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I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!
normalnix said:
I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!
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You will know if it is rooted cos you wont be able to pull it out the ground lol
Only jokin if you phone is rooted you will have a program in your apps called super user.
hope this helps
I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!
normalnix said:
I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!
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Yeah thats the one your phone is rooted
Ok. That answers the first part I guess then. Any ideas how I get to Froyo? I can download the update, but it always fails to do it's thing.
Do I have to restore the phone or what? And how?
is your phone branded in any way? even a start up logo ?
and where can you download the update? from system software updates on your phone?
There's no branding on the phone, box or software. I can download the update via software updates.
PS. Thanks for the help so far!
If you can download it from software updates go for it froyo here we go,
no branding is a good sign
Just try updating via the update manager as that should work.
LOL
That's the problem. It doesn't work!
Same thing with me....
I bought a Telstra Branded Handset. Had a company root and install a generic rom. (Telstra handset because it works on ATT 3G.) This morning, the phone told me that I had an Android Software Update (Version 2.2). The phone downloaded it, but wouldn't install. I imagine because the dang thing is rooted.
I will wait a few days for someone to offer a desire rom with 2.2 and HTC sense.
Is there an easy way to restore the handset to it's original software so I can upgrade from there?
Look for the Unrooting guide in the (sticky) guides collection. I believe it just involves flashing a stock rom. But currently you won't be able to root your phone after official OTA froyo update, since it flashes your hboot too. Alternatively you can flash a rooted froyo ROM without hboot.
Edit: Look in development forum for the sticky guide. The place to be for topics like this; it makes them obsolete.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Many thanks!
For further info, see 'How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock' in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4
It took a bit of time to download all the updates, but I got there in the end.
My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?
jontokyo said:
My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?
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Even if you are rooted, you will have READ ONLY access to /system due to NAND protection. You can only write to /system from recovery.
Regards,
Dave
hi
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance
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i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance
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2nd post. If you have a superuser app, you are rooted.
Hi, I am new to the andriod platform an i have just got a HTC Desire with Virgin Mobile, PLEASE BE GENTLE.....
It does not seem to be sim locked as i have tried an Orange sim in the phone and it works.
I have seen a Desire with Froyo on it and want to upgrade my phone.
After trying all the guides on various forums i still cannot upgrade and VM is not offering the update OTA.
when trying the Goldcard method I get error wrong bootloader, when trying with the OTA named update.zip using recovery it also throws up an error and exits.
What i have done now is rooted the phone using unrevoked3 method which has worked.
i want to have a stock 2.2 phone, not bothered about keeping the root, if i put the OTA update.zip on the sd card (or goldcard as i have created one) and flash using the clockworkmod recovery which is now on my phone will this work or should i update the radio first and will i be able to get OTA updates in future ???
my desire is:
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband version 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2
Software number 1.23.351.1
Bootloader 0.80.0000
when it boots it has the VM logo but apart from that there is no other branding on the phone.
Obviously i dont want to brick the phone, i have done lots of reading and i am still unsure of how i can get my phone updated.
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help....
Your phone is rooted?
Simply download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Which is a rooted but everything else is the same as stock 2.2. That way you'll have the option to use custom roms etc.
If you need step by step instructions to flashing as the guide on that page isn't so detailed let me know.
SavageCore said:
Your phone is rooted?
Simply download: h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Which is a rooted but everything else is the same as stock 2.2. That way you'll have the option to use custom roms etc.
If you need step by step instructions to flashing as the guide on that page isn't so detailed let me know.
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Thanks for the reply , if i keep root i was thinking of trying this rom
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
i take it since my desire is rooted and i am on boot 0.80.000 i will just need to flash radio first , then flash the rom??
will it matter that my desire is possibly classed as branded and has the operators custom firmware on looking at the software number???
do i just rename the radio to update.zip and put on sd card and flash with clockworkmod , then do the same with the rom ???
should i use the goldcard when doing the above or will any sd card be ok??
thanks again for the advice....
Update....
Took the plunge and installed radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 and then the Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo) ROM [Market issue fixed].
All went well but the phone was running slow.
Did a factory reset and wipe in clockworkmod and reinstalled the rom.
restored my apps using mybackup , got contacts back off google account and all is good now.
I been going round here and the web wondering how to do this. I have
hboot 0.83.0001
I made a gold card which seems to have worked out fine so far but no idea where to go from here about updating my phone from 2.1 3 network branded to a non branded firmware. I am not interested in any custom firmware or anything I don't care about extra apps I just want stable 2.2.
I was in exactly the same position as yourself, had a 3 branded desire with same bootloader.
