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[Q] How good is the Desire's GPS and audio on headphones?

I have the Samsung Galaxy S 16GB but am about to return it due to the useless GPS and get a Desire (or eventually recover the money and buy a Desire later)
How accurate is the current Desire's GPS? Can anyone show me some MyTracks paths for instance?
Another thing that worries me is audio quality on the 3.5mm as I use the units a lot for music. How well does it behave with audiophile headphones? Including low-impedance ones.. any background hiss, etc?
The Galaxy S is really excellent at audio and the screen is amazing but I really need a well-balanced unit that includes a reliable GPS.

I have never had an issue with the GPS but I've only used it for in-car navigation every now and again. The sound on the Desire is acceptable for me. I'm using a pair of Klipsch Image X1s and it sound the same as, if not better than the iPod.
It does however seem to have a volume limiter on it which is bloody annoying! Still it's not an issue if you have a decent pair of 'phones.

Same expeirence here. Music quality on headphones is at least the same as on the ipod classic (old 80GB model). Gps outside has a quick fix (usually within 10 seconds) and i haven't had any signal los yet (except for tunnels and inside buildings).
steve228uk said:
I have never had an issue with the GPS but I've only used it for in-car navigation every now and again. The sound on the Desire is acceptable for me. I'm using a pair of Klipsch Image X1s and it sound the same as, if not better than the iPod.
It does however seem to have a volume limiter on it which is bloody annoying! Still it's not an issue if you have a decent pair of 'phones.
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A My Tracks sample for GPS accuracy. Unlike the Galaxy S, Desire never lost the signal.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...874704971674600592.00048b2dcdedf643cc518&z=14
Audio quality is almost as good as Galaxy S. Maybe a little bit noisy, but it's a phone after all.

h t t p://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&z=14&msid=106701584406805964837.00048ad075c8a785906d6 - another patch from MyTrack
Audio quality is at least comparable (or better) with iRiver T60 and better than in most ipods. I'm using Koss Porta Pro or AKG K416P headphones.

10 sec or less GPS fix on desire is only if using AGPS (you have the 3G so it can load satellite data). Otherwise it takes more than a minute. It helps if you are not moving.

pigbrother said:
A My Tracks sample for GPS accuracy. Unlike the Galaxy S, Desire never lost the signal.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...874704971674600592.00048b2dcdedf643cc518&z=14
Audio quality is almost as good as Galaxy S. Maybe a little bit noisy, but it's a phone after all.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I don't really care about the fast fixes. Don't mind waiting at all even if the initial gprs assistance is off. That I care about is accuracy and keeping the locks after the inicial fix. That is something the Galaxy can't do.
I gathered some more feedback about the audio and while the Desire seems weaker in that area it should be good enough for normal use.
One thing I'm now wondering is if it suffers from the same "lag" or occasional pauses that I got on the Galaxy. Sometimes it would pause for 2 or 3 seconds while some IO was happening, sometimes more. Perhaps I'll post that in a different thread.
Meanwhile if anyone has more GPS tracks (google maps is fine) especially driving in town, I'd like to see them. The ones I did with my Galaxy S are just scary and full of zig-zags... don't want that again.

I’ve used my desire to track routes with Maverick when out mountain biking in Portugal. I put it in my shorts pocket and it tracked me very accurately without any variations. I haven’t really used it in my car while driving. I can give it shot today and see what results I get. Obviously it’s not going to be as accurate while driving as it is when cycling because of the speed factor but I will let you know later on.

I have used my desire since I got it in April, as my Ipod, and Tom Tom and cycle computer. It does all these thing very well. I agree about the headphones, should be decent quality. Have not experienced any problems with music play back, while doing other things. Gps seems very accurate. The desire is now my main music device, there are several music apps which are better than the stock player, Mixzing is one and it now has an equalizer, which I don't use, but is there if you need it.

Hi Beowulf_pt I’ve uploaded two tracks I recorded yesterday when I was out driving. Both of them seem very accurate and don’t deviate or jump about at all. The 2nd one is over 34miles long and is very accurate. A lot of the roads I went down have tree/hedge coverage on both sides too. I you want to get a good idea of what the roads look like you can go onto Google earth street view as all of Northern Ireland has street view. I’m very impressed with the performance of the GPS on the desire anyway.
I hope this helps.
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%201.gpx
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%202.gpx

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Hi Beowulf_pt I’ve uploaded two tracks I recorded yesterday when I was out driving. Both of them seem very accurate and don’t deviate or jump about at all.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...286,0.059996&z=14&iwloc=00048d2c27552512edb09
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%202.gpx
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Thanks for taking those, those don't have many low speed driving with lots of turning probably but in any case are very accurate, really pretty good.
If anyone wants a good laugh, this is what the great Desire's rival produces.. the mighty Samsung Galaxy S:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...09658333539209.00048d2c2727adf4f601e&t=h&z=13
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...09658333539209.00048d44b071f0237417b&t=h&z=14
I tried everything (except plugging in an external antenna yet) but it loses lock so often and is so imprecise that tracks look like that and navigation is pathetic.

