets like the friendstream
why don't you try mikes revolution rom, its with android 2.3.3 and sense 2.1?
IN-Freak said:
I prefer a few sense widgets like the friendstream
why don't you try mikes revolution rom, its with android 2.3.3 and sense 2.1?
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Yeah I did and I found I was getting fairly similar battery life with coredroid, So i decided to stick with coredroid because I prefer the visuals and the performance seemed very similar for me as well
Oh ;-)
Then try an alternative launcher on cm7 like spb mobile Shell ;-)
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Try these!
First, You need to turn of auto sync, just back up or sync by manual.
Second, Remove account of HTC facebook. It's always sync therefore it drain battery fast.
Vothana said:
Try these!
First, You need to turn of auto sync, just back up or sync by manual.
Second, Remove account of HTC facebook. It's always sync therefore it drain battery fast.
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Turned off auto sync a couple of hours ago after my battery calibration because I knew it was a contributing factor haha cant believe I had it on.
Am yet to remove my facebook account because I dont no if I can do without that synced haha .
It probably would be wise to only update manually
I use extended controls (might also be possible with widgetsoid) to quickly switch to GSM only when I'm not using my phone out in the wild. That and turning data off when you don't need it (easily done from notification settings screen) will save a hell of a lot of battery over using 3G/auto with data on.
extended controls is a brilliant tool!
It often helps me, too
i think the same.. extended controls are cool for control a good batery drain... and in addition i have WIDGET ON/OF by pedro maicas (android market) for cut the 3g conection
for the flip and clock for example...

Acesmod 007 -battery life and performance

Hey xda
I come from cyanogen7 and went for the acesmod rom because I was missing the nice widgets, looks, and overall performance of sense. I have now spend some time on acesmod and I must say that it looks very nice and I especially think that the sense keyboard works a lot better when writing danish.
My problem is now that I find acesmod drinking my battery like crazy. Besides this I find it to be lagging a lot and not that smooth a experience that one could expect.
Do anybody know what I could do about this. Have you guys experiences the same.
Alternatively I am open to other sense based roms.
Thanks xda people!
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sense roms do use considerably more battery than cm7 roms, nothing you can really do about it apart from maybe calibrate your battery, theres a thread on here about how to do it
Again, calibration is not to be used to increase battery performance... Disable htc.com sync, use as less widgets and let them sync as rarely as possible. Disable pocket mode too, sign out of Latitude and make sure that your market and maps are not in the foreground when you turn your screen off as they won't release the wakelock then.
I can hear that there is not much I can do. Had every updating things disabled and also got the black wallpaper for power saving.
Are there then any sense based roms you would prefer over acesmod 007?
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I have good battery life on 007 mod.... But I have used only sense roms, so I cannot compare it to others.
mine life battery is good, try using andrev_oc
andrev_oc? (This is only my second rom)
see here how to install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16803896&postcount=355
hope it helps
edit: with ES File Explorer (in settings tick the root explorer and mount file system) copy the freqs to system/etc/andrev_oc
Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
The new 007 mod (v39) has even better battery life!
And the speed...
lenyy3212 said:
Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
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and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
elliottg61 said:
and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
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It's definitely more informative than what you've posted... :-\

[Q] sense contact management

Hi guys, i'm searching a rom for my htc desire z.
I tried a lot of different solutions: original (bad battery life), cm7 ,miui and now virtuos ..
Considering i'm completely addicted to sense contact management but i can't stand with battery life management of virtuos rom, do u think it exist any rom which can allow me to manage contact and their social profile as sense does?!
Battery life is a function of a ton of different variables. But one of the most important is the radio, how well it plays with the ROM, and the reception in your area. You might try different radios, and/or RIL match them to the ROM.
Best battery life I have seen on a Sense ROM is Unity. I went from a 24 to 36 hrs on the stock ROM before needing to charge, up to easily going 48 hrs or more on Unity. This is with pretty light usage. Its a Sense 3 ROM, and all of them are laggy as our hardware is simply not designed for Sense 3. But many people still love Sense 3 ROMs, and there are ways to tweak them to make them smoother.
There is an app, free on market, called Contacts by Contapps. Pick any lightweight ROM (Virtuous G-Lite, any AOSP ROM, etc..) and use Contacts to manage your contacts like you would on Sense. Able to sync and use your FB Contact information as well as use their display pictures. Works very nicely IMO. Not 100% exact, but performs necessary functions.
I use the stock ROM, pre-rooted with the Unity V10 kernel. This is tweaked to be undervolted (but slightly overclocked to 1Ghz) among other things to be quite efficient with power. I usually get 24 hours with medium / heavy use up to 36-48 hours with light use.
Standard other things are:
Be strict with Accounts and Sync, make sure things only sync when they need to.
Background apps, be aware of apps that sit in the background consuming power. Check in About - Battery.
I've recently caught "Privacy - Backup" to be consuming a lot of power on my phone.
Use WIFI when you can, its more efficient than HSPA
Disconnect WIFI when not in range, it will constantly scan for networks.
See how you go..
Craig
Thx guys for your reply ,i'm going to try those roms and apps... I'll answer you after a crash test

[Q] is the nexus laggy?

Hello all!
I'm currently looking into buying the gsm galaxy nexus (S. Korea) and am torn between it and the Galaxy s3, which hasn't been released here yet. I was just hoping to hear from Nexus owners, is there any choppiness or lag to the Nexus (stock version) at all? (app drawers, moving in homescreens, transitions to menus, etc.)
I saw the video posted by xda demoing the S3 and was impressed by how smooth and seamless all the transitions were! Honestly, I love the Nexus design more than the S3 and don't really like the way touchwiz looks.
I don't mind that the Nexus falls behind in terms of specs, I'd just love to hear that day to day use of the phone is a smooth and frustration-free experience...
Thanks!
Not really, and if there is, you can root and fix it.
No.I take it for daily use(no game)and it just runs like flying.
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494685&highlight=laggy
After about 6 months of having this phone I can tell you I've had no lag issues whatsoever with stock. I've used animated wallpapers, multiple browsers, graphic intensive games, hd movies and do not remember the phone staggering at all.
In contrast my transformer prime does lag all the time, which doesnt make sense, since the hardware specs are better. But thats not related to your question.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try it somewhere, do so. It's always better to see it for yourself.
Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
Well said wiredpirate. I have no lag issues here.
WiredPirate said:
Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
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Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
mataee said:
Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
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As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
WiredPirate said:
As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
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Im running an AOSP Rom and get easily a full days use with an on screen time of about 3.5 hours and 75% brightness. This phone kills my HTC Vivid on battery and performance. There is NO lag. I highly recommend it
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