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[Q] How to create an Apps2SD partition.

I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1 and i've seen a couple of guides where I go into the recovery and do some bits and bobs there to create it, but the only options I seem to get are to mount the sd-ext partition, which fails because it doesn't exist, or to format it.
I'm guessing there is a step beforehand i'm missing?
Thanks

download rom manager from market , open it , then create a ext3 partionion ... done
before you create a partition , backup your sd card!!

y2viks said:
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1 and i've seen a couple of guides where I go into the recovery and do some bits and bobs there to create it, but the only options I seem to get are to mount the sd-ext partition, which fails because it doesn't exist, or to format it.
I'm guessing there is a step beforehand i'm missing?
Thanks
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I had the same problem.
You can create the partition using the ROM Manager app downloaded from the market as yasars said.
Alternatively, if you want to do it manually, you can format the card on a *nix system. The Gparted Linux app lets you edit the partitions in a nice and simple GUI. Just remember the order of the partitions: first fat32, then about 512 MB of ext2/3/4 (ext4 may not be supported by all ROMs so better to use ext3) and lastly a swap partition of about 32 MB (totally optional). The size of the fat32 partition is whatever is left over after you've allocated the 512 MB for the ext2/3/4 partitions (and the 32 MB for the swap if you decided you wanted it). For instance, for a 2GB card, leaving 512 MB for the ext2/3/4 partition (no swap) leaves us with about 1.5 GB for the fat32 partition. You do the calculations for your card in your head or on paper and use those values in Gparted.
HTH.

Thanks for the help guys
I think i'll just get it up and running using the ROM Manager and if I find the need I'll do a manual version

Foolowing this guide I partitioned my sd card with GParted Live CD.

gianton said:
Foolowing this guide I partitioned my sd card with GParted Live CD.
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You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)

chrysochire said:
You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)
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Yes it should be a sticky!

Having a problem when I try to use ROM Manager.
I select the 512 for EXT and 32Mb for Swap and the phone reboots.
It then shows the big triangle with Mr Android next to it until I press some buttons and then I get the recovery screen with the following messages
Finding Update Package....
Opening Update Package....
Verifying Update Package....
E:failed to seek in /cache/update.zip (Invalid Arguement)
E:signature verification failed
Installation Aborted.
I don't have a cache folder on my sd card so i'm guessing it's looking in the internal memory?
Not sure what to do here

BACK-UP sd card before you do this.
For windows users
have clockwork recovery and rom manager on your desire
then format sd in windows.
put it in your desire and go to rom manager.
select Partition SD Card
select your space i used 32 swap 512 ext
than reboot and your sd card has the ext partition.
than put your files back on your sd card and Done

y2viks said:
Having a problem when I try to use ROM Manager.
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I had the same problem with ROM Manager. My solution was to downgrade ClockworkMod Recovery to v2.5.0.0 (in ROM Manager) and then partition the card. Worked on first try.
When you're done you can upgrade to latest version again if you want.
I don't think you should use a swap partition, so just set it to 0 MB.
Good luck!

Do i just need to find the 2.5.0.0 update.zip file and flash?

going to 2.5.0.0 worked
so now i have the ext partition do I need to do anything for apps to be installed there, or will they install there by default?
Also i've heard that the ext partitions can be 2 3 or 4. I'm presuming higher is better. How do I go about finding what mine is and how can I upgrade it if it need it?
Thanks

chrysochire said:
You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)
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Hi, I'm also going to give your guide a go. Just one question, do I have to do it with the SD card still in the phone or can i do it with a SD USB adapter?
Thanks,
Joe
I read the tutorial again and you can use an SD adapter, worked a treat. Cheers

y2viks said:
going to 2.5.0.0 worked
so now i have the ext partition do I need to do anything for apps to be installed there, or will they install there by default?
Also i've heard that the ext partitions can be 2 3 or 4. I'm presuming higher is better. How do I go about finding what mine is and how can I upgrade it if it need it?
Thanks
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As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
Code:
su
ls -l /data
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
I'm not sure which format ROM Manager defaults to, but you can always check the type of format used by mounting the card in Linux and using the GParted Linux app (you could use a card reader or use the 'Disk Drive' option in your phone to connect it to the computer). Also, ext3 should be fine for most custom ROMs. In fact, not all ROMs support ext4.

