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Data Connection : Please Explain

Hi all,
Firstly, I'm new to winmob devices but as a developer I wanted to get my hands on one and start building some apps. I bought an unlocked TP2 and so far I'm really impressed and happy with it.
Now, I've searched the forums and can't find anything that completely addresses a question I have about Data Connection. It's a bit n00b but as I said I'm new to this I've never had a phone that could connect to the internet before.
I have a data plan with my provider, but when I'm at home I have the phone on the wifi. Sometimes I have it on the laptop at work or home (via USB cable).
What I don't quite understand yet is what is the priority for data connection? e.g. if connected via USB it will try to use the internet connection of the pc? if connected via wifi it will use that as preference? When the phone isn't connected to either, obviously it will start eating data from my plan, but I'm not clear on how the phone uses the internet etc. when on wifi or via the USB cable. I assume there's some kind of "preference" order or setting.
Can someone please enlighten me?
Thankyou for your time!

I've not seen any setting, but I believe it is:
USB ActiveSync (First priority)
Wifi
3G data connection
GPRS data connection (Last)
This is my experience anyway - certainly Wifi should be higher priority than any cellular/mobile connection. And I think I noticed that my web browsing was going via USB cable instead of Wifi when that was plugged in.

I agree with the above post, however I have noticed that If I run an app (lets say the YouTube app) with no active wireless or activesync connection it will use 3G or GPRS depending on available service, however If I then turn on Wireless I have to restart the app, it doesn't seen to automaticaly switch over to the new wireless connection which is a shame.
Tom

Question - Can you tether a Wifi connection from your Phone to your PC

Hello, I have been searching around for a day and a half now to no avail. I figure I will ask here as a last attempt before I go and buy another USB wifi adapter.
I am trying to use my HTC Dash with WM6.5 to tether an available wifi connection over to my Windows 7 PC. Basically trying to use the phone as a wifi adapter. The phone has no cell data service, but can connect to the home wifi network that is here. My Windows 7 PC has no Wifi adapter (I left it behind >.<).
Here is where I am at. The HTC Dash is connected to the Wifi network, and when I try to select a Network in the ICS program, it says there is none available. I have been able to get USB selected in ICS, and the phone connected to the computer. In Windows I see a Windows Mobile Remote Adapter in the Network Connections area when I sync the device in Windows Mobile Center. But no matter what I try, ICS sharing on the phone will not let me select the Wifi connection it has.
Through my searching I have found a lot of information on tethering 2G and 3G internet through USB, and using the phone as a Wifi Hotspot. But those where no help in this.
My friend on a G1 with Andriod can tether Wifi connections to a pc, and I am wondering if Windows Mobile can do the same thing. I can flash my ROM from to 6.0 or 6.1 WM if needed.
Thanks in advance to any advice given, hopefully someone can help me out

UPDATE: Still have no luck. I found a program called ICS Control v.21, but it only works on touchscreen WM phones, not WM standard. Which means a bunch of crashing.
This program would do exactally what I need it to do... just does not support my phone. Well the search continues... looking like I may just have to go buy an USB Wifi adapter soon.

tethering w/wifi
It does work. I'm currently answering this on my 2nd desktop Vista with my S620 via my home wifi network. Waiting for a 25' ethernet connector to hardware to wifi/modem Not quite sure how it is with a wifi adapter but 2 things I do know from experience. You shouldn't need an adapter.
1st: you can't be in Sync Center while trying to tether, at least in my case on a Vista desktop. It won't let you tether while the sync is running (or your already synced).
2nd: (this worked for me) open internet sharing on your Dash/S620, pc connection-usb and be ready to hit connect the 1st couple of seconds after pluging your usb connector into your phone, and give it 10-20 seconds to actually connect. If you wait to long to hit connect, the phone will start syncing with the computer. Won't let you tether.
RE-read post, missed thar "WinMo" remote part. My bad. Don't own Win 7. Don't know what that is.
Question: Is there an active wifi where you are ? From your post it sounds like "yes"
You do not need a wifi adapter. You do need a USB cord.
I tethered with edge for a bit, but then got to thinking. Try Wifi. It worked, but be quick.
Neither one is super fast but Wifi is definitely faster than Edge. Better than not being on the net at all. Occasionally it'll cut out, just unplug usb, get to connect screen, plug in and hit connect. Should be set.
As a side note: I also tried tethering with G1. Xferd pc driver to Vista from G1 but computer says it can't find the driver. Gave up after 2 hours.
G1 tethering works great on XP though.
Hope this helps. Good Luck. Really cool when it works.

Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers

ee.mike said:
Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
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I'll have to break out the Dash again and let you know. It's been sitting for weeks since I repaired LCD screen and flashed my TMO Wing. Can't seem to stop playing with it.
Give me a little time and I'll get back to you.
You do have a wifi modem, correct ? I was using usb.

Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks

ee.mike said:
Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Well, in your case, I won't be any help. What I did was run a 2nd computer off of my Dash with a Wifi Modem.
XP in another room with a wifi modem attached on Comcast, Dash on wifi and usb to Vista computer, since I didn't have a 25ft ethernet cable at the time.
Was running Vista-Dash-wifi modem-XP to comcast so I could run 2nd computer without being hard wired.
I'm familiar with wifirouter cab. It let's you use your phone like a hotspot, correct ?
In all my searches for various things for the phones, I thought I saw a different application that did the same thing. Possibly might even have it. I'll check and upload for ya if I find it. Have hundreds of cabs/zips to search. Let you know.
Possibly google it and you might find it yourself. There's a program called: WalkingHotSpot online for $24.99 if you don't mind spending. Dash isn't listed as a supported windows device but looking at the other phones listed my guess would be it should work. Try their DEMO version, see if it works.
Good Luck.......
2AM and I was just wondering......When you received your phone, you also got a usb cable with it, right ?
Why don't you just usb Dash to laptop and use "internet sharing" ????

My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.

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My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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Do you have a home computer ? If so, get yourself a Wifi Modem and set up a home network. $40-60. Although Comcast sold me mine for $20 and I get to keep it. I can get all 5 phones on the internet at the same time, not that I need to. It'll also be so much faster then running thru Edge. Besides the fact video's don't play for crap tethered running through Edge. Just a suggestion.
My opinion stands concerning Apple. Get ready to cough up more fees for internet (ATT). They're doing away with unlimited data. Did you see their prices ?
You'll never catch me with ATT.
I just put WMWifiRouter on my TMO Wing 6.5. let you know how it worked. Setup went fine, so far.

did you try downloading the actual .cab from WMWIFIROUTER.COM it's only a trial for 21 days, the "Free" versions don't work on the dash i've tried many of them.
once you install and get it set up be sure to write down the Access ID and Password it gives you so you can connect to the WiFi signal beaming from your phone from your PC. It works for me to tether a WiFi connection from my Dash to PC though I prefer the more stable Internet Sharing USB to PC and I have an Unlimited Data Plan.
WMWIFIROUTER also lets you tether a connection from your phone via bbluetooth.

I use WMWiFiRouter and its a life saver. It lets you pretty much tether any connection to any other.
Just yesterday I was at a meeting in a resturant with some clients and used it to hook my netbook to the internet and used bluetooth as the connection to the phone. Yes, Internet Sharing can do that, but it has alot more it can do too.
You can use Bluetooth, USB (it shows up as a USB modem), or even set it up as a WiFi Router.
Very cool program and it works perfectly on the Dash. I love it.
I never tried the trial version. A friend of mine showed it to me, so I just bought it. It's under $20. Well worth it if you run into that situation often.

Connect to Ad Hoc without internet through Wifi

Hi everyone!
I'm having kind of a special problem.
I'm an electro acoustic musician and finds the Desire a lot of fun.
My new project is to use its accelerometer etc and for that I need to connect it to my Mac running OSX 10.6.5.
The issue I'm having is that my network (campus ish) won't allow me to open any ports. I don't think it's a good idea to hack it, so my next idea is to create a network between my Mac and my Desire. This network won't have access to the internet.
It also has to be via Wifi since the app I'm using only allows communication through wifi and my java skills aren't good enough to edit the apk.
I therefore run Oxygen 1.0 (GREAT rom btw) which is supposed to accept ad-hoc, and my computers own network does show up when i browse it in my phone.
The problem is that it dosn't connect since it isn't given an ip. I imagine there has to be a solution to this and I'm just not seeing it. I'm also thinking it could be an OSX issue and not really a question for this forum, but I'm pretty sure it should be possible to just make the phone not requesting an internet ip.
I've tried to set a static IP but this won't work ether.
Does anyone have a clue on how to do? I'm quite desperate really. Been searching for a solution online for quite some time and I haven't found the right one. Probably because most people using ad-hoc want it's phone to connect to the internet and therefore not having my kind of trouble. Unfortunately I have no way of connecting my computer to the router with wire since the router is about 400 meters away. Once of corse, but i really need a wireless solution in the long run.
Thanks!
Christopher

Mobile Wi-Fi router stopped working

So I've been using the Tom coding package that installs the mobile Wi-Fi router with no problems until last night... now it keeps trying to connect to ISP.Cingular and then stops... it basically doesn't work now. I've tried to uninstall and reinstalled it dozens of times with no luck.
And yet... the 3G connection works because I can browse through Opera. So...?

