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[Q] Does HTC Desire HD worth buying?

Hello guys,
I was just wondering does htc desire hd worth buying???? I have doubts about it.
I don't want to buy something that will make me feel sorry later on!!!

metallic.steel said:
Hello guys,
I was just wondering does htc desire hd worth buying???? I have doubts about it.
I don't want to buy something that will make me feel sorry later on!!!
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List your priorities and peeves of what you want/need (or not) from a phone.
For starters, if you want battery life of more than 2 days, DHD is a no go, but so will many other 4" screened phones be.

If you like android OS, then Desire HD is the best for you. Of course, it's still depend on what you want and what you need, but i can say that Desire HD will satisfy all of them.
compare to Galaxy S which using android OS too:
- larger screen (4.3" to 4") but Galaxy S has Super AMOLED screen, Desire HD has Super LCD screen. My point of view, galaxy S has weird color, everything seem to be overcontrast and green, Desire HD screen looks good at straight direction but when you changed your direction, the color changed too (look like contrast drop down miserably)
- dual flash led with 8M pixels camera
- HTC sense, auto fit, smart dial ... which Galaxy S doesn't have
- .... many more points but i don't remember now.
Compare to iP4
- larger screen but it's just that, Desire HD totally lost at display compare to iP4
- iP4 is more smooth than Desire HD when scrolling
- ... no more, i'm just using iP4 for few hours cause it's not mine

its the most powerfull device on the market at the moment....... what on earth could make you feel sorry about it??

cupid412 said:
- iP4 is more smooth than Desire HD when scrolling
- ... no more, i'm just using iP4 for few hours cause it's not mine
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Have you tried to scroll pages like Engadget? If you do I slowly its fine but try to do it extremely fast and iPhone won't manage to render the page in time.
Same goes for wide text. Android will fit it to the amount of zoom you have at the moment. On iPhone its non existing.
Remove those 2 options from android and web scrolling will be as smooth as on the iphone
And to answer authors question.
It's totally worth it. I can get 2 days of moderate use phone is extremely fast. Although I have some issues but I don't know if it's handset it self or some applications...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I asked same question before I bought it, and now that I've had it for some weeks I can say that it was totally worth it. Sure its expensive but I came from a old phone which was pissing me of and really only upgraded to get rid of those annoyances, but also get the best at the same time.
I've never had a phone which everytime I used it that made me say wow.

I've had this phone since soon after launch and it's the best phone I've ever used. Sure you have to charge it every night but that's standard for smart phones in general.
I do have one regret though - because I had to have it at launch when supplies were low I paid way too much for it.
Other than that it's been great.
Someone swyped my idea.

its definetly worth it. although mine didnt cost anything
DN41

YES it is definitely worth buying. I used to be an avid NOKIA phone user, and beside it, I also use PDA's. My last PDA was a HTC Artemis (NM8) and my last nokia phone is X6. On top of those, I use a netbook at night when I'm in bed, I also have a Tomtom because the Nokia navigation is cumbersome to use and unreliable.
Last week I bought a DHD - and it does everything I wanted to do - brilliantly.
So my answer to your question again is a definite YES!!!

i am going to buy either galaxy s ( captivate ）or htc desire HD. .
my main concern is battery.. .
can it last from 8 am to 8 pm with normal use.. ( with internet and games )
or do i need to carry extra batttery or charger with me along )
and some one said that camera lens pops out, which can cause it to scratch . how serious is that ?
and how is battery cover.. some one said its too cheap and floppy ..

it'll defintely last for 12 hours, even with high usage.
the battery cover is just fine..yeah its not that nice compared to the alubody, but mine fits in and is not floppy.
scratches..mh..no problems here...
DN41

Battery life can last 12 hours with average use, if you do a lot of gaming you will drain any smartphone battery in a matter of hours. I used it moderately throughout the day, browsing, some games, music, xda etc and got 14hours use before 10% warning. It's my first smartphone and don't regret it at all, love the big screen and build quality oh and Android.
My cam lens is fine so maybe that's more uncommon than it seems.
It's tough choosing but I doubt you will regret it.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Some questions about DHD before ill buy it

Hey everyone,
My first post here .
So im planning to buy HTC Desire HD, but i heard that it has some issues with proximity sensor. But there was update which should have fixed that issue, and as i readed for most people that update fixed issue, but for some it didnt. So im asking is this really fixed for everyone? Also how about screen? I contacted HTC and they said it has 16million colors and its S-lcd, but i saw some video clips in which people complained that screen look kinda washed out. also it has same resolution as the desire or desire z, so perhaps on Desire hd screen is pixelated (bigger screen) or when you view web page in very small font, instead of clear symbols i would see just black dots (because the resolution is not that big?). Also i heard complaints about poor battery life, but some people say that its because you use network intense apps like skype in background. Well i dont use any social stuff (facebook, twitter) or skype (i use it only on my pc), so the battery life should be good right? I would be happy if it would last at least 1 day. About the build quality i heard that battery cover and sim card cover doesnt get perfectly fitted in its positions, is this true? So far ive been thinking at first to buy htc desire, but now when desire hd price lowered, and since i heard that desire hd has less problems than original desire im thinking on buying one. I also thinked perhaps nexus s? but its price is bigger and it has less RAM, also it has super amoled (amoled is a minus, really). So far for now Desire hd looks like the best choice to me, currently im owning Samsung s5230 star.
Cheers

Its suprising that nobody did answer
By the way i have few other questions to add. How well does the phone sits on a hand? i mean can you touch all edges of the screen without using another hand? Also, i heard that HTC desire had lots of problems with random rebooting and overheating, but how about desire hd? does it still have those problems?
thanks again for answers

Nece228 said:
Its suprising that nobody did answer
By the way i have few other questions to add. How well does the phone sits on a hand? i mean can you touch all edges of the screen without using another hand? Also, i heard that HTC desire had lots of problems with random rebooting and overheating, but how about desire hd? does it still have those problems?
thanks again for answers
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ive never had a problem with the sensor, screen acts well during calls the screen is big, but just about fully useable with one hand, the pvt1 & 2 desires had faulty mainboards, thats where the random reboot problem came from, the DHD dosent have this problem

If you would of done some research you could find all the answers already.
I have no issue with the proximity sensor but if you can test it out before buying and make sure it works properly then you have nothing to worry about.
Screen is really really good. When you view the phone on about a 45degree angle it does become a little washed out but why would you view it on a angle. I much prefer a S-LCD then AMOLED or those other newer screens since I feel they don't look very natural at all, they provide better black for sure but everything else looks very saturated with a weird tint. For me the phone fits great in my hand and I can use it with just one hand.
Battery is good for a smartphone with such a huge screen, you can easily get 2 days with little use. I also don't use facebook and that other crap so I find battery life just great. Playing games non stop the battery lasts about 6 - 8 hours, depending on the game.
I find build quality excellent. I too heard complaints like you've mentioned but I find everything fits perfectly and very easy to remove and put back on.
I would very much recommend this phone, you simply can't go wrong. I came from a older phone so the upgrade was huge for me and I really like Android now, bye bye WinMo.

The phone is junk. I'd recommend a Nokia N91 over this crap. I've heard that phone even has a hard drive.
Obviously I'm lying. Best phone ever. Mostly you will find that the unsatisfied buyers are more vocal than the happy ones.
It's not too big unless you have tiny hands, screen is beautiful, chances of getting a faulty one are small.
I charge every night but I could get 48 hours if I am conservative with usage.
Someone swyped my idea.

