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I'm coming from a Nokia 5800. Although the software was buggy as hell, Ovi Suite was still a great piece of software to sync all of my phone's data to a local copy of my PC (as opposed to Google's nosy cloud storage).
Ideally looking for something that could archive my contacts--as well as abilities to create/change/delete on my PC which would then sync with the phone. Also download all SMS's, photos/videos taken, and manage music.
If what I've read is true, google music should take care of this, its supposedly an itunes-like software
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Check out Double Twist. There is PC software and an app. Not sure if it would cover all your needs (ive never used it), but it appears to be a decent itunes clone for not just Android but other devices.
theres an app callled mybackup in the market. it will back everything up to the sdcard, then u can copy backup to pc if this helps.
Since people aren't too familiar with Ovi Suite: I need something like Palm Desktop for Android, and I don't want to pay $40 for CompanionLink.
Dude, you need to learn to love the cloud.
From GMail/GMaps/GVoice/GDocks/GCal/Picassa, I have every email, sms, voicememo, picture, video, call history, transcribed voicemail, task, appointment, map location, contact, document, etc. All from any webbrowser in any location, all damn-near instantly synced with my phone.
...but to answer you question, search for HTC Sync. I think it only works with Sense tho, so you will have to wait and flash the Z firmware once the hackers make the g2 flashable.
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Dude, I love the cloud.
But I also love having a local copy on my computers (which I back up regularly and save to my Dropbox). Being able to edit contacts and calendar entries without having to bring up a webpage is huge to me.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
Not all of us always have constant data access, nor want to depend on it.
Plus, the difference between a webpage and outlook is MASSIVE.
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I know this is a pointless argument, but I am curious if you have ever given gmail with gtalk-desktop in your tray a real chance?
I used outlook at a job for work and personal for 6 years, then used outlook for work another 5 while using gmail for personal, and for the last 2 I have been gmail only. I always had the newest version on the newest os, but not in the last 2 years.
In outlook I was always sorting and running a search all was always dog slow. I can find anything in gmail as easily as finding any webpage with google. Gmail integrates with google calendar just as well as outlook and they can sync to eachother. Just sayin.
...anyway, did you look in to HTC Sync? Also, you could always run an exchange server at home and sync over the air.
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I'd probably choose services that keep the home PC synced with the cloud, keeping a local copy of what GMail etc use. Enough people do that that there are tools for that, and of course your phone syncs easily with the cloud. I think enough Android users drink the Google kool aid that there's not as much interest in syncing directly phone to PC without using the cloud as an intermediary. After years of wired syncing, I'm thrilled to have it work without any work on my part, personally.
But a search did turn up both The Missing Sync for Android and Handset Manager - both look to still be a bit buggy, but maybe they'll do the job or be worth watching.
We need HTC to make HTC Sync for non-Sense phones. Period.
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Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
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Totally agree, That's the only way to go, really. When I moved up from my Moto Cliq to the G2 it took all of 5 minutes to get my phone the way I wanted. The hardest part was customizing my icon on the home screen. The data all synced from Google. My list of installed apps was backed up via "App List Backup" and I just re-installed them. Done.
I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
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I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
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The fastest way would be Zune and Bluetooth send/receive.
It's necessary to have it to stay with the platform.
Skydrive and Mesh is almost certainly where they're headed. I'd be extremely surprised if Zune ever supported Office file transfers.
The cloud, nothing is faster than the cloud.
Edit a file on your desktop and it updates on all devices.
Need to share a file? Just share the link.
Cloud synchronization will be the norm.
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Jeffgeno beat me to it.
nothing is faster than cloud??? crazy.... upload to cloud and download to phone or upload direct from PC to phone.. which faster??? and safety??? upload confidential file to skydrive??? more crazy.....
We need a place to sync outlook files but aside from that what other files do you want on your device.... they're not necessary... I dont really wanna set up this whole cloud business
Cloud is great but in many scenarios IDIOTIC.
To put a doc on my phone I need 2 devices with connection - PC and phone. Sick!
And it's the first time I can't send anything by bluetooth to any other dumphone or phone without any data transfer. Sick too.
Right, let's just clear this up shall we?
Currently there are several methods of getting a file such as an Excel spreadsheet onto your phone.
1. Email it to yourself, then open and save the attachment on your phone.
2. Use the Live Mesh sync included with Windows Essentials to sync your excel files to Skydrive. Then navigate to your Skydrive on your phone and download the file(s) you need from there to your phone.
