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[Q] n00b rooting help please

Was wanting some more help with rooting my Evo for the first time. I know there are a lot of guides for n00bs out there but this stuff moves too fast and they are out of date.
Anyways, my phone is stock:
-Android 2.2
-Software number 3.29.651.5
-PRI version 1.77_003
-PRL version 60671
My intention was to use Unrevoked 3.21 but I read through ALOT of information from different sites and am thoroughly confused. Since my phone has all the recent OTA updates can it be rooted with this? And if so, I most definitely need to not take the Sprint OTA updates and wait for the "rooted" versions correct?
I like the Sense UI (but never used any others) and am happy with the phone the way it is. My hope is being able to use the hotspot feature and remove the bloatware from the phone.
Can anyone walk me through some of this (specific to my need)? As said before, I know there are already some n00b walkthroughs out there but most are too dated and some things apply and some don't which makes it very confusing.

Unrevoked 3.21 is the way to go. I just used it to root my replacement evo and it worked beautifully. Here is the thread for it, just read it and follow the relatively easy instructions and you won't have any issues.

Great.....thanks. This one is the most current I have seen.
I have read that if I take this route the phone could still be flashed back to a stock state in case warranty service (by Sprint) is needed. Am I still correct in assuming this?

Absolutely. It is very easy to unroot and return your phone to stock.

I'm going through the process now. However, my phone has rebooted and unrevoked3 has been sitting doing nothing for awhile. It still says:
Waiting for root...(safe to restart if this doesn't work)
Recovery image: ClockworkMod Recovery
This has been on there for around 5 min now. Do I re-run unrevoked at this point? Do I need to do anything with my phone? What happens if I re-run it and same thing happens?
Thanks.

That happened to me the first time I did it. It worked fine the second. You're ok to run it again.

Nice....it was a success the second time. Thanks.
Now all I have to do is find out what to do from here! lol

You can find info on anything that you might want to do by searching the forums here at xda and by using google. I recommend reading up as much as you can before you start deleting or flashing anything.
The best piece of advice I can give you is to do a nandroid backup before you modify ANYTHING on your phone. That means do one right now so if by chance you screw something up, you can always restore it and be back to where you started. If you don't know what a nandroid is or how to do one, use the search feature here or once again, google.
Good luck and welcome to the xda community

Sorry to jump in on the post but metalhead has been so helpful to how I would like to root. I have searched for nandroid, nandriod backup, and back up nand. None of theme gave a clear path for tutorial. If you could lead me in the right direction I think that this should be made a sticky.
Thanks in advance.

mainstang said:
Sorry to jump in on the post but metalhead has been so helpful to how I would like to root. I have searched for nandroid, nandriod backup, and back up nand. None of theme gave a clear path for tutorial. If you could lead me in the right direction I think that this should be made a sticky.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you know what recovery you flashed? regardless, there are two ways to go about it. 1. turn your phone completely. hold Power and VOL - until the boot menu appears, use volume to move the selection and power to select. pick recovery. nandroid backup.
2. get Rom Manager(market). it has a one-touch button to reboot into recovery. easy peasy.
each recovery is different. Whether you have RA or Clockwork or some other third thing, you will get the same result, you just have to go about it differently.
good luck!!

I'm back post root! However, have some questions that I haven't been able to find answers to.
1) Am I OK to take my phone out of USB debug mode, or does it need to stay like that?
2) Can I re-install HTC sync and will it work with all ROMS?
3) I downloaded ROM Manager and Titanium Backup (both paid). When flashing a new ROM, all settings are gone as well as apps from the market. Is there a way to restore a rom without having to go back and re-download ROM Manager from the market then use it to restore? It takes to darn long to reboot the phone into recovery and restore that way.
Also with Titanium Backup, since it just backs up apps what is the point of doing a backup with it? If a complete image is saved by whichever backup you do, all apps in that image will be restored as well. When would anyone ever need to restore just the apps from before with the same rom?
4) Can I do a batch flash with a custom ROM and a custom theme? Or should I do the ROM first then the theme? I wouldn't think the theme can be applied until the ROM is flashed first. I'm not sure if ROM Manager will do this in a specific order.
Thanks.

CCallahan said:
I'm back post root! However, have some questions that I haven't been able to find answers to.
1) Am I OK to take my phone out of USB debug mode, or does it need to stay like that?
2) Can I re-install HTC sync and will it work with all ROMS?
3) I downloaded ROM Manager and Titanium Backup (both paid). When flashing a new ROM, all settings are gone as well as apps from the market. Is there a way to restore a rom without having to go back and re-download ROM Manager from the market then use it to restore? It takes to darn long to reboot the phone into recovery and restore that way.
Also with Titanium Backup, since it just backs up apps what is the point of doing a backup with it? If a complete image is saved by whichever backup you do, all apps in that image will be restored as well. When would anyone ever need to restore just the apps from before with the same rom?
4) Can I do a batch flash with a custom ROM and a custom theme? Or should I do the ROM first then the theme? I wouldn't think the theme can be applied until the ROM is flashed first. I'm not sure if ROM Manager will do this in a specific order.
Thanks.
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1) i would leave it enabled. it doesn't hurt anything and there are a lot of programs and modifications that use it.
2) in the half dozen roms i've tried, HTC sync does work. i am curious though. what are you using it for?
3) i'm not 100% clear on what you want, but i'll try my best. if all you're wanting to do is restore to a previous rom(for instance, if you flashed a rom to test it out and hate it) as long as you did a nandroid backup BEFORE flashing the rom, you can restore with all your settings and apps in place.
with TB i back up with it in such a way that it preserves all my settings and apps(including PLACEMENT of the apps on my docks and home screens) This is very useful. i'm not really sure why you don't see the significance in TitaniumBackup. it would be an absolute PAIN to restore all your apps from the market. or even better, REMEMBER which apps you had installed after a flash.
4) i would ALWAYS flash a rom first, reboot, check it out to make sure it loads properly. i know it takes a while but it's better to wait, then to try and flash everything at once and frag your phone. it's your phone of course, so do as you wish, but my advice is to flash the rom, reboot, then flash your theme.
good luck!!