ikkokusenkin said:
As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
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- Another quick way is to install quick system info from the Market, it tells you infos about your system, including the use of your a2sd partition.... ;-)
- About ext 2/3/4 I would advise the use of ext3, as ext4 is poorly supported by Roms (even those who pretend seem to have issues...)
cheers

Does the decrease of available internal storage means apps22sd+ is not working? I've partitioned twice and installed seperate 2.2 roms with apps2sd+ included and every time I install more things I see internal storage drop.
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
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I checked this and it's doing what you said

ikkokusenkin said:
As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
Code:
su
ls -l /data
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
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I took the liberty of including this information into my tutorial. I added a reference to you. ;-)
I hope this makes it to Sticky one day... ;-)

bloosteak said:
Does the decrease of available internal storage means apps22sd+ is not working? I've partitioned twice and installed seperate 2.2 roms with apps2sd+ included and every time I install more things I see internal storage drop.
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Not in itself, no. Those symbolic links mean that A2SD is working fine. However, from what I understand about the theory, even A2SD installs a part of the app into the internal memory. That may explain the drop you see. By the way, how much free memory do you see on your device? I usually have about 140 MB free on my Desire. I read somewhere that if A2SD wasn't working, that figure would be about 90 MB.

chrysochire said:
I took the liberty of including this information into my tutorial. I added a reference to you. ;-)
I hope this makes it to Sticky one day... ;-)
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Thanks. Although, I can hardly claim to have come up with the idea myself.

ikkokusenkin said:
Not in itself, no. Those symbolic links mean that A2SD is working fine. However, from what I understand about the theory, even A2SD installs a part of the app into the internal memory. That may explain the drop you see. By the way, how much free memory do you see on your device? I usually have about 140 MB free on my Desire. I read somewhere that if A2SD wasn't working, that figure would be about 90 MB.
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108 free total of 148
I just recently opened spare parts apps where it allowed me to change where apps2sd installs things. By default it was set to automatic and I'm guessing that was causing the problem. I set it to external and tried installing a browser while my disk was mounted and it wouldn't let me do it. Then I set it to charge mode and it installed normally.
Some roms probably default to external while some automatic.
edit: Just installed an app that I previously installed while using "automatic" and it still uses up internal storage instead of A2SD storage. Dunno what's wrong. I am using ext2 partitioned through rom manager.

[Q] Sd card partition fails

Please help me.
I can ' t partition my sd card . I ' m using CM 6.1 . I have tried
several methods, both ROM Manager and AppsToSd apps don ' t
do nothing when trying to perform the partitioning , after
requested reboot everything' s the same . Adb didn ' t work either ,
says not found . I even wiped and reflashed the Rom . What could
be wrong?

What do you mean 'everything is the same'? You can't see the ext partition, especially with windows and your phone won't list it anywhere.

KCRic said:
What do you mean 'everything is the same'? You can't see the ext partition, especially with windows and your phone won't list it anywhere.
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Yes. I have flashed a2sd add on and when I try to enable it, both with adb or terminal, it says ext partition is not mounted.
Btw when attempting to partition with ROM Manager it assures that everything on sd will be erased but after a reboot, all the files are still on sd, nothing erased.

Well what I would suggest is using a program on your computer to partition the sdcard (pull the card out and put it in your pc) you don't have to pull it out and put it in your computer but it's a lot quicker. I can't remember what I used so you'll need to google it or search 'create ext partition' on here.
After that, install the package and run the commands, you should be set after that.

Ok I found Acroinis Disk Director Suite on my laptop and with its help deleted fat32 partition, created ext3 of 509 Mbs and linux swap about 40 mbs and finally fat 32 of the rest of a card ( it also creates an emprty piece of about 7,8 megabites that can't be added to any partition). BTw I don't know why but the card isn't recognized by windows in card reader anymore, only when usb disk drive mode. And it can't load update.zip when attempting to get to clockwork recovery ( I restored this file after partitioning). And when typing su cd /system/bin/ sh a2sd reinstall or a2sd cachesd in terminal or adb, in the end it says no ext partition mounted wtf? And btw built in function to format card does this: formats card deleting all partitions and creates a fat32 partition of about 7.4 gbs. I'm so confused... Maybe my card is screwed? I don't know , I spent much time trying to get this working, but nothing helps.