I made a goldcard also but found I didn't need it, I used unrevoked3 to root the phone and install clockwork mod from which I installed a update.zip patch and then a rooted untouched 2.2 Rom and now the phone is still rooted, unbranded and running 2.2 like a charm. Sorry if this explanation is a bit vague.
The Rom I used was 2.09.405.8-update-bravo-stock-rooted-busybox-withradio-signed.zip
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Boot your phone is rooted something I am not interested in really as I want Offical 2.2 unbranded. If I have to root temp to get there I don't mind going hrough the process providing its safe enough. I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
Vhero said:
I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
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Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
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blizzard authenticator can detect if your phone is rooted and will not boot Blizzard say its for security reasons but I read on net it's not just this app that refuses to boot if it detects a root.
Go here:
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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Thanks for this will probably try later I don't understand why I will need the gold card for future updates though??
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
Thank you all for this most informative thread, and apologies for the minor hijack.
I have a tmobile branded desire and would also like to be running the stock 2.2 with sense.
Will the above process work for me ?
I was hoping to get the OTA updates OTA however, is there a way of doing this ?
Also, are there any benefits to removing the carrier sim lock even though I have no intention of using an alternative carrier sim ?
Thanks for your time.
edit: I have read a bit more, and, now knowing the warranty issues, I will not be attempting to modify the CID
EddyOS said:
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
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Your link didnt work anyway once you click download theres an error as the sites been taken over.
Hey all,
I have a quick question or two about goldcards and what they do and when they are needed. I created one as per the instructions on this page
"broadbandgenie.co.uk/blog/20100822-how-debrand-htc-desire-update-froyo" and it allowed me to load stock Froyo 2.2 onto my Virgin Mobile branded Desire.
Strangely I now seem to be able to use other SIM's too, but thats not really relevant.
My questions are as follows...
1) What exactly did this goldcard do that allowed me to load an unbranded Froyo ROM
2) I've since rooted my phone with unrEVOked 3.21, do I still need the goldcard to load OTA updates or a new custom ROM in the future?
3) What ever the answer to question 2, can an explanation be givenas to why?
And slightly OT, but I've read some horror stories about wrong radios or SPL's(?) killing phones permanently. So on that subject..
1) Do I need to make sure I have the right radio each time I load a custom ROM?
2) If so, where do I get the radio files and how do I know which is right?
3) Would an OTA update take care of the above for me automatically?
4) Are HBOOT and SPL the same thing?
Again, apologies for asking things that have undoubtedly been answered before but I'd like to be fully armed with the knowledge I need before I go any further with my Desire.
Many thanks,
Nathan.
First batch:
1. The gold card in affect masks the CID of the phone and makes the phone appear to be a generic handset so it can accept any official ROM
2. If you've only rooted the stock ROM you were on and are going to continue to use it then yes you'll need the gold card for ALL future OTA updates. This is for the same reason as point 1. If you're going to use a custom ROM then you don't need a gold card at all as rooting via unrEVOked can be done without a gold card.
3. See points 1 and 2
Second set:
1. Yes, all custom ROMs threads have a recommended radio stated in the first post
2. There's a thread for radios in the Dev section, see point 1 for other info
3. Yes it will, but see point 2 of first batch answers
4. SPL is WinMo phones, HBOOT is the Android equivalent
Fantastic! Thanks for that.
So for my own clarification, the goldcard bypasses some security in the official ROM's, be they branded or not? But the custom ROM's have no such security restrictions meaning I do not need the gold card?
And from where I am now, stock Froyo rooted with unrEVOked, I am in a decent position to simlpy load on LeeDroid ROM for example just by the method he describes in his official post?
Would I at any point need to upgrade my HBOOT from 0.93 manually?
Many thanks! I think I am finally getting my head round the various areas of Android/ROM's etc.
Nathan
Yes. Say you had a T-Mobile branded Desire and tried to flash a generic RUU file to it it would fail the CID check. A gold card effectively masks this so the RUU file thinks you have a CID unlocked Desire and allows you to flash it. Just remember to leave the gold card in the phone as you'll need it for OTA updates as they come along (and they'll remove root access in the process).
With rooting you will have a custom recovery which doesn't run the check an official RUU does so you can just flash the ZIP file without any issues
If you're on rooted FroYo now then you'll already be on HBOOT 0.93 so you can't forget about that. The HBOOT is only changed on official updates
Thanks again Eddy
I'm slowly but surely getting more knowledge and in return becoming more intrigued about I can do with the phone. Maybe one day I'll be the one handing out advice
Cheers,
Nathan.
hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
jkoljo said:
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
jkoljo said:
You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time