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Nexus One ROM?

Is it possible to run the Nexus One ROM on the Desire? I like to use the stock Android experience, and OpenDesire used to provide this but all of the tweaks from Cyanogen mod is changing that.

The simple answer is no. It has to be ported to use on the desire.

I like to think that the cm-mod changes are for the better, but you could eventually use an older version of opendesire, if you used to like it I prefer sense roms myself, but there is several different versions of the aosp compiled roms, have you tried all of them?

Thanks for the replies guys. Good to know.
I've only tried one or two AOSP ROM's - I'll keep trying Any suggestions?

Not really the only other option will probably be to start compiling your own rom for the desire trying to get the completely stock experience, but that requires some skills neither you nor i have i believe

What rom do you use at the moment and why?

We have got many good developers here working on different ROMS.
I just would like to know what ROM are you all using at the moment and why.
I used most of the time Sense rom from Leedroid. I love his boot image and the fact it is sense rom. I tried Sense HD and I like it, but until the camera works is no good for me for day to day use. Last couple of days I use MIUI and it is really different but nice (like iphone OS but on better device)

I've used Defrost, Opendesire, Villainrom, SupervillainHD and Oxygen. Like the ASOP roms the best, as they are the fastest, allow me to choose the addons more (not 3 or more programs for one task, if i don't want to use Sense apps), and are more versatily (at least, appear to me to be so).

Moved to general as this is in no way pertaining to ROM development.

fair enough. I just tought the poll might help people to choose a rom to use/try.

I am using pinky desire classsic at the moment .

CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!

using pays sense rom
tried auraxtsense rom, but reverted back to pays
it has the best dialer i have seen in a rom.
would like to try sense HD, but wont until they fix the camera

inkredi said:
CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
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I never really tried CM rom. i have to give it a go.

What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...

EddyOS said:
What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
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By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.

On that assumption I voted stock as I'm running the stock 2.29.405.2 WWE ROM
Why? As it does all I need it to

OpenDesire
I went from stock ROM to OpenDesire 4.0.36. I do not miss Sense at all and BT keyboard now works (why, HTC, oh why?). The only thing I miss from Sense is the weather widget.
Too bad OpenDesire will not be updated any longer as from the final 4.1 version. I hope it gets Gingerbread (2.3) in the final build.

Leedroid, because it has apps2sd by default and is pretty clean and has some other nice little touches (but still pretty close to stock) like a transparent notification drawer

I tried all rom types, but in the end I return to Sense. People who say AOSP or Cyanogen are faster have clearly never used a sense rom. It's at least on par and scrolling is smoother.

CrimzonEyed said:
By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
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yes that's exactly what I mean

Teppic74's Rom and tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
With the GPU and SD card patched kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819601
And a theme I made using UOT kitchen.
I like sense, and I wanted something relatively close to stock but with A2SD and a few other bits and pieces.

what is AOKP and AOSP

Hi everyone
Can u tell me what are AOKP and AOSP roms?
what do they do?
are they better than sense roms?

AOSP is an original ROM unmodified as Google intended it to be.
AOKP is based on AOSP but has some slight modifications but not modified to the extent of CM (Cyanogen)
As to if they are better or not well that is a matter of opinion, in terms of performance yeah all AOSP, AOKP and CM ROM's will run smoother and faster than a Sense ROM but there are plenty of people who enjoy the functionality of a Sense based ROM and those who don't.

Thank you! always wondered what that was.
KN

awesome............ dud....

aosp = android open source project
aokp = android open kang project (link https://sites.google.com/site/androidopenkangproject/)
Kokacrime said:
and what's the difference between aosp roms and stock roms, besides e.g. preinstalled samsung apps?
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It's not really about the Samsung/Sense apps more about the whole "layer" that i.e. Samsung/HTC put over the basic rom, (touchwiz and sense in the case of samsung/htc).
So if you'd take those layers/apps away you would just have the basis which is just AOSP.

Personally, AOKP is better as it takea some influence from CyanogenMod, which is THE most popular ROM available for devices
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new website for AOKP
aokp.co/index.php/news
They are finally in milestone 6 , ICS final and will start in JB from fresh! That's awesome news because DHD is still supported. There's pics with DHD working with JB.

aokp.co/index.php/news
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So do you need clockwork recovery to flash or use aokp?

civydcex said:
So do you need clockwork recovery to flash or use aokp?
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No. AOKP ROMs are like any other ROM; they can be flashed from any recovery compatible with your phone.

