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Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
Erm...then don't root it.
he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?
ingvarr_zaag said:
And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?
stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so
PsYDoX said:
Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?
PsYDoX said:
Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?
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I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
spences10 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
briskmojo said:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.
Let me start of by saying I'm really grateful for all of the hard work all the devs put in for this big win! But I'm trying to weighout waiting for a 1 click or if I should test my adb skills. You know how it goes. Thanks everybody!
This has already been done with visionary
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I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.
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I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.
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amen to that! but no joke, word for word is hard to mess up. a lot of the things u end up doing is gonna be some word to word stuff, no one click tricks usually. so get comfortable
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the video makes it very easy just watch that and do exactly what he says it works great
I rooted my phone without adb... lol
it can all be done via terminal
visionary 13
has any1 tryed the app visionary13 perm-root yet and did it wrk i found the app on MaDaCo site but i havent used it yet i am waiting for my new g2 to come to come from tmobile had to get a new onw one cause i took the google goggles off and that made it so that i could not get the new ota-update so when the new one comes i want to root it trying visionary13.
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has any1 tryed the app visionary13 perm-root yet and did it wrk i found the app on MaDaCo site but i havent used it yet i am waiting for my new g2 to come to come from tmobile had to get a new onw one cause i took the google goggles off and that made it so that i could not get the new ota-update so when the new one comes i want to root it trying visionary13.
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you got a replacement for your phone because you couldn't take the time to revert on your own and then apply the update? shame on you.
@OP
root is very easy, if you can read and follow directions you will be fine, but what the others say is true, if you are worried then you should either learn up on your sdk tools or not root your phone because i promise you will get a bootloop one day and not know what to do and you will ask us if it is broken and how to fix it(unless you have been doing your reading), and most likely if we tell you how to fix it then you are going to need adb anyways
rooting is really easy if you use the rage method.
grivad said:
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.
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Thanks for being a ****, but your anti failed, I upped my ADB to spite you. 3 phones rooted, no problems yet.
It's just my opinion, but I don't think the one-click root method is great for the G2. Unlike the Vibrant there is a step that can brick your phone, and you are best doing that one by hand. Plus, learning ADB will make your life sooooo much easier when you actually do root the phone.
Rooting is just the first step, then you have to do cool stuff to it. Then you need to screw it up, and then you need to fix it. All of that is made much easier or requires ADB.
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Rooting is just the first step, then you have to do cool stuff to it. Then you need to screw it up, and then you need to fix it. All of that is made much easier or requires ADB.
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Haha, so true.
I was just wondering if it should root my Epic 4G Touch. I have a few reasons for wanting to Root, namely, Free WiFi Tethering, and silencing the Camera. However, my concerns are voiding the warranty, and losing my data. In your opinion, is it worth it?
Also, if I unmount my Micro SD card before rooting, there's no chance of losing any data on it, correct?
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I say go for it and you got nothing to lose. I was also once contemplating to root
or not and im glad i did
Phones can also be unrooted and restored if something happens to go wrong.
You will have lots of benefits such as using custom roms,using root applications,
modding your entire phone to your liking etc etc...
Should I root?
Yes you should root for sure the android world is ever expanding and becoming easier and more complex Ive learned so much tinkering with my E4GT how to root use odin install roms over clock under clock change voltages memory tweeks Mali GPU tweeks. also it makes jail breaking and unlocking the iphone look like a sad little controlled by apple baby the android OS is wide open to any and all customization and you dont need google's permission to do it. so yes i would root any android phone its so much better than stock ROM and Kernels. Good luck please post any more questions if u have them ill help you out the best i can.
Rooting really unlocks the potential of your phone. I know most Sprint stores are probably different, but when I picked up my E4GT the guy at the counter had a custom rom on his phone. And told me not to worry about rooting/flashing as they can usually reset the phone (before ICS of course). And if they couldn't save it, then I would have to pay a 100 deductible. Not to shabby, and of course haven't hard bricked yet (knock on wood). Just make sure to read, read, read! And check out qbking 77 videos on youtube. That guy is a genius, and if you follow his steps to a T then you will be fine. Good luck!
+1 on the qbking77 videos he makes it easy to follow along. I rooted fiollowing his steps with no problem.my phone is faster has more abilities has better battery can tether backup make nandroids for safe keeping. Just as said above read and research before jumping. You won't be sorry you did.
Question do I have to unroot to update to ics when its finally released?
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Ok first off the answer is no if you do it with sfhubs method and secondly before any of you guys start messing with your phones do some research. "Should I Root" has got to be one of the most repetitious threads in here. A little research of the thoughts of others asking the same question would be a great start to your Android adventure.
Honestly, this is a great place but it does take up some of your time and brain power. Asking others about what to do with your personal device is a lill off center to me but its ok as long as if you destroy your own personal device you dont go blaming others.
Like mentioned QBKing has plenty of videos and please Please please read the stickys in all sections. I may sound crazy but too me if you have to ask this question about rooting your not ready. Its not for the faint of heart...
Side note - If you learn anything in here is that the upgrade for ICS will be here long before or minutes after its official. Never understood why people unroot to get an update to root again... Is it just me? *scratches head*
playya said:
Side note - If you learn anything in here is that the upgrade for ICS will be here long before or minutes after its official. Never understood why people unroot to get an update to root again... Is it just me? *scratches head*
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I really don't care that you can't understand. I want the official release. I don't want to use roms that have minor issues or have none working features. Yet anyway. I'd rather be safe. Now as for my question. I did a search an I get conflicting results. One says updating ota with root doesn't matter. Second one is you can update with root but you wont be able to root after.
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If you have to ask, NO.
