Good morning all. I unRooted my phone by running the RUU file on my computer with HTC Sync running, and it worked just fine. The only problem that I have now is that my Market does not work. I will try to download an app, new or previously purchased, and it will not download them. It says "Starting Download" and a few seconds later it will pop up in my Notification Bar that the download was unsuccessful.
I used the RUU posted in *OFFICIAL* RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15. 00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_rel by Whosdaman.
Am I missing something? Should I try it again with an older RUU file?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I posted in the wrong forum, please let me know. I figured it was relevant here, as it has to do with unRooting and such. LOL
settings - applications - market
then clear cache
I tried that trick already. Also, when I unRooted, I had the 1.8ish version of the Market. I tried all the tricks to get the updater to automatically update the Market, but it never did. I resorted to finding a vending.apk and doing it myself. I'm not sure what this does, but I also did the dialing of ##786#.
Sorry for leaving that out of the OP, it's been a long night at work and I'm ready for sleepy time. I try my hardest to figure things out beforehand, because I don't want to bother y'all with piddly little questions. I just couldn't find the answer for myself this time.
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I tried that trick already. Also, when I unRooted, I had the 1.8ish version of the Market. I tried all the tricks to get the updater to automatically update the Market, but it never did. I resorted to finding a vending.apk and doing it myself. I'm not sure what this does, but I also did the dialing of ##786#.
Sorry for leaving that out of the OP, it's been a long night at work and I'm ready for sleepy time. I try my hardest to figure things out beforehand, because I don't want to bother y'all with piddly little questions. I just couldn't find the answer for myself this time.
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Have you tried updating your profile? Settings-about phone-update profile.
Swyped from my HTC EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4 loaded with all the goodies
Sure did. That was one of the first things I did. I went through and updated Firmware, Profile, PRL and Hardware. Wanted to be thorough on the process. LOL
Do ##data#, hit edit, go to data, once in data hit menu, finally hit reset
Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob. How do you do ##data#? Do I dial ##3282#?
strange that i just did the same thing and my market works
That's not strange, it sucks! LOL! Well, I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you brother. Hopefully we can get mine fixed, as I have to take it into the Sprint Store on Monday. They already know that my phone was rooted, so they told me if I had to bring it in again just to unRoot it. It's gonna look funny that I've had a phone since June, and it's not personalized in any way? LOL
reinstall gapps
I can't post a link as its proprietary.
but search google gapps .apk you'll find it.
Then clear the cache again if that don't work.
If that don't work, then your out of options.
LOL! I'll try it out. I appreciate all the help y'all.
Hello IAmTheTrueUI, I have a question for you. What method did you use to root your EVO and using this RUU did you get s-on in your hboot screen? I rooted using unrevoked 3.2.1 and it gave me the permanent s-off. I also used the RUU to unroot(just want to be able to in case I need to take it into Sprint) and everything was stock except I still had s-off. I've been reading about the s-on tool from unrevoked, but it says you may lose root forever and I don't want to try it if I won't be able to root again.
This is for anyone that would like to answer: If I use the son tool from unrevoked can I get root back? Has anyone tried it and been successful in rerooting their phone? Thanks all and much appreciated.
housry23 said:
Hello IAmTheTrueUI, I have a question for you. What method did you use to root your EVO and using this RUU did you get s-on in your hboot screen? I rooted using unrevoked 3.2.1 and it gave me the permanent s-off. I also used the RUU to unroot(just want to be able to in case I need to take it into Sprint) and everything was stock except I still had s-off. I've been reading about the s-on tool from unrevoked, but it says you may lose root forever and I don't want to try it if I won't be able to root again.
This is for anyone that would like to answer: If I use the son tool from unrevoked can I get root back? Has anyone tried it and been successful in rerooting their phone? Thanks all and much appreciated.
