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VillainROM 12.0.0 Wi-Fi system hang...

Hello all. Kinda new here, but I've been flashing my hero with roms from here for a while now. My latest attempt at a good rom is the VillainROM 12.0.0, this is my first time with a VillainROM, and I don't know if this bug exists in previous versions. In my opinion it is a very minor issue, but maybe not for someone else. I'm not a developer, so I don't know what could be causing it, and I don't know if I should be reporting bugs on the VillainROM site, or here, so I'm going to start here...
I downloaded the ROM from the VillainROM12.0.0 thread...
Install was flawless, worked perfectly.
The ROM runs extremely well in all functions, so no complaints there.
The only issue is a slight (10+ seconds) hang when I press the power button to turn on the screen to unlock it and the WiFi connection has timed out. Other ROMs I've used, including the stock ROM would come out of this sleep mode, and then try to reconnect to the WiFi, and they've done so with flawless success. However, this ROM does not, at least not for a minute or so.
This is how I can reproduce the problem, and it takes a while. I usually plug my phone into a charger at night and let it charge over night, and unplug it in the morning to head off to work or whatever. Once the screen turns on on its own after the external power source is disconnected (which all ROMs have done) the screen is unresponsive, and all buttons are unresponsive. The screen remains lit up on the lock screen stuck for at least 10 seconds, then goes black, then pressing the power button to turn the screen back on will restore the phone to an unlocked state (assuming it remembered the swipe action from when the screen was locked and stuck) but takes about another 5 seconds to come back on. This only happens if I have the WiFi radio on while the phone is sitting idle for an extended period of time (long enough for the radio to automatically go into its sleep mode perhaps?).
Here's the info from my phone...
Firmware Version: VillainROM9.0.0
Baseband Version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-ninpo-freqtwk{AT}titan-dirty-b7a296faninpo{AT}titan #39
Build Number: VillainROM12.0.0
Software Number: 3.32.405.1
Browser Version: 3.1
I'm not sure if this is just a fluke, if I should reflash and see if the problem persists. Anyone else able to reproduce this?
Again, if this is the wrong forum, please feel free to move it, and thanks XDA, this site is an awesome resource!
PS... I had to replace the at sign with {AT} in the Kernel Version due to Forum restrictions (It thinks it's an outside URL and I'm too green to be able to do that...)...

Are you running setCPU or OC Widget?

It look likes the lower CPU frequency is too low. Open SetCPU or Overclock Widget and increase it a little.
If you use profiles, in SetCPU:
> Check if you have a "Sleep Profile"
> Check if its frequences are too low.
> If yes, increase it.
It normaly happens when you have a 19Mhz - 2XXMhz on-demand sleep profile.
Increasing that 2XXMhz to 3XX or 4XX may solve the issue.
If not, try to reflash, or use VillainROM IRC at their website.

First your radio is a bit old. Try upgrading to the latest radio from here:
http://villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=323
Second, especially regarding the wakeup issues, try my kernel for VR12 from here:
http://villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1928
It has no wake-up problems even @ 691/160 (what I used) as well as better battery life and performance....

Turn up your minimum set cpu speed.

erasmux said:
It has no wake-up problems even @ 691/160 (what I used) as well as better battery life and performance....
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Pulser has no problems waking up at 19MHz with my kernel. Stable Min/Max frequencies are unique to each phone it has nothing to do with the kernel.

In theory I agree with you completely. But in practice with each kernel I get a different wakeup "performance" using the exact same frequencies. I always prefer setting the min to 160Mhz, but like many many others, in most kernels - including your kernel which comes with VR12 I get heavy wakeup issues which disappear only @ min 480. In other kernels (such as those by Radu) these wakeup issues still exist but are less pronounced (very very rare).
For me and others which have given my kernel a shot there have been no wake up issues @ min 160Mhz. Battery life and responsiveness also improved according to those who have tried my kernel (and optimizations).
BTW "my" kernel is just the HTC official kernel release + OC enable, so its more HTC's kernel than mine.
Like you said it is device dependent, ROM dependent, user dependent, everything.... I am just saying that until now I have not gotten any negative feedback on my kernel, and I think people should give it a shot and decide for themselves. Hopefully they will also be kind enough to share their experiences with me, so if there are problems I can try to fix them.

Thank you all for the suggestions. I do not use any OC utilities, it's the ROM as it was when I downloaded it. Barely any applications installed (some games, auto task killer, handcent...).
I've updated the radio to a version I found in a SenseHero 2.1 thread, but that radio broke MMS and some other data network features. I am in the US, on AT&T (I know, no 3G, but I'm ok with that ), will the radios listed work propperly on this network?
I was also able to reproduce the hanging issue by turning on the WiFi, browsing around the Market, and then exiting the market and turing off the WiFi. It seems that during the switch to the mobile network from WiFi is when something funky happens. Is there a way to get logs to show what might be going on?