OhI might add that I can turn on the Wi-Fi and connect to my in-house router just fine and do what on the internet through the phone. SO... it is definitely something specific with wireless internet sharing.
???
Someone please he me I use internet sharing DAILY

You need to make sure that it is connecting to the correct address. At the bottom of the App, it should have a few different choices of connections to use. Try another one and see if it works. You may have to set up a new connections for this to work properly. Keep in mind that tethering/mobile hotspot is not covered by AT&T's wireless data plan. It is a separate monthly charge. You should be careful when using it too much at a time, so they don't block or throttle your connection.

The device I am trying to connect with to my Tilt 2 is a Samsung Galaxy Tab, and apparently it doesn't like ad-hoc, whatever that is exactly. I was told on the Galaxy Tab section of this forum that this is the case, and that I need some kind of "mobile ap", although again I do not understand what that exactly means. ???

Ah, see that's much better information. So, no, you probably won't be able to connect without another app doing so. Ad-hoc is, simply put, a connection to another device other than a router which is allowing you access to its Internet connection. If the device you're trying to connect with doesn't allow ad-hoc connections, then the Wifi Router app won't do you any good, as that is the type of connection it uses. Most mobile devices do not natively support this, however. The problem, therefore, is with the Galaxy Tab you have, not with the TP2. Find an app or mod that allows for ad-hoc connections and you'll be all set.

Well is there an apparently for the WM phone side of things that will do non ad-hoc??

No. Ad-hoc is a connection between two devices. Unless you use a router, that's how it's going to be no matter if you are using WM, a laptop, iOS, Android, et cetera. The connection type is determined by the device sending the signal. If it comes from a device, then it is ad-hoc. It is not a problem with the software. That is how wifi was designed to work in the first place. The problem, again, is with the Tab, not the WM application.

Well apparently there is a solution for the Tab that allows it to see ad-hoc networks, so I will try that and let you guys know how it went.

Can no longer connect to Ad-Hoc with Tilt 2
I have been using both the CM Internet Sharing program and the WMWifiRouter with no issues for over a year now on my AT&T Tilt 2.
One day a couple weeks ago I had been using CM to connect my laptop to the internet. everything was just fine as usual.
At some point, I had disconnected and tried to reconnect, and since then I can no longer use either of these programs.
What happens is this...I turn them on and the phone will no longer hold a connection to the ad-hoc network that is created. Up in the status bar I see the icon showing WiFi trying to connect but it will not stick anymore.
I can connect to my office and/or home wifi router still. It just will not connect to the ad-hoc network any longer.
This makes no sense to me at all, since it has always worked and was even working earlier in the day when it stopped working.
I use the tethering frequently and really need to get this solved. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tether to Replace Home Internet - Closed Port Issue

I want to start out by stating this may be a general Verizon issue, but was hoping to get some input here first on the issue I'm facing.
My situation is that I want to replace my home cable internet with my LG G4 via tethering. I installed a wireless card on a desktop computer, connected it to VZW network via wifi tethering from the G4, enabled connection sharing on the desktop computer, then plugged an Ethernet cord from the desktop into the WAN port of my home firewall/router. This worked perfectly, giving the rest of my home devices internet via my 4G connection!
However I have some externally facing services, such as VPN and RD Gateway that don't seem to work over the 4G connection. I've done some troubleshooting and have a suspicion inbound communication on these ports is possible blocked by Verizon.
Sidenote - these services are configured with a Dynamic DNS provider - the external IP address does change correctly when I cutover to 4G service.
I reverted my home network back to the way it was and started focusing on the G4. I played with iptables (I'm rooted) with no luck. I attempted to open ftp connection to the G4 on port 2221 with no luck (using FTPServer & FTP Server Plus apps), still nothing. I changed the port a few times to something random > 1032, still nothing.
Does anyone know if Verizon is blocking external inbound communication, or possibly if there is something on the G4 I'm overlooking?
Any information is appreciated! If I can get through this issue, I can cut my ties to Comcast!!

Everything I've read in the past says that Verizon does not allow inbound TCP connections to your device via LTE. I'm guessing that the same applies to other wireless providers.