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yes i have mutiple times after you flash the son tool you can just run unrevoked again and gain root once again
EDIT: this is what it says verbatim on the unrevoked wiki "Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update "
I used the unrEVOked 3.2.1 as well. Loved being rooted. Can't wait to fix this, take it back to the store real quick, then come back home and root again. LOL
IAmTheTrueUI said:
I used the unrEVOked 3.2.1 as well. Loved being rooted. Can't wait to fix this, take it back to the store real quick, then come back home and root again. LOL
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you did flash the s-on tool right?
No, no I did not. I didn't think I had to unless I used the unrEVOked Forever method. Am I still able to do this if need be?
I just unrooted yesterday using the s-on tool and PC36IMG to bring to stock and it worked great with no issues. I just decided to go stock for a while until the new update rolls out. As matter of fact that was my second time using that method because I wanted to be sure it would work if I ever had to bring my phone in to Sprint. Good luck getting it fixed!
I truly hate to ask, but could you explain that method to me? I'm about ready to Root my phone again and just flash a ROM that just looks like a stock ROM.
IAmTheTrueUI said:
That's not strange, it sucks! LOL! Well, I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you brother. Hopefully we can get mine fixed, as I have to take it into the Sprint Store on Monday. They already know that my phone was rooted, so they told me if I had to bring it in again just to unRoot it. It's gonna look funny that I've had a phone since June, and it's not personalized in any way? LOL
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Don't worry about the market. They're not going to use it for anything in the store and you can always reroot and get it back into working order.
It's actually good that you leave it look not personalized. Just last week I walked in with my phone overheating and rebooting. After their guy spent an hour looking at my phone, he said he could hold onto it even longer and "probably fix it" by doing a factory data reset. You'll be able to sidestep this by just telling them that you already did and that's why it looks like it does now. In fact, you could actually try that now to see if it makes your market problem go away.
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I truly hate to ask, but could you explain that method to me? I'm about ready to Root my phone again and just flash a ROM that just looks like a stock ROM.
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I used the method in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
There is a method there if you did not use Unrevoked but what I did was just download both of the files listed there to the root of my SD card>booted into recovery and flashed the s-on zip>used the power off option then booted into hboot and saw it said s-on>allowed it to load the 2.2 PC36IMG and it was done. I ran the lasted update after it was completed. I'm no expert so I hope this was helpful for you.
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My Evo is doing fine, but I was trying to help a friend root his yesterday and the Unrevoked 1-click apk didn't appear to be doing the trick. The only difference I can think of between our two phones is that I haven't downloaded the update that came this week. Has Sprint defeated this root method in the most recent patch?
Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.
chazglenn3 said:
Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.
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Right, this method requires you to use a PC though, right? I'm wondering if its still possible to root it using the unrevoked on-phone application, or has this been defeated? And if so, was the defeat in the most recent patch?
bump. I'm afraid the answer given is still a bit unclear to me. Can someone please clarify?
Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.
ashbare said:
Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.
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Yes, this is exactly what I did. The apk downloaded and installed, but didn't appear to gain root when I ran it. I ran it several times, but every time I attempted to run wifi tether, it would say that I wasn't root.
You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn
Mast3rpyr0 said:
You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn
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Thank you for the reply. I'll probably end up Simple Root for myself, but this is for a somewhat elderly friend of mine. He only needs root for wifi tether, since he can't get broadband where he lives (3g is okay). I figured the apk root method would be suitable for him since he would know how to uninstall it if he needed to claim is warranty or something. I won't be around to support his phone for him.
Anyway, thanks again. I'm still learning myself and appreciate the advice.
Ahh ok, he can always hit the wipe button and it will go back to a state good enough for the average sprint rep.
I Installed unrevoked 3by usb because i got last version 147.651.1. Its anyway to unroot and get back to stock rom. I tried different ways and nothing for example i wiped data, hard reset . etc.
Right now i dont have wifi is unable and that why i would like get back to stock. Also i use the method with htc sync and the ruu 132.651.1 andgive me error 171 then reintall the ruu give me error 140 and boot to the main screen/
Please any solution to get back to stock .
thanks in advanced,
Hey guys,
I just got my replacement phone yesterday and wanted to root, my old launch phone was rooted using toast method. I want to be fully rooted with nand unlock. Is the "how to root Android 2.2" on the development forum the best way to do this? If not what it? Thanks in advance guys.
