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I've come over from the dark side.

Hi all.
Not an XDA newbie, but I am a 100% Desire HD newbie.
I've owned a HD2 for the last 18 mths and been flashing stacks of Android builds etc etc....and HD2 has been great, but wayyyy to many irritating problems to continue......so i've sold it and bought a Desire HD and taking delivery of it tommorow.
Couple of questions if it's ok:
1: I owned 2 x HD2 and both of them, along with STACKS of other HD2s suffered a big problem of completely freezing up when either mobile data was turned on, or GPS was turned on, and if the phone got over 33 degrees......I know I shoulda checked before I bought the Desire, but does this happen or is it a common thing with the Desire HD?
2: It's a used phone, but only a few weeks old an in as new condition, BUT, i'm on THREE network (UK) and the phone is locked to Vodaphone........are there any tricks or any recomended, pretty cheap places to unlock it online etc??
(did use search, but found nothing)
Any info, be very much appreciated and looking forward to being a fully fledged member of the Desire HD forum when I get it tommorow
cheers
Matt

Hi Matt, welcome to Desire HD section. I would be glad to help you.
As far as I know, there is no issue such as phone freezing up when using mobile data or gps. The only related issues are either reception or driver's error. But they are kernel and radio related problems.
Depending on the phone's Android OS build, you can either Gingerbreak or simply downgrade to achieve full phone unlock, including the sim unlock that you've asked before. The guide to do so can be found in the Desire HD Android Development Section (stickies and some thread for downgrading).
Have a nice day reading all of it and good luck.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD

drpsyko said:
Hi Matt, welcome to Desire HD section. I would be glad to help you.
As far as I know, there is no issue such as phone freezing up when using mobile data or gps. The only related issues are either reception or driver's error. But they are kernel and radio related problems.
Depending on the phone's Android OS build, you can either Gingerbreak or simply downgrade to achieve full phone unlock, including the sim unlock that you've asked before. The guide to do so can be found in the Desire HD Android Development Section (stickies and some thread for downgrading).
Have a nice day reading all of it and good luck.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
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cheers dude.
matt

Hey matt congratz on the DHD I know how you feel.
Well the HD2, I pm'ed you ;-)
Believe it or not the DHD has a GPS issue but that has to due to the GPS antenna being in the camera flash plastic thingie and that tends to have contact issues.
You can buy a cheap replacement http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item20b8394272
Wow seems like the guy added £5 to the price I paid a couple of weeks ago.
There are some nice roms here too (I use the MIUI one) and most developers are very rapid to respond to questions.
As far as unlocking goes, wouldn't know as locking by provider is forbidden in Belgium

Galaxy Nexus - flawed by bad NAND!!! \data partition corruption issue

Issue: \data partititon become corrupt for no obvious reason.
Manifests itself through: Freezes followed eventually by (endless) reboots
When: Randomly when you install new apps (may be every day as it can happen only every other week/month), or setting up apps (like Twitter, mail, etc)
Temporary solution: Re-flash Samsung FW but lose ALL YOUR DATA. Attention: CWM restore will not fix the problem!
---- Here goes a link to the fabulous mskip's tutorial, you will find here everything you need to get it back up temporarily
I experienced this in 401, 402, 403 and 404, some were expecting better data integrity in 404... I confirm this is not the case
I would not go as far as saying that this is 100% the reason, but it looks like the NAND quality is craaaaaap! There is no external SD card, Android should be able to do a perfect job now at handling info and preserving quality of data.
I will contact Samsung and ask for a refund (if at all possible)... Disgusting thing to put such a piece of s''t on the market without proper testing and call it "flagship/pure Google experience". This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
Any advice, I am inetersted, have tried pretty much everything so far and did not solve the problem...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE? Let your voice heard...

DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?

David Horn said:
No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Agree as well ..seems more like rubbish
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David Horn said:
No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...

Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.