AndroHero said:
ive never had a problem with the sensor, screen acts well during calls the screen is big, but just about fully useable with one hand, the pvt1 & 2 desires had faulty mainboards, thats where the random reboot problem came from, the DHD dosent have this problem
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thanks for info. what do you mean pvt1 and 2 have that rebooting problem? so if i buy now htc desire i will not get this overheating and random rebooting issue?
@ErOr22 Thanks. ive already done lots of research and as i said for some people update fixes issue for some not. in fact all those posts where like posted in october, perhaps the newest line of desire hd does no longer have that problem. Well i also heard that htc desire hd has not as good viewing angles as original desire with s-lcd. But when you look at different angles to the screen does the washout effect is big or almost unsignificant? I currently own samsung s5230 a cheap touchscreen phone, but its screen is good imo, viewing angles are brilliant, so i wouldnt like to buy expensive phone with worse screen that the cheap phone.
@dr.m0x Thanks. i do also see that many people complain about this phone and many others. thats why i want to hear opinions from a little more optimistic people

Nece228 said:
thanks for info. what do you mean pvt1 and 2 have that rebooting problem? so if i buy now htc desire i will not get this overheating and random rebooting issue?
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they are diffrent hardware revisions, but that was on the desire, the desire hd has never had this problem

i'm really satisfied with DHD, colors look brillant, screen size is the one i wanted and battery capacity is still on try,, but i use wifi 24h and social stuff. I've not encountered any problem on cover slot, it was the first thing i've checked and it fits well.

But when you look at different angles to the screen does the washout effect is big or almost insignificant?
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On a 45 degree angle the washout effect is pretty small, its noticeable but nothing to really cry about, I would say my i900 Omnia had a better viewing angle but not by much. I wouldn't really concern too much about it, just go to some shop and have a play and see for yourself.

Hi everyone, I m also a potential Android owner and was rocking back and forth between the Desire and the DHD. (since I dont like a iPhone copy like Galaxy S)
I've been doing my research in the background since a while and seeing this thread i thought of doing this post.
The main reason I was considering Desire over DHD was the battery life problem, in fact I was about to order my desire a while back but changed my mind and thought of doing more research. All I really need to know is how the battery perform in DHD COMPARED to the original Desire. (because every other aspect about the Desire perfectly suits my needs.) Like the @nece228 i really dont care fb twitter etc syncing all the time, even I am happy with the manually pressing the refresh button on the widget whenever i feel like checking for an update.
What I do plan to do with it is mostly try apps, rooting, hacking, play games (show off the capabilities of Adreno 205 to my friends) watch videos, take a snap and some HD footage, and of course the basic functions of a phone, texting, calling and some browsing.
I really want it to last solid 24 hrs with moderate usage because I dont have anywhere to charge it up during the day.
Would someone having experience from both worlds give an opinion about the DHD battery life COMPARED to Desire? It will make my decision about DHD or original Desire.
PS: I ve seen the huge support and userbase behind the Desire (6000+threads vs 1000+ in DHD forum) will there be that kind of community building around DHD too? (given the same time of existence) And this phone will be my first Android experience too. Looking forward to make a good choice of a phone in the first attempt)

@AndroHero, so you mean that those two revisions of motherboards had that problem? So as of now if ill buy the latest revision of motherboard i wont get those problems with overheating and random rebooting right? If so, then perhaps i should reconsider, and buy original desire, because that was the biggest problem why i didnt want to buy that phone. Also the problem is multitouch, i would usually ignore that because i dont play games (only they require proper multitouch), but since new google earth came with those cool multitouch gestures i saw a video in youtube in which those gestures doesnt work that smoothly, because of those multitouch issues. But this isnt that big problem, the only serious problem is overheating and random rebooting, which i really dont want to see.
@Spaghetti-XRY, thanks for informing me.
@ErOR22, well in the video which shows desire and desire screen comparisons (both s-lcd) desire screen has better angles and no washout effect. but i guess ill go to shop and compare those two devices by myself.
@XartzMAX, i think i can help you. well actually if you count mathematically how much different is 1230 miliamper and 1400 miliamper battery math shows that you gain only about ten minutes of usage, so thats definitely not a problem. as i know all android devices has more or less same battery life. Actually in all what you want both devices will perform well except on gaming. The original desire's gpu is twice times slower than desire hd, so in original desire you wont be able to play newest games smoothly. So i would recommend you desire hd, it has much faster gpu, even latest games are smooth, also this will affect movie playback performance and since bigger screen is better for movies and games i would recommend you desire hd.

XartzMAX said:
Hi everyone, I m also a potential Android owner and was rocking back and forth between the Desire and the DHD. (since I dont like a iPhone copy like Galaxy S)
I've been doing my research in the background since a while and seeing this thread i thought of doing this post.
The main reason I was considering Desire over DHD was the battery life problem, in fact I was about to order my desire a while back but changed my mind and thought of doing more research. All I really need to know is how the battery perform in DHD COMPARED to the original Desire. (because every other aspect about the Desire perfectly suits my needs.) Like the @nece228 i really dont care fb twitter etc syncing all the time, even I am happy with the manually pressing the refresh button on the widget whenever i feel like checking for an update.
What I do plan to do with it is mostly try apps, rooting, hacking, play games (show off the capabilities of Adreno 205 to my friends) watch videos, take a snap and some HD footage, and of course the basic functions of a phone, texting, calling and some browsing.
I really want it to last solid 24 hrs with moderate usage because I dont have anywhere to charge it up during the day.
Would someone having experience from both worlds give an opinion about the DHD battery life COMPARED to Desire? It will make my decision about DHD or original Desire.
PS: I ve seen the huge support and userbase behind the Desire (6000+threads vs 1000+ in DHD forum) will there be that kind of community building around DHD too? (given the same time of existence) And this phone will be my first Android experience too. Looking forward to make a good choice of a phone in the first attempt)
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I think desire HD is far better as I'm having both phones. DHD battery last longer than desire atm
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

What everyone said.
As for battery life, you have to give it a few recharges before you can really see how much it can hold, also there's some info on some sort of battery calibration that is supposed to double your battery life but I haven't tried that.
I keep Gmail chat, SKYPE and a bunch of other online stuff on ALL DAY because of work, plus have it turned on (the screen) a lot of the time, for work, playing intensive 3D games / or not and showing off to iPhone users . It has no problem to get me through a full day until I get home and plug it in.

I have owned an HTC before but switched to an iPhone 3G which I had for 3 years, did loads of research before buying this phone and when I got it all I can say is AMAZING this is the best phone I have ever owned.
Cons: Big phone means one handed operation s difficult but that's something of a trade off for having a big screen.
Pros: camera and video is brilliant, internet is faster than my old 3G and I kept the same SIM card, phone is super fast, never seen a phone boot up so quick. Web browsing made acceptable due to big screen.
I've had this phone since Christmas and I still have only scratched the surface of what it is capable of doing.
AWESOME

[Q]Upgrade time...This, SGSII or the Sensation XE?