First of all try the newest radio from here:
http://villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=323
If 6.35.15.14 does not work well for you, try either 6.35.15.11 or 6.35.15.01 - If I am not mistaken they are all from the latest HTC release from different parts of the world, so one of them should work well for you.
If you want to get a log for the problem, use the adb logcat. Another simpler option to try and isolate the problem is check if reflashing the ROM (after a backup and a full wipe) solves the problem. Also check if the problem exists in other ROMs.

I have flashed the radio with the latest from the site as suggested (6.35.15.01 was no good when I flashed with that one before, caused all kinds of problems with MMS/SMS, and other network fuctions, but I didn't try that radio with the VillainROM). MMS and such still work, so that is good. I'm going to try to reproduce the other issue tonight, but that may have fixed the issue... I'll update the thread with the results.

Looks like the new radio did not solve the problem. Is the next step the new Kernel?

Sorry for the long delay in response...
The problem is still happening. I have now flashed with a different ROM (Chronos Droid 2.1.2) and the problem persists. However, the lockup doesn't seem to be as bad... Am I the only one with this problem? Should I change my wireless network settings to GSM only? Or leave it on Auto? I'll play around with that and see what happens. It just seems that changing from the mobile network to the WiFi network (and vise versa) is when the problem happens...

Nope, that didn't help. When I went to GSM only, I had no data network connection, and when I went to WCDMA only I had no connection at all. On GSM/WCDMA Only I have both... I wonder if it is something with this phone and the .29 kernel? But then wouldn't everyone here have this problem?

I have this issue too, using ninpo's kernel. I am going to increase my min freq but it's already at 3xx - fingers x'd

I don't see this being a kernel issue, I have a feeling its just a wifi issue on the new rom bases.

m4rk84 said:
I have this issue too, using ninpo's kernel. I am going to increase my min freq but it's already at 3xx - fingers x'd
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Please let me know what happens.
I did not have these problems using the SenseHero ROMs (older Kernel), only Villain and now Chronos... :S I don't use any OC apps, just leave it all stock from the ROM. If I use one and increase the speed at sleep, (probably an obvious answer) will this drain the battery faster?

Still hanging. Does this have anything to do with wifi's android default sleep behaviour?

I'm having all kinds of lag issues when network queries are starting, especially during MMS/SMS operations. Could be a Handcent update, but the default messager thinger is also quite slow. I'm tempted to go back to an older ROM, this is getting frustrating...

CPU usage through the roof, may be causing the reboots, any ideas?

So I hve been going nuts trying to figure out why my phone keeps rebooting. I'm in another country so getting a replacement isn't an option for me and it seems it hasn't helped some people anyways (After a while it comes back).
THe only constant I see is that the CPU usage after maybe 30 seconds after the phone comes on stays at 95-100% all the time. Only thing that makes sense is that the phone is shutting itself down before it melts down.
This kinda makes sense since it seems the more I try to do the more random the reboots become.....and battery life is beyond horrible. I did the steps to increase battery life and battery life is making this phone virtually unusable off AC power (EXample: Leaving from my Brother in laws apartment and travelling 10 floors down to my car results in 89% battery left. Phone is dead within the hour if i use it and 3 or 4 if leave it idling.
I tried killing all the tasks that te phone starts up with but nothing change the CPU usage. I thought maybe it was the kernel but I flashed the latest one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...RI+version+PRL [the undervolted version]. Not sure if that would help (THe info in this forums is so scattered and disorganized it makes my head spin.....and I'm a techie).
Also try flashing the combo package of the latest radio, PRI, NV etc and that doesn't work also....CPU usage is still through the roof.
I just got this a few days ago. I'm currently on:
HBoot 2.10 [s-off]
H/W 0004
Basband 2.15.00.11.19 [I was on this before I was rooted]
Kernel version 2.6.32.27-SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs [email protected] #19 [Just flashed] ROM myn's Warm TwoPointTwo 9RLS 4)
Software: 3.3-.651.3
PRI Version: 1.90_0003
PRL Version: 60662
Can I get some help from people smarter then me. I'm at the end of my rope and I'm not convinced a handset swap is going to fix my issue esp. since this was BNIB straight from Sprint and other people who've had this issue and had a new phone seem to somehow have it later.
If i leave it alone it will reboot on its own eventually. If i switch from airport to turning on the cell data, reboot, turning on wifi......reboot, toggling 4g.......reboot, After a few web page searches......reboot, open up an application.....reboot.
This isn't temperature related as far as I can tell.....The app I have monitoring temp has seen this happen at 25 degrees and sometimes less.
PLEASE HELP

