For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
There are essentially 3 forms of A2SD:
1. Froyo A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to the FAT32 partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
2. Legacy A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to an EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
3. Legacy A2SD+ - moves the application (from /data/app) and the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) to the EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the application data (/data/data).
Options 1 and 2 should be pretty much identical in terms of internal storage usage, and option 3 should save the most space.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that any attempt to move /data/data to SD card causes a lot of instability, which is surprising because I would have thought that the Dalvik cache would have been more problematic.
The long and short of it is that there is no way to stop applications from consuming storage if they use /data/data. A prime example is Google Earth, which still consumes a lot of internal memory regardless of A2SD because of the data in /data/data.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, with the fusecompress mod to compress the Dalvik cache in internal memory.
Regards,
Dave
kitkit1981 said:
For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
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legacy apps2sd that comes native in froyo, just moves the .apk to the sd card, and not all apps can be moved. apps2sd+ that comes with custom roms, creates a parallel file system identical to that of androids but on your sd card, then points your device to the sd card as the install location, this means alot less space is taken up on your device, some install data is sometimes still stored on your device but for example i have over 200 apps on my desire and some of them are quite large, rockplayer/nfs shift/ 5 or 6 gameloft games ect and i still have over 50mb free
Thanks for your reply, I have a clear concept of these two app2sd now
So i just root my unbranded HTC Desire with Android 2.2 (from holland)
I rooted with the unrevoked method. Link here
I wanted to root because i was in need of ROM, only had 15MB left and everything was already on my SD card installed the normal way.
also with the "forced install to sd" method i was still in need of more ROM.
Like in the post above i just want to have 400 apps installed.
So i need a custom rom.
Now i have notes that if i install a custom 2.2 froyo rom i may have difficulties with bluetooth or fm-radio and maby other problems.
I have also heared about htc releasing source codes and now it should be possible to work around or fix those problems i just mentioned.
anyways I am still n00b in this all and doing allot of research for now. I just want to have a rom that would be the same as what i have now(WORKING WITHOUT PROBLEMS AND NO BUGGES) but with the app2sd in it so that i can have 300 apps and still have free memory.
so could somebody tell me what to do? is there already a custom rom out that works perfect, or i should stick with my rom, or what about OpenDesire
Well hope somebody can help me out with some wisdom.
Cheers and thanks in advanced.
DesireDroid
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
or should i figure out to make my own custom rom?
DesireDroid said:
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
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Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
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k having that said, i was thinking of buying a 16gb microsdhc class 6 card.
but, well i didn't know about the bluetooth HID , still is it hard to build up my own custom rom?
I mean, getting for example my current rom and modding things. or getting an official rom from htc and modding that?
try different roms and see which one is the best. Defrost, Opendesire, Aurax, or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
all of them are great but the best depends on your taste and expectatives.
k making a backup now.
I think i go try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
I have a 4gb microSD card, so i read that to enable a2sd+ i need to repartition the sd card. can this be done from the phone? i got the clockworkmod recovery.
and shall i make it 1GB so i can install more apps? just thinking crazy.
"is this Rom Manager in the android market?"
Hi all, just discovered that cyanogenmod doesn't support app2sd. Is there a simple way to fix this. I want cm but what I really want is more internal space memory. Can't really use a rom without the ability to have lots of internal space. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
I'm very confused, just found some information on Apps2SD - CyanogenMod Wiki and it says...CyanogenMod 6 supports application installation on an external SD card, giving users more room for apps, and can benefit certain apps - such as games that use lots of storage. The Application's Info screen (Settings » Applications » Manage Applications) now has either a “Move to SD card” or “Move to phone” button. Copy-protected apps cannot be moved to the SD card, and the button will be grayed out.
The "Manage Applications" screen in the Settings app now has an “On SD Card” tab. The sizes listed in Manage Applications only include the space taken by the application on internal storage.
NOTE: Not all of the application's data is actually moved to the SD card; the dex files, private data directories, and native shared libraries remain in internal storage.
I must be missing something, can anyone clarify this please, how can i get cm6/7 on my desire and have lots of internal memory, I have a 16gb sandisk sd card.
Thanks for any help.
Try reading these two threads...