KWKSLVR said:
Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Right While i'm catching my breath, found another thread pointing to the same issue IMHO (didn't not see it initially):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490815
Attempting to contact Samsung already...

vulpy said:
Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
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Your first post came across as a hysterical rant - this is the first I've heard of the problem so it's not affecting many phones, and ultimately Samsung are going to have the occasional dodgy NAND chip. Sounds like you got one.
If you'd had several phones and they'd all exhibited this problem you'd be right to be peeved, but it simply sounds like you've been unlucky and are pissed off about it. Have you even discussed it with Samsung's tech support or taken it back to the shop you bought it from?
And accusing an XDA recognised developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.

I've not heard of other people having this problem with the Gnex? Who are these other people having this same problem? Maybe speak with them and see if a replacement phone might solve the problem. I really hope you can get this fixed and not give up on such a great platform.
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This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.

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...And accusing an XDA recognized developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
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Respect for your dev background (haven't used any of your ROMs yet), in all fairness I'm far less impressed with your communication skills... I must agree though, my message may have come across as too abrupt and you're right again, I am going to sort it out with Samsung...
Did not mean to get people horrified, rather to blow the whistle on a worrying and annoying bug and smth people may consider if they come across or consider a purchase.
For having worked in the mobile comm semiconductors space for years, I know just what sets apart a serious company from a me-too profile. Surprised to see Samsung having this king of issues. Normally they are ironed out easily though SW regression tests and HW stress processes (at least at serious OEMs).
I will let one of the moderators judge if my crime is so serious, your ego will survive, I'm sure I will come back when/if issue solved (or in good progress).

yeah, mine is fine. If it was a widespread problem I would back your corner, but I seems rather isolated. Rather then cause mass hysteria I would say you need to return your handset
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

This happened to mine. But only once.
Quite frustrating, as my phone is my alarm clock and it was bootlooping when I needed to go to sleep!
However, a reflash of the 4.0.2 stock images sorted it out, and no problems since. I'm pretty sure I caused it by pulling out the battery at some sensitive point in a reboot or something.
If this happens to you frequently, then you need to exchange your phone.
Also, I think this could be a pretty good resource as opposed to a rant if you put your mind to it. I'm not a developer, but I'm also not a total n00b, and it took me a little while to figure out how to fix the problem, when I had it. I'm sure there are people out there who would appreciate a guide.

In this thread, op is going through that time of the month, when was his own modification back fires in his face, his explosive emotions reek havoc on an online forum.
If you want to see a device with bad nand memory, see the HTC Desire S forum .
Also the reboots and freezes I used to experience on my device were application related. Device hasn't frozen, nor rebooted in about *looks at up time* .. 27 days .

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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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... I was actually referring to a poll in another thread (link in this thread) concluding that half of the people who answered have experienced freezes and reboots... it may be biased somewhat by the fact that people who experienced the issue are more likely to vote than those who didn't... maybe an overstatement from me.

Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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First I heard about this too. I've flashed tons of roms and mods and constantly installing uninstalling apps.
The GNex has been anything but non-stable. I think I've had to pull the battery once or twice since ownership. Never heard anyone complain about randomly losing all their data... especially not daily. Perhaps on a bad flash in CWM.
Maybe you should look into a super wipe that completely erases everything, deletes the partition tables and recreates everything from scratch. Maybe it'll help but it honestly sounds defective.
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Thanks Player911... Interesting idea, was thinking as well to do a total wipe and sort of a sector-by-sector reformat, but could not find a way of doing it. Is there any tool that would allow me to do it? Maybe this will isolate bad sectors...

Will check shortly with Samsung folks, thanks mate! (what slows me down is the fact that I'm currently travelling to the US and the guarantee is only European and it's Sunday= hotline is closed in Europe).
daern said:
Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
Daern
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Uhh, I don't believe my reboots are due to this. Just saying. That whole thread does not point to your theory as the issue. I'm gonna go ahead and call this myth busted and suggest you go get a replacement because this is just another extremist "my phone is busted but I refuse to get a new one" thread.
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You've been Samsunged
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Serious camera issues...

