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Migrating to a new (bigger) SD Card

I know this must sound like a super-noob question, but there's a simple reason for that : it is from one.
I have run out of space on my 8 GB card so I am thinking of upgrading to a bigger card. Here are my questions:
1) If App2SD+ is there on the ROM, does the phone ask you where to install the app or it goes automagically into EXT partition?
2) I want to make a bigger partition in a bigger card and will do it via ROM Manager. Do I just copy the contents of the older card and paste it onto newer and everything will work fine?
Please answer, my life depends on it.

talhamid said:
I know this must sound like a super-noob question, but there's a simple reason for that : it is from one.
I have run out of space on my 8 GB card so I am thinking of upgrading to a bigger card. Here are my questions:
1) If App2SD+ is there on the ROM, does the phone ask you where to install the app or it goes automagically into EXT partition?
2) I want to make a bigger partition in a bigger card and will do it via ROM Manager. Do I just copy the contents of the older card and paste it onto newer and everything will work fine?
Please answer, my life depends on it.
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I just upgraded from 8 to 16 myself. 1 : automatically, 2: yes that worked for me
best thing is to pre partition the card before putting it in your phone, do a nandroid backup with your old card in, put the new one in and restore, if im not mistaken this deals with the ext partition files and then just copy all the files onto the fat32 partition from your old card

not worked for me ,I was copy to PC old cadr,have nandroid but I have A2SD+ ext part
& problems ..stock with HTC white logo ,after that I make full wipe/factory reset
& after that instal the LeeDroid rom /put again ROM manager & make ext 3 partition/
after that Titanium backup & Desire functionality was back again

hi there i have auraxtsense rom and and i have an old sd card with app2sd i bought a new card for my desire 8gb class6, and my phone stuck on htc logo screen when i put new card inside

As said above you must re-partition your new card first!
I have just done this yesterday so this is what I did:
1. Nandroid backup
2. Create EXT partition on new card with G-parted Live
3. Copy contents of old SD card to the new one (just the FAT partition visible in windows etc)
4. Put the new SD card in the phone and boot into recovery
5. Restore nandroid backup (copies all the apps back onto the EXT partition)
6. Reboot!
I can't see how you could have any problems by doing what I did. The phone will not have any problems as all the old files are exactly as they were.
Phil

how to create ext partition with gparted?

You must first resize the FAT partition and then create a new EXT partition in the newly created space.
This may be helpful as there are some pictures:
http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
Hope that helps.
Phil

philje123 said:
As said above you must re-partition your new card first!
I have just done this yesterday so this is what I did:
1. Nandroid backup
2. Create EXT partition on new card with G-parted Live
3. Copy contents of old SD card to the new one (just the FAT partition visible in windows etc)
4. Put the new SD card in the phone and boot into recovery
5. Restore nandroid backup (copies all the apps back onto the EXT partition)
6. Reboot!
I can't see how you could have any problems by doing what I did. The phone will not have any problems as all the old files are exactly as they were.
Phil
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So the Nandroid backup is not saved on to the SD Card?
EDIT: Ignore this. Wanted to know if it was on the FAT or ext3. I'm guessing on the FAT so nandroid backups would be included in the transfer.
What is the best tool for copy the entire contents of a memory card? I know Windows is a bit funny, stops the whole process if it finds an error, for example

Yes if you copy the files over before the nandroid then the nandroid backup is included.
TBH I just used windows to copy them all and had no problems.
Phil

One question - can the ext partitions have different sizes when restoring with nandroid?
Example - I have 1 GB ext on old card and now I'd like to have 2 GB?

KotDroid said:
One question - can the ext partitions have different sizes when restoring with nandroid?
Example - I have 1 GB ext on old card and now I'd like to have 2 GB?
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Don't go larger then 1.5GB on a ext partition. Nandroid restore doesn't mind if the partition size changed, until the restored size is smaller then the new capacity.

KotDroid said:
One question - can the ext partitions have different sizes when restoring with nandroid?
Example - I have 1 GB ext on old card and now I'd like to have 2 GB?
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You sure can, I just did it today, old ext2 w/ 512MB on 2GB card, now 2GB ext3 on 8GB card. Working just fine

mistake37 said:
You sure can, I just did it today, old ext2 w/ 512MB on 2GB card, now 2GB ext3 on 8GB card. Working just fine
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I didn't say you can't, I stated that it's not recommended by the community to go more then 1.5GB. It was in all a2sd how-to's I've seen, has to be something about errors with the Market and app installing.