Good stuff to know.....thanks.
In response to #2........I'm using HTC sync to sync my contacts/calendar between the phone and Outlook. I do not like using Google apps for this and HTC makes it easy to sync with this program.
In response to #3......You did answer my question. Just wanted to know if there was a faster way to recover (maybe a trick through ROM Manager) that I didn't know about.
To explain more about my Titanium Backup question......now that i think about it I guess if a custom ROM is flashed, one can re-download Titanium and restore all apps/locations on the new ROM setup, which would make things incredibly easier than downloading/placing/sizing apps individually. But, will it also restore widgets with the size/screen placement as well?

CCallahan said:
But, will it also restore widgets with the size/screen placement as well?
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Yessir, it did for me

Are there any "Android for Dummies" manuals or write ups??

Seriously, lol..
I am coming from a CE device and going to android is a little bit of a learning curve.. Not that its harder but its different obviously.
What I am asking basically.. All these guides that are written out talk about things as if we already know them..
Don't get me wrong, they are written great, but I don't know certain lingo.. For example I am really wanting to install a ROM.. Just got my evo a few weeks ago, Rooted it and thats it.. Looking into Roms and reading the instructions, its like "WHATTT??"
Sure they explain how to do it, but they don't explain in detail certain steps.. It happens as many people assume they should know..
For example (and they are all like this)
I am looking at the FRESH'S rom.. Seems like a good Rom from what I read, but looking at the instructions for just the Radio
http://geekfor.me/faq/flash-radio/
2) Boot in to RA and pick “Flash zip from sdcard”
RA?? What is RA??
Before these instructions it says "Don’t flash this unless you have a CDMA Evo 4g"
I am sure most people know what CDMA is, but I don't.. Have no Idea, lol
I am basically hoping there is a guide "FOR IDIOTS"
Thanks all

ra is a recovery, you can have either clockworkmod or amon_ra, they both do the same so its personal choice.
cdma is type of network, ie sprint, verizon, cricket. gsm is the other, ie att etc.
now that your phone is rooted, make a backup before anything else. you boot into recovery by turning the phone off, then give it 5 secs then hold Volume down button and then pressing the power button, when it responds you can let go. wait for img file checks to finish then press volume down once to highlight recovery and press power to select. you will now be in recovery. go into nandroid and make a backup.
you can use rom manager from the market to flash many roms however the fresh and damagecontrol links are currently erroring.
before flashing any roms be sure to wipe data and cache either in recovery if done manually or by checking the box in rom manager

Anyone wanna help a fellow brotha out and make a quick 10 bucks.. Lunch money at least.. Just to call me and maybe walk me through some of it, or atleast verbally explain some things
Paypal will be done right away..
Id really appreciate it..

install rom manager, you can make a backup through it. its an automated app, tell it what to do and it will boot into recovery and do it then reboot again

Have Rom manager.. I just did a "boot into Recovery" I then did a nandroid backup.. But why? I did this with Titanum.. How many back ups do I need? This is where I get confused..
I did a couple things with Titanuim and it took like 600 megs of space, now I am doing what seems like the same thing with nandiod back up?
Now, do I just unzip both the fresh rom and the radio, put it in a folder on my Sdisk, open rom manager, choose manually install or whatever it says, and point it to the unzipped Fresh Rom??
If yes, then how do I do the radio?
THANKS

Also, I know my apps will be gone by doing a root, and I could just download then again,,, (correct??)
What about my contacts and pictures and videos??
THanks

you don't unzip the rom, and you shouldnt need the new radio, put the fresh zip on your sd card and in rom manage tell it to flash it and check wipe data and cache.
you can always redownload your apps from the market, purchased ones stay purchased
no loss of pics or vids. sd card isnt wiped
you can check your current baseband version and if its the same then your already set

fastfed said:
Have Rom manager.. I just did a "boot into Recovery" I then did a nandroid backup.. But why? I did this with Titanum.. How many back ups do I need? This is where I get confused..
I did a couple things with Titanuim and it took like 600 megs of space, now I am doing what seems like the same thing with nandiod back up?
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Titanium will backup your apps and app data too if you want. When flashing a new ROM you can download titanium from the market and then restore all of your apps.
Doing a nandroid backup in essence takes a snapshot of what your phone looks like at that point in time (apps, user preferences, theme, etc) and saves it. At any point later on, after trying different ROMs, changing settings, etc you can revert to that nandroid backup and restore it. Doing so will bring your phone back to that exact state when you performed the nandroid as if you never did any of the changes afterward.

And a lot of your questions can probably be answered in the post linked in my sig.

m4rk0358 said:
Titanium will backup your apps and app data too if you want. When flashing a new ROM you can download titanium from the market and then restore all of your apps.
Doing a nandroid backup in essence takes a snapshot of what your phone looks like at that point in time (apps, user preferences, theme, etc) and saves it. At any point later on, after trying different ROMs, changing settings, etc you can revert to that nandroid backup and restore it. Doing so will bring your phone back to that exact state when you performed the nandroid as if you never did any of the changes afterward.
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Thank you for explaining that.. MAkes sense now..
Also.. You say I don't need a new radio, but the main Fresh Rom post, says I "SHOULD " get the new radio, (which he posted) and install that before or after..

fastfed said:
Also.. You say I don't need a new radio,
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I did?

you would install the radio after, manually in recovery. leave it zipped too, put it in an easy place to get, like the root of the card.

m4rk0358 said:
I did?
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I said it mark, I was assuming OP had all current updates which include the radio

m4rk0358 said:
And a lot of your questions can probably be answered in the post linked in my sig.
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Did you write that? its really the best I have come across.. Thanks!! I am on my way.. Its in the middle of the rom install..
Wish me luck
I still need to find out if I should install the "Recommended" Radio or not..
THANKS GUYS!!

