I may have gotten this one wrong, but AFAIK the "buttons" we have below the screen are just a part of the screen's extended touch-sensitive layer. This should also be true for Diamond2's/Touch Pro2's zoom bar. Which brings me to the main question.
Is it possible to simulate the zoom bar of HTC's new PDA generation on the HD's hard buttons area? Can we create such a module/program/whatever that would let us use the zoom bar by swiping a finger on the area below the screen?
Call -> End call
Zoom in
End call -> Call
Zoom out
that sounds quite interesting. maybe theres already something possible with some modification in apps like sensor scroll e.g
Well, this could theoretically replace one of the axes of the missing D-pad (probably the x-axis).
Yes, It's possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
I'm already start the development and finish about 60% already.
I will upload the zoom bar on hd movie later.
I'm assuming that the zoom bar is just an extension of the resistive touch screen beyond the visible screen, so what are the chances someone will make a program/hack that will let you use it for other functions, like a dpad and a mouse?
TD2 users already have it sort of working as a scroll wheel.
I've been watching the M900 on Pocketnow, and while I'm not swayed, the potential of the navigation functions of the biosensor do wow me. It'd be a welcome addition I think. I'm new to xda-dev, but whenever I've come across the name/link, it's always with effusive praise and admiration. I figure if anyone will, it will be someone here.
Bump for this one!!
As soon as I saw the zoom bar on the TD2 and TP2 and the limited functionality of usage only in messaging, web browsers and pictures, it just screamed hack hack hack
I was also thinking gestures like the Palm Pre...
ooooh... I'm intrigued! I'd like to see what some developers can put together for this. That would be a sweet feature to hack.
evojulz said:
As soon as I saw the zoom bar on the TD2 and TP2 and the limited functionality of usage only in messaging, web browsers and pictures, it just screamed hack hack hack
I was also thinking gestures like the Palm Pre...
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Agreed. The zoom bar seemed like a good idea when I first read about it, given the multitouch zooming was a no go with the resistive screen. But then in the reviews, it just seemed so under-utilized.
I'd love to have a configuration utility that let you use it in different ways in different applications, kind of like some screen rotating apps let you set up rotation differently for different apps.
Or like the Jog Dial on the hermes. (only wished the TP2 had that, and it would have been perfect. One handed control of the device...). But it will have to be pretty precise, and it isn't yet.
If it can register touch pressure (tapping) I would like 2 see 4 sectors (up down left right)
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Or like the Jog Dial on the hermes. (only wished the TP2 had that, and it would have been perfect. One handed control of the device...). But it will have to be pretty precise, and it isn't yet.
If it can register touch pressure (tapping) I would like 2 see 4 sectors (up down left right)
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D2 Zoombar as buttons request asks for 3 buttons. Hopefully someone will do more.
Would LOVE to see 3 or 4 buttons on the zoom bar!!
(And maybe sliding button 1 to the right or button 4 to the left still means scrolling)
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Would LOVE to see 3 or 4 buttons on the zoom bar!!
(And maybe sliding button 1 to the right or button 4 to the left still means scrolling)
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The main screen can tell the difference between a press and a flick, so I imagine the zoom bar could have assigned buttons and still scroll.
Hi All
For my TP2, i'd really like to have Zoom Bar that zooms ....everything!!
I would like to just zoom the screen (any screen) to a larger size. I did kinda think (or at least hope) that it was what it was going to do anyway, not just zooming pictures, browser etc.
I would like the simple (??) funtion of being able to zoom any app, any screen, anything - to be able to read stuff maybe a little more easier.
I do use glasses for reading only and it is a real drag to have to get them out to read a text clearly, or see whose calling or just to get a better look in daylight etc.
A zoom 'anything' or 'any screen' would be really awesome and a supremely useful utilisation of something that is already there. Then you couild just drag the screen around to get to what you want to see better (yes, just like a picture, so basically i guess, the current screen becomes like a picture).
The other ideas of buttons, d pads and so on all sound great too, but this would probably benefit so many people get better use out of their devices.
I wonder if it can be done...????
Cheers and happy TP2ing.
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
I would like to just zoom the screen (any screen) to a larger size. I did kinda think (or at least hope) that it was what it was going to do anyway, not just zooming pictures, browser etc.
I would like the simple (??) funtion of being able to zoom any app, any screen, anything - to be able to read stuff maybe a little more easier.
I do use glasses for reading only and it is a real drag to have to get them out to read a text clearly, or see whose calling or just to get a better look in daylight etc.
A zoom 'anything' or 'any screen' would be really awesome and a supremely useful utilisation of something that is already there. Then you couild just drag the screen around to get to what you want to see better (yes, just like a picture, so basically i guess, the current screen becomes like a picture).
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Probably better than just magnifying the screen, for readability in text heavy apps at least, would be setting font sizes to the zoom bar--zoom up, Font Sizes get larger, zoom down, they get smaller. I think that might actually be enabled in some text apps already, but I'm not sure. The touchpad on my Acer Aspire One does this in some word processors.
For things like Caller ID, a screen magnifier would be needed. I'm guessing you'd need a resident program to be able to do this anywhere and everywhere.
Thx fortunz
All true, but wouldn't the simple 'magnify the whole screen' thing be a really (really) good thing to have - and logical too. Just an extension of the way it works for images. Just seems like something that it should do.
I did notice on the HTC Manila 2.5 demo video from Germany, in the Settings area, under 'Other', there was a setting for 'HTC Magnify'.
Uncertain of any further details, but it could be just what i am talking about, maybe!