[ROM] CyanogenMod-6.1.1 for Desire (GSM/CDMA): V6.1.1 (16/12/2010)
[NIGHTLY][ROM][GRH78C] CyanogenMod 7 for vendor Bravo (HTC Desire GSM)
...post 2 in particular
Hi all,
Got a HTC Desire running InsertCoin 1.1.1 (CM7 boot) and everything seems to be running smoothly (been on it for ~1wk, upgraded from IC 1.0.8)
To save space on the phone's internal memory, I've moved several apps to SD Card (only the ones that let you move). However I found two problems each time I reboot the phone:
Apps on SD card, lose their icons and no longer appear in the lockscreen
Apps on SD card, which are put into folders lose their icons
To fix #1 I had to re-configure the lockscreen
To fix #2 I had to re-create the folder
Note:
All apps work as normal
Only apps on SD card are affected.
Apps on SD card which are placed directly on screens don't lose their icons
Was wondering if anyone else is having a similar problem, and/or know how to fix this problem.
Thanks!
pyko
ps. also had this same problem with v1.0.8
The apps you install are basically moved to the EXT part of your SD card already as it implements A2SD+ from the start. Moving apps to the SD (the only ones that let you to) simply transfers it to the fat32 of your SD card and defeats the reason for having 1GB EXT partition requirement for Insercoin ROM. Also, it may be the reason for with your icons and lockscreen breaking.
If you concerned about memory issues, it is because Dalvik cache is still saved on the internal and that is the one eating up your memory. You can either move the entire dalvik cache to EXT or selectively choosing which app's dalvik cache goes to the EXT.
Check this link as this was the script made based on Insercoin's selective data to ext transfer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072895
Original tip here: http://docs.insertcoin-roms.org/master/en-US/misc/free-space-without-data2ext.html
Thanks for the reply!
Just to clarify, to make sure I am understanding correctly... since there is A2SD+ with my CM7 InsertCoin Rom it is actually not a good idea to move apps to SD Card? ie. I should leave them "on phone" (since it is actually on the EXT?)
Yeah leave it on the phone since it will go to the the ext part of the sd anyway. Moving it to SD the normal Android way would just move it to the fat32 side which would be redundant don't you think.
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hey guys i have the custom rom paranoid android for my device but there seems to b a bug and i want to fix it but idk how some apps cant pick up my exsdcard for example the camera app saves pictures to internal and apollo and google play doesn't search my music and its bugging me there was an update in which i tought it will fix the problem but no its still there how can i fix this help me plzzzzzz. i have use media rescaner and all those apps one that worked for me was ics binder but my phone ran out of batery and when i rebooted the problem started happening again please help me.
I'm having the same problem as can't save camera photos to the external SD card. There is a setting in the camera app that says "store" not sure what it means but it doesn't seem to change anything.
One other thing I would like to confirm is under system settings is the "storage" setting in the prior ICS version you could format the external SD Card. Here format SD Card formats the internal SD Card. Can you format the external SD Card from settings? Not what I was expecting, guess that's why I backed everything up.
I'm running Paranoid 4.1.2 and it is fantastic and fast. I was on ICS previously and had these settings before.
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but either way Paranoid is awesome!
Thanks for your advice.
Save camera pics to external Sd card
I guess tagging onto 2 week old thread with no responses was not the best idea
Looks like saving camera pics to external sd card is not an option. I even downloaded
Camera from ver. 4.2, same thing. Only solution I can make work is use a different camera app
than google's.
Still not sure why 4.1.2 does not have an option to format the external sd card just the internal.
Still like Paranoid, seems very stable.
I'm just installing the official CyanogenMod 12 nightly ROM to my D855 now and I have just bought a 128GB SD card. I don't want it to go to waste, so one of the things I'd like to do is install apps to the SD card by default if possible (I know some apps have a manifest file that prevents this). Is there some setting in CM12 that lets me install apps to the SD card by default? Or is there any reason I should not do this? I have seen it written that you shouldn't always try to put apps on the SD card, but I don't see why not.
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I'm just installing the official CyanogenMod 12 nightly ROM to my D855 now and I have just bought a 128GB SD card. I don't want it to go to waste, so one of the things I'd like to do is install apps to the SD card by default if possible (I know some apps have a manifest file that prevents this). Is there some setting in CM12 that lets me install apps to the SD card by default? Or is there any reason I should not do this? I have seen it written that you shouldn't always try to put apps on the SD card, but I don't see why not.
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What you can try is: Settings, Apps, press three dots at the top right and select external SD. Don't know if it works at all/with most apps though
Pfeffernuss
Thanks for the solution. It works.