Ok.. firs tthings first..
when your phone is unstable and rebooting, dont use an undervolt kernel. Undervolt kernels provide less power to the CPU at set frequencies.
In my case, I discovered undervolting CAUSED reboots, because my phone couldnt handle anything under 950mv... there is such a range in the quality of the components that theres no way to always say yes, undervolting this much will work with every phone.
so 1: Use stock kernel ( for whatever rom your using.. also use a well established rom, not one of the 'hey, last night i got bored and made this' ones.. it may work, but it may be so buggy its what is causing your crash )
2: do a fresh install. run the phone with 0 apps added, see if it has the same issue. If it does, may be the phone itself. If it doesnt, its one of your apps.. install one at a time, and see if it improves.

and you made two posts why?

Didn't know they would move it. Posted in the wrong forum and they moved it as well. lOL. My bad.
I've been on a stock kernel up until I started trying different kernels. I will try the other one then.
My CPU usage is the problem I think. I have both memoryusage and system monitor and both report the same thing.....95-100% usage constantly. If I could resolve that then maybe my phone would work properly.

Didn't know they would move it. Posted in the wrong forum and they moved it as well. lOL. My bad.
I've been on a stock kernel up until I started trying different kernels. I will try the other one then.
My CPU usage is the problem I think. I have both memoryusage and system monitor and both report the same thing.....95-100% usage constantly. If I could resolve that then maybe my phone would work properly.

[Q] Weird battery drain

Ok guys n gals, here's a puzzle for you all.
A few days ago, I noticed that my standby consumption had gone from around 10 mA to around 40mA using mobile data but with all other radios and GPS off.
For testing purposes I disabled location services through wireless. No effect.
I have tried with several Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs and the results are identical.
I have also tried with different radios, flashed using both fastboot and recovery.
I have used the ROMs without settings or app restore and I haven't installed any other apps than those included in the various ROMs. Additionally, i have tried various kernels.
Using Airplane mode shaves of a couple of mA.
aLogcat isn't showing any weird lines, mostly garbage collections.
I have tried searching far and wide and I have tested freezing various potential culprit apps using titanium backups' freeze function and all the battery calibrations/fixes I have found, but nothing helps.
At the moment I am using Oxygen RC6 with their recommended radio 5.09.05.30_2 and I am still seeing the same issue. The phone has gone from making it almost two days with moderate usage to barely a day with little usage.
The phone is S-OFF and I am using the N1table.
Can anyone please help with this? Apologies if this problem has been described before. I really tried searching before writing tis, but it could be that my search fu is weak.

Have you found a solution? In my case i'm getting ~100mA with the phone sleeping... and I can't seem to fix that.
Oxygen2.0-RC6 here.

Set wifi sleep policy to never.
Wireless and network-wifi-hit menu
Seams to help some people.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

TheGhost1233 said:
Set wifi sleep policy to never.
Wireless and network-wifi-hit menu
Seams to help some people.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yeah, did that. No joy.

Maybe i'm totaly off, but, do you use Facebook app v1.5 ? If so, that's one power drain app because they messed up with new chat feature.

To anyone in Japan with horrible battery life, this might be helpful!
Solution for battery drain:
Just found this japanese guy who had the same problem with an Oxygen rom.
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/majadroid/20101223/1293094736
He explains what he changed in build.prop and has packaged it as an update here:
http://www.multiupload.com/5EAK6IUSQR
I am flashing it now and will report problems (or success I hope) in a while. According to the OP he managed to get to 1~2% hour drain which is very promising.
EDIT: It seems to have worked!!! I am back to about 10mA with screen off!

Thanks for all the replies.
The last thing I tried was a total restore using a HTC RUU, so I am now S-ON
This didn't help much though, even if I was down to 27 mA on some occasions, maybe that's normal for HTC roms
I have rooted it again but not S-OFFed and I am running the latest CM7 build (#12).
@TheGhost1233: I have tried the wifi sleep policy.
@m4dm4n123: No I don't use facebook app. Additionally, I have tried removing as many apps as possible only keeping some google apps and currentwidget.
@slyn4ice: Thanks for the tip. I have just flashed it but I am not noticing any big difference. I am seeing a few mA:s reduction, but still far from 5-10 mA in standby... I'll let it run for a day and see if it improves.
I am still open for suggestions...

