[Q] Skyraider 3.3.1 question about battery - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My battery seems to drop by 10 percent almost immediately after coming off charger. I read this is a known issue. My question is if I install different kernel will this fix problem? And what would be a good starting one?
Thanks!

That will happen no matter what kernel you have installed. You must bump charge to reach a full 100% charge. Try out different kernels, everyone has their own opinion on which is best. I am using the newest stock HTC kernel and get great battery life, but i also did with Kings BFS Kernel.

Wonder why this can't be fixed?
By bump charge do you mean that you unplug and plug back?

Charge your phone to full with the phone turned on, then power off and charge till the light turns green again.

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[Q] SBC Kernel shuts off my charging!

Hello All
Problem: Trying out Netarchy's new 4.3 cfs and bfs kernels with SBC, they always shut off the charging when I plug them in, both for usb and outlet. The charging light turns on momentarily, but in a second shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what's going on? I've searched the forums but I can't find anyone having a problem of the SBC kernel shutting off the charging.
I know in the original SBC thread, the coder said that the charging may turn off if put on the charger at 100%. No matter when level my battery is at, it shuts off the charging nevertheless.
I've tried clearing the cache and dalvic when flashing the kernel. I'm currently running Fresh 3.4.0.1.
theboundless said:
Hello All
Problem: Trying out Netarchy's new 4.3 cfs and bfs kernels with SBC, they always shut off the charging when I plug them in, both for usb and outlet. The charging light turns on momentarily, but in a second shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what's going on? I've searched the forums but I can't find anyone having a problem of the SBC kernel shutting off the charging.
I know in the original SBC thread, the coder said that the charging may turn off if put on the charger at 100%. No matter when level my battery is at, it shuts off the charging nevertheless.
I've tried clearing the cache and dalvic when flashing the kernel. I'm currently running Fresh 3.4.0.1.
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Same thing was happening to me...one morning I woke up and my battery was at 67%. I've since then stopped using sbc kernels. Not sure what the problem was but I decided not try to figure it out
sent from my DAMN EVO
Thanks for the response success, it does feel a little bit better I'm not the only one with the problem. I just wish there was I solution so I could take advantage of an SBC kernel and reclaim the first 10% of my battery