Hey guys,
Long time (part-time/occasional) lurker and first time poster here.
Currently, I'm coming from an iPhone 4 with a broken home button, but luckily for me my contract ended as well, so it's time for me to get a new phone. The things I really liked about the iPhone 4 were the graphical quality, the slightly heavier weight, solid built quality, and the longer battery life.
Recently, I've turned into quite a musical appreciator. This made me go with the Sensation XE because I didn't really like having a dedicated hardware "home" button like on the SGSII. I've used a friends SGSII for a while he was abroad, and while it was fun to finally come back to Android after the G1 Fiasco, it did feel a lot less snappy than the videos I've seen, regardless of the fact that I got the phone completely factory restored (he did it, not me). Also the home button really made an annoying clicking sound and the device felt kind of cheap overall. Seeing as my past experience with home buttons, I would rather avoid a phone with a dedicated home button. I have used this phone for 2 weeks, so near the end of it I knew how to handle the phone quite nicely.
So then there was the Sensation XE. According to many, the YourBeats with the additional Beats profile on the XE make a great listening experience, and I must admit it is. I have yet to meet another phone capable of producing clear low and high ranges like the XE. However, I have read many reviews of people complaining about slower performance compared to the SGSII and lower battery life. Also the SA+ screen seems to work wonders for battery life even though the colors looked over-saturated to me. So far the Sense UI has proven to be not any slower, if not faster than the TouchWiz interface, and this is coming from a point where both devices are at factory settings, with the XE having a couple of apps installed. The qHD screen isn't bad either, and the text is still very readable from almost every angle, up to the point where the screen isn't really visible anymore. The colors do lose their vividness, but at that angle, I don't really expected anything else.
The XE runs with a 1.5 GHz processor compared to the Galaxy II's 1.2 GHz and the Nexus' 1.2 GHz. Despite the 300MHz more, I don't think it really affects performance that much compared to extra RAM or a better GPU. So I'll disregard that "Major Feature" of the XE.
Now here's my question:
Currently I'm in the possession of the HTX Sensation XE and still have 13 days left to decide if I want to keep this phone or trade it for a SGSII or a voucher for when the SGN releases which will ensure me a SGN on release date (Additional fees ofcourse, but nothing too high)
With more and more details being revealed on the SGN, and almost all specifications known right now, what would be the better choice?
To try and help myself decide, I've tried to make up some short lists regarding each device, and tried to list the Pro's and Cons:
Samsung Galaxy SII​Pro's
Super Amoled+ Screen
Greater battery life than the Sensation XE
Eligible for an ICS Upgrade near Janaury (?)
Has been labeled best Smartphone/Superphone of the Year (2011)
Roughly 3.7k Quadrant score
1024 MB of RAM
Cons
TouchWiz interface felt sluggish even at factory reset
Plastic frame felt cheap
Hardware based home button (Felt cheap as well)
6 Months old device
Lower resolution
HTC Sensation XE​Pro's
HTC Sense Interface
Beats by Dre technology and earphones
Slightly heavier and sturdier frame feels great
Red accents on the XE make it look really stylish
Solely touch buttons for Home, Menu, Back and Search
Higher resolution than SGSII
5GB Cloud Storage, thanks to HTC's partnership with Dropbox
Eligible for an Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade
[Cons]
Quadrant score of roughly 2.4k
Lower battery life
Original Sensation often had dust under its screen (Nothing so far, seems to be solved on the XE version?)
No real improvements over the original Sensation which is also an aged device
768 MB of RAM
qHD screen has a lower resolution compared to the SA screen of the SGN
Samsung Galaxy Nexus​Pro's
Completely Google Phone, and thus first to receive official updates
Ships with Ice Cream Sandwich
Touch buttons for Menu, Back and Home
4.65'' Display (Of which some is taken by software buttons)
32GB Variant (The Netherlands only has this version)
Really snappy according to videos
720p screen with high dpi/ppi (forgot which it was)
Really well working camera (Even though it's 5MP, People often use MP as a standard, but that's just not right)
1024 MB of RAM
Cons
I would be without a (decent working) phone for 2-3 weeks
The design of the phone does not seem more stylish than the XE
Snappyness seems to be related to ICS with its GPU acceleration, something the XE and SGSII have not been able to try out yet
Real world battery life is unknown
Some issues could easily be fixed of course, for example the TouchWiz interface, garbage it and get a proper CM7 rom but the fact is, I'm not really into flashing yet, and I'd like to get a good performer out of the box until I feel confident enough to take the step and head into the Custom ROMs.
The main things I want to use the device for is:
General stuff such as Messaging, Calling and Browsing the Web/Facebook
Heavy music use, talk about at least 2-3 hours a day
Gaming, and I'm not just talking about angry birds, I'm talking about games such as Dungeon Defenders which no device seems capable of running properly yet at max graphics (Phones that is) for extended periods of time
Watching movies while on the road or at school when there are no classes
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So there you have it, my thoughts on the current three phones which I am considering.
I only have 13 days left before I'm "stuck" with my Sensation XE, so I'm hoping for some helpful replies with reasoning behind it explaining why I should get that specific phone.
Also, I've read something about enabling tegrak to improve Quadrant scores on the XE up to 4.5k? How equally do Quadrant score represent gaming fluidity? and does anyone have any gameplay of the SGSII on Dungeon Defenders? Because I was not able to try it out myself at the time I had the SGSII in my possession, but the XE doesn't seem to be able to handle it at max graphics fluidly.
I apologise for the wall of text and would like to thank you for your time.
Regards,
Vex

If you're into music probably the sensation. I dont know if the bl has been unlocked on sensation but if it has find a better rom with better battery life. And part ofthe the reason sgs2 does well on battery is samsung took some initiative and included hardware acceleration which has been lacking on android and will continue to do so until ICS gets out in wild and more phones are released. But if you think the sensation doesnt float your boat get the nexus. The sgs2 has too many flaws for my personal use and it seems to not fit yours.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

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The main things I want to use the device for is:
General stuff such as Messaging, Calling and Browsing the Web/Facebook
Heavy music use, talk about at least 2-3 hours a day
Gaming, and I'm not just talking about angry birds, I'm talking about games such as Dungeon Defenders which no device seems capable of running properly yet at max graphics (Phones that is) for extended periods of time
Watching movies while on the road or at school when there are no classes
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So there you have it, my thoughts on the current three phones which I am considering.
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not to sound negative
but if that is really your goal, the i doubt Galaxy Nexus is your choice of phone, as it will really lack on the music & gaming department.
the games you are talking about uses huge amount of storage space, a good sized variety of music album will probably eat a good 16 GB of space, good quality recording 192 kbps or above if you want to stream to your car stereo without sounding like a music in a tuna can
you'll be better off with the SGS2 or the Sensation as a 2nd choice

As far as music goes... I've been using google music and it will work so you don't use your devices storage. It will definitely eat some data if not on wifi, but yeah its what I did when I had my nexus s
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It sounds like you like the Sensation a lot so I would recommend sticking with it. No microSD support on the GN will limit your music and games a lot.

Killer Bee said:
It sounds like you like the Sensation a lot so I would recommend sticking with it. No microSD support on the GN will limit your music and games a lot.
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that's the hard lesson i learned from the Nexus S

The sensation is definitely your best bet for music. I say go with that.
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General stuff such as Messaging, Calling and Browsing the Web/Facebook
Heavy music use, talk about at least 2-3 hours a day
Gaming, and I'm not just talking about angry birds, I'm talking about games such as Dungeon Defenders which no device seems capable of running properly yet at max graphics (Phones that is) for extended periods of time
Watching movies while on the road or at school when there are no classes
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Definitely the Galaxy Nexus based on your preferences. The only reasons to even consider the sensation are sound and build quality(the iPhone 4S beats it in both categories). If you cannot wait then get the Galaxy S II - it's perfectly smooth, fast, customizable, has all the codec support you could need, great screen, light weight, hardware accelerated browser, great CPU/GPU for gaming, great camera, above average sound quality, etc.
The Galaxy Nexus combines the best features of both.

AllGamer said:
not to sound negative
but if that is really your goal, the i doubt Galaxy Nexus is your choice of phone, as it will really lack on the music & gaming department.
the games you are talking about uses huge amount of storage space, a good sized variety of music album will probably eat a good 16 GB of space, good quality recording 192 kbps or above if you want to stream to your car stereo without sounding like a music in a tuna can
you'll be better off with the SGS2 or the Sensation as a 2nd choice
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How exactly is the Galaxy Nexus lacking in the music department?
The codec? We have yet to see if the TWL6040 is good or bad.
The storage? 32GB isn't bad for a smartphone, there are very few 64GB ones out there.