dstylazz said:
AOSP is an original ROM unmodified as Google intended it to be.
AOKP is based on AOSP but has some slight modifications but not modified to the extent of CM (Cyanogen)
As to if they are better or not well that is a matter of opinion, in terms of performance yeah all AOSP, AOKP and CM ROM's will run smoother and faster than a Sense ROM but there are plenty of people who enjoy the functionality of a Sense based ROM and those who don't.
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Generally, can we classified ROMs as AOSP, AOKP, CM, MIUI, Sense. Am I right there is other category ?
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mohazia said:
Generally, can we classified ROMs as AOSP, AOKP, CM, MIUI, Sense. Am I right there is other category ?
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It depends on the phone. For example, on this phone we have Sense because of HTC; other phones will have other overlays (like Samsung's TouchWiz). Also, some ROMs don't reside neatly in one category; for example, we have codefireX because of Team Codefire, which is descended from AOSP, CM, and some AOKP ideas.

hi guys :)

hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior

You will learn a lot reading the forum A lot of threads have sticky topics, that answer most of the questions you might get, pretty well.
One thing is certain - you will love the phone! The only downside for me is the batterylife, then again, most smartphones don't have great battery life.

liorderei said:
hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior
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Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Firstly , welcome to the One X forum of xda !
I'll start from the basics as you asked .
If you want to flash custom ROMs , you'll have to unlock bootloader , root and flash custom recovery ( CWM or TWRP ) . Due to unknown reasons , HTC is not giving us One X users S-Off bootloader which unlocks a lot of features . But also , it's not much of a restriction if you're used to it . You can follow these 2 noob-proof videos if you want to root your phone .
Please read the quote I'm going to write below as it clarifies the reply of Zlotin's a lot .
Zlotin said:
Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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There are four types of different ROMs which are Sense-based ( obviously you know what it is already ) , AOSP ( Android Open Source Project ) this ROM will give you the complete experience of android , AOKP ( Android Open Kang Project ) this ROM is much likely same as AOSP but it has more custom features and lastly the MIUI ( Mobile Internet/Mission Impossible User Interface ) this ROM is completely by itself , it gives you a ... kinda iOS UI and other custom features of its own . You can find all these ROMs in both android development and original android development forums . The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. Now the JB-Sense ROMs are final-versions which are not leaks as Zlotin said . But to flash JB-Sense ROMs , you need to have updated hboot version which is restricted by CIDs . Currently , only Taiwan have the officially released hboot as they have received they JB through OTA . The European ones are leaks not official but still usable .

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The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. .
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Aha! New here too and I was wondering about that, thought it was AOSP vs sense then saw a sense version in there .. then I thought its just because theres so much development one forum isnt enough! -which is true too i guess. Anyway its amazing to see so much happening here after the sad story of official support which hurt development for my Atrix so much.

thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask

liorderei said:
thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask
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welcome, sorry to be such a bastard but this is not the right section

[Q] what's the differences between the various sense based ROMs?

I'm talking about the 4.1.x Sense roms like ARHD, OrDroid and etc.
not trying to start an argument but reading their description and it seems they are fairly similar to each other. as such, choosing one over the other is a good decision.
thanks!

mrjayviper said:
I'm talking about the 4.1.x Sense roms like ARHD, OrDroid and etc.
not trying to start an argument but reading their description and it seems they are fairly similar to each other. as such, choosing one over the other is a good decision.
thanks!
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I can't really see that much of a difference in the ROMS(Well the exception is Viper ROM because it is the most tweaked and most different of the sense ROMS), the sense ROMs basically do the same, just some few differences I think and therefore I think it is up to the individual to chose which ROM they prefer. I personally use Renovate and I like it.

Try them all
there are to me different families of custom ROMs:
1. close to stock, updated quickly after a new base is released/leaked on some Russian or Chinese sites: few tweaks mainly for battery and speed (football rom is in this category - hopefully it will be available again ). mike1986 (ARHD), baadnewz (InsertCoin), Shnizlon (OrDroid), ... tends to add apps and mods via AROMA installer but these ROMs can also be consired in the category.
2. custom custom ROM: the developer uses a custom ROM for his base (football, orDroid, ...) and provides additional tweaks or flavors (De-Sense, minimalist (NumerOne), pre-installed and tested mods (camera, sound, ...), different kernels
3. Further from stock: Venon as you mentioned is a good example but there are more and more ROMs in this category: Themed ROMs would go here too (Lextermina Abster Go, Renovate, ...)
and then the non Sense ROMs: AOSP, CyanogenMod, MIUI, ParanoidAndroid (hybrid phone tablet)...
Best is to try them
mrjayviper said:
I'm talking about the 4.1.x Sense roms like ARHD, OrDroid and etc.
not trying to start an argument but reading their description and it seems they are fairly similar to each other. as such, choosing one over the other is a good decision.
thanks!
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