Hi all,
I got my One X a few weeks ago, very soon after launch (O2). Initially I was very happy with my purchase but now I'm left extremely frustrated with this handset and regretting buying it - screen flicker, dropped calls, lots of little bugs, and now... The camera won't work!
I've been using it quite a bit since I bought it, but yesterday I was using it (no settings changed) and each time I took a picture there was either corruption in the image or a blank image with an exclamation mark icon instead of the picture. This now seems to happen almost every time I try to take a shot - I've done the following in an attempt to rectify:
1. Reboot handset
2. Ensured no other apps are running prior to using camera
3. Reset camera settings to default
4. Ensured phone was fully charged
5. Ensured I have enough free storage space (~22GB free)
I'm not going to perform a factory reset because I'm not convinced it's going to help anything AND I shouldn't really have to do that! I haven't got time to completely reconfigure my phone.
Still, I'm unable to take a photo and this is *really* annoying me! A premium handset with issues all over the place... Unacceptable!
Now I'm left thinking I'm going to go back to O2 and demand replacement with a SGS3, because by the looks of things HTC haven't actually fixed most of the bugs we're all experiencing.
Such a shame - had so much potential and a genuinely amazing device to pick up and use in many ways, but it's quite frankly not fit for purpose if I can't make reliable calls, take pictures or use the screen without serious flickering.
Has anyone else experienced these camera issues I described above?
Apologies for the tl;dr, just a very frustrated HOX owner.

So because you got a faulty phone all the others out there are not fit for purpose?
OK got ya that seems fair

There's something wrong with your particular phone, just get it replaced. The vast majority of people have no flaws whatsoever.

Lol... They won't offer a refund until you do a factory reset. I guarantee a factory reset will fix the problem. Stop having a cry are you 12 or something.
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nikorette said:
Lol... They won't offer a refund until you do a factory reset. I guarantee a factory reset will fix the problem. Stop having a cry are you 12 or something.
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Oh the irony of a childish response like that. That's how keyboard warriors really show their age.
For the record no, I'm significantly older and understandably annoyed by the poor quality of a ~£500 handset that I worked hard to pay for.
And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol

adamsharif said:
And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
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Yes really. It'd be incredibly foolish to assume that XDA users are representative of the majority of phone users and even more foolish to assume that people who have flawless phones will be just as vociferous as those with flawed phones.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol
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Why don't you try and reflash your phone with a RUU or return it for replacement?

Well that's what I've done - just booked it in with O2 so will see what happens.
Still interested to know whether anyone has had this camera issue though?

adamsharif said:
Oh the irony of a childish response like that. That's how keyboard warriors really show their age.
For the record no, I'm significantly older and understandably annoyed by the poor quality of a ~£500 handset that I worked hard to pay for.
And as for the vast majority of people having no flaws - really?! I don't believe that for a second - by the looks of most of the boards a high proportion of HOX handsets have issues.
So yeah, I'm quite understandably frustrated - didn't realise how defensive this forum is lol
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No just no. A high proportion of XDA USERS' HOX's have problems. Maybe because most have noticed a problem and have done a google search to find xda as one of the first links. They sign up and vote/make a topic about their problem, now to you and the rest of us it looks like most of the handsets are suffering from some sort of problem.
Most take this on board without looking at the big picture, those normal run of the mill users that don't have any use for xda, don't post about problems because they don't have any.
Stop being so closed minded xda is not the be all and end all of android. There are users out there that have never herd of xda or even ics.
It's pointless complaining here with such an aggressive attitude just do the factory reset and be done with it atleast if you do it now you'll be able to backup your apps via abd/fastboot.
IMHO your just childish, you need to suck it up and stop being such a girl.
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nikorette said:
No just no. A high proportion of XDA USERS' HOX's have problems. Maybe because most have noticed a problem and have done a google search to find xda as one of the first links. They sign up and vote/make a topic about their problem, now to you and the rest of us it looks like most of the handsets are suffering from some sort of problem.
Most take this on board without looking at the big picture, those normal run of the mill users that don't have any use for xda, don't post about problems because they don't have any.
Stop being so closed minded xda is not the be all and end all of android. There are users out there that have never herd of xda or even ics.
It's pointless complaining here with such an aggressive attitude just do the factory reset and be done with it atleast if you do it now you'll be able to backup your apps via abd/fastboot.
IMHO your just childish, you need to suck it up and stop being such a girl.
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Right, so how about the fact that I've actually read a variety of other forums including some of the operators' own too? You have ASSUMED that I have only looked at XDA.
Aggressive?! Childish?! I think you're reading into things too much here... What part of "man pays relatively large sum for device and is disappointed by its many flaws" do you not get?
Anyway, this is boring me; I guess I'll never know if anyone else actually has the same camera issues...