From what I understand the only advantages to APP2SD+ is that you can plug you can mount your card via USB and use your apps, and widgets can be installed on the SD.
Source
This doesn't seem worth it for all the work reformatting another partition. If your card is upgraded to a bigger size why not use the normal method of installing apps on your SD? Why bother to partition with Ext+ as well?

dimeotane said:
Why bother to partition with Ext+ as well?
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Hmm, because it is what custom ROM requires?

thed0g said:
I didn't say you can't, I stated that it's not recommended by the community to go more then 1.5GB. It was in all a2sd how-to's I've seen, has to be something about errors with the Market and app installing.
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It's actually bigger than 2gb
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thed0g said:
I didn't say you can't, I stated that it's not recommended by the community to go more then 1.5GB. It was in all a2sd how-to's I've seen, has to be something about errors with the Market and app installing.
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I didn't quote your post

Too many a2sd a2sd+ app2sd, really confused...

I'm really confused, first with all the different a2sd variants and ones that are made by Darktremor or other people or the FroYo version. This is as much as I know for this app.
Secondly, I really couldn't find any information on doing partitions manually or setting ALL partitions to ext since I have a linux box, I really don't care to use windows to copy over files or whatever. I have a VMware box to do that on my windows machine anyways.
Third, the ClockworkMod recovery has NO options to do the partition following Darktremor's faq, and I don't know if I should install another recovery after flashing my hboot to 0.93 S-OFF (Alpha)
Mind you I only had my android for about 6 days and this is my first one, so learning curve is hard.
Please help

1) the names can be confusing but old apps2sd is an ext partition on your SD card that appears to the system as internal storage. Froyo apps2sd is using Froyo to transfer mapps to the fat32 partition (normal partition) of your SD card. You just need to use context because people tend to use apps2sd for both.
2) you can use gepart to partition. You need a fat32 partition for apps to write to and for any personal data because Android looks to that partition for that kind of data. I have my SD card as 5 gb fat32 and 3 gb ext3. Fat32 goes first.
3) go to ROM manager. Partition SD card. Choose size....there is only 3 sizes though.
If anything I wrote is wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but since this is related to a2sd in general I might as well ask it here. What's the effect of having a2sd+ on your battery? Would it lower battery life due to cache and apps being stored mainly on SD instead of internal memory? I observed that this was often the case when I store always-on apps on SD back on my old Windows device.

So no way of not using a fat32 eh?
It still seems I don't have much space left after using the Rom manager way. I have 120meg free on internal mem.
Could I just format using linux mkfs? I want to make the apps partition about 2GB to hold more apps. Though it seems some widgets can't take putting on SD card, it dissipates.

BriEE said:
So no way of not using a fat32 eh?
It still seems I don't have much space left after using the Rom manager way. I have 120meg free on internal mem.
Could I just format using linux mkfs? I want to make the apps partition about 2GB to hold more apps. Though it seems some widgets can't take putting on SD card, it dissipates.
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Widgets must be installed on internal storage, or they wont work.

If you want an easy method to make a ext 3 partition use ROM manager premium from the Market. It will make you automatically an ext3 partition with a maximum of 512 mb which is enough (put swap to 0). Just keep in mind that first inside ROM Manager you need to select the option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, and after that go to the SD partition option otherwise it wont work. And also remember you need to have the PREMIUM version otherwise it might not work
Now if you want to have more than a 512 mb you can use gparted. It is a livecd which means that can work on linux, mac or windows just reboot with the cd inside and is quite straightforward to use. Hope this helps.

Hello guys, any thought about that issue maybe?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816098

sd-ext full, cant install on internall memory

I have a problem, and i cant manage to solve him, so any help will be apriciated.
I installed Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 Special Edition Stable Version
Problem is that every new app that i install goes diractly to the sd-ext. The partition of sd ext is 512, but after installing ROM it size is down to about 80 mb. So after installing few apps sd ext is full and i get an error. Meanwhille i have about 125 mb free on internal storage!
I tried su
a2sd remove, but it tells a2sd not found!
I`m really lost, tried everything for couple of days, so if anyone can help me, please do so...