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
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Thx fortunz
All true, but wouldn't the simple 'magnify the whole screen' thing be a really (really) good thing to have - and logical too.
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I don't disagree at all.
zoom as scroll and on manila start screen not only inside
I just wish the zoom ball zommed in on pictures (going towards center of picture) rather than how it works in opera (the upper left corner)
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Anybody anything?
i would be interested to know if this is possible too.
I would luv the zoom bar to wash my car and mow the lawns for me... any chance?
....LOL....
Yeah, the zoom bar is really under-utilized. I often forget it's there and go to screen -> larger text to increase my fonts... Guess it's because it only works in a few apps. Without realizing, I've gone to settings -> screens before I realize I have a zoom bar...
Would love to see some gurus here hack this to a mini d-pad, or at least and up/down arrow. Currently, I have the vol up/down to do this using AEB.
i agree with all of these .. we need a genius programmer to make some kind of super aeb where you could have different button profiles and set a shortcut to profiles on the homescreen .. my perfect setup would be to have zoom be able to switch open applications and somehow map the back conference mute thing to play/pause in music player .. or have zoom button be able to switch songs for you (like with screen off/lock on) and hold for running applications list ... then have it all skinned pretty like some translucent palm pre thing .... lol .. just dreaming..
games
they can also utilize in racing games like as steering wheel instead of touching the screen
I recently got an Epic 4G Touch. I created some custom wallpapers and sized them to 480x800 to match the screen's resolution. The wallpaper has a single object (the HAL 9000 eye) which is a circle.
When I use the wallpaper as the lock screen, the eye is distorted slightly so that it's no longer a circle.
The gallery displays the image properly and the selection screen for the lock screen also displays it correctly.
I think I can compensate for this by resizing the image slightly, but I don't know how many pixels to remove from the image. I think the status bar might be a good starting point, but I don't know how many vertical pixels it uses.
Thoughts?
Lobo Droid said:
I recently got an Epic 4G Touch. I created some custom wallpapers and sized them to 480x800 to match the screen's resolution. The wallpaper has a single object (the HAL 9000 eye) which is a circle.
When I use the wallpaper as the lock screen, the eye is distorted slightly so that it's no longer a circle.
The gallery displays the image properly and the selection screen for the lock screen also displays it correctly.
I think I can compensate for this by resizing the image slightly, but I don't know how many pixels to remove from the image. I think the status bar might be a good starting point, but I don't know how many vertical pixels it uses.
Thoughts?
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Because of wallpaper scrolling, you need 800x960 wallpaper. In other words, double the horizontal dimension to allow for scrolling...
My wallpaper doesn't scroll anymore, I'm not sure why.
nabbed said:
Because of wallpaper scrolling, you need 800x960 wallpaper. In other words, double the horizontal dimension to allow for scrolling...
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I tried creating an 800x960 wallpaper using the same eye image and it didn't work. I used GIMP to create a black background image and then inserted the eye image as a new layer. The 480x800 images I created were done with the same method.
The 800x960 wallpaper is still distorted. So the problem is that the aspect ratio of the lock screen is not quite 480x800 or any multiple of those dimensions.
Through some experimentation, I think that changing the vertical dimension to something less than 800 seems to work. For example, I took my original 480x800 image and cropped 30 pixels off to make an image of 480x770. I then resized the image back to 480x800 while ignoring the aspect ratio. This results in a distorted eye, but the distortion is in the opposite direction. (The 480x800 wallpaper is distorted in the horizontal dimension. The 480x770 resized image is distorted in the vertical dimension.)
The 480x770 image is slightly less distorted so I think this might be the way to go. Short of guessing the right dimensions, I was hoping for a way to determine the best dimensions to use.
To help anyone else reading this thread, I'm attaching the wallpapers I've created. Feel free to download them and try them out.
galaxytabevo said:
My wallpaper doesn't scroll anymore, I'm not sure why.
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I think I read somewhere here that the latest Samsung stock update disabled the scrolling wallpaper.
home screen or lock screen?
Lock screen does not scroll.
For home screen you need 800x960 image or you may need to adjust your original 800x480 image to 400x480 and double the pixel size.
To scroll the home screen wallpaper, you need to change the option to make it scroll.
kobridge said:
home screen or lock screen?
Lock screen does not scroll.
For home screen you need 800x960 image or you may need to adjust your original 800x480 image to 400x480 and double the pixel size.
To scroll the home screen wallpaper, you need to change the option to make it scroll.
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I'm working on the lock screen. With most wallpapers, the difference in the aspect ratio is likely not noticeable. I just happen to see it because my lock screen image has only one component and it's very easy to see when it's distorted.
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I think I read somewhere here that the latest Samsung stock update disabled the scrolling wallpaper.
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This really sucks. I also miss the bounce effect on the browser/when you reach the end of a menu. Was it due to the Apple lawsuit?
Curious if there's a way to have different screen zoom and text sizes per screen. On the front.. obviously like it a little bigger. Opened, I like the screen zoom to small with a slightly smaller text size. Also the screen zoom changes some apps to tablet mode, not ideal for the small screen. Any ideas?
Wondering about this as well. I've yet to find anyway of doing this. At the moment, 'Medium' Zoom looks better for the outside screen but too big for the Inner. I've just set it to 'Small' as the best you can get for now. Any change in developer setting (to make even smaller) makes the outside screen practically unusable due to its tiny size.
yeah from what i understand, the text size setting is completely global which is unfortunate.
with their expensive team of "experts", you would wonder why this was such an oversight.
Iv noticed on small screen you can pinch to zoom which iv used a lot
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