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search for the Unrevoked, "One Click root"
I used the unrevoked method but as always follow it to a t. And make sure you get the s-on zip just in case you need to get another replacement
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I rooted my evo today using unrevoked. It was very simple and quick. Perfect for someone new to Android and rooting such as myself.
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I rooted my EVO today using the unrEVOked3 one click method....and I'm guessing it's rooted. I tried on "several" occasions to use the shootme app when not rooted and it did not work, however it does now.
On the flip side....I can not tether, as it says I do not have root accsess. Also holding down the volume button and power button, it goes into the white screen and when I hit fastboot it "I'm guessing" scans and comes back saying 'no image found' a bunch of times and returns to the main menu.
When I tried to hit the "recovery" button it went to a blackscreen and showed a picture of my phone with an exclamation point over it. No buttons did anything....pulled the battery and all was well again.
So I went back to the unrEVOked (as I am assuming I have no recovery image on my phone - and I tried to put on on the root of my card and see if fastboot would find it....it did the same scan "no image found" and I wasn't going to try to go into recovery again, lol)...so I went back to UnrEVOked and tried that all over again with the phone pluged it, it found my phone and said pushing recovery 'clockworkmod' and then all of a sudden - failed....terminating push.
I did that twice and I now have no idea how to get a recovery onto my phone.
Could it possibly be that I am rooted and not NAND? How can one tell if they are not NAND (I have no superuser icon)
If anyone has had this issue or is way more experience in this unrevoked one click root thing.....I would much appreciate the help
I recommend against unrevoked because it seems like more problems or steps are needed to get it running smoothly.
Use this guide paired with simple root.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...34-how-rooting-htc-evo-froyo-2-2-windows.html
Worked like a charm on my replacement evo.
Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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Once you downgrade to 2.1 you can root with the 2.1 simpleroot. Then you can flash any rooted Froyo ROM you want. You do not stay at 2.1, unless you flash a 2.1 ROM.
i cannot speak for the unrevoked forever as i have not implemented it and do not plan to.
the unrevoked team has been known to put out a couple products that perhaps were not as fully tested as they should have been. but then again, this is a dev site...it's all use at ur own risk. that being said, unrevoked3 has been out for a while and seems to be ok. i have used it to root phones for friends.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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There is a way to root 2.2, it's called Unrevoked. The latest version 3.21 works great. I used it to root 3 EVOs and had no problems at all. It takes 5 minutes.
So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???
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So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???
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yes. you have full root + NAND is unlocked. as per unrevoked3
you do not need to run the UnrevokedForever. i have not and do not see myself running it. if more of the devs whom i have technical respect for start recommending it, then perhaps.
you only really need if 1) you a dev and are playing around with some new update for some reason or 2) ur impatient
for example...there is a new update hitting shelves. folks that are impatient will want to load up the latest and greatest...and will often loose root. rather than wait for Myn to release their updated ROM. personally, i would suggest just waiting for Myn to update.
until you have a better feel for how things work. stick with the 'name brand' Rooted ROMs. they will be updated pretty quick. you can see how many posts some of them have...might be a good indicator of activity.
enjoy you new device.
don't forget
- ALWAYS read the first post all the way thru
- to copy a nandroid over to your computer once in a while. (sux if you have a nandroid from yesterday..but your phone is lost or card melted)
- backup your launcherpro settings
- something like smsbackup+ may be helpful
- titantium backup. the paid version is very much worth it if you plan to play with your build a lot. faster and easier by and far. (look into making the update.zip from within titanium as a backup option)
I just got a second hand EVO the guys said he didnt root it but after I set it up the 4g will not turn on and the wifi does not work. Its not searching or giving an authentication error just says unable to start 4g and under wifi it just says error.
Doesn't seem like the same issue most ppl have listed was hoping to get some help fixing this.
fbodylt1 said:
I just got a second hand EVO the guys said he didnt root it but after I set it up the 4g will not turn on and the wifi does not work. Its not searching or giving an authentication error just says unable to start 4g and under wifi it just says error.