pukemon said:
If you're into music probably the sensation. I dont know if the bl has been unlocked on sensation but if it has find a better rom with better battery life. And part ofthe the reason sgs2 does well on battery is samsung took some initiative and included hardware acceleration which has been lacking on android and will continue to do so until ICS gets out in wild and more phones are released. But if you think the sensation doesnt float your boat get the nexus. The sgs2 has too many flaws for my personal use and it seems to not fit yours.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
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The music quality on the Sensation really is amazing, I can't compare it to anything else. However, it seems to be mostly thanks to the accompanied earbuds and the equalizer setting. I believe the "Beats" settings have been ported to different phones already. And the YourBeats aren't all that expensive, so even if I won't go with the Sensation, I'll end up with those earphones and a similar equalizer setting on the SGSII or the SGN.
Would the fact that Samsung uses hardware acceleration on the SGSII affect the benchmarks like Quadrant and others? If not, then that would mean that the SGSII would prove itself to be superior graphics wise and would thus perform better in a gaming environment?
The hardware home button really is a thing to be afraid of. as I've gotten quite accustomed to using the software buttons on the Sensation already, even though the home button is slightly inconveniently placed.
What other flaws are you talking about here? I'm quite curious to what you would see as flaws and see if I can relate to those.
AllGamer said:
not to sound negative
but if that is really your goal, the i doubt Galaxy Nexus is your choice of phone, as it will really lack on the music & gaming department.
the games you are talking about uses huge amount of storage space, a good sized variety of music album will probably eat a good 16 GB of space, good quality recording 192 kbps or above if you want to stream to your car stereo without sounding like a music in a tuna can
you'll be better off with the SGS2 or the Sensation as a 2nd choice
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The storage space is indeed something to ponder about, as my library currently consists out of 100+ GB, and I just cleared out some. I believe the SGS2 has 16 GB internal storage capacity which is upgradable to 32 with an SD card? or is it 16+32 on the SD card?
After careful consideration of the limitations of the SGN, I believe that due to the higher resolution which is to be rendered and the slightly underclocked GPU, the Nexus would not be really suitable for the demanding games of today such as Dungeon Defenders and the Tegra 2 games while using Chainfire(Or something like that) which would mean that the Nexus would be taken out of the equation when it comes to gaming.
lorddart said:
As far as music goes... I've been using google music and it will work so you don't use your devices storage. It will definitely eat some data if not on wifi, but yeah its what I did when I had my nexus s
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Unfortunately, my data limit per month is a mere 1GB. This pretty much leaves streaming music on the go an option which would only collect dust on my phone.
Killer Bee said:
It sounds like you like the Sensation a lot so I would recommend sticking with it. No microSD support on the GN will limit your music and games a lot.
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The Sensation is a marvelous phone by itself, but there are quite some limitations which will lead to me being frustrated in the end. Before writing this post, I had not fully experimented with the device and tried to push it to its limits. After putting it through some benchmarks, I decided that the phone was slightly underperforming gaming-wise compared to the SGSII but was still pretty capable of handling anything else I throw at it, with music being the best part of it. However, I did notice some flaws with for example multitasking which was not as fluid as I had experienced it before after using the device for a day, forcing me to install a task manager to close apps to conserve available memory. While this will also be a concern on other phones, the increased amount of RAM on both the SGSII and the SGN will make it slightly less of an annoyance.
AllGamer said:
that's the hard lesson i learned from the Nexus S
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I agree that having multiple SD cards with multiple contents is quite nice, but isn't internal memory more easily loaded into the OS? Meaning that there will be less resources used and quicker response times for those certain contents?
LordButtersI said:
The sensation is definitely your best bet for music. I say go with that.
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While music is indeed a primary concern, it is not the only thing I would base my choice on. Any more thoughts on the rest of the issues? Battery life, processing power, scree, gaming etc.
Toss3 said:
Definitely the Galaxy Nexus based on your preferences. The only reasons to even consider the sensation are sound and build quality(the iPhone 4S beats it in both categories). If you cannot wait then get the Galaxy S II - it's perfectly smooth, fast, customizable, has all the codec support you could need, great screen, light weight, hardware accelerated browser, great CPU/GPU for gaming, great camera, above average sound quality, etc.
The Galaxy Nexus combines the best features of both.
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After reading this post I would say that you're saying that I should get the SGSII haha. Also, you're pretty much concluding that the Sensation has none of the features the SGSII has, or it has, but in a less quality than the SGSII. The nexus has me worried about the screen in combination with the GPU to be honest. Much more pixels to be rendered with an effectively "weaker" GPU than the SGSII.
Thank you for all your replies, my choices are pretty much still undecided. Everyone seems to put up some point of view which sways me to one or the other.
My primary thoughts currently are:
- The SGSII already has hardware acceleration, does this affect everything, or just browsing? If it does indeed affect everything, how will ICS make any difference? And if not, will the SGSII become even more of a powerhouse with ICS?
- The Sensation currently has poor battery life, I've seen that for myself. How will ICS affect the speed while gaming and browsing and how will it increase or decrease battery life?
- The Nexus has a 720p screen with a "weaker" GPU than both of the devices. This will severely affect gaming in my owning. Which is still my 2nd favorite thing to do while on the move.

I think part of the misconception with nexus gpu is people are going to expect 720p games at least 30fps. No way in hell unless we're underestimating it. I think it will be fine at current resolutions. Now can the sgx540 scale well, we will have to wait an see. Youre placing a lot of importance on sound and then games. Youre going to have to pick your poison. The sgs2 is probably the best bet for gaming. The nexus is a ?. For sound sensation, and i think the nexus will be fine.but it too is a question mark at this point. Battery life is a question mark for all three in your situation. We dont know how well the nexus will fair. You can bet the lte version will suck.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

I wouldn't be too sure about the music qualitiy of the sensation. I read that it is just an equalizer setting for huge bass an nothing else. That's a quite nice review of it.
Review Sensation XE
If you want see the reasons of other users considering the Nexus I would recommend you to have look here:
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I wouldn't be too sure about the music qualitiy of the sensation. I read that it is just an equalizer setting for huge bass an nothing else. That's a quite nice review of it.
Review Sensation XE
If you want see the reasons of other users considering the Nexus I would recommend you to have look here:
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Exactly!
www.engadget.com/photos/beats-audio-test-results/#4515965
Those are the EQ settings for the beats app!

pukemon said:
If you're into music probably the sensation. I dont know if the bl has been unlocked on sensation but if it has find a better rom with better battery life. And part ofthe the reason sgs2 does well on battery is samsung took some initiative and included hardware acceleration which has been lacking on android and will continue to do so until ICS gets out in wild and more phones are released. But if you think the sensation doesnt float your boat get the nexus. The sgs2 has too many flaws for my personal use and it seems to not fit yours.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
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In any event, Beats is not a name associated with quality in the audiophile world. Hyped up and overpriced audio equipment.
I think we'll have to see how good the XE's audio hardware is before judging.
The DAC on the GS2 though is a big letdown - they ought to have used the Wolfson DAC again rather than the Yamaha one.

I believe it. Beats isnt anywhere on my audiophile list. Not that im a true audiophile, more a wannabe but youre definitely paying for the advertising and pockets of shareholders when you get beats. With that said, im willing to bet that the sensation is still a couple of steps up on the music hardware list. And im leaning towards the nexus being better than gs2 in the audio department. But i could be wrong on that. Though people want to think the nexus line is flagship on the hardware side, if anything it s a middle of the road phone with no frills software. Albeit great software with no carrier or manufacturer crap. Pure android distinguishes itself without any fancy skins or me too lines of code.
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pukemon said:
I believe it. Beats isnt anywhere on my audiophile list. Not that im a true audiophile, more a wannabe but youre definitely paying for the advertising and pockets of shareholders when you get beats. With that said, im willing to bet that the sensation is still a couple of steps up on the music hardware list. And im leaning towards the nexus being better than gs2 in the audio department. But i could be wrong on that. Though people want to think the nexus line is flagship on the hardware side, if anything it s a middle of the road phone with no frills software. Albeit great software with no carrier or manufacturer crap. Pure android distinguishes itself without any fancy skins or me too lines of code.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
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All of these 3 phones should get Cyanogenmod 9 once the Ice Cream source code comes out, so AOSP > Touchwiz, Sense (which I agree with) shouldn't be a concern. From my experiences, CM has been the fastest, most stable ROMs around (and I mean official CM).
Audio-wise, we know the XE's software hyped up more than actual quality. It's nothing that PowerAmp cannot replicate. It remains to be see how good this phone sounds with other high end headphones and for those who care, the phone speakers, which are believed to be the same as the Sensation.

I have no idea. Im sure beats could make a name for itslef if it pushed out some quality sound to external speakers whether theyre headphones or a x.1 setup. Im guessing you can tweak the equalizer on beats? If not then beats is a total scam, especially for bass junkies. I like my bass too, but ill take an all around bang for buck setup any day. Onkyo is a good middle of the road example. Good receiver great sound for the right price. They make some pretty ****ty speakers though. Haha.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

pukemon said:
I have no idea. Im sure beats could make a name for itslef if it pushed out some quality sound to external speakers whether theyre headphones or a x.1 setup. Im guessing you can tweak the equalizer on beats? If not then beats is a total scam, especially for bass junkies. I like my bass too, but ill take an all around bang for buck setup any day. Onkyo is a good middle of the road example. Good receiver great sound for the right price. They make some pretty ****ty speakers though. Haha.
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It's special "EQ" settings, I posted them a few post up. They work on any EQ app on a computer or phone.