Haha that Sprint guy at the counter sounds like me, custom rom on my E4GT while showing customers my phone. I love it when some ask "wow did ice cream sandwich come out? Can I update to that??" By all means rooting and roming your phone is not for everyone, but I say go for it. Don't expect everything to work perfectly, you need to understand there will be bugs and glitches every now and then and that's why this is my hobby. Always something to do
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I really don't care that you can't understand. I want the official release. I don't want to use roms that have minor issues or have none working features. Yet anyway. I'd rather be safe. Now as for my question. I did a search an I get conflicting results. One says updating ota with root doesn't matter. Second one is you can update with root but you wont be able to root after.
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Hahahaha... ahhh you don't care hahahaha ok but buddy if you really did your research like you said you would know that.... Ya know what just go to sfhubs threads and do a little reading and you will find your answer which I answered already.
My bad this place is about helping others who need helps so here you go..You do know that sfhubs tars are rooted stock with NO I repeat NO changes... I have already answered that I believe but I guess you were stuck on something else I said.... Hahahahahaha
here it is below from sfhubs thread here
The ONLY change was the addition of ROOT to the ROM. NOTHING else was changed. If you made no other changes, you WOULD be able to install an OTA patch update (based off of EL29) on top of this w/o issues.
root, unroot to root again?
Playya Out!
it is definitely worth it, and if you plan not to root it, you should just give it to someone more deserving and get the iphone. i had the same question a few weeks ago and after much reading and a little bravery, ive grown to trust myself highly with some of these processes. really rooting isnt even what youre after for the good stuff, its just a prerequisite. i recommend reading a lot though. and like others said, qbking77 is your guiding angel lol
Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?
droidgalaxy said:
Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?
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The next step is to never call it a Droid again, this isn't Verizon.
Find a gingerbread ROM and read carefully.
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droidgalaxy said:
Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?
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I would suggest going to the Dev thread and read about the different ROM's out there. Another suggestion is to look at QBKings library of videos and reviews. But yes... Read ALL the fine print so you don't brick the phone. Good luck!
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First step is Why did you Root?
Second step is, what do you want to change?
Stay stock unless there is something you are looking for.
Bielinsk said:
First step is Why did you Root?
Second step is, what do you want to change?
Stay stock unless there is something you are looking for.
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Why on earth would you want to stay stock? Go for some ics! All the ics roms are pretty kick ass!
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First thing to do after rooting. Install adblockers. Next remove Sprint bloatware. Take it slow and read a lot and you will soon become addicted to your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27294056
A sfhub one click might be a good first rom .
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READ READ READ and learn all the basics before you do ANYTHING else...learn the meaning of rom, kernel, modem, cwm, themes, apps...with Samsung you need to understand the difference between touchwiz based roms and (the other platforms). You also need to understand that gingerbread based roms are built on final full supported stock operating systems and ice cream sandwich roms are currently built from leaked and not final versions so I agree with a previous poster to cut your teeth on GB first.
I would first return to the General section and read Venum's "What is ClockwordMod and how to use it..." so that the very next thing you learn to do is a "nandroid" backup. If you have installed the optional SD card card, you need to pay attention to where your back ups are stored and in general how to navigate your file system in terms of what folders are on the built in "internal" SD vs "external". Always do a nandroid backup, but I also recommend you install and pay for Titanium Backup Pro and yes I said pay (and learn how to use it). You will read a lot of differing opinions on XDA about Titanium Backup, but it has served me well.
This is only my second post to XDA even though I stumbled across the world of rooting, custom roms, etc. almost a year ago when I began hearing rumblings of Sprint offering the iPhone. I had unresolved bluetooth issues and thought I'd try one more time to search the Internet to find a solution before I gave up on my Epic (which I loved but the bt problem was annoying enough to switch platforms) and that's how I first learned about root access.
The reason this is only my second post in almost a year is because I have never needed to ask a question because I SEARCH AND READ for multiple answers to the same question before I make a move. I always watch qbking77's videos and I NEVER take shortcuts.
So yeah I'm a committed android/google/win7 person...I own an iPad that I bought for my 80yo mother who just wasn't into it and I didn't know I only had 14 days to return it. I use it some but I just don't get these apple people and what all the fuss is about.
Hello everyone reading this, I have never rooted any of the phones that I have had, and i have looked into it before but had lost interest in doing so to the Samsung GS3 i had. After having this G3 for a month or two I'm wanting root it, but all I know is the basic "here this is how to root it". So I think what I'm looking for is recommendations on things to do once i have it rooted. So far I haven't rooted yet, and I'm thinking on using towelroot from what i have read so far.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
I would definitely recommend using towelroot. Then get a bumped recovery on it so you can flash a rom such as cloudyg3. It'll give you some options you wouldn't normally have and remove carrier specific apps and garbage like that. That's a good place to start.
Alright, I'm going to have look into that, because I am completely clueless on that, like I said above I've really only gotten a mild grasp of rooting
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The best way to understand, I believe, is to read, read, read. There's a ton of information here. Read, and if you don't understand something ask specific questions and people will be happy to help.
Thanks for that, and from my current guess a recovery is like a firmware load, and a bumped recovery is an updated so say to the next OS release. And ROMs I want to say are like themes. Though I think I may be wrong on that one
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I rooted my Galaxy S3 about 6 months ago, and I did a lot of reading before doing it. The problem with everyone's advice to read is a lot of times, you don't know what you don't know. How much is enough reading and prep? A lot of what I learned, I learned through trial and error, and there was always great advice here if I needed help out of a particular spot.
Just make sure you have a nandroid backup and never ever flash a rom unless you're certain it's built for your specific device and carrier.
I hit a few bumps along the way, but rooting has been great, and I can't imagine not being rooted again. I'm planning on getting the Sprint G3 in about 3 weeks, and I'm gulping up all the information I can to ensure that I'll be able to root and flash roms. Good luck!