Lol you still don't get it. Some people just do not know about forums. Unless you get a number from HTC that states how many returns per device made. Nobody, not you or me will know. Not reading anything other than what's on my screen. I'm defensive, by logic you're aggressive.
I guess you won't. Everyone else just ran a factory reset instead of crying about it.
Anyway like most of the threads on here its no longer about the op's post and more about the ego of the people posting. I'll admit I am at fault sorry if I derailed your thread..
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Did u updated to 1.28? In 1.26 some pics cannot be processed,this has been solved completely in .1.28
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Adamsharif;
You do seem to have a phone that, under UK law does not appear to be fit for the purpose for which it is intended, regardless of the warranty obligations of HTC.
In reality, you should back everything up and factory reset the phone, if only to rule out any problems which could be solved, by doing this. If then, the phone does not work, you are well within your rights to demand a refund or a replacement.

If you're not willing to do a simple reset to fix potential issue, HTC and the users here are definitely not going to be willing to help you out. We can't reset the phone for you, but you still want to fix it by using and looking at the phone until it behaves itself.

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Right, so how about the fact that I've actually read a variety of other forums including some of the operators' own too? You have ASSUMED that I have only looked at XDA.
Aggressive?! Childish?! I think you're reading into things too much here... What part of "man pays relatively large sum for device and is disappointed by its many flaws" do you not get?
Anyway, this is boring me; I guess I'll never know if anyone else actually has the same camera issues...
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Here you go, proof that the majority of XDA members have no issues whatsoever with their device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585082
Of course, people with no problems don't post much on forums, so the actual, real-world results of such a poll would be MUCH more one-sided.
As for your camera problem, many people have suggested fixes; Factory Reset, re-flashing RUU and, if all else fails, return the device and get a refund/replacement.
People seem to think their £500 device is going to be perfect. Don't get me wrong, It SHOULD be perfect, but no device is ever going to be. The HTC One X issues are also relatively minor compared to some devices that came before it.

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Did u updated to 1.28? In 1.26 some pics cannot be processed,this has been solved completely in .1.28
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Exactly. There's an old thread about this issue. Fixed with 1.28
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Ok, I guess I shouldn't have been so stubborn - currently backing up the device and will do a factory reset.
The backlight issue, however, is the one I'm returning for - the thing I find strange about both that and the camera issue is that they suddenly appear which really makes me feel that there are hardware issues in the first batch.
Lesson learned - don't buy a handset as soon as it comes out!
Personally I feel that mobile manufacturers need to undertake better testing and not rush their products to market - if you look at many of the recent handsets from Apple, Samsung, HTC there have been a lot of silly issues which have damaged reputations.
If I can have a HOX with working camera, backlight and calling it will be the perfect device!