In absolute terms Beats are not terrible headphones. However they are a very poor value for the money - a $400 Beats headphone is outperformed in the sound quality department often by $50 headphones. The problem is that they sound "muddy" and that the bass is so overpowering that it tends to hide the mids and highs.
For bass junkies, consider the Audio Technica Pro 700 mk2. Costs half as much as a Beats Pro and outperforms it - big time. I personally prefer a neutral pair of cans though.
@Pukemon
Yes you can tweak the equalizer on the Beats phone and there is a special profile. As I mentioned, it isn't anything too special.

Ok. That s what i figured. Yohre basically over paying for a name. I know the earphones are overpriced. My nokia - 505s probably sound better. My nokia 214s sound like ****. They're both around $50.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

[Q] Should I buy the HTC Desire Z?

I want to buy the HTC Desire Z but a few things that I read on the net are really freaking me out:
1) BATTERY LIFE: Some users say the battery lasts for less than a day, while others say they have no problem for 2 days. Now I have a ZTE Blade(which I plan to sell) that also has bad battery life, somewhat similar, so its kinda OK as long as its not really that bad.
I wont really have the Wifi turned on 24/7, coz I am a conservative user(although when I get the phone initially I'll check it out every 10 seconds... only for some days).
Can the battery life be fixed by using custom ROMs or Kernels or is it just the underpowered battery pack?
2)Keyboard Hinge: It seems that the screen falls loose when you turn the phone upside down. Some people complain of loose hinges .
I will be using the keyboard frequently.
3)LAG AND BUGS: Actually, its software related so it doesn't really matter I would probably flash a Custom ROM as soon as I get.
So should I buy this phone or not? Please tell me about the other problems in this phone...
If you say "NO", then please suggest an alternative in the same price segment!
Thanks a lot!
Regards,
jj_95nano

I've had my Desire Z since august last year.
Pros:
-great dev support with PLENTY of ROMs to choose from, you get choices between AOSP, GB Sense, GB MIUI, ICS Sense and ICS MIUI.
-good sound quality output through headphone jack
-great screen with nice viewing angles and colours.
-good battery life lasting 2 full days regularly for me under light to medium use.
-great keyboard which has a good feel to it.
-fantastic build quality, i've dropped my DZ a bit more than a handful of times and it barely has any scratches anywhere.
-the "z-hinge" is much more sturdy than it seems and it will definitely last the test of time.
-the phone is blazing fast with AOSP ROMs and can play pretty much every game right now.
-Call quality is really good when there is good reception (read below)
Cons:
-sometimes not-so fantastic performance when it comes to Sense ROMs.
-my keyboard is becoming unresponsive and requires very hard pushes to register the keys Q,W,E and more recently the space bar is having this issue too.
-i have had both wifi and cellular signal death grip issues that occur when the keyboard is out and my hands are wrapped around the device.
-With wifi, a full bar signal can drop down to half signal or less than half if you hold the device as i described.
-With cellular signal, i have very poor reception at my house where i'll get 3/4 bars at the most but a lot of the time, if i hold my phone for more than 30 seconds while the keyboard is out with my hands wrapped around it, i will end up completely losing reception. That said, this has been an issue with previous phones of mine anyway though.
-The device does get hot at times where it can make your hands sweaty but it never really gets burning hot.
-call quality is quite terrible for me at times at my house due to the bad reception that i have and the death grip issues seem to interrupt calls as well at times as i've had a drop outs during calls before.
I hope that helps a bit. Oh and about the tightness of the Z-hinge, i can hold my phone upside down with the keyboard open without it closing, it takes a little bit of practice but my hinge is quite tight and it's still as tight as it was when i bought my phone so as mentioned earlier, the hinge will definitely last the tests of time.
Overall, the pros outweigh the cons for me simply because of how much i love android, so i'd give the phone about an 8/10. If you can find it for like $250USD or less, i'd buy it if i were you, but otherwise, i would just wait for the next best qwerty slider.

magic_android said:
I've had my Desire Z since august last year.
Pros:
-great dev support with PLENTY of ROMs to choose from, you get choices between AOSP, GB Sense, GB MIUI, ICS Sense and ICS MIUI.
-good sound quality output through headphone jack
-great screen with nice viewing angles and colours.
-good battery life lasting 2 full days regularly for me under light to medium use.
-great keyboard which has a good feel to it.
-fantastic build quality, i've dropped my DZ a bit more than a handful of times and it barely has any scratches anywhere.
-the "z-hinge" is much more sturdy than it seems and it will definitely last the test of time.
-the phone is blazing fast with AOSP ROMs and can play pretty much every game right now.
-Call quality is really good when there is good reception (read below)
Cons:
-sometimes not-so fantastic performance when it comes to Sense ROMs.
-my keyboard is becoming unresponsive and requires very hard pushes to register the keys Q,W,E and more recently the space bar is having this issue too.
-i have had both wifi and cellular signal death grip issues that occur when the keyboard is out and my hands are wrapped around the device.
-With wifi, a full bar signal can drop down to half signal or less than half if you hold the device as i described.
-With cellular signal, i have very poor reception at my house where i'll get 3/4 bars at the most but a lot of the time, if i hold my phone for more than 30 seconds while the keyboard is out with my hands wrapped around it, i will end up completely losing reception. That said, this has been an issue with previous phones of mine anyway though.
-The device does get hot at times where it can make your hands sweaty but it never really gets burning hot.
-call quality is quite terrible for me at times at my house due to the bad reception that i have and the death grip issues seem to interrupt calls as well at times as i've had a drop outs during calls before.
I hope that helps a bit. Oh and about the tightness of the Z-hinge, i can hold my phone upside down with the keyboard open without it closing, it takes a little bit of practice but my hinge is quite tight and it's still as tight as it was when i bought my phone so as mentioned earlier, the hinge will definitely last the tests of time.
Overall, the pros outweigh the cons for me simply because of how much i love android, so i'd give the phone about an 8/10. If you can find it for like $250USD or less, i'd buy it if i were you, but otherwise, i would just wait for the next best qwerty slider.
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Thank you for answering!
But there are a few new problems(Call reception, bad signal) that you have just enlightened me about. But should it really matter at a place with full network strength?
But seriously, the PROS seem tooo attractive! The number of ROMS is amazing.
I guess I might just go to an E-store and check out the DZ today!
Then I'll make up my mind.
Thanks again for your helpful post.

jj_95nano said:
Thank you for answering!
But there are a few new problems(Call reception, bad signal) that you have just enlightened me about. But should it really matter at a place with full network strength?
But seriously, the PROS seem tooo attractive! The number of ROMS is amazing.
I guess I might just go to an E-store and check out the DZ today!
Then I'll make up my mind.
Thanks again for your helpful post.
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I bought my DZ a year and a half ago and i've never encountered major issues other than ROM depending ones.
I live in a french "big city" and never have signal troubles.
Sure he doesn't have incredible performances (mostly with Sense 3.x Roms) and if you want to use it while lying on your bed and holding it above you you will suffer of a loose hinge but if you can find it at a reasonable price, it's still a good deal and one of the best with an HW Keyboard.