NewZJ said:
I said it mark, I was assuming OP had all current updates which include the radio
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Well.. I have all the current (Sprint/Evo) updates.. But nothing from aftermarket..
Phone just rebooted.. Here we go
Oh one more thing..
If I feel to revert back to stock and use the "nandroid" back up, will it back up the radio I had then too??

Looks Like I am done... That was nice and easy (thanks to Rom manager)
I am now going to install the radio that was recommended.. Can I use Rom manager for that too??

in TitaniumBackup (tiB) ... go to Batch .. Backup all user apps
(i would suggest purchasing tiB. the paid version is MUCH faster and you won't have to click on each app to restore it. i also like that you can create a flashable zip file for your backup. ie: an update.zip file. it's under the the "More" section.)
i would suggest using Amon_RA as your loader. here is the thread to review it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=amon_ra
do a nandroid. (don't forget to copy a nandroid onto your computer once in a while...having ur nandroid exist only on ur sdcard sux if you lose ur phone or ur card melts)
- between ROMs..do a full wipe. (ie: From Fresh to BakedSnack or CM6) just do it. it will save you stress and irritation. it will also help you streamline your recovery process and develop overall familiarity with the system.
- when upgrading a ROM (ie: Fresh 3.1 to Fresh 3.1.1 or 3.2) usually you can just wipe your Cache and DalvikCache (always read the FirstPost of your ROM ... some times you need to full wipe)
- Flashing a kernel can have significant impacts on your device. always flash Cache and DalvickCache. always have a good nandriod ready. always be plugged in or have >50% battery. always in this case means...not technically "Required", but don't cry to me if something goes awry.
the tiB will restore your applications but not settings. some apps like launcherPRO OR adw.Launcher or SMSbacup+ etc will allow you to export your settings. then you simply import your settings when needed. usually works quite well.
the nandroid is more like a 'Ghost Image' we use on computers. it will allow you to recover your devices almost 100% to the point it was when the image was taken. similar to tiB but diferent. tiB backups up the apps. nandroid backs up the whole system.
check this thread for Radios... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
yes, you will flash the radio zips in the recovery console as well
this is a combo zip and should work fine http://www.mediafire.com/file/ry3k8....00.09.01_WiMAX_26023_R01_PRI_NV_1.77_003.zip

OK.. Now that I have FRESH ROM.. I would like to get a theme.. Right? Isn't this what most people do after a Root,Rom,Radio, Theme??
Thanks

Umm this is not good.. where are all my contacts? I was under the impression they would stay.. How do I get them back? I did a nandroid back up and a Titanium too.. Where did they go? Or should I just sync to my computer again?
Thanks

if your contacts are synced to gmail they will appear shortly after sync, if you have them on your computer you can sync them that way
once the radio is current you don't have to update it again, it won't be downgraded with flashing roms

[Q] Titanium Backup Not Freezing?

OK, the preface:
1. Rooted the EVO 4G phone with Unrevoked3.
2. It worked, ClockworkMod Recovery is in place - phone says S-OFF on hboot. I did a nand backup successfully.
3. Installed Wireless Tether, works fine.
4. Purchased and installed Titanium Backup Pro - it said I needed Busybox, downloaded it. Everything works fine, did a full backup with it.
5. I like HTC's Sense UI.
Titanium Backup Pro starts fine, reports everything as "OK" - that I'm rooted, the super user app runs - all looks good. It's behaving as its rooted just fine. I went through the app list and started freezing apps like Amazon MP3, Sprint NFL, and all the other bloated crap that comes from Sprint with this phone.
The problem is - that when I reboot the phone, and go to Advanced Task Killer Free - things like FM Radio, Amazon MP3, News, etc - are showing as running. The Freeze didn't freeze these things - they are still launching.
I'm trying to keep it "just rooted" -- it's all new to me, and I'd rather not have to fart with special ROMs or radios, kernels, etc - I'm old, I'll brick the damn thing. Currently I'm armed with the bookmark to unroot with my RUU PC36IMG.ZIP and some unrevoked-s-on.zip, and that's about it.
So - any help here? How come when I freeze these things, the system still launches them on bootup?

I honestly haven't messed with the "freeze" part of Titanium, but I use an app called "Bloat Freezer" from the market that works perfect. If you dont mind spending a couple bucks, it is well worth the money in my opinion
Heres the link thru AppBrian, its on sale

First suggestion get rid of the advanced task killer - it isn't needed.
Secondly, one of the main reasons to root is to remove the sprint bloatware; you could do it through adb, but I am guessing you will think that is too hard. I thought you could uninstall the bloatware using titantium backup which would be easy.
If you can't uninstall them instead of freezing them, the easiest thing would probably be to flash a custom rom. If you want a stock feel that is very fast with no sprint bloatware - download and install MikFroYo 4.5.

Heaterz16 said:
First suggestion get rid of the advanced task killer - it isn't needed.
Secondly, one of the main reasons to root is to remove the sprint bloatware; you could do it through adb, but I am guessing you will think that is too hard. I thought you could uninstall the bloatware using titantium backup which would be easy.
If you can't uninstall them instead of freezing them, the easiest thing would probably be to flash a custom rom. If you want a stock feel that is very fast with no sprint bloatware - download and install MikFroYo 4.5.
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I've been reading that if I remove the apps, I run some risk of OTA updates failing or some such. Is that not such a big deal, after all?
I feel confident about rooting and unrooting, reading over those steps a dozen times over. Not so much about custom ROMs and kernels. I read about radio keys possibly getting dorked, making sure you update radios and some other stuff - it starts to get a bit overwhelming - clearing cache, data, dalvik (wtf ever that is), certain features not working (fm radio, 4g, wimax, etc). As it is now, I've managed to root, do a nandroid backup with ClockworkMod Recovery, and a Titanium Backup backup - i feel confident with that.
I really do like the stock Evo 4G - just don't want any of that bloat running. There's no reason Amazon MP3 or Sprint TV should ever want to fire up at random times.
If it was easy to flip into some other ROM and still maintain my stock look, I'd be happy to start researching it. I read some other one was decent too - some Warm TwoPointTwo or something?
I'd like to keep Sense, the basic stock look - and get rid of the bloat.