You don't want to change your phone and yet you can't live with the problems. What do you want? Just ranting? Got it.
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ALL THE CORRUPTION ISSUES EXCEPT FLICKER are solved by firmware 1.29
My new hox was updated to 1.29 two days after I bought it, I never encountered the said issues, also flicker is related to overheat on 1.29 the phone temperature is a lot better
you regret buying the most praised and critically acclaimed android phone lol

I think we're being a little harsh on adamsharif, I love my HOX but its not without it's flaws and some of the 1.26 bugs were just messy...the phone shouldn't have been released with this firmware...it was rushed but I can understand why with the SG3 looming!
Unfortunately the average user turns to a forum when he / she has issues, the average user doesn't sign up to XDA to just say how happy they are, some do, just not your average joe, so it all looks like doom & gloom!
£500 is a lot of money, should we have to factory reset it after a few days / weeks? Should we not expect a near perfect product considering the money spent....I don't know....android isnt a perfect OS so I think the arsehole answer is get an iPhone!? I think in 3 months time we'll all be happier and mostly problem free!
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Guys please stop the pointless comments.
Back on topic. I suggest you try a third party camera app from market and see if that works. If it works, i too believe that hard reset will solve the problem. Also, don't underestimate hard reset. It usually solves most unknown issues

[Q] Should I wait or just dive in?

My HTC One X JUST came into the mail today and I want to get started and get my favorite custom software already. However, the fact that my phone could possibly have a problem out of the box, if I start doing dev stuff, I lose my warranty. Should I wait a bit? I feel like I would notice if anything was wrong already.

SedaG said:
My HTC One X JUST came into the mail today and I want to get started and get my favorite custom software already. However, the fact that my phone could possibly have a problem out of the box, if I start doing dev stuff, I lose my warranty. Should I wait a bit? I feel like I would notice if anything was wrong already.
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Personally I would hold off at least a week just to make sure. Cause you would be kicking yourself if you do have a problem and HTC decide to try and charge you for it cause your unlocked.
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Personally I would hold off at least a week just to make sure. Cause you would be kicking yourself if you do have a problem and HTC decide to try and charge you for it cause your unlocked.
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That's a very good point.
Some common problems with the device sometimes only show up after a few days use and sometimes HTC wont repair your device if it's rooted, even if it's a hardware problem.
After a week any problems that it might have should have showed up

Thanks guys! Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. I suppose I can live with Stock for a week while I test everything out. I would definitely be pissed at myself if they wouldn't service it simply because I wanted Adblock over the next week. haha.

I usually give it a month or so before I do anything to void my warranty. I've had phones before that had something wrong with them that I didn't notice until they were no longer under warranty, so I give it a while before I bother. Plus, this phone is undoubtedly much faster than your previous, so even stock it should be a sizable boost. Enjoy it as it is for a little while, then when you put custom software, you'll get that boost again!

I had mine rooted and flashed straight out the box.
Your call though...

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I had mine rooted and flashed straight out the box.
Your call though...
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Mine over 1 night !
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Check out the defects thread and check your phone thoroughly before unlocking, I'd give it at least a month as some issues don't manifest straightaway
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DONT DO IT YET. i had mine for 2 days, after 2 days yellow tinting appeared on it, i am definitely going to wait a few weeks when HTC send it back, hopefully we will have S off then

Give it a week or two. Longer the safer.

Thanks guys! You rock. I'm definitely gonna wait. I'm thinking a week or two so I can test every feature which I haven't been able to test (blue tooth, tethering, and more) or even discover for that matter.
And yes, I came from the Moto Milestone 2 to the Moto Backflip... To the One X. The experience isn't even comparable. I am so happy with the improvement I am just giddy over the fact that I have this super phone. No rush to throw custom on it when it's already this good. Only SERIOUS reason I would unlock for at the moment would be battery and AdFree purposes but for real, the battery isn't that bad.. Idk why people keep hating on it. I am a pretty heavy user too. I mean, it's got some serious hardware to run!
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Do not root your phone...