This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.

But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?

vnugo said:
But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
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Sd Ext is "internal memory" - the a2sd etc scripts essentially fool the phone into thinking the sd Ext is part of the internal storage. Therefore increases the data storage for your user apps and is where they will install. This is why you have plenty of internal phone storage, but isn't anything to worry about.
Your actual problem using this Rom is that in common with other later sense Roms, parts of the Rom are also installed to the Sd Ext. This is why the sd Ext size needs to be bigger than 512MB, its filling up because its got parts of Rom plus all your user apps on it.
Sure the Rom thread will recommend what size is, needed. So do a nandroid (include sd Ext if AmonRa recovery), copy sd card contents to pc as backup, repartition using Gparted, copy sd backup back to card, nandroid restore.
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You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.

c90 said:
You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
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Can you explain it little bit to me? I`m not sure how this works.

Do you mean how the script works or what do you have to do to get the script working?
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what do i have to do to get the script working?

Do a backup (titanium, so that you can copy the backupfiles into your harddrive), and repartition the SD card. 1,5 to 2 Gb should be more than enough. Your problem is the same one I had with MIUI-XJ. Like people have said over, the problem is too little space on the partition. If you want to keep your messages and whatever else, there are apps to backup them as well. So... Yeah, 1,5-2GB of ext4 partition, than rewind.

But my sd card is already partitioned. How can i erase sd-ext, so i can partition it again?

Personaly if it was me id boot into recovery then do a backup then wipe/factory reset, wipe dalvik+cache and partition sdcard again (1gb) atleast, flash rom (install) restore backup. But thats just me
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gomcho said:
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
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Woops mist ur post sorry. But i agree
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[Q] Using Link2sd correctly

Hey People,
As the title shows I have some questions about using Link2sd correctly.
First off my phone is rooted and is using a standard VM rom with most of the bloatware already removed and apps2sd built into the rom.
I am only using a 4 gig SD card that has 2 partitions.
In Link2sd SD(/mnt/sdcard) card shows total .97GB and SD Card 2nd Part (/data/sdext2) has total 2.84GB.
I think I have them backwards, should /mnt/sdcard be the larger partition since that is the one I have access to?
And what is the difference between Linking something to the SD card and just moving it to the SD card?
From what I have gathered when something is Linked to the SD card it gets moved to the /data/sdext2.
And if you just move it to the SD card it gets moved to the /mnt/sdcard partition.
When would you choose one over the other?
Thanks

Quick study Links2SD can move any app; A2SD can only move apps written to be moved to SD [/sdcard]. I prefer to use the ext2 or ext3 [/sdext] as much as possible for apps as its a native file system [android is a linux branch after all]. The fat32 can cause longer delays at boot time imo. I believe your partition sizes to be a good choice though. Your fat32 will fill up with nandroids, downloaded roms and mods, music, documents and such before you know it
Hope that helps.
Rob
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I think your ext partition is to big for a 4gb sdcard, you may want to reduce it to 1gb or 2gb if you have plenty of apps. Let me tell you more about this link2sd, app2sd and data2sd so that you will understand better and be able to decide which is suitable for your phone.
As mentioned above, link2sd moves apps to your ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. But not only apps or the apk's, it also moves the dalvik, cache, and library files supporting the apps. The advantage of link2sd is the freedom to choose which of those you want to move. You can easily check or uncheck this options during the linking process.
Native app2sd moves apps to the fat32 partition (/sdcard). And it only moves the apk, leaving cache, dalvik and library files in the internal memory. If you have several applications moved in this manner, a certain portion of your internal memory is still being consumed.
There's also Data2Sd, it creates a link of the entire /data folder and moves everything to the ext partition. Logically speaking, your ext partition becomes your /data partition. The original data partition now becomes a useless space. The advantage of this is the size of your internal memory, which is only limited to the size of your ext partition. But there's also a disadvantage, to use app2sd you need a fast sdcard (category 6 and above is recommended) because everything is now residing on the sdcard which is normally slower than the built-in memory and may result to lagging on some applications.