Like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
I started reading and my head started spinning with stuff about mods to the MikFroyo 4.5 ROM. NO CLUE how to add any of that or tweak it. Heck, not even a real clue on how to install MikFroyo safely. Is it just a matter of dropping some ZIP on the root of SD card, go to the ClockworkMod and update something or other? I guess I have much more reading ahead of me.
One question I do have -- when I do a backup with the ClockworkMod recovery -- is that everything? Is that my "safe checkpoint" - so if I screw something up, I can restore from that point?
I guess if I biff it entirely, I can always roll back to unrooted stock with that PC36IMG.ZIP and unrevoked-s-off.zip file.

It is a bit overwhelming, I would highly recommend running MikFroyo 4.5 - it is pretty stock feel with some extra eye candy and a whole bunch of mods that make it very speedy.
There are so many links in that thread so, here is the direct link to download MikFroyo 4.5: http://www.mediafire.com/?4v1tz1y3f0nwgwa
1.Download that file to your computer
2.Connect phone, select dropdown and enable usb disk drive
3.On computer right-click the mikfroyo file you downloaded and send it to your phone (i.e. - whatever drive your computer list it as, maybe E:\)
4.That will put the Rom file (which is a .zip file) on the ROOT of your sdcard [Root - meaning the file is not located in any folders on the sdcard]
5. Change usb connection to charge only
6.Boot into recovery
7.Make a full backup of your current Rom (Probably called Backup/Restore Menu in Recovery)
8. AFTER you make a backup, you are still in recovery - now select wipe Data/Factory Reset
9. After that wipe is complete, select wipe cache/dalvik-cache
10. Now, in recovery go back a menu or so and select Flash zip from sdcard, find the mikfroyo rom file you put on the sdcard and select it, Yes, to flash it.
11. Once it is finished, select reboot system now in your recovery
12. Be very patient while booting - can take 5 mins or more sometimes.
13. Once booted, update google info and then go to market and download Titantium Backup and restore the apps you want that you orginally backed up.
That is a very detailed step by step.
Note: Do NOT try to flash anything with battery less than 30%

Wifflepig said:
I've been reading that if I remove the apps, I run some risk of OTA updates failing or some such. Is that not such a big deal, after all?
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NEVER take an OTA update after Root, it could brick your phone.
It isn't a big deal if you remove system apps and it messes something up assuming you have a backup that you can restore through your recovery.

Wifflepig said:
One question I do have -- when I do a backup with the ClockworkMod recovery -- is that everything? Is that my "safe checkpoint" - so if I screw something up, I can restore from that point?
I guess if I biff it entirely, I can always roll back to unrooted stock with that PC36IMG.ZIP and unrevoked-s-off.zip file.
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I don't recommend Clockwork, many people have issues with it and I don't use it so I am not sure, but some versions of Clockwork don't backup everything (which might include 4g keys, etc)
I recommend this recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Read through this rooting guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
See step 6, this will backup your 4G unique keys:
6A) REQUIRED RSA BACKUP This will back up your RSA keys just in case something goes wrong in that department. You should still be in your command window inside the shell with a #. (The following came from this thread)
mkdir -p /sdcard/nandroid/RSA-PR-BACKUP
cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/nandroid/RSA-PR-BACKUP/wimax.img
This saves it in a file that can actually be restored. This next step is another type of backup just for good measure
busybox sed -n '/BEGIN CERTIFICATE/,$p' /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/rsa_OEM.key
This will dump the RSA keys to a text file on your SD Card named rsa_OEM.key
Mine was about 4575 KB in size, but the size could vary. Go ahead and switch the phone's USB connection over to "Disk Drive" and then browse to your SD Card and verify that the file rsa_OEM.key is indeed on the card.

Heaterz16 said:
NEVER take an OTA update after Root, it could brick your phone.
It isn't a big deal if you remove system apps and it messes something up assuming you have a backup that you can restore through your recovery.
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How the heck do you block OTA updates?

how to back up all internal memary
i use titanium backup how to back up internal software and how to restore tham

Also - I already rooted with Unrevoked3 and it put the ClockworkMod Recovery on the Evo 4G (it's hardware 0003). Everything *seems* to be working fine.
If I decide to go back to unrooted (s-on and the pc36img.zip for my phone) - do I need to worry about my wimax RSA keys at all, or can I just flash s-on then the PC36IMG zip and be back to square one?

Attached to the message is a copy of my nandroid backup from clockwork - it sure seems like it backed up the wimax image for me.
Also, just to be safe, I did do the ADB shell to make an RSA_oem.key file - it was 4575kb, in my root folder.
I swear, it sure seems like things are fine. I'm a little apphrehensive about trying to flopswitch to a different recovery tool if things are working as expected. I fired up the 4G antenna, and it came on and tried searching for 4G (I am not in a 4G zone at the moment).
I still have one remaining question - how do I block OTA updates from Sprint, to avoid them hosing the phone? I didn't see anything obvious in the Update Phone bits.