3. Download and run one of the many small free Webserver apps on your PC. then you can serve your files over your home network and download them to your phone just by browsing to your mini website.
I don't use 1, I tend to use 2 and occasionally 3 as some apps like 7Pass (a password manager) use web servers to obtain the (in this case a password) file from your PC.
The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
I'm optimistic this will happen in the update coming soon, but it might wait until the fall.
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The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
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I think this is the best way to go and hope microsoft will do it like that sooner or later.
I understand that and it's a valid point.
I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...So hopefully there will be a way microsoft makes this possible.
But besides of that, syncing over cloud is important for me at least as long as i am at home or something.
I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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Once you open it it's automatically saved to the phone.
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I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Okay, thanks for explaining. I didn't know that.
Well then it's good news. Except you will have to stop your phone from syncing when roaming. But i assume, that is possible? (couldnt test it out)
I'm not offended. I don't think no one else is either.
Its silly that they provide you with a cord for media, but that same cord is useless for one of the other touted features.
Guys, please keep this thread on topic, and quit with the bad language. Swearing is not tolerated on xda.
I'm going to assume that the integration will be more advanced and full soon... The whole point of this device is to utilize live functions... Like SkyDrive
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Your talking about from phone to PC right? I think MS should give an option to allow an adjustable amount of your phone's memory to be used for USB mass storage functionality. Like make a slide saying, Maybe I want 2GB available, or maybe 20mb. You know to copy file formats WP7 supports. Atleast for what you can't sync via Zune Desktop software.
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Despite being with Android for about 3 years I still haven't found an adequate sync solution, mostly for photos and videos. Can anyone help?
What I want is to connect my phone to my laptop, which is a mac. I don't mind if the connection is USB, wifi or bluetooth. USB is more flexible, there are times when I can't get both devices onto the same wifi connection.
I want the software to look at my photo archive on my laptop, and copy over any new files. It just needs to look at a date - if there are new files since the last time I synced, I want it to copy them.
Even better, though not essential, would be if it didn't mind whether I'd deleted or moved files from the laptop. It wouldn't look backwards, just see that the last sync was 22nd July and then copy any files since then regardless of whether the photos from 20th July had been deleted from the laptop but where still on the phone. This makes it easier to sort photos once they're on my hard drive.
I've tried Cheetah Sync, which works ok but only over wifi. If I'm travelling, there may not be a wifi connection. It also copies over everything - so if a photo has been deleted on the laptop, it's replaced again.
dropbox will sync photos and videos automatically
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dropbox will sync photos and videos automatically
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Oh, ok. I'll have a look.
EDIT - I came across a new app called CloudVault, which uploads photos to GDrive as you take them or when you're next on Wifi. Pretty good solution for me.
what have you found to be the most painless method for synching photos, movies, music, files, etc with your android phone and computer? Mostly a Mac based computer but I would like to hear about PC usage as well since there are many programs that are available for both.
I just signed up for dropbox but can kind of suck if you have a bunch of pics on your computer, transfer them to your phone and then the phone syncs them back to your computer and dropbox cloud. I realize I can unlink my computer but there are some other things I am reading about dropbox where if you deselect on the phone the pictures in the cloud go bye bye...still researching this.
It was nice to get 48 gb on my USA samsung note 2 today for free...for two years. Must be the rom I flashed.
Music is a big deal but pictures and movies are. I somehow lost all my pictures in the past week but did do a backup about a month ago. I still lost several baby pics of the kids that I am a little pissed at myself for not backing up previously. I dirty flashed the same rom and wiped some caches but I didn't think the pictures on my card should have been deleted.
Isyncr for itunes music its perfect my friend I use the paid version is well worth the money
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For simple transfer of files, I use SSHDroid on the phone and Filezilla in sftp mode on the PC (for local wireless network transfer). I use both Linux and Mac, so it's cross platform and has never failed me. Easy and painless.
Music just gets uploaded to Google Music. I use the above for Movies, TVShows, etc. for offline viewing.
If I have time I pick music in the mediamonkey... if I'm lazy I just log onto the smb server and copy paste.
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I will check into those. I guess I really do a lot of music so in a pinch I can restore off my mac with android file transfer. I am working with dropbox this weekend to check it out a bit. I like the fact that after I take a picture it is uploaded to dropbox and my computer however long after taking it.