[Q] Confused on battery life... please help

Hey everyone, I am having some trouble with my rooted phone. Prior to rooting the phone, I had no battery life issues. Right after Christmas, I had a little bit of time and I rooted my phone for tethering, mostly. I used the root listed on this website at the time (I couldn't use unrevoked because I had just done the OTA update to the software) and installed no further changes. Since then, I can get about 8 hours before the battery is well below 50%. This is without making any phone calls or using the internet, and maybe a few texts. I have resorted to turning off the connection to the internet, and this preserves my battery and allows me to make some calls without absolutely killing my battery. When I unplug, I can almost watch the battery life drain. I will be at 90% by the time my 15 minute drive to work is done. I have tried changing chargers, buying a new battery, and nothing works other than shutting off the connection to the internet. When I look at what has been using the battery, I not no time where I did not have a cell connection, and all the battery usage is idle and connection to network time. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!
Wow, your situation seems very strange. Are you running a custom ROM or kernel? Have you tried using spare parts to see what is actually consuming your battery? Perhaps, you can try wiping everything from the phone and installing the stock ROM or other custom ROM of your choice. Please keep us posted, good luck
Recalibrate the battery. I would link you but kinda hard to do so. Just search the forums for it.
Sent from my Evo powered by MIUI
What Rom are u using?
That is happening to me too. After I first rooted the battery life was good better than before. I had been using vaelpak, then a about last week my battery started to drain so fast. I would take it off the charger and do a little texting or check my emails. Shower or what not than I pick up my phone and its like 92% already. Thinking maybe I have too many apps so I deleted some and then forced stopped a few and I forgot what else and that day my battery stayed on 60%(thats what it was on when I took it off the charger before I left) for about a good two hours and i was listening to music and the internet and text and all that. Kinda scared me because I thought I messed something up, but the battery lasted longer that day. Then the next day back to the same old same old. Last night I flashed warm twopointtwo and was charging my evo last night but I put it under the pillows by accident and woke up this morning the phone was burning up and flashing red and green at the same time and it had stopped charging. I took the battery out and let it cool for a few hours. now its charged back up. I wanna see if the battery improves with warm but I think I'm going to flash another ROM but this one is too pixeled and its killing my eyes So upset. but let me know if you fix your battery problem
hmmmm....maybe....
Bruggeman.Adam said:
Hey everyone, I am having some trouble with my rooted phone. Prior to rooting the phone, I had no battery life issues. Right after Christmas, I had a little bit of time and I rooted my phone for tethering, mostly. I used the root listed on this website at the time (I couldn't use unrevoked because I had just done the OTA update to the software) and installed no further changes. Since then, I can get about 8 hours before the battery is well below 50%. This is without making any phone calls or using the internet, and maybe a few texts. I have resorted to turning off the connection to the internet, and this preserves my battery and allows me to make some calls without absolutely killing my battery. When I unplug, I can almost watch the battery life drain. I will be at 90% by the time my 15 minute drive to work is done. I have tried changing chargers, buying a new battery, and nothing works other than shutting off the connection to the internet. When I look at what has been using the battery, I not no time where I did not have a cell connection, and all the battery usage is idle and connection to network time. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!
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I'm having similar problems, though not as dramatic - mybattery life only lasts about a third of what it used to. I am running 2.2 RLS 5 witht the htc stock #15 kernel. What I am trying to do is hunt down a decent kernel that is compatable with RLS 5. I have found a few - but I am still in the process of researching information about the issue.
I have found 3 differant ways to reset your battery... I'm going with the last one (blue) for now and am currently in the process of executing it right now, but here are the three steps I have found while reading:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
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this is one from HTC
Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
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charge the phone to full
unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats
reboot back into phone and charge too 100% with a wall charger( don not unplug until at 100%)
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After I try this out - I might or might not switch my kernel - But I wll say this - I had absolutly awesome battery life when I was running HTC stock #17 - you might could look into flashing that instead of what you are running now (flash it just like you would a ROM) - you can find it here
hope this helps out a little bit - but in reality - getting your battery the way you like it is really more of a trial and error type procedure...good luck
Ah, welcome to an elite club...right. I rooted my 003 Evo last summer after getting it shipped to me. From then until mid-november of last year, I got great battery life. Before the switch flipped in November, I could leave it sit overnight and i'd use 1-1.5% charge per hour, so worst case after 8-hours sleeping with no use I'd be at 86-88% charge.
Then suddenly as it a switch had been flipped, I started getting horrible battery life. The ROM didn't matter, settings mattered little, it just sucks no matter what I do. If I unplug it at 6:00 AM and leave it completely unused until 2:00-3:00PM that afternoon, the stock battery is at 31-35%. The awake time will be under an hour, and every utility that I use reports nothing out of the ordinary.
I bought a 3500 mAh battery and its better of course, but gets me nowhere near the use what the stock battery used to provide. I unrooted back to stock with the same results so I rooted again of course. Might try flashing back to the 1.77 PRI and NV. Some folks are getting better battery life with those, but that may only be related to sleep issues which my phone doesn't appear to have. It may prove to be a waste of time, but I have to keep trying.
Good luck all of the club members! Thank you for your time.
JayStation3 said:
I'm having similar problems, though not as dramatic - mybattery life only lasts about a third of what it used to. I am running 2.2 RLS 5 witht the htc stock #15 kernel. What I am trying to do is hunt down a decent kernel that is compatable with RLS 5. I have found a few - but I am still in the process of researching information about the issue.
I have found 3 differant ways to reset your battery... I'm going with the last one (blue) for now and am currently in the process of executing it right now, but here are the three steps I have found while reading:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
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this is one from HTC
Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
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charge the phone to full
unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats
reboot back into phone and charge too 100% with a wall charger( don not unplug until at 100%)
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After I try this out - I might or might not switch my kernel - But I wll say this - I had absolutly awesome battery life when I was running HTC stock #17 - you might could look into flashing that instead of what you are running now (flash it just like you would a ROM) - you can find it here
hope this helps out a little bit - but in reality - getting your battery the way you like it is really more of a trial and error type procedure...good luck
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I'm trying the first one right now I will keep you updated to see if this works
im using netarchy 4.3.2 havs more aggressive with both myns roms and my battery is pretty good
JayStation3 said:
I'm having similar problems, though not as dramatic - mybattery life only lasts about a third of what it used to. I am running 2.2 RLS 5 witht the htc stock #15 kernel. What I am trying to do is hunt down a decent kernel that is compatable with RLS 5. I have found a few - but I am still in the process of researching information about the issue.
I have found 3 differant ways to reset your battery... I'm going with the last one (blue) for now and am currently in the process of executing it right now, but here are the three steps I have found while reading:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
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this is one from HTC
Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
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charge the phone to full
unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats
reboot back into phone and charge too 100% with a wall charger( don not unplug until at 100%)
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After I try this out - I might or might not switch my kernel - But I wll say this - I had absolutly awesome battery life when I was running HTC stock #17 - you might could look into flashing that instead of what you are running now (flash it just like you would a ROM) - you can find it here
hope this helps out a little bit - but in reality - getting your battery the way you like it is really more of a trial and error type procedure...good luck
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**Just a update, the 1st one did nothing for me lol**
DoctorComrade said:
Recalibrate the battery. I would link you but kinda hard to do so. Just search the forums for it.
Sent from my Evo powered by MIUI
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I used Amon_RA backup to recalibrate the battery this AM. We'll see how that works.
rey823 said:
What Rom are u using?
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Sprintlovers ROM from the initial root process. Kernel HTC #15
JayStation3 said:
I'm having similar problems, though not as dramatic - mybattery life only lasts about a third of what it used to. I am running 2.2 RLS 5 witht the htc stock #15 kernel. What I am trying to do is hunt down a decent kernel that is compatable with RLS 5. I have found a few - but I am still in the process of researching information about the issue.
I have found 3 differant ways to reset your battery... I'm going with the last one (blue) for now and am currently in the process of executing it right now, but here are the three steps I have found while reading:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this is one from HTC
Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
charge the phone to full
unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats
reboot back into phone and charge too 100% with a wall charger( don not unplug until at 100%)
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After I try this out - I might or might not switch my kernel - But I wll say this - I had absolutly awesome battery life when I was running HTC stock #17 - you might could look into flashing that instead of what you are running now (flash it just like you would a ROM) - you can find it here
hope this helps out a little bit - but in reality - getting your battery the way you like it is really more of a trial and error type procedure...good luck
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Tried the middle one from HTC as well... we will see how it goes. Just in the time I have been typing this message (about 2 minutes), my battery has gone from 91 to 88%.
Also forgot to add that I have been out of town every week for the last two months and noticed that the HTC weather thing on the startup screen hasn't been switching to my current location. Always shows my hometown, even if I force an update.
I think I figured out the problem... ran into several threads discussing PRI incompatibility with HTC kernel #15. Flashed back to 1.77 and doing much better. Didn't mess with the NV. We will see how it does for the rest of the day.