You should be fine running Clockwork - I just recommend Amon.
Glad to see you backed up your RSA keys and I agree it looks like you have a good Wimax.img. You only need either of these if somehow flashing another Rom messes up your 4g - you should be ok, just good to have just in case...
As for blocking OTA updates I haven't had any OTA updates since I have had the EVO, but they don't auto-install, you can just decline them if the message ever pops up.
As long as 4g keys are intact when/if you want to unroot, then all you have to do is run S-on and then restore the ruu as you stated.
Sounds like you definitely have your 4g keys and wimax intact, but you can always download Wimax Keys Checker from the Market for good measure as well to check.
Glad to hear everything looks good - are you going to try MikFroyo?

Heaterz16 said:
You should be fine running Clockwork - I just recommend Amon.
Glad to hear everything looks good - are you going to try MikFroyo?
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when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.

Wifflepig said:
when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.
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I just got a serious lawl from reading that...soon my young user. But if you're on a sense rom, just don't accept the OTA, and if you're on aosp, it doesn't even ask you.

Wifflepig said:
when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.
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Haha, well you already did the hard part, rooting. Chances of bricking it now are about slim to none, unless you pull the battery during a flash of a rom. Worst case scenario, you get a bootloop because you forgot to wipe first or something, which is easily fixable.
If you want to read up on his thread, I would read starting on last page and read backwards. Otherwise, you will read all the issues in the original version of MikFroyo, the current 4.5 is virtually flawless.
Btw, I am glad to see you are willing to read before you do things - most people don't.

I'll probably tackle a custom ROM (MikFroyo 4.5) next week. From what I'm reading, it's all about staging a ZIP or image to the root, and using the boot tool to flash it into the system. That, and be careful about radio keys, and the like. Seems uncomplicated enough.
Thanks to both of you for the help, I do appreciate it a lot. I've not been impressed with TitaniumBackup's freezing - a buncha junk still fires off on reboot of the phone - I'll try the AppBrain one here, I think. TB works good for backing crap up, though. As far as I can tell - haven't needed to restore anything yet - but it does definitely make a crapton of files in the backup process, so that's a good thing - I guess.

[Q] Evo 4G Doesn't Like to Boot in New ROMs

Most of this info may be extraneous, but I'll throw it in here just in case.
A few days ago, I decided to root my Evo 4G from the stock, 2.2 OS (HTC Sense?) using the Unrevoked website (using a PC running XP). It worked fine and got me rooted. Trouble began to arise when I attempted to install new ROMs such as CM-6 and Salvage. I decided to fork out a few bucks and pay for the ROM Manager Pro app, thinking that it would save me considerable hassle. After downloading the most recent CyanogenMod 7.0.0-RC2 through the app, I selected the "Install Gapps as well" option but did NOT check "Wipe Data and Cache" before letting the app do its work of installing and flashing and whatever for me. Upon completion of the installation, my phone then automatically rebooted normally, but became stuck on the boot image of the android on the skateboard with the spinning arrow. I let that sit for about 6 hours (I went to bed) thinking it was just first-time setup before I battery-pulled and booted into recovery, restored my original settings, and started over. This time I did everything the same except remembered to check "Wipe Data and Cache," as an online tutorial told me I ought to when switching from stock to another ROM, and it installed and booted correctly. I ran CM-7 for a day before deciding to try out a different ROM, downloading and installing it through the same interface, ROM Manager Pro. Everything went well until it got stuck, again, at the boot image. After about 30 min I battery-pulled and tried to restore back to CM-7, only to be greeted by another endless boot image. I was able to restore back to my original backup, but am now back to square one. What the heck am I doing wrong?
EDIT: That original backup I mentioned was made immediately after rooting the phone in preparation to install CM-7.
Sorry my technical knowledge is grossly lacking, I just got into this game. Patience and any help is GREATLY appreciated.

When switching from one rom to another, it is always important to remember to wipe data and cache. There are a few rare cases that it is not necessary to do this, but I really recommend that if you are just starting out, wipe them both for good measure until you learn enough that you can tell when you can get away with not wiping. Also, I know that one common problem that people experience with Rom Manager is that Unrevoked contains the Amon_RA recovery image, and Rom Manager is designed to with with the Clockwordmod recovery. In Rom Manager, you should be able to see which one you are currently using, and you should also be able to use Rom Manager to download and flash the latest Clockworkmod recovery. I too use Rom Manager as a convenient way of making sure that my rom is up to date, and to download roms, but I recommend that when you want to change roms, you do it by booting into recovery mode, and performing the wipe and install manually, as I have found that this method will help prevent errors like boot loops. I hope this helps!
P.S. Feel free to PM me if you ever need any help.
Sent from my DESTROYED Evo using XDA Premium app

So, for example, if I wanted to restore back to my CM-7 backup, would I want to boot into recovery and just restore to the backup or re-flash the ROM, then boot into recovery and try to restore it? I'm still getting the endless boot image.
Oh, and I am running clockworkmod, as per the instructions for ROM Manager.
Thanks for the quick reply!

Move CM7-RC2.zip and the gapps.zip (or whatever its name; ex: filename.zip) to the root of your SD card by plugging it into your computer via USB and mounting it as a drive. Go ahead and exit all that.
Turn off your phone.
Hold volume down + power.
Go to Recovery.
Wipe the following: data/factory reset, cache, (in Advanced, accessed from same menu) wipe dalvik.
Go back.
Install .zip from SD.
Choose your .zip(s) [CM7, Gapps] from your card, flash, and presto!
I'm not too experienced with ROM Manager as I do not use it whatsoever, but I know the above stated method should work perfectly.
Furthermore,
I'm not sure if a format_all.zip should be used here with CM7. If someone who knows would like to chime in about this, that'd be great.