I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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anhelogr said:
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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I you mean the apps linked into your old sdcard, then do this:
1. Backup all your apps using titanium backup. The backup will be stored in your /sdcard under "TitaniumBackup" folder.
2. Use a card reader to copy that folder to your new sdcard.
3. Insert your new sdcard to your phone, then download and reinstall titanium backup.
It will automatically scan for backup up files in your sdcard and will allow you to restore all your apps.

Ok thanks s I will try this
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Why is link2sd not finding my ext 2 particion ?
Is this because I used cwr to particion my SD card ?
I have made a 2gb ext2 with 512 swap I have linked a lot of apps to SD card but when I get the memory status I get the SD particion not detected
What can I do? The think is that the phone works fine
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?

AceRoom said:
2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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Well the problem is this when I open the link2sd a windows pops up and tells me to choose
Ext2 ext 3 ext 4 fat 32 if I choose ext 2 it say that it can't found the ext2 and I have to do a restart then it finds the ext2 and tells me to restart again if I do not turn the phone off there is no problem but if I turn the phone off at night I have to do this again:banghead: in order for the link2sd to find the ext2 partition if I go to link2sd settings storage use the 2end partition is not available only if I do 2 restarts
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.

AceRoom said:
Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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anhelogr said:
No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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Rom Wildchild v1.1
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,

Tigger31337 said:
I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I though the same that the problem is the partition method I use I will try the mini tool
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I found the problem I was selecting ext2 for link2sd but when I use mini tool it said ext3 so I load up again the card start link2sd ext3 reboot and vouala all ok know I really enjoy my phone
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Partition

Can anyone help me in partitioning a 16gb class 10 micro SD card for the stock rom on this lovely optimus v?

What are you having trouble with?
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I have no Idea what I'm doing I go to recovery and press partition card and pick 1 or 2gb and it doesn't affect the phone. I need more memory so I can have more apps and also in low memory I can't get texts so its kind of a necessity. I'd like if possible a walkthrough in simplest terms and if possible avoiding adb cause it confuses me
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The easiest thing is to put the card in a computer, copy anything off of it onto a folder on the computer, then use a partition editor program on your computer.
If you can get to that point try a program such as gparted to partition the sd card. 1-2 gb in ext2 or ext4 format and the 2nd partition will be the remaining space in fat32 format.
If you Google something like "partition sdext android"someone may have a tutorial with pictures. I'd just find instructions that are the easiest to understand.
You are on the right track though. As you've found out partition creator in clockwork recovery doesn't work well.
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sneakysnake16 said:
I have no Idea what I'm doing I go to recovery and press partition card and pick 1 or 2gb and it doesn't affect the phone. I need more memory so I can have more apps and also in low memory I can't get texts so its kind of a necessity. I'd like if possible a walkthrough in simplest terms and if possible avoiding adb cause it confuses me
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use cannibal recovery... i know it works...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/op...-touch-v2-0-2-latest-update-08-13-2012-a.html

clodfelterac said:
use cannibal recovery... i know it works...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/op...-touch-v2-0-2-latest-update-08-13-2012-a.html
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just curious- what filesystem does it format to?

Uh, no recovery will fix "it does not do anything" "problem". You need to actually install/flash some sort of a2sd script so that the partition is used (unless the ROM already includes that functionality). Like, S2E, Link2SD, data2sd, move to sd-ext or whatever.

If you are planning to use Link2SD then go here: http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/364833-link2sd-you-tutorial.html
This will explain how to partition your uSD card with "Mini Tool Partitioning Wizard" and how to use Link2SD.
I have over 120 apps downloaded and installed and still have over 80MB of space on the system thanks to Link2SD.
I partitioned the uSD card with the Xionia recovery (2GB), then just reformatted it to FAT32 with Mini Tool Partitioning Wizard. This is the easiest way to partition the uSD card, it's fool proof. If you already tried to partition you might want to check it out with Mini Tool .. first to see what your uSD card looks like now.
All recovery's format the partition to ext.3 which is not usable on every ROM. FAT32 can be used with every ROM except ICS
Keep in mind not every app should be moved and linked. Widget apps, Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, etc.
If an app doesn't work properly while it's linked, just remove the link and move it back to the system.
Mini Tool Partitioning Wizard can be found over at Cnet