[RADIO 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08] Personal experience: high temperature! (reboot!)

hi, i did try this radio with different roms: LeeDrOiD V3.0.7 , RCMixHD v3.6.1a D2EXT and Reflex S 2.1.3 and with the old froyo DJdroid 1.9 too.
in all these roms the radio caused reboots (i think for high temperature because the low side of dispay and, in the back side of phone, near the sim/microsd, the phone was very hot in the moment before reboot)
I know the high temperature problem about htc desire but my phone is not affected by this problem because i did try ALL the oldest radios from the last year during "froyo time" and this problem has NEVER happend!!!
now i'm trying 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 and im using the same RCMixHD v3.6.1a D2EXT without any problems! (i turned on gps,BT, wifi, hotspot wifi) during play "coin pirates" game and the phone isn't hot! (it's very cold )
however restoring any froyo roms with 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 up to 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27 i have no temperature problems!!
im the only one with this experience?!

No problems for me

I experienced same issue with LeeDroid and 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08 radio.. but now i'm using MIUI rom and heating issue is solved.

I am on gv 2.5. have had the same thing when charging + when I use the browser alot. 32.56.00.32U 5.17.05.23
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Ultrakiller said:
i think for high temperature because the low side of dispay and, in the back side of phone, near the sim/microsd, the phone was very hot in the moment before reboot
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im the only one with this experience?!
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Mine Desire also gets very hot during downloads/heavy browsing (2G or 3G) but it never rebooted yet. CurrentWidget reports sometimes over 600 mA of current usage but I don't know if this is normal usage or not
I'll try different radios and post results

Me too, at the same part of the phone. The temp is much higher than before. I use MIUI.

Slightly off topic, but what's the best way to flash a new radio?
Just reboot into recovery and then flash ...zip from SD?
Thanks

I had the same issue with radio 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08. I've tried two ROMs and result was the same - reboot. Since I've upgraded radio to 5.17_05.23 I hadn't any reboot.

I had problems with this radio before too. I used it with Leedroid froyo and had random reboots all the time. With Leedroid GB, Insertcoin 1.0.8 I got terrible battery life, but i cant seem to get good battery with GB anyways.
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This is the best radio thus far for me. No reboots and excellent signal and battery life. I haven't tried the latest yet, but I have no need to either.

I had the same problem with all radios I've tried. Now I'm on the 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 (+ ril) with much more battery life... but the same heat and reboot problem...

Frigorio said:
Now I'm on the 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 (+ ril) with much more battery life... but the same heat and reboot problem...
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Can I ask which ril version do you use?

[Q] ARHD 7.0.2 "Phone" process keeping CPU at 100%

Hi everyone,
I just flashed ARHD 7.0.2 on my Desire HD last night and I'm experiencing the following problem:
The CPU remains at 99-100% all the time, the battery drains excessively fast and the phone gets really hot.
Using "Watchdog Lite", I detected that when the CPU does not stay at 100% (after a battery-pull), the "Phone" process uses 0,0% of CPU.
However, for some reason, after a while it will jump up to 80-90% and stay there, causing the CPU to go berserk.
I suppose the heat-issue comes from the fact that the cpu works all the time at 100%.
The battery drain issue comes also from the CPU.
However, I do not know why the Phone process would suddenly go crazy and use that much cpu - and keeps doing it until the battery is dead.
I'm thinking it is because the ARHD 7.0.2 ROM is actually a stock Sensation XL base and thusly requires another RIL than the one that was on it before that.
Before flashing another RIL or radio I would like it very much if somebody could confirm that the fact that the Phone process goes crazy like that could very well be linked to the fact that the RIL and Radio don't match.
It seems obvious, but I don't know enough of the inner workings to verify this, so therefor: this thread
Thanks in advance to all!
sstm

The RIL should be pretty standard between HTC devices so that shouldn't cause any issues. Did you do a full wipe before the install?

Hello TransientMotion,
Yes I did a full wipe, I even cleared the battery stats for good measure.
I even formatted my SD-card to make sure nothing remained from some app somewhere.
The phone is as if I'd have bought it fresh out of the store with ARHD 7.0.2 on it (and rooted of course)
It's just weird to see that the "Phone" process is using this much cpu, even when on Airplane mode.
Thanks for you reply,
sstm

It may be worth trying out an earlier version of the rom just to see what happens. I used 6..3.1 before I switched over to ICS and never had any major problems with it. If that works fine then try newer versions until you get glitches again or it works without the drain

Hey,
I just found out that it is Llama (kebabApp 'location aware' application) who is causing the problem.
Whenever I leave an area and then re-enter it, the CPU goes berserk and stays that way as if some loop can never be interrupted.
I didn't have this problem on ARHD 6.3.1, but I didn't have the same Llama configuration on it either so I tried the Llama config on ARHD 6.3.1 and it did the exact same thing: cpu 100% and slowness all over.
So conclusion: Llama config is the culprit.
Anyways, thanks for you help TransientMotion.
sstm