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How to start programming apps for WM Smartphones

Hi, I'm an experienced developer (C,C++,C#,Delphi,Java) and I did some stuff with XNA Studio with Visual Studio Express 2008.
What exactly do I need to start developing apps/games for windows mobile smartphones?
Sorry I tried the search but I'm not able to find anything useful, maybe I used the wrong keywords.

Decide what to use! For Windows Mobile you can use C/C++, .Net ( "Compact Framework" ), FreePascal (as you mention Delphi - this is my own favorite), I think there is even a VB for WM.
For C/C++ you will need to get the Windows Mobile SDK, this is available from Microsoft. API is very much like "slimmed down" Win32 API. For .Net, Google "Compact Framework", or ".Net CF SDK" or something similar.
I am not completely sure, but I think you will need commercial version of Visual Studio. As I recall, "express" / free version does not support WinCE / WM compilation (this is probably why you did not find the option to compile for Windows Mobile)
Good luck!

Thanks! I have both Visual Studio 2008 (non express too) and Rad Studio 2009 (delphi 2009) ...
As I want to get into game development, I'd like to have access to the full power of the phone Using Visual Studio with the SDK might be better, because as I've read it comes with a WM6 emulator...
Any ideas on where I can find tutorials, to display graphics on the phone?

I program using VS08 and the SDK with VB. Not doing anything fancy at the moment, but it does come with an emulator. I haven't figured out how to actually deply it on to the device yet tho.

When you deploy or debug the application it should usually give the option to deploy to a device or emulator. The device of course needs to be connected to ActiveSync.
Also theres a port of QT to Windows Mobile, which seems to work but far more tricky to set up and get working that just using .NET CF it seems

Code with Visual Studio 2008 for WM 6 in VGA and WVGA

HI there,
I would like to start coding for Windows Mobile 6 with Visual Studio 2008. But when I start a new project "Intelligent Device" - I get the picture of a pocket pc with 240*480 px and I can only use the WM 5 emulator.
I already installed the Microsoft WM 6 Prof. SDK, but nothing changed in my Visual Studio 2008 installation.
How can I start coding for VGA and WVGA devices? Could you please help me little out.

I think I fixed it by uninstalling and reinstalling VS2008, maybe you can try that? It was a long time ago so I don't really remember, sorry.

lamajstro said:
HI there,
I would like to start coding for Windows Mobile 6 with Visual Studio 2008. But when I start a new project "Intelligent Device" - I get the picture of a pocket pc with 240*480 px and I can only use the WM 5 emulator.
I already installed the Microsoft WM 6 Prof. SDK, but nothing changed in my Visual Studio 2008 installation.
How can I start coding for VGA and WVGA devices? Could you please help me little out.
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after u create a smart device project, hit project/change target platform and select a WM6 version

i want to programming c++ at HD2

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i want to programming c++ at HD2
I found in market a programm "esql" and it is for DB it very nice
but I need one for c++
can I find any program for this ??

no one can help me??!!
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Your best bet:
Visual Studio 2008
Windows Mobile Professional SDK
ActiveSync / Windows Mobile Device Center.

Free alternative is Embedded Visual C++,but IMHO it needs much more experiences with object programming,but if you understand the principle,it is also good to develop something. Actually,it is designed for old WM2003,but apps developed there are working also under newest WM versions. Additionally to evC++ you do need WM 6.1 SDK with emulators and latest ServicePack for evC++.
Main problem there is,that the emulator for WM5+ doesn't work directly with evC++ and it cannot connect to the device directly via ActiveSync(because since WM5 it is using TCP/IP communication instead of regular serial as before). However,these are minor problems.

So will WM 6.5 app development still occur after WM7?

Apparently Visual Studio 2010 doesn't support WM6.5 app development:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Visu...pport-for-WM-6-x-App-Development-139781.shtml
Since Microsoft are making it hard to develop for both Winphone 7 and WM 6.5 at the same time, does this mean Winmo 6.5 is going to die out soon?
If so, then Microsoft's claims that WM 6.5 will live side-by-side with WM7 were all rubbish.

pkchips said:
Apparently Visual Studio 2010 doesn't support WM6.5 app development:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Visu...pport-for-WM-6-x-App-Development-139781.shtml
Since Microsoft are making it hard to develop for both Winphone 7 and WM 6.5 at the same time, does this mean Winmo 6.5 is going to die out soon?
If so, then Microsoft's claims that WM 6.5 will live side-by-side with WM7 were all rubbish.
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Just because 6.5 will live side by side with WP7 doesn't mean they want you to build new apps. They figure WM6.5 already has enough apps to keep it coasting on it's own for a couple years and they want all new focus to go into WP7. That's the way I see it.