It’s strange the results you got with the Samsung. It’s kind of understandable that it’s inaccurate between buildings but in areas that are quite open it’s bad as well. Did you try it with Assisted GPS (mobile internet) on? Admittedly I didn’t use it when I took mine but maybe it might help yours. The only City I could really use mine on is Belfast and I’m off at the moment so I would get the chance to try it for a few days. Belfast wouldn’t be in the same class as city as Lisbon. I still think the Desire would get a lot better results than the Samsung though.
I think the Samsung GPS chip has alzheimer's. It gets confused quite easily.

[Q] What is wrong with audio over bluetooth?

I went from a Vibrant to the Galaxy s ii. The vibrant also had this issue, but a single ROM from all the ROMs I flashed in my day was the solution to this problem.
I connect my phone over bluetooth to my car. Phone functions work great, audio playback functions work splendid, and the S ii actually shows more information on the little display in my car. So far, I've only been using Pandora.
Now here is my issue: the audio cracks I'm guessing at some frequencies. Some songs have it worse than others. Most songs just have a moderate amount, and I've been getting used to it, but I still want to fix it somehow if it was fixed in one of the ROMs I had on my vibrant. This cracking was really pronounced in the song Lotus Flower Bomb by Wale. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZKvhkcJDbzY#t=137s
The part where Miguel goes "we living in a fantasy, i feel it when you dance with me"
He extends the words "fantasy" and "dance." I almost went deaf at the cracking that occured. It just sounded like something digitally was wrong. WTF is wrong with the bluetooth?
I will admit I haven't tried playing my own MP3s over bluetooth yet, but that's next on my list I've just been real busy.

1X and SE MW-600 stream cuts off

Like the titel says... It cuts off randomly for a secod and then continues. Tried to wipe the profiles and re-pair them, no difference.
Anyone else got the same issue on this paticular model or any other BT unit?

I've only had mine for a couple of weeks but I use it every day. I haven't noticed it cutting off. My complaint is that they have the cord with the plug going upwards (towards the earbud) instead of pointing downwards since most people would clip the BT unit on their shirt.
Other than that (oh! and the stupid volume controller - WTF?!?) I like it and it's worth the $40 I spent on Amazon since I can always replace the earbud portion of it.

I know what u meen But I like this BT unit. The battery last whole day with heavy use, and I can be discreet hiding it. Some think it is an mp3 player And the range is incredible. I Can run around in my office complex 50m away from my 1x laying on my desk.
Did some diggin about my issue. Apparently, the stream clips when you have wifi on, transmitting data at the same. unless you are using 5GHz on the network. BT are on 2,4GHz, same as most wifi.
Edit: it cant be right... Have to do some more diggin

Mines seemed ok but my WiFi was off IIRC. I'll need to check.
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for me it iss gone with the 1.29 update.
also screen turned on everytime i pressed a button, but thats gone too now

One x Bluetooth signal quality issues?

Since swapping from my GS2 i have noticed signal loss issues when streaming music from my HOX to my Bluetooth headphones. Previously i used my GS2 everyday to play music via one of 2 pairs of Bluetooth headphones whilst training. Never had any issues with signal loss even when I left the phone on the other side of the gym temporarily. Now when I use my HOX I get massive skips sometimes if i merely put it in my pocket upside down or more commonly if i put my hand over the top end of the handset or swing a weight and/or my arm etc over top of it. I swapped firmware to aokp to see if it helped and it may have slightly but still it is unacceptable for a newer handset to do this let alone a flag ship. I have seen some others noticing this too and sorry if it has been already discussed lots, just wondering if anyone has found a fix or workaround? Or do I just need to go back to Sammy and swap to an s3?
Thanks in advance
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Go swap it for an S3. You'll fit right in over at the whiniest forum on xda.