Have been around for a while now, and my best advice is leave your phone as it is out of the box. If you are not a developer or you know what you are doing. Rooting your phone can get expensive since you give up all warranty on software you also hand htc a reason to not help you if they have a hardware issue. Every little thing can be blamed on software even dead pixels. I just bought a one x it is now back at the shop as DOA, and I will receive a new phone. If I had rooted that device be damb sure they would have pinned me with a bill for the work. So I will not root my one x before I know that there is no bugs screen errors speakers or any other hardware faults in it. Rooting just ain't worth it if want too use the phone on a daily basis
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I have rooted some phones over the years and I personally prefer to leave stock as well. I am not worried about warrantee since software can be reflashed and never had a tech sweat that so much as to hold bad software against me. It's an easy fix and anything easy to fix is easy points on their repair exchange ratio. Any tech blaming bad pixels on software makes me wonder.
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I know it is idiotic too blame dead pixels on software. But I have two htc phones that has dead pixels and I don't get a new screen cause they are rooted this is one of them. Further this phone reboots randomly and I can't seem get rid of it with different roms. And a tech told me that there is a hardware bug in the motherboard of the phone, but I can not get it fixed cause the phone is unlocked... No regret tho cause I love this phone and playing around with it are fun :-D But it will not ever be my day to day phone, and that is why I wrote this. Unlocking and rooting it might render the phone into a toy and not a reliable phone
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OrjanTonder said:
Have been around for a while now, and my best advice is leave your phone as it is out of the box. If you are not a developer or you know what you are doing. Rooting your phone can get expensive since you give up all warranty on software you also hand htc a reason to not help you if they have a hardware issue. Every little thing can be blamed on software even dead pixels. I just bought a one x it is now back at the shop as DOA, and I will receive a new phone. If I had rooted that device be damb sure they would have pinned me with a bill for the work. So I will not root my one x before I know that there is no bugs screen errors speakers or any other hardware faults in it. Rooting just ain't worth it if want too use the phone on a daily basis
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No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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Og silly me, I forgot that you can lock your phone after you have unlocked it with htc dev
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ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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Nothing stupid about his post at all, when you relock the phone they know anyway!

ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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No, your post is stupid. Do some research on bootloader unlocking then edit your post.

ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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You can NOT unroot your phone...

srashedian said:
You can NOT unroot your phone...
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Technically you can, you can relock the bootloader, this will unroot the phone, however it will leave you with a phone that has a "relocked bootloader" which means what is says, not that it's still rooted.
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azazin said:
Technically you can, you can relock the bootloader, this will unroot the phone, however it will leave you with a phone that has a "relocked bootloader" which means what is says, not that it's still rooted.
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Thank you, Yes, that is what I meant (You can not return your phone to factory default situation to get warranty)
OrjanTonder said:
Og silly me, I forgot that you can lock your phone after you have unlocked it with htc dev
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After locking boot-loader it will show "RE-LOCK" not lock, so you can't get warranty by simply re-locking your phone again... And you're right, you shouldn't unlock-root your phone unless you are completely satisfied with the device itself, and even after that rooting is a dangerous procedure (although it is easy to do)

Hence why it is better to wait for S-OFF.
However it's a risk and individuals have to decide whether the risk is worth taking or not to unlock via HTC Dev.
I took the risk and all is fine, no HW issues to speak off if anything happens in the future I full well know that I took the risk and will have to take the gamble on whether warranty gets honored or not. Touch wood I have no problems but with technology anything can go wrong anytime.

I think its down to the individual. If the extra cost of repairs is not thing you can afford then maybe stay away. Most of of us are on here because we like to play around with our tech and rooting is one way to customise it so its worth the risk. Even with unrooting technically being easy to spot.