Visual Studio 2008 doesn't stop working because Visual Studio 2010 was released. There's nothing to stop you developing for WM6.5 at all

flashpanda said:
Visual Studio 2008 doesn't stop working because Visual Studio 2010 was released. There's nothing to stop you developing for WM6.5 at all
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What I thought was that since its only possible to program for win7 in visual studio 2010, people will forget about WM6.5 because of the hassle of porting everything to Visual studio 2008 and .NET compact framework.
In other words, they can't just recompile the same code to work in WM6.5, and on top of that, they have to have both Visual studio 2008 and 2010 in their possession.

pkchips said:
What I thought was that since its only possible to program for win7 in visual studio 2010, people will forget about WM6.5 because of the hassle of porting everything to Visual studio 2008 and .NET compact framework.
In other words, they can't just recompile the same code to work in WM6.5, and on top of that, they have to have both Visual studio 2008 and 2010 in their possession.
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If they aren't developing for WM 6.5 already then they probably arent going to in the future meaning they have no reason to get VS 2008 but if they are then they already have 2008 and they just have to install 2010 with it.

Kloc said:
If they aren't developing for WM 6.5 already then they probably arent going to in the future meaning they have no reason to get VS 2008 but if they are then they already have 2008 and they just have to install 2010 with it.
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Yep, but if only they had made visual studio 2010 able to make programs for both WM6.5 and WP7. Then, they could write the program and easily just recompile it for WM6.5 with some changes.

Unfortunately it's not that easy to make a program that works for both WP7 and WM. Obviously the UI differences are huge, but even with regard to business logic you have to make lots of things differently.

You have VS 2008 for Windows Mobile development
You have VS 2010 for Windows Phone 7 development
You can still have source code which you can compile with both 2008 and 2010 but overall I think this doesn't make sense. WP7 development I guess you start it from scratch. If you already had your project developed for WM 6 then this is a great oppertunity to do a re-design to maintain clean code.

So will WM 6.5 app development still occur after WM7?
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As far as commercial software development is concerned, development for Windows Mobile has already stopped. That's not because of VisualStudio versions, of course, it's because WP7 can't run WM software, and there's no point in creating software now for a platform that has already been terminated. This is the reason why Adobe isn't releasing FlashPlayer for Windows Mobile, why we won't see a new WM version of Skype and why (incredibly) even Microsoft has announced a new version of Silverlight for Symbian, but not for WM.

If I may, this conversation seems to be confounding Visual Studio versions with Windows Mobile Development kit APIs.
Has anyone actually tried installing the Windows Mobile 6.5 development kit on a Visual Studio 2010 release and found it to not work? The compiler is most certainly capable of compiling it, the question is whether incompatibilities for development kits have been introduced in 2010. VS 2008 Pro didn't include built in support for Windows Mobile, if I recall, I had to install the dev kit.
I'll check on this tonight when I get home. I'm also curious about whether they'll get the dev kit for WP7 working on 2008. That's likely what MS has been using internally, the question is simply about whether or not they want to release it.
Rob

I have asked Brian Harry (the Microsoft guy) about the support for wm6.5 and wince in vs2010 during his presentation in Moscow and he said that the SDK will be released a few weeks or month after the release of vs2010 and that they're not going to drop the support for old devices

I want to become a Windows Phone 7 developer!

Hi all!
I decided I want to start developing apps for Windows Phone, and want some pointers. I already know visual basic and java, the latter of which was handy on creating a few apps on android. I 'm quite experienced when it comes to linux, and I'm also good with hardware. That's my backround. Now I've set my eyes on Windows Phone 7 and I want to take it up seriously. So where should I begin, what tools should I use, and is there a guide, possibly? I'm a fast learner, and very eager to begin!
Thanks in advance!

I posted a lot of links in the following thread (3rd message)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387900
Hope it helps, and good luck with whatever you write.
Ian

Thanks Ian! I'm gonna get started right away!

First of all you have to learn C# it's easy language and very similar to Java. Later you have to read sth about .net Framework. To write a application you have to download free Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone.
Good luck and have fun

You can use VB language too. So you should be good. No need to learn c#. But But you should, I love c#.
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To be open, C# == java (true) extra features and more functions

Hextor_PL said:
First of all you have to learn C# it's easy language and very similar to Java. Later you have to read sth about .net Framework. To write a application you have to download free Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone.
Good luck and have fun
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Is it necessary to have VS 2010 Express installed? Or is the VS for Windows Phone enough?
Damn..I have VS 2010 Express installed, and I just cannot uninstall it completely. Now, SDk 7.1 cannot be installed due to missing components.
Note: I uninstalled VS 2010 as it had that bug wherein you cannot start a new project. "Registry error"

not necessary. but it's must have one.

I think you need the full paid for version of Visual Studio in order to use VB coding on WP7 but if you already have that then it's all good!

comeradealexi said:
I think you need the full paid for version of Visual Studio in order to use VB coding on WP7 but if you already have that then it's all good!
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ans sometime you don't need to buy, if your country doesn't has laws like us

Thanks，your ansowers is useful for me too.(poor english)