totalanonymity said:
Move CM7-RC2.zip (or whatever it's name; ex: filename.zip) to the root of your SD card by plugging it into your computer via USB and mounting it as a drive. Go ahead and exit all that.
Turn off your phone.
Hold volume down + power.
Go to Recovery.
Wipe the following: data/factory reset, cache, (in Advanced, accessed from same menu) wipe dalvik.
Go back.
Install .zip from SD.
Choose your .zip from your card, flash, and presto!
I'm not too experienced with ROM Manager as I do not use it whatsoever, but I know the above stated method should work perfectly.
Furthermore,
I'm not sure if a format_all.zip should be used here with CM7. If someone who knows would like to chime in about this, that'd be great.
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This is the way I would flash any roms that you want from here on out.
I have used CM7 and have not had to use the format.zip from calk, so I don't think it is absolutely necessary, but it probably wouldn't hurt.
Sent from my DESTROYED Evo using XDA Premium app

I recommend flashing the format all zip whenever switching ROMs. It completely formats the various partitions and leaves a blank slate for the new ROM to be installed. I also recommend using ROM Manager to flash Amon_Ra recovery and do everything manually instead of using ROM Manager. People seem to have a lot less problems with Amon, and I have never had any issues flashing ROMs or kernels or anything with it.
You won't be able to restore a Clockwork backup with it but it never hurts to just flash a new ROM and restore your Titanium backups, assuming that you made them.

Wow, thanks all for the fast replies!
Ok, I now have Destroyer installed and working (finally!), but I am experiencing the apparently common black-on-black text box problem. I downloaded the .zip to be flashed to fix this, but am not sure how to proceed. Do I just do the exact same thing as flashing a new ROM entirely or is there something special I need to do to let the phone know that it is an update?

RossGoldenstein said:
Wow, thanks all for the fast replies!
Ok, I now have Destroyer installed and working (finally!), but I am experiencing the apparently common black-on-black text box problem. I downloaded the .zip to be flashed to fix this, but am not sure how to proceed. Do I just do the exact same thing as flashing a new ROM entirely or is there something special I need to do to let the phone know that it is an update?
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Not sure with ROM Manager but you can flash that from recovery the same way you flash a ROM. I'm sure there is an option in ROM Manager to flash it, I just couldn't tell you where. Do not wipe anything before flashing that though. Only wipe when flashing ROMs and kernels.

Go back into Recovery and flash that .zip the exact same way you flashed the ROM. Minus the data wipe.
Others: Does he wipe cache/dalvik as well? I've seen some posts say to do that when flashing mods that are flashable .zip and some don't. I've done both ways and seen no negative consequences (as of yet).

Yeah, that last post was dumb, I clicked "Submit" before I tried anything on my own. Flashing it the exact same way minus data wipe worked perfectly, though the prediction boxes for input in the market app (when you hit "search" and start typing, the things that drop down to give suggestions) still appear to be black on black. Bleh.
Also, the Dalvic wipe before installing was a good idea; I don't know for sure if it made a difference but a good habit to get into.
EDIT: By the way, this has got to be the least grammatical/spelling errors in a forum thread I've ever seen. I think I may like this site...

Wiping the cache and dalvik most likely isn't necessary but it can never hurt.

RossGoldenstein said:
Yeah, that last post was dumb, I clicked "Submit" before I tried anything on my own. Flashing it the exact same way minus data wipe worked perfectly, though the prediction boxes for input in the market app (when you hit "search" and start typing, the things that drop down to give suggestions) still appear to be black on black. Bleh.
Also, the Dalvic wipe before installing was a good idea; I don't know for sure if it made a difference but a good habit to get into.
EDIT: By the way, this has got to be the least grammatical/spelling errors in a forum thread I've ever seen. I think I may like this site...
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I'm really new to this stuff myself (rooted for the first time ~2 days ago) and so I'm unsure how to further fix the blacked out predictions in the Market. Perhaps you could try contacting those within the thread of the ROM you downloaded, specifically citing that you installed the initial blacked out fix so that they don't redirect you back to the fix you've already applied, testing your patience and furthering your wait for perfection.
Aye, this site has got to be full of some of the most fluent English-speaking persons I've found on the internet.

[Q] Opinions and Advice for first time EVO root.

Hi all!
I have recently joined the forums because I have heard that you guys are the best when it comes to smart phones including rooting and what not. I have scoured the forums looking for direct answers on how to root my EVO 4G and what I need to use for the best and easiest root. I work as a Network Administrator so I am familiar different technologies and different O/S's including many variations of Linux.
So, moving forward, I want to root my EVO. I have installed all of the latest updates released by both Sprint and HTC. But I have seem so many different ways to do this most notably using Unrevoked. But I've read in the forums that Unrevoked may not work well with the Kernel or Software I have?
I found the leaked Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 image (I believe it was an image) on the forums here and thought about using that one but with so many different ways to "root" an EVO I have no idea on where to begin. I know that many have posted about this before and I hate to be "that guy" whom posts it again but I truly need some expert advice here.
First off, which root method should I use? Secondly, which custom ROM should I use or should I use a custom ROM? I backup my data and apps with myBackup Pro by the way.
And here are the exact specs for my phone:
Software Information:
Android Version:
2.2 (Froyo of course)
Baseband Version:
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version:
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
htc-kernel"ampersand"and18-2 #15
Build Number:
3.70.651.1
Browser Version:
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version:
60677
If I'm posting in the wrong forum please do not hesitate to move my thread, I will not be offended like some people are. Lol!
Thanks guys!

Use unrevoked, it should root all versions of the Evo. There were compatibility issues at one point, but I believe that has all been fixed.
You will need to uninstall HTC Sync if you have it installed. If you haven't installed it, do so & then uninstall it. You will also need to install the modified hboot drivers if you're using Windows. You can get those from the unrevoked site. Make sure you have usb debugging turned on before you start the root process & that you've uninstalled anything that syncs with your phone - Doubletwist for one example. If you have problems, disable your antivirus as well.
If unrevoked works for you, I would make sure to do a nandroid backup via recovery before you do anything else. Unrevoked flashes Clockworkmod Recovery. I prefer Amon Ra, but whichever you use is up to you. You can switch recoveries through Rom Manager.
Also make sure you've backed up your RSA keys. Clockwork does this automatically with each backup. You can choose to include/exclude with AR, or do a separate backup of only your wimax keys.
The new GingerSense roms, while neat, are probably not a good idea for a first rom... or even a daily driver. They're going to be really buggy.
If you need anything else or another method to root, I'll be around. Good luck & have fun!