Might be worthwhile to check out the official review thread in the General section.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

If you live somewhere with good reception and you can get the desire z at a good price, then i'd say go for it . When i have good reception, calls sound pretty much perfect. It's just that my carrier somewhat sucks haha.

magic_android said:
If you live somewhere with good reception and you can get the desire z at a good price, then i'd say go for it . When i have good reception, calls sound pretty much perfect. It's just that my carrier somewhat sucks haha.
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Thanks for replying!
My carrier sucks too, but only outside the city, but I get full signal strength with my ZTE Blade in my house. Considering that the ZTE Blade has similar network issues, I think I don't mind the bad reception issue. Things are getting positive for this phone... I couldn't go to see it today, but I'll try tomorrow!
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Might be worthwhile to check out the official review thread in the General section.
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Its great you pointed me out to that thread, it added to my knowledge about the DZ!
And I also found a ZTE Blade owner who had upgraded to DZ on that thread!
TenMaKo said:
I bought my DZ a year and a half ago and i've never encountered major issues other than ROM depending ones.
I live in a french "big city" and never have signal troubles.
Sure he doesn't have incredible performances (mostly with Sense 3.x Roms) and if you want to use it while lying on your bed and holding it above you you will suffer of a loose hinge but if you can find it at a reasonable price, it's still a good deal and one of the best with an HW Keyboard.
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Yes, HW keyboard is important as I always face issues with my existing phone when it comes to using the on-screen keyboard. Well, I'll just grin and bear the loose hinge.
Thanks to everyone on this thread. I seem to like the phone now.I just need to see it in reality to make up my mind.

it's just the keyboard issue, other than that , the phone is awesome

Very quick fix if you feel the keyboard is loose. Check the thread on the spring fix. I did both mine and my girlfriends g2s in 20min. As for reception there are more radios to pick from then on any other device I've used so chances are at least one is good in your area and this may help with battery life too. Also I get about 20 hrs give or take with most roms and I'm a heavy user. My gf still has over 80% battery when she plugs in at night as a light user. Not to mention many after market batteries to pick from.
Did a lot of research before I bought us both g2s and I could not find a better option for us as the keyboard was the hw biggest need for us
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The screen is meant to be loose, in that it allows you to flip the keyboard open and closed with almost no effort. I actually find it pretty tough to hold the phone in such a way, that it opens when upside down. Any contact with your fingers/hands on the "screen" portion of the phone will prevent it from opening accidentally. You actually have to be holding the back "half" of the phone without touching the front "half" in order for it to open while upside down. A few people have mentioned that the phone opens when they are using the phone and laying down. But I often use my Z while laying on the couch, and have never found this to be an issue. My opinion is that the hinge "issue" has been completely overblown, and don't let it negatively sway your opinion of the phone.
Battery life is obviously a very difficult thing to compare between users, as its very dependent on how you use your phone, and also reception. But with fairly moderate use, the Z will easily get you through the day, and then you charge overnight. With light usage, I can often get 2 days. On the other hand, when I'm hiking in the woods, in poor reception areas, I can kill the battery in 8 hours or less, without even using it. Forcing the phone to EDGE seems to help, as some of the battery drain seems to be from the phone constantly trying to connect to a dodgy 3G signal. Similarly, in less populated areas (but still in built up towns) I will sometimes get battery life much less than the usual 1-2 days I can get at my home and work locations. I guess the moral of the story, your mileage will certainly vary. But for average conditions, I'd say the Z has pretty good battery life for a smartphone.
All that said, the Z is a solid phone, and a great community here. But I'd be hard pressed to recommend buying one at this time. The phone is a year and a half old. The CPU and memory specs are really showing their age. And its unfortunate that flagship devices with hardware keyboards seem to be becoming an extinct species. I'd only consider this device if you really require a hardware keyboard, and can get a good price.

redpoint73 said:
The screen is meant to be loose, in that it allows you to flip the keyboard open and closed with almost no effort. I actually find it pretty tough to hold the phone in such a way, that it opens when upside down. Any contact with your fingers/hands on the "screen" portion of the phone will prevent it from opening accidentally. You actually have to be holding the back "half" of the phone without touching the front "half" in order for it to open while upside down. A few people have mentioned that the phone opens when they are using the phone and laying down. But I often use my Z while laying on the couch, and have never found this to be an issue. My opinion is that the hinge "issue" has been completely overblown, and don't let it negatively sway your opinion of the phone.
Battery life is obviously a very difficult thing to compare between users, as its very dependent on how you use your phone, and also reception. But with fairly moderate use, the Z will easily get you through the day, and then you charge overnight. With light usage, I can often get 2 days. On the other hand, when I'm hiking in the woods, in poor reception areas, I can kill the battery in 8 hours or less, without even using it. Forcing the phone to EDGE seems to help, as some of the battery drain seems to be from the phone constantly trying to connect to a dodgy 3G signal. Similarly, in less populated areas (but still in built up towns) I will sometimes get battery life much less than the usual 1-2 days I can get at my home and work locations. I guess the moral of the story, your mileage will certainly vary. But for average conditions, I'd say the Z has pretty good battery life for a smartphone.
All that said, the Z is a solid phone, and a great community here. But I'd be hard pressed to recommend buying one at this time. The phone is a year and a half old. The CPU and memory specs are really showing their age. And its unfortunate that flagship devices with hardware keyboards seem to be becoming an extinct species. I'd only consider this device if you really require a hardware keyboard, and can get a good price.
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I guess if I buy the phone, I'll have better battery life as I have my cellular plan limited to 2G so that is going to make a big difference. Anyways its not like my existing phone(ZTE Blade) has great battery life and reception, so I'm used to this.
And ay the community here is AMAZING, the number of ROMs and Radios is superb! I am no fan of OC'ing so CPU speed doesn't matter. HW keyboard is soo tempting.
Thanks a lot for all your responses... I'll search for the spring fix for the keyboard...

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Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.

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Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.
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I mostly agree with this post and his previous one.
I'm also considering buying an HTC One X.
It seems so great : Tegra3 1.5Ghz QuadCore - 1GB RAM - Screen resolution : 1280*720px, Internal Memory 32GB, Front Camera, NFC, Native ICS + Sense 4 in its full version
Compared to our DZ, that's just like WOW !!
But no hardware keyboard anymore and no real HDMI connection (you need a special cable).... for a 600€ phone.... that really pisses me off.

@ the OP, i think you should wait a couple of months until some new phones come out so that you have more choice. I'm personally HIGHLY considering getting a One X or One S if i can find the money for it as the keyboard on my phone is driving me nuts xD.

redpoint73 said:
Actually have to say that this statement is a bit backward. If you were into overclocking, that would make up a bit for the lower "stock" CPU clock speed of 800 MHz. As it is, the CPU on the Z is good enough for most tasks. But newer CPUs are pushing 1.5 GHz, and multi cores, and you can really tell the difference. My tablet is a HTC Flyer, with a 1.5 GHz CPU, and it just, well . . . flies. So much more smoother interface experience (even with Sense), smooth video playback (Rockplayer), and this is only with single core (most phones are now coming dual core, and quad core coming soon). Plus 1 GB of RAM means much less dropping of apps from memory. My Flyer acts like I wish my Z would.
Again, don't get me wrong. The Z is solid, and will still have plenty of life left, if you really need the keyboard. But its nowhere near cutting edge, and for me its time to move on. I'll likely be picking up the One X when its released.
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I don't want to contradict you, but I never overclocked my existing phone which is only 600MHz and I was pretty satisfied because I used custom ROMs. The only Overclocking that I did was to OC the GPU. But the stock 800MHz on DZ is good with custom ROMs as I saw on youtube...
Well I'm still a teen so the One X is a tad too expensive. I txt, so HW keyboard is a necessity. I have an iPod touch 4 for 1GHz . I use that for Gaming, media, etc(you obviously know)...
Yes the market is full of Dual and Quad core phones and tabs out there but I might just venture out to that segment when I'm actually looking for a good quality phone to use long-term when I'm older(Coz my parents don't think I'd handle those kinda expensive Gizmos)
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@ the OP, i think you should wait a couple of months until some new phones come out so that you have more choice. I'm personally HIGHLY considering getting a One X or One S if i can find the money for it as the keyboard on my phone is driving me nuts xD.
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After reviewing the phone in a store I was pretty impressed and there really wasn't anything wrong with the keyboard(firm enough) on that piece so I think I'll just have to have my fingers crossed to get a piece that has a stiff keyboard.
I need to buy a phone quick as my ZTE Blade's value is going down and I don't want to spend too much on upgrading. The only competitor IMHO to the DZ is Xperia Pro. So I think I'd either buy the DZ or the Xperia Pro...

