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who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas

ratha4 said:
who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas
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It's not even out yet

In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.

Mastoid said:
In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.
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We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind

hello00 said:
We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind
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You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases

Mastoid said:
You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.

hello00 said:
You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.
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I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.

Mastoid said:
I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.
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You never know man..At first they thought that they werent going to be able to port Android and look how far they have gone. Wait a couple more years, hopefully at the end of this year..and you are gonna have WM7 on your HD

Mastoid said:
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.

band27 said:
Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.
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i knew there were restrictions but i was unsure of what kind exactly. Unfortunately, as you stated, the HD does not support the pinch-to-zoom feature.
Thank you band27.

If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc

hello00 said:
If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc
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Time will tell as it is now nothing more then a waiting game.
The full capacity of WM7 can only be unleashed through the proper devices. Diamond and touch pros are not these devices and if WM7 makes it to these devices in some shape way or form, it will be interesting....

The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.

Mastoid said:
The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.
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You have not made a valid argument yet you have some weird standards of what it means to have the "hardware requirements" then.
Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^

TooHot2Handle said:
Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^
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just that you're not unleashing W7's potential.
It's just like having a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, which supports HD videos, on a currently-officially-running-under-Windows-Mobile-6.5 HD2 , or if this is unclear, another example: running Windows 7 on a PC with 200Mhz processor and not-touchable-monitor
here's a major requirement that HD not fulfilled:
Touch: Multi-touch required
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unless you provide resistive multi-touch software and reconfigure our HDs and so on.

WM7 will not be coming to the HD officially or unoffically, case closed....some of XDA's wonder developes may be able to get some builds working on HD, but these will be limited and you will never see wm7's full potential. It would like having a ferrari, but being restricted to 1st gear and 30 miles an hour. May look nice on the HD, but whats the point of having it
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Windows Phone 7 on Desire?

Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
or
[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )

Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.

Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?

I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.

lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money

That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.

shaundalglish said:
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'

It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.

i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs

Dualboot IMO

http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well

Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol

If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...

It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..

Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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brianius said:
If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol

dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...

Wrong Thread

WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.

Windows

Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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are you winding me up?
Why would you want to do that - i dont think its possible, and im sure someone will back me up

I'm sure after much development it could be done but most people here won't get close to windows mobile with a stick!!!!! I think most of us are running away from it, so yes, it can probably done but no, it's not likely anybody is going to do it!

Okay lol, Does anyone know whats the best Modded rom i can port to my Desire? please provide links
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628

atomfix said:
Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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If you wanted to run WM you should have probably just bought yourself an HTC HD2 instead.

Windows mobile on desire might sound stupid but....
I was wondering about the same... I have quite a few apps for windows mobile and work email sync on windows mobile is so great - those two things combined made me wonder, maybe I can run WM on this great device?
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?

Why ask the same question every 2 weeks creating new thread with same discussions?

bluemetallic said:
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
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I'm afraid it is, because it gets asked with alarming regularity and each time it is met with the same derision.
The simple fact of the matter is that most of the people who have the necessary skills to port WinMo to an Android probably bought one to get away from WinMo in the first place.
In addition, it's far easier to port Android to a WinMo phone because Android is open source.
Regards,
Dave

What if everything is erased... kernel, android rom etc.... then install windows mobile on the desire? is it possible? Some people are not running away from it lol like me XD.

I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?

Aitese said:
I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.

tuatha said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
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Oh yeah I would love Windows 3.1 :'( :'( lol

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Since when are phones just like computers? Yes these are smart phones and you can get "software" for them, but they are still integrated systems. Here, if it's JUST like your computer add more RAM. Upgrade the processor. Get a better GPU for it. You can't...it's NOT a computer in the sense you think.
If I want a Linux computer I buy one, if I want Windows then I'm a fool for buying the Linux system and vice-versa. These phones are now just a couple of hardware buttons and a screen. The difference is mostly software so buying an android phone when you really want WM is just plain dumb.

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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It's nowhere near as easy as just wiping the device's ROM and flashing some generic WM ROM, you'd bump into all kinds of conflicts. You'd need device drivers for your specific set of hardware, which are mostly available only to the manufacturers and more than often only come for the O/S iteration the manufacturer designed the phone around.
Seriously, you're way better off selling your Desire for a original WM phone.