Sweet!
Thanks a ton PlainJane!
I won't be able to try this until tomorrow but rest assured I will try and most likely succeed with your advice. Speaking of Nandroid, I haven't been able to find it on the Android Market, unless I'm over looking it. So if you were doing it, which recovery/backup method would you use and where can you find it if not in the Android Market?
Again, thank you so much and I will probably wait until I get Nandroid or one of the others before I proceed. Hopefully that will be tomorrow.
Regards!
PAinguIN

Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.

plainjane said:
Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.
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PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN

PAinguINx said:
PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN
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Unrevoked automatically installs ClockworkMod Recovery, so no need to do that. If you want to use Amon Ra - I think it is the more popular, easy to use option - you will have to flash it over CWM. You can do this easily by downloading Rom Manager from the market & choosing "flash alternate recovery". Other functions of Rom Manager won't work without Clockwork, but trust me, learning to do everything manually will really help you out.
Since it seems that you're a little confused on this point - you only have one recovery at a time. For the Evo, there's ClockworkMod & Amon Ra. You have to have one or the other to boot into recovery, otherwise you'll get a black screen with a red triangle in the corner.
If for some reason flashing AR doesn't work from Rom Manager, let me know & I'll walk you through the manual installation. If you just want to learn that method, I'm all for that too. I just don't want to confuse you with that information unless you need it.
You cannot do a nandroid backup until you root the phone. It's just one more limitation of not being rooted. You have to have a custom recovery installed, and I don't think this is possible without being rooted. You can go ahead & do the backup once you've rooted, just be sure to switch recoveries first if that's something you plan on doing. I'm not saying Clockwork is bad, I just recommend AR for multiple reasons... one of them being that Amon Ra supports both edify & amend scripting. With newer versions of ClockworkMod, you can only flash edify scripted zips, older versions are amend only. If you flash enough you'll run into a problem with this one-or-the-other way of doing things.
Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. I found that watching videos on YouTube helped me feel more at ease before my first time rooting and my first time flashing. Once I saw how easy it was, I felt more comfortable doing it. Read the stickies and any kind of guides you can find in the Evo forums. I've learned a lot just by reading the Evo Q&A section.
If you want to pm me with any more questions, go ahead. You can ask them in the thread too, if you want... either way.
I'd like to hear how everything goes for you. Most people are happy with how easy unrevoked is, but a few do have problems. Anyway, good luck!

PlainJane,
Well, I've installed the modified HBOOT drivers successfully. I have ran UnrEVOked3 and am now in the process of creating my first NANDROID backup. I just stuck with ClockWorkMod because once I actually ran UnrEVOked3 and it finished it reboot my EVO into recovery mode. So rather than rebooting my phone again and flashing Amon Ra (and possibly running into any problems) I just stuck with CWM. I may regret this later but at this point I am just glad that my phone hasn't been "bricked". Lol!
It's still running the NANDROID backup right now. Now I need to clarify what needs to be done when that has finished. I guess I need to flash a custom ROM of my choosing right? Will I do this using ROMmanager or do I need to d/l one from the net somewhere first?
Also, you mention something about wiping the data on my phone aside from the SD Card. I only need to do this just before I flash a "New ROM" correct? Or should I go ahead and do this now?
Anyway, it looks like "so far so good" in my case. Thanks to you that is! ; ) And the backup has completed, I'm going to see if I can boot into my phone now.
Oh, and this is what I am seeing in CWM:
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.6.0.1
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- backup and restore
- mounts and storage
- advanced
- +++++Go Back+++++
So that's what you see with ClockWorkMod these days.
Now, back to what I was saying. Do I choose a custom ROM now or am I good with what I have? Also, about wiping, that's only done when I flash a new ROM?
Thanks yet again PlainJane!
PAinguIN

I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol

fikusunc said:
I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol
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Thanks!
So what ROM/Kernel is the best or coolest to have these days? I already tried to uninstall some factory installed apps with no luck. I also tried to use the "Root" features in JuiceDefender and when I allowed the app to scan to see if my Kernel/Rom supported CPU controlling it said that it was not supported. So I certainly need to get a new ROM/Kernel.
Perhaps you guide will hold the secret!
Thanks guy!
PAinguIN

yw, check out this site. This person put together a page that makes looking for roms very easy. http://evo4g.roms-db.com/
As far as what is the "best" or "coolest", that just depends on what you want. I basically wanted a rom that that was stable and had hotspot and tethering enabled and working. I think that I have had almost every rom that is on above link and I finally decided on sticking with the Eternal Prophecy rom. I kept going back to it so now im sticking with it until I get more knowledge to build my own.
I dont know enough about Kernals to flash one or make modifications, yet.
to uninstall some apps that come default on a rom, I use "root explorer".
just check out the section of the file called:
######## TO REMOVE BLOATING HTC / SPRINT APPS, FOLLOW THE STEPS HERE OR KEEP READING ########
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So I downloaded the Eternal Prophecy v5.7 ROM. Do I place this in the root of my SD card? Also, can I flash this rom using ROM Manager or do I have to do it through ClockWorkMod recovery? Do I have to wipe my phone beforehand if I use ROM Manager?
One other question, how do I choose a Kernel and what is the benefit of using a different Kernel. For instance, if I use this Kernel "Netarchy 4.3.4 CFS HAVS SBC More Aggressive" what will it do for me? And do I have to have a custom kernel for a custom rom?
Thanks!