You're talking about the mini pro? Or is there another version of it? The dz will probably have a larger community since that device wasn't advertised too much. It's still a great device though, a friend of mine's got it and I had the chance to play around with it.
The phone's hardware, as redpoint73 stated, is indeed starting to age. It can last for a bit more than a year, if you don't mind the slower hardware. So, it might just be worth it if you upgrade every 1,5-2 years.
Sent from my DZ.

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You're talking about the mini pro? Or is there another version of it? The dz will probably have a larger community since that device wasn't advertised too much. It's still a great device though, a friend of mine's got it and I had the chance to play around with it.
The phone's hardware, as redpoint73 stated, is indeed starting to age. It can last for a bit more than a year, if you don't mind the slower hardware. So, it might just be worth it if you upgrade every 1,5-2 years.
Sent from my DZ.
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No I'm talking about this: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php <<< It has a resolution of 480x854, so its bigger and it has a 1GHz processor. Only thing is that it does not have a good community(or maybe no community...)
I bought my ZTE Blade just 5 months back, so you know that's pretty short... I will obviously upgrade in the future if there is another phone that I fall in love with
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php

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I don't want to contradict you, but I never overclocked my existing phone which is only 600MHz and I was pretty satisfied because I used custom ROMs. The only Overclocking that I did was to OC the GPU. But the stock 800MHz on DZ is good with custom ROMs as I saw on youtube...
Well I'm still a teen so the One X is a tad too expensive. I txt, so HW keyboard is a necessity. I have an iPod touch 4 for 1GHz . I use that for Gaming, media, etc(you obviously know)...
Yes the market is full of Dual and Quad core phones and tabs out there but I might just venture out to that segment when I'm actually looking for a good quality phone to use long-term when I'm older(Coz my parents don't think I'd handle those kinda expensive Gizmos)
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Its largely a matter of personal preference and needs, so feel free to disagree! Its you buying the phone, after all. But for me, its really quite evident when comparing the Z to more modern phones, the difference in CPU. Lightweight ROMs help, but its really just a Band-Aid when the CPU is falling this far behind. But if you're on a budget, and can get a good deal on a Z, its still a solid phone.
Slightly off topic, but speaking of CPUs on newer phones, have you guys seen the recently posted benchmarks on the US (AT&T) version of the One X (actually One XL)? Dammmnnnn, this thing embarrasses every phone currently on the market, including the Galaxy Nexus. Much less an older phone like the Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565181

jj_95nano said:
No I'm talking about this: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php <<< It has a resolution of 480x854, so its bigger and it has a 1GHz processor. Only thing is that it does not have a good community(or maybe no community...)
I bought my ZTE Blade just 5 months back, so you know that's pretty short... I will obviously upgrade in the future if there is another phone that I fall in love with
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php
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I think that we don't care about the slight difference between the 2 processor as you can OC your DZ from 800Mhz to 1.8Ghz without problems (i know u can even go higher but i've never tried). Even if you're not fond of OCing, that's still a possibility.
Screen resolution doesn't seem relevant to me neither. 480*800 VS 480*854.....
On the other hand, the community should be a major argument as it's the one thing that allows our DZ not to be totally outdated.
P.S: Sorry, i'm pretty sure my english is terrible

TenMaKo said:
P.S: Sorry, i'm pretty sure my english is terrible
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Um, almost perfect, actually. And more better than many native English speakers on XDA. ;-)

Planning to buy HTC One V - Is my decision correct?

I am in mobile market for past 15 days and after some research only one phone has touched my heart i.e. HTC One V. It's design is fantastic, screen is good, has expandable memory, has snob value, good build quality, expandable memory, running latest android os, fair battery capacity, camera is better than most phones in this category etc. Only issue is single core 1GHZ processor because of which many have turned against this phone. I haven't tried this phone my self yet but from most youtube videos I can see that this phone hardly lags or slow downs. It is almost capable of running most of the applications.
Now coming down to my requirements from a phone
-> Basic phone usage i.e incoming/outgoing calls and SMSes.
-> Internet browsing/Email
-> Music listening
-> Taking Photos
-> Watching movies/youtube videos
After considering these requirements I find HTV One V a perfect phone for myself. I hardly play any game and it looks VFM. (Retailing for around 17K with 8GB card).
Please suggest me whether I should stick to this phone or is there any new better model coming up?
Xperia U is ruled out because of non-expandable memory, Xperia Sola and others are not touching heart (not feeling exclusive as design is almost same across the XPERIA range).
I have seen that there are number of complaints for HTC One V like yellow spots, phone not charging etc. I don't want any issues in a new phone. Are those issues now solved or was particular to a specific manufactured lot?
Any other phones in my fixed budget of 20K?

I haven't got any issue with my One V. I'm just lovin the phone...
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium

good phone
bluevolt said:
I am in mobile market for past 15 days and after some research only one phone has touched my heart i.e. HTC One V. It's design is fantastic, screen is good, has expandable memory, has snob value, good build quality, expandable memory, running latest android os, fair battery capacity, camera is better than most phones in this category etc. Only issue is single core 1GHZ processor because of which many have turned against this phone. I haven't tried this phone my self yet but from most youtube videos I can see that this phone hardly lags or slow downs. It is almost capable of running most of the applications.
Now coming down to my requirements from a phone
-> Basic phone usage i.e incoming/outgoing calls and SMSes.
-> Internet browsing/Email
-> Music listening
-> Taking Photos
-> Watching movies/youtube videos
After considering these requirements I find HTV One V a perfect phone for myself. I hardly play any game and it looks VFM. (Retailing for around 17K with 8GB card).
Please suggest me whether I should stick to this phone or is there any new better model coming up?
Xperia U is ruled out because of non-expandable memory, Xperia Sola and others are not touching heart (not feeling exclusive as design is almost same across the XPERIA range).
I have seen that there are number of complaints for HTC One V like yellow spots, phone not charging etc. I don't want any issues in a new phone. Are those issues now solved or was particular to a specific manufactured lot?
Any other phones in my fixed budget of 20K?
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I am very pleased with my one v so far, with the help of the fine people on the site I am rooted and rocking along and I do use the V.M. CDMA, FYI, if you go with this phone I had much better luck with twrp than CWM for back up.

1FRANKS said:
I am very pleased with my one v so far, with the help of the fine people on the site I am rooted and rocking along and I do use the V.M. CDMA, FYI, if you go with this phone I had much better luck with twrp than CWM for back up.
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which CWM did you use?

The one found here is the one i tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28251351#post28251351
attempted a couple of times just could not get it to work for me but I am super noob so you might rock it but the TWRP recovery work the 1st time
and is touch

Hello bluevolt,
I can understand that feeling of a phone touching your heart. Design and styling wise you don't have much options. Battery capacity is good and for your intended use will stay for about 30hrs on full charge. The display is something that is excellent (visibility problem only with bright sunlight) but I do have some reservations about the camera. Images look good on phone screen but the shortcomings are visible on bigger screens or print (my wife's sony xperia x10 mini 5MP camera gives better images). Here I am not talking about image clarity but image quality. Many take both as same. Colors feel extra bright sometimes (particularly in bright portraits) like some artificiality. I don't think you plan to use the camera for something more than casual photography and so it should suffice.
Coming to complaints - yes I faced the issue of yellow spots on display right at bottom and top left corners. It was not affecting anything but annoying sometimes (white background especially) more because you expect a company to quality check each and every product before it comes to market (they will put stickers "QC passed") and still miss something like that on screen!!! I procured the set from Malaysia and did not want to part with the phone for long :silly: so decided not to report the issue. Then one day when I was traveling, my phone just died in my pocket without any reason (enough battery, no chance of combination keys being active) and realized that HTC service center is as bad as it can be. It took almost a month for them to declare it irreparable and provide a replacement (yet to come to my hand).
You have an alternative in Xperia Neo L which is retailing at about 18K. You will definitely get a better camera, and 4" screen, but battery may be compromised (please see the specifications in detail). It all boils down to personal preference
If you plan to buy HTC One V, properly check for any display issues right in the shop. It must be visible on the white background when you switch it on (especially in corners) and also if you try google play store (without net connection - grey background) and also if you open ebooks. If so reject the piece outright. Shop will get it replaced. You argue for another set or moneyback.
I have to agree on one thing. OneV is a looker and it grows on you. I was more worried about not having it in my hand rather than thinking about getting the complaint rectified.
Regards