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Linux and Windows come with drivers for all sorts of hardware. In addition, if they are not on your installation media, you can usually download and install them.
To get WinMo on the Desire, you're going to need the drivers for the hardware. Some might exist, some might not - the problem is getting them an integrating it into a ROM.
Chances are that even if you could do it, it would be a suboptimal solution - if you want to run WinMo, buy a WinMo device.
Regards,
Dave

I guess it's only a matter of time before our phones start running multiple operating systems simultaneously within a virtual machine.

[Q] Is it posible to downgrade a windows phone 7 or android to windows mobile 6.5

Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian

Nope. Not possible.
Why would you expect your customers to hack their devices to install WM 6.5 just to run your company's software (which would kill their warranty for the device) even if it was possible?

Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.

People seem to think phones are like PCs... They aren't.
Downgrading is easy. Bring the WP7 devices back and get HD2s or Tilts/TouchPro's, etc. Samsung Jacks or Epix if you're into that formfactor.

I would never expect anyone to do this on my request
it was actulaly the client that asked me My only reply was that I would look into it
regards Christian Andersen

Its not possible but on the bright side, there will be a big update in Jan

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
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why are you dropping support for 6.5? and why not make a wp7 port, from what I've heard, it's not that hard.

There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian

tboy2000 said:
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010

Martice said:
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
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sorry but these were only rumoured and as you can already see, the htc trophy is now the HTC 7 Trophy...

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ

Fa310tx said:
I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
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Touch control are koo but arent a good replacement for d-pads imo...mainly for games. Maybe one day some finds a way to have a slider cell that has dedicated game keys like a psp & physical kb like the tp2.

candersen said:
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
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I'm guessing you've done 0 development on WP7?

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
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HTC support said it would be possible.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.

cbebop7 said:
then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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For me because it doenst have a keyboard..

nurps said:
For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
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then get a mytouch 4g....

Doesnt have a keyboard.

nurps said:
Doesnt have a keyboard.
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I meant the g2...

[Q] Is that possible for Desire hd get a mango?

See,the hardware of htc radar is so similar to desire hd,especially the CPU,they are totally same, as we all know htc radar is a mango device, so I've got a interesting question here :Is that possible for Desire hd get a mango? Sorry for my poor English ,wish you can understand me ,thank you~

Someone has to port it to the device.
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so..e...you mean there are possibilities?

You should've just bought the device which official runs the mango update then look for ports of android ROMs for the mango device which is more likely to happen compared to the other way around it which you mentioned on OP.

No
Never happened so far... possibility of it happening is very low, coz mango's proprietary, not open source like Android

but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??

renehd2 said:
but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??
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#6 good question~!

renehd2 said:
but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??
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#6 good question~!
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No it isn't....it really isn't
The HD2 was originally designed to run Windows Phone OS, 6.0 i believe but correct me if im wrong.
It is in many ways similar to the DHD but they are NOT THE SAME DEVICE. It comes down to the source or WP7 being locked down, it is a MS piece of software, so you will be able to port it to compatible devices such as the HD2, but you would need access to the lowest level of source code in order to write for the DHD hardware (drivers, init etc blah)
This question has been asked so many time, just not about mango...Mods please close.

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No it isn't....it really isn't
The HD2 was originally designed to run Windows Phone OS, 6.0 i believe but correct me if im wrong.
It is in many ways similar to the DHD but they are NOT THE SAME DEVICE. It comes down to the source or WP7 being locked down, it is a MS piece of software, so you will be able to port it to compatible devices such as the HD2, but you would need access to the lowest level of source code in order to write for the DHD hardware (drivers, init etc blah)
This question has been asked so many time, just not about mango...Mods please close.
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But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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renehd2 said:
But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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The hd2 could run it due to a bootloader being made for it to run.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Why would you want to run mango on your HTC anyways lol?
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renehd2 said:
But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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I go back to my original point ITS STILL MICROSOFT CLOSED SOURCE
Who cares that the OS is different, Windows 95 is totally different from Windows 7 you try telling me that they are open source.
Yeesh, Why has this thread not been closed yet? We've had this question like a million times and we always trot out the same answer.