SKAm69 said:
Ok I found Acroinis Disk Director Suite on my laptop and with its help deleted fat32 partition, created ext3 of 509 Mbs and linux swap about 40 mbs and finally fat 32 of the rest of a card ( it also creates an emprty piece of about 7,8 megabites that can't be added to any partition). BTw I don't know why but the card isn't recognized by windows in card reader anymore, only when usb disk drive mode. And it can't load update.zip when attempting to get to clockwork recovery ( I restored this file after partitioning). And when typing su cd /system/bin/ sh a2sd reinstall or a2sd cachesd in terminal or adb, in the end it says no ext partition mounted wtf? And btw built in function to format card does this: formats card deleting all partitions and creates a fat32 partition of about 7.4 gbs. I'm so confused... Maybe my card is screwed? I don't know , I spent much time trying to get this working, but nothing helps.
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ok.. here is how i did it and it was extremely easy.. assuming you have adb working since you are rooted and you have to do that with adb.. then, put your sdcard back in your computer, back up everything and just format the whole thing to FAT32 using that program you say you used... then put the clockwork update.zip back is your sd card (if you think your update.zip might be corrupted or something use this one and rename it to update) along with this other file just in case..http://www.mediafire.com/?bli1zubj8otlo00
then go into recovery and then into clockwork right? now here comes the adb part, plug in your phone and open the command prompt, type adb shell press enter, now type sdparted and press enter and you should get instructions now... if nothing happens when you type sdparted flash the just in case file in recovery BEFORE plugin the usb to the phone, after this do the adb part again.. follow instructions and you will be good to go

etu_aty said:
ok.. here is how i did it and it was extremely easy.. assuming you have adb working since you are rooted and you have to do that with adb.. then, put your sdcard back in your computer, back up everything and just format the whole thing to FAT32 using that program you say you used... then put the clockwork update.zip back is your sd card (if you think your update.zip might be corrupted or something use this one and rename it to update) along with this other file just in case..http://www.mediafire.com/?bli1zubj8otlo00
then go into recovery and then into clockwork right? now here comes the adb part, plug in your phone and open the command prompt, type adb shell press enter, now type sdparted and press enter and you should get instructions now... if nothing happens when you type sdparted flash the just in case file in recovery BEFORE plugin the usb to the phone, after this do the adb part again.. follow instructions and you will be good to go
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After I type sdparted, it says not found. I wonder why

SKAm69 said:
After I type sdparted, it says not found. I wonder why
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try typing sdparted -i

etu_aty said:
try typing sdparted -i
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I get the same not found

SKAm69 said:
I get the same not found
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ok so there is nothing else i can do for you bro, i explained as much as i could and gave you the links... sorry

etu_aty said:
ok so there is nothing else i can do for you bro, i explained as much as i could and gave you the links... sorry
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Thanks anyway
Still being bothered by the issue though

have you tried this method??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736601

Yes I have. It keeps saying not found. I think maybe its adb messed up.

etu_aty said:
ok so there is nothing else i can do for you bro, i explained as much as i could and gave you the links... sorry
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Sounds like he's not using correct syntax.
CD to your androidsdk\tools folder in command prompt, then type adb shell and THEN do the commands that he told you to do.
I think he was just typing adb sdparted which doesn't work.
edit: Nevermind, my bad, I'm dumb and didn't read the post through thoroughly, you already told him to do adb shell and it didn't work.

MusicMan374 said:
Sounds like he's not using correct syntax.
CD to your androidsdk\tools folder in command prompt, then type adb shell and THEN do the commands that he told you to do.
I think he was just typing adb sdparted which doesn't work.
edit: Nevermind, my bad, I'm dumb and didn't read the post through thoroughly, you already told him to do adb shell and it didn't work.
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Yeah but might be right. I've set up enviromental variables in my pc so I can run adb whenever and wherever I want without changing the dir. to the sdk one.. but let's assume he knows how to adb since he is rooted n_n
Perhaps you could tell us how you partitioned your sdcard?? Maybe he can do it that way.. who knows..
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etu_aty said:
Yeah but might be right. I've set up enviromental variables in my pc so I can run adb whenever and wherever I want without changing the dir. to the sdk one.. but let's assume he knows how to adb since he is rooted n_n
Perhaps you could tell us how you partitioned your sdcard?? Maybe he can do it that way.. who knows..
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Yeah good point, make sure you CD to the directory that contains adb, otherwise it will say not found
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[Q] How to get widgets to run from SD card