One V is great, but if I had the choice again I'd go for the One S.
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium

bluevolt said:
I am in mobile market for past 15 days and after some research only one phone has touched my heart i.e. HTC One V. It's design is fantastic, screen is good, has expandable memory, has snob value, good build quality, expandable memory, running latest android os, fair battery capacity, camera is better than most phones in this category etc. Only issue is single core 1GHZ processor because of which many have turned against this phone. I haven't tried this phone my self yet but from most youtube videos I can see that this phone hardly lags or slow downs. It is almost capable of running most of the applications.
Now coming down to my requirements from a phone
-> Basic phone usage i.e incoming/outgoing calls and SMSes.
-> Internet browsing/Email
-> Music listening
-> Taking Photos
-> Watching movies/youtube videos
After considering these requirements I find HTV One V a perfect phone for myself. I hardly play any game and it looks VFM. (Retailing for around 17K with 8GB card).
Please suggest me whether I should stick to this phone or is there any new better model coming up?
Xperia U is ruled out because of non-expandable memory, Xperia Sola and others are not touching heart (not feeling exclusive as design is almost same across the XPERIA range).
I have seen that there are number of complaints for HTC One V like yellow spots, phone not charging etc. I don't want any issues in a new phone. Are those issues now solved or was particular to a specific manufactured lot?
Any other phones in my fixed budget of 20K?
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If it touched your heart, you have to go for it! Because if you like the design you're not going to enjoy anything else. Don't worry about the processor, it runs very smooth. I had a 1.5GHz dualcore before, and noticed no real speed difference. HTC is even releasing a 600MHz phone these days, the Desire C. And you can overclock. It's perfectly stable at 1.5GHz, and with any luck you can go to 2GHz. Any more than that just needlessly reduces battery life. You will be able to go over a day without charging, and laugh at everybody who can't.
As for your personal requirements, I think it does all of those fine. I don't know whether watching full-length movies on a 3.7" screen will be fun, in case you meant that. But any of the bigger phones will barely have the battery life to do that. It's best to get a cheap tablet and use the V as a wifi router in that case.
I don't know about manufacturing errors, as my phone came just fine. But I'm not seeing too many complaints on this forum. And I think you will just get a replacement in that case. They say the One series is a bit easy to brick though, but if you are careful you should be fine.
As for alternatives, if you don't need GPS capabilities, a used Galaxy S would offer roughly the same hardware for a lot less money. I don't think you will enjoy it with the One V in the back of your mind though. And the Xperia Ray might be worth looking up in case you are fine with such small a screen. Also you can try this to get some more ideas. Just be sure to google whether they have any flaws. Most One V alternatives do have some crippling flaw, the One V does not.
I am not aware of interesting alternatives being released soon. And if you get a newly released phone you will have to go without custom roms for quite a while. The One V already has an official MIUI, and will soon have CyanogenMod9.
GTI WR6 said:
if I had the choice again I'd go for the One S.
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Bad battery life, and from what I read getting a GPS fix takes two minutes. Also the low button placement makes it really fumbly and easy to drop.

1FRANKS said:
I do use the V.M. CDMA
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Euh, noob question, but what the hell is that?

HTC One V GSM edition users can take advantage of the NinjaTel ROM, which is always a bonus over other phones

guys from where i should purchase the phone? - normal shops like hotspot or malls like croma etc?
Will they open the new piece for me to check for any screen issues?

croma will give at cheap rates
and no dey wil not open.. once u confirm your purchase then they will open and give a demo
Sent from my ONE V

bluevolt said:
I am in mobile market for past 15 days and after some research only one phone has touched my heart i.e. HTC One V. It's design is fantastic, screen is good, has expandable memory, has snob value, good build quality, expandable memory, running latest android os, fair battery capacity, camera is better than most phones in this category etc. Only issue is single core 1GHZ processor because of which many have turned against this phone. I haven't tried this phone my self yet but from most youtube videos I can see that this phone hardly lags or slow downs. It is almost capable of running most of the applications.
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Hi,
I own one for two weeks now and it is my first Smartphone. The reasons I got it were:
- handling with a single hand possible
- nice design, good finnish and build quality
- size is small enough to fit in Jeans pocket, large enough to be usable
- HTC makes a lot of fuzz about their photo chip, well...it was a reason. But I am not satisfied.
- expandable storage via MicroSD
- modern model
I did not have any issues, yet, except of a full SD card wipe out, reformat and factory settings reset, but that was not caused by the phone itself, I assume it was GTAIII or some of the background apps I had installed like Avast and Automagic.
The "slow" CPU is not an issue at all (I also play games). I never ever came across some slow CPU performance. The only real issue might be the low amount of RAM. This I find a bit lacking. 768MB, or better, 1GB, would have been nice. Also it lacks a lot of sensors, that I would like to have, such as Gravity, Magnetometer, Rotation Vector, Orientation, Pressure and Temperature But then, I am a Geek.
What I also miss is a special button, directly for the camera. I should be able to hit it and the phone would wake up with the cam set ready and the next press would shoot a photo.
I do not find the camera to be soo good as advertised. Some reviews say it's great, others say it's not.
Also, 3.7" is a eeny wheeny tad to small.
The phone I like the most ATM would be the HTC One S, since it's got a 4.3" screen but they made it so, that it si nearly as sleek as the One V and can be handled with a single hand. However, and that is the big big problem with it: It's got no storage expansion. You are damned to feel good enough with 16GB of RAM, which I find a joke. I have a MacBook with an SD card reader and an SSD in it. I store my music on a file-server at home (NAS) and export them for mobile use (Laptop and Phone) as MP3 onto SD Cards. This way I can plug the cars into the Laptop and the phone. Otherwise I'd need a much bigger SSD which is too expensive (and still would need one, two SD cards for the phone). I can't wait for the 512GB MicroSDs
Okay, enuough of my own Smartphone philosophy (amazing topic!).
Summing it up: for that, what you want to do, the phone is enough. It is even enough for me, who plays games as well. "HTC Sense" is very nice and capable! The phone is very easy and comfortable to use. It has a very nice display, IMO, reading ebooks seems like on an E-Ink display. Audio quality (with ear-phones) is also very good, IMO. I did not yet stress test it, but battery life is sufficient for my use. I plug it in anyway, as soon as I am home. Of all the offers on the market, it may be only medium class, but is, overall, still one of the best. The CPU is no issue at all, IMO. The RAM is, sometimes. Also, more than 1GB of internal storage would have been nice, so you can install more apps, that you really really want to make sure, are always with you. However, this is more an esotheric issue and not really at hand, since you most obviously will use SD cards. Oh, and the metal-unibody is nice, too. Very sturdy, is good in the pocket. The cam? You won't really find any satisfying camera outside of some NOKIA or SONY offers, but they have other drawbacks. I would say: Get it! :cyclops:

hackajar said:
HTC One V GSM edition users can take advantage of the NinjaTel ROM, which is always a bonus over other phones
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You suck, you know that ?? Advertising your stolen product openly to someone who still did not even buy three product.:thumbdown:
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app

Amon_Re said:
Euh, noob question, but what the hell is that?
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Its virgin mobile on cdma network in the USA .
Sent from my One V using Tapatalk 2

those who own HTC One V can you please tell me if this phone is easily fittable in trouser's/jeans's side pockets and there is no issue while sitting/driving car/riding bike etc???

bluevolt said:
those who own HTC One V can you please tell me if this phone is easily fittable in trouser's/jeans's side pockets and there is no issue while sitting/driving car/riding bike etc???
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Not at all...it's compact.
Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app

bluevolt said:
those who own HTC One V can you please tell me if this phone is easily fittable in trouser's/jeans's side pockets and there is no issue while sitting/driving car/riding bike etc???
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You will need sort of soft case or hard case to prevent damages. I feel like my phone is squeezed in my Jean's side pocket. But this phone is still pocketable.