I see too many in here, that actually breaks the phone. I can afford breaking my phone, but when it comes down to my day to day phone. I really need it too be just that a phone, and flashing it always brings me more hassle.
And one x is still fresh of the block, and those I know have had to return the phone at least one time. So unlocking this phone is more of a gamble than a older brand that has been around for a while.
I am not looking at developers and people that are used to unlocking and fiddling, but at those that are new to this.
The warning that you break the warranty is real. And after you have stepped over that line there is no way back.
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OrjanTonder said:
I see too many in here, that actually breaks the phone. I can afford breaking my phone, but when it comes down to my day to day phone. I really need it too be just that a phone, and flashing it always brings me more hassle.
And one x is still fresh of the block, and those I know have had to return the phone at least one time. So unlocking this phone is more of a gamble than a older brand that has been around for a while.
I am not looking at developers and people that are used to unlocking and fiddling, but at those that are new to this.
The warning that you break the warranty is real. And after you have stepped over that line there is no way back.
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There are several people here who have gotten their phone fixed under warranty even though their phones have been re locked. As long as you return it to stock I don't see why HTC shouldn't fix your phone, given that you haven't caused the problem.
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LOL, really？ coming on xda without any itentions of rooting...that s kinda weird to me...my friend who dont wanna root, have never ever came on xda, even when i told them how good it is.
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Kevin Ma said:
LOL, really？ coming on xda without any itentions of rooting...that s kinda weird to me...my friend who dont wanna root, have never ever came on xda, even when i told them how good it is.
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Heh there is more on this site than just rooting your phone. ;-) it is actually a very good site too find out what is coming look at beats among other. Why do you think beats are added to the one x? I have been on Unix systems since I was twelve, and done kernel work. So being able to see android form is fascinating. And maybe your friends just don't want to know how it works, just as long as it works.
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All the OP did was warn us. He said if you ain't a developer don't . His subjective opinion. I ain't a developer but I still root every phone I own and that is a lot. I am comfortable with ADB and fast boot. Someone else like me will disregard this post.
The most the OP will do is scare off a new comer from rooting. Whether this is good or bad is unknown. He may have well just prevent two "help I've bricked my phone" posts or on the flip side prevented the next Chainfire from being realized.
I can't say I disapprove with the entire post but a few elements shouldn't be added. Remember this is a tech site. Saying not to for anything unless its proven to be harmful goes against what XDA stands for.
Just try and be more responsible when you post. Not everyone is savvy. People do come here to learn.

Jagerzero said:
All the OP did was warn us. He said if you ain't a developer don't . His subjective opinion. I ain't a developer but I still root every phone I own and that is a lot. I am comfortable with ADB and fast boot. Someone else like me will disregard this post.
The most the OP will do is scare off a new comer from rooting. Whether this is good or bad is unknown. He may have well just prevent two "help I've bricked my phone" posts or on the flip side prevented the next Chainfire from being realized.
I can't say I disapprove with the entire post but a few elements shouldn't be added. Remember this is a tech site. Saying not to for anything unless its proven to be harmful goes against what XDA stands for.
Just try and be more responsible when you post. Not everyone is savvy. People do come here to learn.
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I second that.
Its always good to test out the phone thoroughly before you root the phone. Rooting is not difficult..if done right it can really help you get the most out of your device.

I think that Android phone with out ROOT is very stupid.
1) The simplest proof of this - the inability to remove unneeded applications.
2) Your GPS is bad because of an incorrect region. And you can solve it in two ways. ROOT or RST Phone(+about 8 thousands of rubles)
3) Android without ROOT is the same as Windows without the system administrator)

FiReDoGGi said:
I think that Android phone with out ROOT is very stupid.
1) The simplest proof of this - the inability to remove unneeded applications.
2) Your GPS is bad because of an incorrect region. And you can solve it in two ways. ROOT or RST Phone(+about 8 thousands of rubles)
3) Android without ROOT is the same as Windows without the system administrator)
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lol, just so u know though, ios doesnt let u install all of the stuff as well, say for on android, at least AFTER.i root, i can unstall htc locations and stocks..but even after you jailbreak, uninstalling system apps is a lain in the ass.
for ios users, jailbreaking doesnt make as much difference as it does when rooting on android
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