hi. i perma-rooted my phone and then got the OTA update. since im not sure whether i want to do the OTA (people reported their phone being sluggish afterwards) i would like it to stop bugging me about updating. is there a way to do it? i have looked everywhere on the phone, but couldn't find a setting for that.
thnx in advance.
also, if i do decide to do the OTA, would i have to re-root the phone?
thx
I'm a bit torn on this as well. Just recently rooted my phone before getting the announcement on my phone that the update is available. However, after actually trying it, it stops at the very beginning and Clockworks is telling me that some signature couldn't be validated and it interrupted the installation of the update.
No harm came to my phone and it's still in the same state as it was before attempting to apply the OTA update.
Would I need to do the round-about way by downloading and installing it another method?
I'm interested in this as well. I have a second G2 arriving for a family friend. Its totally unlocked so I will most likely apply the update and then root the phone. Is it the consensus opinion that future updates after flashing with clockwork will just fail at some signature validation after rooting and S=OFF? I'm curious about future updates from HTC/Tmo and how this will work as well. I'm also assuming that applying the existing OTA and then rooting is the best way to go.
BTW, I'm truly enjoying this phone now. Thanks to the general, themes/apps, and QA forums sections!
Just to update, I went ahead and applied the OTA update. The only reason why mine couldn't update properly is because I had uninstalled Google Goggles, as it runs an app check. You WILL lose your root but still have S-OFF. I followed this guide step-by-step and I was able to get root again. As far as it being sluggish, there's no performance loss.
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So you've installed the OTA update. Now you've got software version 1.47.651.1. You've probably attempted to restore to factory using the RUU exe file and you're getting some kind of version error and can't get it back to stock. You've tried to root, but that won't work either.
Well, you're up the creek without a paddle. As of right now, there is no way to restore factory settings, and there is no way to root the OTA update to 1.47.651.1.
If you've installed the HACKED OTA update from the developers forum, you can disregard this post as you have a ROOTED version of the OTA update. But if like a lot of people you either A) purchased a phone with the OTA pre-installed or B) Installed the OTA when Sprints little app popped up asking you "Hey, there's an update, do you want to install it?"
For now, just wait. They're working on it. And by "they" I mean the bright minds of the developers of these great forums, even some not-so-bright minds are lending a hand however they can
In the mean time, check out this thread if you want to see how the progress is coming.
bump..since people are still asking this question. Any chance for a sticky?
By the question you can tell that i'm rather inexperienced at this, but a buddy of mine(who has a Droid on VZW) and i were debating whether or not doing an OTA update after you root would cause you to loose your ability to root forever.
I guess it's different on both devices, but he contends that he could unroot his droid, which is running a custom 2.2 ROM, install an OTA update, decide he doesn't like it, then just go back to a 2.1 RUU from VZW or Motorola, and then re-root.
Everything i have read here about the EVO indicates that if i am already rooted, and i accept an OTA update, then i will never be able to root again. Does never, really mean never? Or is it just mean that i won't be able to root using the current methods to root the phone?
What if i had never rooted and then accepted the OTA 2.2 from sprint that may be coming this week, would i then be able to root?
What exactly does the update do to remove the ability to get /root access to the phone? Something with the bootloader, HBOOT, or what?
Thanks for the information. Hopefully, this will settle this question for my friend and I.
Chris
OTA updates typically break any existing root methods, and disable any current root access.
Some OTA's also update the phone in a manner which prevents older official roms (that have working roots) from being reinstalled.
At that point, you have an updated rom with known roots removed, that can't be rolled back, so the only option is to wait until another root exploit is found and released. Which may or may not happen depending on the device and whoever is working on it.
Hope that helps.
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
HTC is tricksy and they dont let you roll back after the OTA. Motorolla may not have this so your friend may in fact be able to roll back to 2.1 (however he may be misinformed as well).
To root basically they find a bug to exploit that allows us to gain access as a root user. when the OTA updates come out 99% of the time they will fix this bug. HTCat least blocks roll backs so now you are on a new version of the software that you can not go backwards and the bug to root is no longer there.
While there are normally other bugs that can be exploited to get root it is possible that there isnt one or that if there is no one can find it. if they cant find it then it could remove your ability to root permanently.
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You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
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while true accepting an OTA will not give you the chance to do this for most.
ok, that explains things a little better. thanks.
I'm new to all of this as well. My EVO has already been updated OTA by a Sprint employee while I was purchasing the phone. From what I've read it looks like I'm SOL until someone cracks 2.2. One quick question though... How long did it take people to be able to root the first software on the EVO's?
So I'm finally suppose to get my G2 tomorrow by the end of the day according to the UPS tracking, I got mine free with the promotion deal that ends today. I am not just asking a question without looking for myself, I have been reading about root and how to do it for the past week. I would like to know if I should apply the OTA update before I root it. Should I? I have read about bricking a phone and if your at a certain degree of screwed and you are post OTA, then you are totally screwed. But I don't remember if it was post OTA or after you have applied the OTA. To avoid a total brick, should I apply the OTA or not? Or to keep it simple, should I apply the OTA before I root or not? Or does it not matter?