Doesn't seem like the same issue most ppl have listed was hoping to get some help fixing this.
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So you're currently unrooted at the moment? Have you tried the simple things first? such as a battery pull, and then updating the profile and prl, via menu/settings/system updates. Also, some info on your phone would help figure some things out. What radio version are you on, what software version, pri version, and your bootloader shows S-on or S-off?
If I was in your situation, and just got the phone, I'd run an RUU to completely wipe it and put it back to stock. Find an RUU here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu : If you don't want to use RUU, you could simply load a PC36IMG to your sd card, boot to the bootloader, and let it update that way. Either way, if it works again after flashing back to stock, great. If not, at least we have a baseline of knowing exactly where you stand, and not wondering what hte previous owner may or may not have done to possibly jack things up.
Well first, I would download the wimax keys checker from the market to double check to make sure they are there, cuz I have seen people lying about stuff like that.
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Well first, I would download the wimax keys checker from the market to double check to make sure they are there, cuz I have seen people lying about stuff like that.
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Only thing is u gotta be rooted to use that. Maybe a temp root with z4 and then check the RSA keys.
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Only thing is u gotta be rooted to use that. Maybe a temp root with z4 and then check the RSA keys.
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True, so I would recommend that course of actions, as it can be the quickest answer.
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So you're currently unrooted at the moment? Have you tried the simple things first? such as a battery pull, and then updating the profile and prl, via menu/settings/system updates. Also, some info on your phone would help figure some things out. What radio version are you on, what software version, pri version, and your bootloader shows S-on or S-off?
If I was in your situation, and just got the phone, I'd run an RUU to completely wipe it and put it back to stock. Find an RUU here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu : If you don't want to use RUU, you could simply load a PC36IMG to your sd card, boot to the bootloader, and let it update that way. Either way, if it works again after flashing back to stock, great. If not, at least we have a baseline of knowing exactly where you stand, and not wondering what hte previous owner may or may not have done to possibly jack things up.
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You rock bro I uploaded the ruu and everything is working great now.... now I just need to nandroid and root!!!
fbodylt1 said:
You rock bro I uploaded the ruu and everything is working great now.... now I just need to nandroid and root!!!
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Well, root then nandroid.
http://unrevoked.com/#evo
Go there, download the install
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.p...driver_install
Go there and install the hboot drivers
Lastly, install htc sync, then uninstall the program. On your phone go into settings > applications > development > check usb debugging.
After you've done that, connect your phone to your pc in charge only, then run the unrevoked reflash package. It'll take about 5 minutes and reboot about 2 times, let it run the full course.
Ever since I first rooted my Evo back in June or so, I havn't paid much attention to the instructions for rooting. Back then, I went through it using adb and a different RUU, etc. Now, with programs like Unrevoked, it seems like a much easier and faster process.
I'm thinking about taking my phone back to Sprint to get the speaker replaced. I know how to fully UN-root, but just wondering if when I get the phone back home, can I get full root again with nand unlocked just by using something like Unrevoked?
Like I said, I hadn't been paying much attention to rooting, and the last issue I really read about was when (froyo?) first came out and you had to root by using some Adobe program, which seemed like a bit of a hassle.
Unrevoked does it all.
jasongthang said:
I'm thinking about taking my phone back to Sprint to get the speaker replaced. I know how to fully UN-root, but just wondering if when I get the phone back home, can I get full root again with nand unlocked just by using something like Unrevoked?
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Yea, you can. It couldn't be easier.
Unrevoked is so simple!!
Alright, thank you guys very much!
The reason I had asked was, I knew on the Moment, apps like the 1-click root method didnt fully root the phone, so some roms couldn't be flashed properly. Just wondering if that was the case for the Evo also.
jasongthang said:
Alright, thank you guys very much!
The reason I had asked was, I knew on the Moment, apps like the 1-click root method didnt fully root the phone, so some roms couldn't be flashed properly. Just wondering if that was the case for the Evo also.