i got my last question solved but I read somewhere that usin darktremors script would allow me to run widgets from sd card because the system thinks they are still in the correct place.
running GV1.5 partitions fat32/ext3/linux-swap.
I installed the script after mounting /data and /system from the recovery. After that I rebooted and ran the script commands. Moved a widget to sd card and it vanished from screen just like froyo.
what am I doing wrong?
I know you need to move the dalvik-cache for this to work. but recovery can't find sd-ext.

Huh? From what i know widgets will not work if u put them in the micro sd.
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lainvalenajr said:
Huh? From what i know widgets will not work if u put them in the micro sd.
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Using stock froyo a2sd (apps2fat) will not allow you to run widgets. If you partition your sdcard (ext partition) and use the old style a2sd (apps2ext) using darktremors a2sd package you can run widgets from the sdcard. Along with putting the entire app, not just 1/2 or 1/4 of it, on the sdcard plus all of it's data (optional).
If it's easy for you to understand it as the phone thinking the ext partition is part of the internal memory, that's good enough since it's basically what's going on.
Spastic909 said:
I installed the script after mounting /data and /system from the recovery. After that I rebooted and ran the script commands. Moved a widget to sd card and it vanished from screen just like froyo.
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What you did wrong is moving the app to the sdcard. The commands you run in terminal move the apps to the sd ext partition. Specifically this one:
Code:
#su
#cd /system/bin
#a2sd cachesd
It will still show it as installed to the internal memory because it thinks it is. Even in a file explorer under data/app it shows the apps but that's part of the *trick*.
If you go into applications and move it to the sdcard it puts it on the fat32 partition which is where the froyo version puts them - don't do that. That's what you did wrong.

KCRic... huh i didnt know that. Ill try that. Spastic u should try that lol
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i installed the busybox 1.18.0.git
wiped everything in recovery and from recovery ran the script. After I rebooted I ran the commands in terminal.
then my phone rebooted...does that mean it worked?

Spastic909 said:
i installed the busybox 1.18.0.git
wiped everything in recovery and from recovery ran the script. After I rebooted I ran the commands in terminal.
then my phone rebooted...does that mean it worked?
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Yeah. You can use titanium backup to make sure. Just open it and you should see a bar at the bottom showing sdext available/free. Also you can use a file explorer - got to /sdext and you should see an app, app-private, dalvikcache, data, and one or two other folders listed. If you do then it worked.
You can also use terminal to have a2sd check and make sure it's working but I don't want to load the thread with commands I'll post them if you want to learn a bit though

Sorry to resurrect this thread, I thought it better than making my own.
I'm running CM 6.1.3 and have an 8GB SD card inside.
1) How do I check how the SD card is formatted? And if it doesn't have an EXT3 partition, how do I partition it property?
and 2) Is there an easy, non-terminal way to send apps to the EXT3 partition, akin to hitting "move to SD card" in android settings. And since, as you said, it moves all the data to the EXT3 partition, not just some, is it best to keep most of my apps there, to free up internal memory as best as possible?
And PS, when I'm partitioning my SD card, will I need to create a SWAP partition? 1GB for an 8GB stick?
Thanks so much.
EDIT: I'm on an X10 if that helps..