It appears to delete the pictures as well as they are deleted from the phone, as it was designed. I still have to look into what happens if I accidentally delete my picture album or something. That sounds like it would trigger a complete synch and subsequent deletion of the photos that I was trying to backup in the first place. In this instance, it sounds like dropbox would pretty much suck and having backed up to dropbox would have been worthless. Maybe there is a setting somewhere that makes it have to go through some authentication before deleting photos
So I have a 2 part Dropbox question that basically amounts to me not fully understanding how it all works even though I use it on a daily basis... maybe someone here could help me out...
So I have Dropbox, on my phone (Galaxy Note 3) and 2 PCs, Home and Office.
Question 1 - You know how Dropbox on Android automatically when you're on Wifi uploads every single picture from your phone to a "Camera Uploads" folder on your Dropbox? Well since they're all uploaded already, and I have something like 3000 photos, which is starting to make my Gallery load slowly... Wouldn't the best way to clean them out be to just completely wipe all the photos from my phone... Then go through the Dropbox folder on one of my desktop computers and delete any crappy pictures I don't need to keep, leave the rest in there for backup purposes, and then if I wanted to keep some on my phone, copy those ones back onto my phone?
Question 2 - If I go through that "Camera Uploads" folder (Or any other folder in my Dropbox really) deleting and renaming and reorganizing files on one of my desktop computers... Will all those changes instantly happen on the others? Even if I'm deleting and/or renaming and/or moving around hundreds of files? What's to stop the other computer from syncing back to the one I'm currently going through and undoing all the changes I just made? Like if I have a folder called "X1" and another called "X2" and I delete a bunch of stuff out of each and then combine them into one and then name the new folder "X" ... The other computer at work isn't gonna go and sync my "X2" folder back to the computer I'm currently working on, right?
Obviously these are both a simple but clear misunderstanding of how all this cloud syncing works. I get it in principle, and use it constantly, but there are certain ideas of it that I think I'm just overthinking probably.
Any help would be appreciated.
Also I know that Q&A goes in the Q&A forum but I thought since this is a software thing and not really a phone thing it would be more appropriate in here...
From how I know it works (at least for me) as long as all accounts are logged in with the same info (name/password), and are auto-syncing, the folder that is modified first will be copied to the others when you open Dropbox on the others. In your example you have three (two PCs, and your phone). If you change something from your phone, it will replicate to your two PCs. If you change something on one of your PCs, it will replicate to your other PC, and your phone. It also works with the online site the same way. I just changed something in my phone, logged on to the website through my PC browser, and it replicated right away to match what I did on my phone.
EDIT - And I know you are talking about pics and gallery, and for that I would move/delete from the app on your phone, and not through the gallery. I think if you do something in the gallery it will just change back because you're not actually modifying Dropbox. I'm not really sure since I do all my stuff through Dropbox itself. You can try with one pic to see if it deletes from your other places if you delete it from the gallery.
Thanks for the reply. So yea if it's basically doing it instantly, then I think I'd be safe doing my plan the way I'm planning on it. My plan is to delete everything off the phone, which I know from experience doens't sync deletions to the dropbox... Just new pics get synced to dropbox... So if I delete pic11111.jpg it will still be in my dropbox folder... So with ALL my pics deleted from my phone's gallery, I can then go to my computer and spend a couple hours deleting specific garbage pictures, and those will then sync between the 2 pcs. Then I can move them out of that "Camera Uploads" folder and into a more permanent "Pics" folder. Or move first is probably even better...
Thanks again.
I use Dropbox all the time, I've got 4 accounts (Need that extra space) and then I've got it installed on my Note 3, Nexus 7, and a Galaxy S3. As for computers it's on my Mac, two laptops and a PC desktop. I installed them on all of those for the referral bonus space but now they all have the exact same account. So in answer to your question, you could go on your phone go into settings and turn off camera uploads, but then you would need to go into your gallery and manually upload the pictures you want to keep (which isn't a huge hassle to me at least.) Since you are using cloud storage technically all the photos that get uploaded wouldn't get eating up your space unless you have google+ enabled as well, then they will appear on your phone. Not all of them, but a good majority. I don't know what kind of a computer you use, but when I have dropbox on my MAC sync all of my folders that i have, I swear I get pictures that are quadrupled all the time....so frustrating. In answer to your second question, you can modify any picture, document, etc, that has been uploaded from dropbox to a computer and make any changes you want to it without it making changes to another linked computer. Only way it it would is if you put that changed photo for example, back into your dropbox folder. Hopefully that made sense