By the way, your guide was helpful. I like what has been done in the Eternal Prophecy Rom, I haven't installed it yet but based on the change notes I've read it sounds great. Although I don't see why someone would want to remove Adobe Reader. I have to work with PDF files a great deal and I also read e-books in PDF format as well. I guess I'll just install it after I flash the ROM.
Thanks again,
PAinguIN

Wow, I missed a lot overnight apparently, hah.
First off, don't wipe data unless you're about to flash! Otherwise you won't have any data. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm not familiar with the Rom you chose, but I'm sure it'll be fine. The most popular roms are usually on the first couple of pages of the Evo Development forums, but popularity shouldn't be the deciding factor. Run through the thread for the rom & just make sure it's stable & people aren't having a lot of problems. It's usually best to choose a rom that's up to date, but I stuck with CM6 until CM7 nightly 20-something was out because I liked how stable it was & didn't feel the need to jump on the Gingerbread bandwagon.
Okay, since you downloaded the ROM externally, you can't flash through Rom Manager... I think. I've never used it so I'm not sure. But for learning purposes, go ahead and do it manually. Read the thread for the rom - at least the first few posts, not the whole thing - and make sure there isn't anything else that's required before flashing. If you don't need anything else, you can go ahead and flash the rom by itself. You can flash kernels, etc later. Now I'm not exactly sure where things are in Clockwork (thanks for showing me the first level, it sounds odd compared to what I'm used to), but you need to wipe cache, dalvik cache & data. I have heard that dalvik is under advanced, but I don't remember if the rest is under wipe data/factory reset or not.
After you've wiped, choose install zip from sd card. All of the zip files are at the bottom, so it's easiest to hit the volume up button to take you to the bottom unstead of going down from the top. If I remember right, Clockwork makes you choose yes in the middle of a bunch of noes. I think that's what I miss the least about CWM, lol. When it finishes flashing just choose to reboot, and hopefully you'll be done with that ugly boot animation & sound from Sprint :]
Okay, on to kernels. Most likely all you need is a CFS kernel. BFS kernels give you better quadrant scores, but quadrant scores are just a competition for teenage boys. You can use them for testing purposes, but take them with a grain of salt. There's a great kernel starter guide. I have it saved, but just search for kernel starter guide & you should be able to find it. With a havs kernel, you can't change your cpu speed without interfering with the kernel. Havs kernels do a good job of undervolting to save battery when the phone isn't in use, eliminating the need for SetCPU or anything similar. You will still be able to use the app, but doing so will kind of fight the kernel. Make sure you choose an AOSP kernel for AOSP & Sense for Sense. Also take into account if you're on 2.2 or 2.3, but this mostly matters for AOSP right now. You do not need a custom kernel, every rom comes with one. You can choose a different one to suit your needs.
I'm sure I missed something, so if I think of anything else, I'll let you know

Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!

PAinguINx said:
Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!
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This was more of a curiosity question to be honest with you. I have copied the ROM and Calkulin's combo update to the root of my SD card and am performing my NANDROID right now. I decided to try out "Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo" ROM instead of Eternal Prophecy. I will probably flash a Cyanogen ROM later and perform a NANDROID of that as well so I can switch back and forth.
I really appreciate all of your help PlainJane, oh, and Fikusunc too!
This is truly the best forum for Android/Linux development and modifications. I'll spread the word about XDA to my friends for sure. ; )
Still curious about that Rom Manager thing though...strange....

I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.

Wow! Quick learner! It took me some time to wrap my head around all this stuff! You had good coaches also. Good luck and have fun with your "new" Evo!

New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful

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New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful
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this is actually not correct. wimax works with most roms. EVEN CM7 NOW! it took 4 months for 2 guys to reverse engineer closed-source wimax drivers to the evo. so now you have 'MOAR GEES' as we call it, on cm7. even if you flash a rom w/o 4g, you'l still have it when you come back to one that does.
btw, SAVE YOUR RSA KEYS! have at least one nandroid bakcup wiht wimax.img so that if you keys (the way into sprint's 4g network) gets corrupted, you aren't sol.

plainjane said:
I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.
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Painjane,
Actually I think I'm going to stick with your advice and handle everything manually from now own. While I could probably reflash recovery through ROM Manager and get it working properly recovery does work. So as they say, if it's not broken don't fix it right? Lol!
I'll keep ROM Manager though, since I've paid for it, and possibly try to use it when I flash my next ROM. Just to see what happens.
One of the guys posted in the thread something about how fast I caught on and that I had a good coach. Thanks! I think I did catch on pretty quickly, and yes I had a very good coach. Lol!
I've actually owned my EVO since its day of release. I pre-ordered that device once I heard of it and did my research. I originally wanted the Nexus One but settled on the EVO as the NEXUS One was only available through T-Mobile or something. Nothing against T-Mobile, they just don't offer good service in my area.
Anyway, it took me this long to buildup the courage to finally root my phone. The last thing I wanted was a $600 paper weight you know? Lol! But as smooth as this process went I would recommend this process to anyone.
And PlainJane, Myn's is working great! It has an amazing interface and is just plain (no pun intended) sweet!. Here's something for everyone else out there which I did differently.
Instead of wiping ALL of the data on my phone I only wiped the dalvik and cache instead of doing a complete wipe. This way everything was still setup exactly the way I had it before the flash. i.e. E-Mail, Contacts, SMS logs, music, photos, etc. Moreover, wireless tether works great, Wimaxx still turns on but we don't have 4G around here so I've never been able to use it. Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS work just fine too.
In fact, there is nothing that doesn't work the way it should. So, in my opinion, wiping your device of all of it's data is not necessary but I did not develop the ROMS so check with the devs before doing anything out of the norm.
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PAinguIN