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Only thing with unrevoked:
1. download hboot drivers
2. install then uninstall htc sync
3. enable usb debugging on your phone
4. all set to go
Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.
Thariz said:
Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.
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Menu>Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Factory Reset
let me repeat my question, and get more specific. I need to wipe all data off my phone, everything.
Then I need to get the OS back on it.
Can someone tell me if you can do this without root, I need to completely clear all partitions AFAIK and then get a new CLEAN UNHACKED OS onto my phone.
Factory reset is not enough
RUU is not enough (alone anyway)
I need to get the flashable regions of my phone totally clear of malicious code.
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I don't think you have any options without root...only other option without root is boot into bootloader and clear storage.
For curiousity, what did you do that you need to undo and how could you have pushed "malicious code" onto other partitions without root?
unless you work for HTC or know somone that does, i thnk you are pretty boned, even contacting them directly all ive gotten is the usual "it cant be done" line so ....just wait for the hboot to get hacked and do it then i suppose..
What Android version are you on and your phone is currently rooted correct?
He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.
4.24 gb EVO
hacked as hell
i think it was rooted before not to my knowledge, and flashed. also calendar exploited via google, I hope i can get some help outside the dev forum, because I i know they dont like questions there, thats why im posting here instead.
cant clean it now that i have OTA'd to GB.
I am finding alot of cool app engines along my trials and tribulations. makes me wish I had not stopped working in security several years back.
Someone gonna give a guy a hand? I am as trustworthy as they come if you are worried about anything getting out and about.
If it was rooted before, go into the bootloader and check if it says S-ON or S-OFF. If it's S-OFF, you can flash a recovery and now you're rooted again.
If it's S-ON, no, you can't do anything right now.
yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.
Thariz said:
yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.
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Sigh...ok...I'll bite. Why do you think your phone is doing this? What evidence?
And does the tin foil mess up your hair?
i watch the logs, i see the mic and or cameras come on, i see the filesys filling where I cant go see it because im not root, i see the traffic as it xmits it from local host to local host, i see the traces of the encryption keys and stunnels. This is only one instance.
I hope there is someone around here who has something more to offer than the people outside the dev forums, im getting killed following the rules.
So let me get this straight and my apologizies for sounding confuzed becasue every reply has been all over the place and has been of no real help to you yet..
Your on GB version 4.24 correct? Previously Rooted without you knowing? Your trying to get back too 100% stock as well? I hope I'm following this so far.
1st, the easiest way, download Root Checker from the Market and that will tell you right off the bat if your rooted or not. If thats not possible, enter bootloader as stated before and verify S-Off at top of screen. If so, flash Amon_Ra Recovery (rename to PC36IMG.zip if not already and place on root of SD Card). Enter bootloader and let it scan, apply update and from there you can do what you need to do. If it says S-On but you know your rooted, go to xHausx Auto Root guide, download the Froyo 3.70.651 Stock rom and place on Root of Sd Card named PC36IMG.zip, enter bootloader, let it scan and apply update, that will take you too 100% stock Froyo with hBoot 2.10 and you can apply GB update if desired or root with whatever method of your choice.
Once again, sorry if this is not what you were wanting but its irritating when you get the run around and people talk about tin foil hats and ridiculous stuff...and agreed, very hard to follow rules when most replies are worthless.
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He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.
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Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.
I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE
If you were originally s-off, the ota shouldn't have updated hboot. It can't turn you s-on, unless you reverse it yourself first..
Which means you were always s-on, and currently there is no way to assist you.
lets start over. are u S-OFF or S-ON? that will determine what ur options are.
Thariz said:
I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE
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There isn't anything that can be done for you at the moment. You said your s-on which means your not rooted which in turn means your bootloader is locked and you can't install a recovery and install the files you need to fix your problem. So I would call Sprint and tell em your device is being defective.
pnewgaard said:
Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.
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If you could read his original post, he said - it is currently not rooted - who cares if it was rooted before or not. He has S-ON = NOT rooted = he is out of luck...
That's my 3 cents