A2EXT how to

I totally forgot how its done.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791795&highlight=a2ext
which is the boot.img that i need??
also.. when I go in terminal and i hit "a2sd", information comes up say
Darktremor apps2SD 2.7.5.2
etc
etc
etc
So im not sure what to do.
(im trying the Salsa rom)

I don't think you will need to get another boot.img for the salsa rom since it has a2ext built-in. I don't know why, but it seems like the phone moves my apps and cache to sd on the first startup right after flashing. If you want to move your cache to sd, you can just type in su to get superuser permission first, then type a2sd cachesd into terminal emulator and it should start moving your cache. While you're at it, type a2sd check to see where your apps and cache are running from as well.

txdeathray said:
I don't think you will need to get another boot.img for the salsa rom since it has a2ext built-in. I don't know why, but it seems like the phone moves my apps and cache to sd on the first startup right after flashing. If you want to move your cache to sd, you can just type in su to get superuser permission first, then type a2sd cachesd into terminal emulator and it should start moving your cache. While you're at it, type a2sd check to see where your apps and cache are running from as well.
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Im doing it.. but its not working 100%
When i hit a2sd cachesd
It runs a few tests, and prints out a line saying "ext partition not mounted"
any ideas?
::EDIT::
Fixed it.
For anyone else who searches...
If you are partitioning with ROM MANAGER, select the partition size you like.. then on the 2nd option (18, 32, 64, etc)
Select different ones..
select one.. doesnt work, format sdcard, use rom manager again.. select another.

Moving Apps 2 SD

I managed to get my phone rooted and installed nlooooo's 2.3 ROM with the help of a bunch of kind users from here. I'm now having trouble moving some apps to the sd card. I mainly want to move facebook, handcent, maps, es file explorer. Tried moving them through the 'Manage Applications' menu but the 'move to sd card' button is greyed out. I have A2SDGUI installed (came with the ROM) but not sure if and how I can use it to move these apps.
Any ideas?

no need to open another thread on another common issue...
going to link you to another guide, should explain a bit more why you shouldnt need to move apps. you should have read it after being pointed to it previously
as long as you've created your sd partition properly, the script should automatically move them. A2SDGUI app should also let you know.
i also recommend to install 'diskusage', it'll let you browse all your partitions so you can see how space is being used. you may find that your apps are already on sd partition

eddiehk6 said:
no need to open another thread on another common issue...
going to link you to another guide, should explain a bit more why you shouldnt need to move apps. you should have read it after being pointed to it previously
as long as you've created your sd partition properly, the script should automatically move them. A2SDGUI app should also let you know.
i also recommend to install 'diskusage', it'll let you browse all your partitions so you can see how space is being used. you may find that your apps are already on sd partition
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Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.

lambada24 said:
Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.
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to be honest, i don't think you've read all of the guide, otherwise you wouldnt be asking these questions. read the whole thing, underneath where you referred to. then start at the top and read the whole thing a few more times (trust me i did this several times before i understood)...you can repeat this for many internet guides lol
i've read through your other 'insufficient memory' thread, so have assumed that you've created your sd-ext partition properly using 4ext.
if A2SDGUI reports "Apps are on SD" i'm nearly certain it's already working, it means the apps are on the partition (which is why you made it in the first place).
basically, all your used memory (apps, dalvik cache, data) has to be stored somewhere. when you open diskusage, select the sd-ext option to browse it. the app is quite useful for looking at /data (your 'internal memory') and /system too.
the reason why you might not be able to move some apps depends on the rom, these are likely system apps. you can't move these to sd, and you won't free up any internal memory even if you could move them

lambada24 said:
Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.
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If you have problems using my rom you should ask me for help.
Rom has Darktremor a2sd script included and A2SDGUI app should work. However, sometimes it can happen that after a fresh install A2SDGUI doesn't so you have to do the following:
-install Terminal app
-type su (and grant superuser rights)
-type a2sd reinstall and let it finish and reboot your phone. Reboot can last a little bit longer.
After that try to use A2SDGUI, and move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Read this thread, there you have all explanations about how to use a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151

nlooooo said:
If you have problems using my rom you should ask me for help.
Rom has Darktremor a2sd script included and A2SDGUI app should work. However, sometimes it can happen that after a fresh install A2SDGUI doesn't so you have to do the following:
-install Terminal app
-type su (and grant superuser rights)
-type a2sd reinstall and let it finish and reboot your phone. Reboot can last a little bit longer.
After that try to use A2SDGUI, and move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Read this thread, there you have all explanations about how to use a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
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I followed your instructions and they seemed to have worked. To be sure of that, I switched off the phone, removed the SD Card and rebooted it. As expected, many of the apps weren't available. Problem is, when I put the card back in only a few apps re-appeared! What could be happening?