Chill, no need for that dude I'm not trolling or IMO excessively moaning over nothing as it seems like I have a legit hardware issue I was trying to work around, other than that I'm very happy with my change back to HTC.
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I've had similar problems with my bluetooth headset on my One X - fairly frequent signal dropouts which appear as pauses / skips in the music. This is in contrast to my HTC Desire which always had a good signal to the same headset, and very rarely (if ever) dropped out.

i use bluetooth headphones when training and also catching train to work and i notice it too mate. In fact i had something similar in my desire HD. The range of the signal and also strength is exremely poor in recent HTC phones for some reason. I thought it may be my Senheiser headphones, but i tested them on my friends SG1 and they work perfectly even at long ranges, no skips or pauses.
I don't think there is a fix as i think the problem is in the poor hardware itself......hopefully HTC address this in their future phones

Cheers for the replies guys, yeah assumed that was the case just was hoping I could some how increase the buffer size or something along those lines so when the signal is interrupted it could stream through it somewhat. Obviously this would only work if the interruption was relatively short but still may just be enough for a bit smoother playback, providing this was possible at all in the first place of course. I tried to fiddle with power amps settings to do this in a very basic way but had no real success.
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It's probably obvious, but have you tried unpairing and then re-pairing your BT headphones? I used to have a similar problem with my Legend, and doing that solved it (along with rebooting the phone). BT reception on my HOX has been near flawless, on the other hand, so not sure what causes your problems. Hope the above helps.
PS. The HOX does have skip issues when turning the screen on/off, and I suspect this has to do with switching to and from the companion core. Wonder if that will be fixed in JB.

benitorios said:
It's probably obvious, but have you tried unpairing and then re-pairing your BT headphones? I used to have a similar problem with my Legend, and doing that solved it (along with rebooting the phone). BT reception on my HOX has been near flawless, on the other hand, so not sure what causes your problems. Hope the above helps.
PS. The HOX does have skip issues when turning the screen on/off, and I suspect this has to do with switching to and from the companion core. Wonder if that will be fixed in JB.
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My bluetooth headset signal is getting worse and worse.. even having it about 30cm away it'll still lose signal.
and if i put it in my pocket and walk, basically every step i lose signal...
I assume it's software issue and it didn't have such a bad problem when i was on ICS

This is a hardware issue
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688538
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Bluetooth Concerns

I have 2 issues with Bluetooth on this phone. (Verizon version)
First, it does disconnect and occasionally with my Kinova head set. (Never with the M8)
Second, it has horrible range compared to my M8. I put the 10 in the exact same spot on my toolbox at work as my M8 with the same headset and I don't get nearly the same range as before. I honestly could go about 30-40 yards with the M8, I am lucky to get 15-20 with the 10, sometimes it even breaks up just 15 feet away! One of the greatest things I personally liked about the M8 was how far bluetooth range was.
Hopefully there will be an update to improve this.

I agree BT is kinda ****ty. It doesn't totally lose connection to my truck stereo but it starts to glitch out if I handle the phone while streaming music has to be put down to keep a solid signal
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dandan2980 said:
I agree BT is kinda ****ty. It doesn't totally lose connection to my truck stereo but it starts to glitch out if I handle the phone while streaming music has to be put down to keep a solid signal
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that's odd, I cant comment on the range. but ive streamed for a couple hours, while using as a mobile wifi hotspot along side the streaming, while driving on a long drive and it didn't have one hiccup, worked the whole time. also received a couple calls that switched over audio perfectly to the stereo speakerphone and then switch back to music without issue.
BT audio is used everywhere I go in my car, I cant stand normal radio.
I have Verizon version

It could be my radio i have an alpine 265bt but it also happened in my wifes Malibu 2015 on stock radio also. It will stream fine if i just set it down but once i start using the phone will streaming it seems to interupt the signal. Its weird i have to kinda shake the phine to stop the glitch
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I've also found the range to be rather poor, and also sometimes connectivity is temperamental about what it will connect with.

BT has worked well for me. At least in my car, it's probably the best sounding implementation I've used to date.
My problems have been with the WiFi - all the problems you guys have mentioned.

BT Power
Another thing I'm noticing is that in the battery-usage stats, BT power consumption is considerably higher than the Screen's!
On my M8, it never mattered whether I left BT on or off as far as battery life was concerned.

FYI Alpine recently released a bt firmware update for my 149 that really helped. I've had excellent luck thru many portable speakers like TDK and SB roar2 but the car was glitchy. Now it's smooth and fast. No issues here
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BT loses connection
I have a similar problem but it happens when
1) Phone lose signal due to poor cell signal.
2) When Wi-fi automatically connects (when I drive into my garage).
When this happens internal speaker kicks in. Only way to fix this issue is to disable and enable Bluetooth.