I am sure if you are getting the phone tomorrow it will already have the update on it. If it has Wi/Fi calling it has the update. You can root with gfree either way. Check out the vision wiki page and it takes you step-by-step.
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I am sure if you are getting the phone tomorrow it will already have the update on it. If it has Wi/Fi calling it has the update. You can root with gfree either way. Check out the vision wiki page and it takes you step-by-step.
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Yes, I have read the Vision's root tutorial in the Wiki more than 3 times now. But if I were to brick it, would it be safer to be pre OTA or to have already applied the OTA? Because I have read something about if you brick it and are post OTA then you can't fix it with that signed .zip file from HTC. I know that it MIGHT already be pre applied to the phone when I get it but I just want to know which is safer if its not already applied.
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Yes, I have read the Vision's root tutorial in the Wiki more than 3 times now. But if I were to brick it, would it be safer to be pre OTA or to have already applied the OTA? Because I have read something about if you brick it and are post OTA then you can't fix it with that signed .zip file from HTC. I know that it MIGHT already be pre applied to the phone when I get it but I just want to know which is safer if its not already applied.
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You are right if you have 1.19 pre OTA don't apply the update, because if something goes wrong we have a full PC10IMG for 1.19 to restore your phone, we don't have one for 1.22 OTA.
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KoolKidsKlub said:
So I'm finally suppose to get my G2 tomorrow by the end of the day according to the UPS tracking, I got mine free with the promotion deal that ends today. I am not just asking a question without looking for myself, I have been reading about root and how to do it for the past week. I would like to know if I should apply the OTA update before I root it. Should I? I have read about bricking a phone and if your at a certain degree of screwed and you are post OTA, then you are totally screwed. But I don't remember if it was post OTA or after you have applied the OTA. To avoid a total brick, should I apply the OTA or not? Or to keep it simple, should I apply the OTA before I root or not? Or does it not matter?
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Generally speaking, I would say that you should root the phone before you apply the OTA update.
I don't have a G2, I am on a DZ, so my suggestion is only general.
I accidentally let mine update after I bought it as I hadn't had a chance to read through the rooting guides yet. I actually did the hex edit version revert but I'm not so sure that was even necessary. I've since run gfree on the 1.22 OTA updated G2 with no problems.
I think you would have to be EXTREMELY unlucky to brick your phone with gfree pre or post OTA. This is due to you controlling all that goes to the phone and if it you type something wrong (minus eng hboot of course) it simply won't take on the phone, giving you an error message and you just have to retype it. Really no way to brick if you just want to root and s-off.
Yesterday I received a message from Tmobile that there is a new software update for my phone. I was at work and did not want to bother with it so I tried to say not to the update and the only option is to postpone for a maximum of 1 day. To get out of the message I selected the home key. I keep getting the reminder every 4 hours and the message will not go away from notifications drop down screen.
Tmobile seems very eager to push this update out, I rooted my phone about a month ago so I could use the tethering feature when I'm on call without the extra expense, also used Titanium to freeze the bloatware apps as well. Will this software update affect or undo my root access? Does anyone know if the update is good or bad?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Yes you will lose root but it can be rooted easily using the same method. This question has been answered over and over try searching a bit.
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Thank you for the information I did see threads on the subject but they were on older software updates.I did not run across one that talked about this latest update, I did not know if there was something different or if the the new update made it difficult to re-root. Some updates may only be beneficial to Tmobile and not the end user. Does anyone have the specifics on the update? Pros and Cons?
I'd like to know if the update is worth it as well.
My phone is currently rooted but I was not the one who did it so I'm afraid to lose root because I wouldn't know how to re-root it.
Is there a way to update without losing root?
I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
yepvegas said:
I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
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You sure about that? If updating to the UVLDE 2.3.6 GB via OTA, I am pretty sure you lost root. You probably still have the super user app installed, but that in and of itself does not ensure root. Try using a app that requires root access such as Titanium Backup.
Hi,
I just got my LG yesterday, and I rooted it via PurpleDrake.
Today, everyone once in a while, a pop-up comes up about LG's Software Update, asking me to update.
So, my question is this, will updating cause issues because of rooting?
Also, if so, how can I get rid of this stupid pop up asking me to update? [I did turn off OTAs, so I'm assuming this is not one?]
Thanks.
I doubt it is. For an OTA update as rooting your device will stop that happening,most likely an app update or something to do with lg agreements.
Ruttix said:
Hi,
I just got my LG yesterday, and I rooted it via PurpleDrake.
Today, everyone once in a while, a pop-up comes up about LG's Software Update, asking me to update.
So, my question is this, will updating cause issues because of rooting?
Also, if so, how can I get rid of this stupid pop up asking me to update? [I did turn off OTAs, so I'm assuming this is not one?]
Thanks.
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A software update can still attempt to install if you have not disabled OTA updates from your carrier somehow. Since you are rooted you should freeze the System updates process so it will not attempt to install the update and potentially remove root, or break something during the OTA install. This is not disabled automatically by just rooting, although some methods during root may also disable updates. I am not familiar enough with PurpleDrake to say if it does this or not. I do know that with IORoot you will still need to manually freeze the system update process.