lambada24 said:
I followed your instructions and they seemed to have worked. To be sure of that, I switched off the phone, removed the SD Card and rebooted it. As expected, many of the apps weren't available. Problem is, when I put the card back in only a few apps re-appeared! What could be happening?
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There's a big difference between apps you moved manually from app management and apps you moved with a2sd. The first one are moved to fat32 partition of your sd card while the second are moved to sd-ext.
You shouldn't do that because you brake symlinks created by a2sd. Go to A2SDGUI and choose move dalvik and rebuild, or execute the same command via terminal.

nlooooo said:
There's a big difference between apps you moved manually from app management and apps you moved with a2sd. The first one are moved to fat32 partition of your sd card while the second are moved to sd-ext.
You shouldn't do that because you brake symlinks created by a2sd. Go to A2SDGUI and choose move dalvik and rebuild, or execute the same command via terminal.
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A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.

diskusage is good enough.....

lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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i use "FreeSpace" from the play store, its simple but good.
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lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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Sometimes A2SDGUI gets bugged. You can try to uninstall it with Titanium backup (clear data first) and to install it from market, to store it to internal memory, not on system partition.
However terminal is everworking solution...
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lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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eddiehk6 said:
basically, all your used memory (apps, dalvik cache, data) has to be stored somewhere. when you open diskusage, select the sd-ext option to browse it. the app is quite useful for looking at /data (your 'internal memory') and /system too.
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your internal memory is the /data option.
basically you want to ensure all your user apps are on the sd-ext partition, and not FAT32
in future, whenever you run into low space warnings, always use apps like these to check what's taking up the space first

nlooooo said:
Sometimes A2SDGUI gets bugged. You can try to uninstall it with Titanium backup (clear data first) and to install it from market, to store it to internal memory, not on system partition.
However terminal is everworking solution...
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders
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Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
eddiehk6 said:
i tried to explain...
your internal memory is the /data option.
basically you want to ensure all your user apps are on the sd-ext partition, and not FAT32
in future, whenever you run into low space warnings, always use apps like these to check what's taking up the space first
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Can't see an 'sd-ext' option in diskusage. Is it the /system/sd ?

lambada24 said:
Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
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It's ok as long as it's not located in system folder. Do not convert it to system app cause you'll do exactly what you shouldn't!

nlooooo said:
It's ok as long as it's not located in system folder. Do not convert it to system app cause you'll do exactly what you shouldn't!
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Well, it's stored in the same place as Messages, Google Services, Gmail and HTC Sense. Is that fine?

lambada24 said:
Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
Can't see an 'sd-ext' option in diskusage. Is it the /system/sd ?
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try the "FreeSpace" app i suggested in earlier post, it tells u how much memory in system, cache, sdcard, ext, internal. it doest say whats using the space but atleast u will know if its being used
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lambada24 said:
Well, it's stored in the same place as Messages, Google Services, Gmail and HTC Sense. Is that fine?
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It shouldn't be. Anyway uninstall it and use terminal for commands.

jmcclue said:
try the "FreeSpace" app i suggested in earlier post, it tells u how much memory in system, cache, sdcard, ext, internal. it doest say whats using the space but atleast u will know if its being used
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Installed it and it says I have 5Mb free under 'System' - is that normal?
nlooooo said:
It shouldn't be. Anyway uninstall it and use terminal for commands.
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Would it be a good idea to execute the terminal command you gave me earlier once every few weeks to ensure all apps are on SD? How can I move dalvik to sd-ext via terminal?

lambada24 said:
Installed it and it says I have 5Mb free under 'System' - is that normal?
Would it be a good idea to execute the terminal command you gave me earlier once every few weeks to ensure all apps are on SD? How can I move dalvik to sd-ext via terminal?
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5Mb free on system-normal just don't put anything there anymore.
Type a2sd cachesd.

nlooooo said:
5Mb free on system-normal just don't put anything there anymore.
Type a2sd cachesd.
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Does the command 'a2sd reinstall' move apps from the internal memory to the sd card or simply reinstalls a2sd functionality? If the latter, what command should I use to move the apps?
Nevermind, I googled it and discovered it moves both current and future non-system apps to the SD Card.
Thanks to all of you for your assistance