[Q] Phone won't charge to 100% unless turned off?

I have a problem with my phone hanging at 93-97% when charging. I have to turn it off and within a minute or two it shows that it is fully charged. I'm wondering if anyone has ran across this problem and is it the phone or something else? It does this across all the ROM's and kernel combos that I have used over the last few months and I can't figure it out.
gajendarksky said:
I have a problem with my phone hanging at 93-97% when charging. I have to turn it off and within a minute or two it shows that it is fully charged. I'm wondering if anyone has ran across this problem and is it the phone or something else? It does this across all the ROM's and kernel combos that I have used over the last few months and I can't figure it out.
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I've ran into that a few times, where it would seem to stop charging at around 95 or 96%. I changed to a different kernel and also wiped my battery stats, and that solved my issue. It's odd that it does it on any ROM/kernel combo. It doesn't seem to matter if it's Sense or AOSP? Have you tried wiping your battery stats? If not, give that a try. I'd also wipe cache and dalvik cache at the same time. You want to be charged up to 100% when you wipe the battery stats, btw. If that fails to solve the problem, the next thing I'd personally try out is using a different/new charging cable.
k2buckley said:
I've ran into that a few times, where it would seem to stop charging at around 95 or 96%. I changed to a different kernel and also wiped my battery stats, and that solved my issue. It's odd that it does it on any ROM/kernel combo. It doesn't seem to matter if it's Sense or AOSP? Have you tried wiping your battery stats? If not, give that a try. I'd also wipe cache and dalvik cache at the same time. You want to be charged up to 100% when you wipe the battery stats, btw. If that fails to solve the problem, the next thing I'd personally try out is using a different/new charging cable.
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I've tried all those and no luck. I am totally perplexed as to what it could be, but I will give the battery stats another try, I can't remember if it was fully charged or not. The other thing that I am wondering is if it could be the PRI/NV that might need to be downgraded perhaps? If so, will these be ok with the newer radio?
gajendarksky said:
I've tried all those and no luck. I am totally perplexed as to what it could be, but I will give the battery stats another try, I can't remember if it was fully charged or not. The other thing that I am wondering is if it could be the PRI/NV that might need to be downgraded perhaps? If so, will these be ok with the newer radio?
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You should be able to run the 1.77_003 PRI and NV with the newer radio. When I downgraded my PRI, I also downgraded the radio at the same time, but I don't believe that was necessary. Just be cautious, I believe that the stock htc #15 kernel runs crappy or won't even let the phone boot on the older radios/pri. So if you do downgrade the PRI / Radio, I'd suggest using a custom kernel. All that said, I have never heard of a certain version of a PRI or Radio causing any sort of charging issues like you're having. That is sort of odd. Perhaps it's the battery itself?! Have you tried using a different battery?
I have two batteries that I switch and it does the same thing on both.
Sent from the biggest damn EVO there ever was...
its the evo, its called the way they charge the phones, the only way to get 100 percent charge is using a sbc kernal, otherwise you have a phone that comes off the charger anywhere from 90-100% because thats what the phone is told to do
iitreatedii said:
its the evo, its called the way they charge the phones, the only way to get 100 percent charge is using a sbc kernal, otherwise you have a phone that comes off the charger anywhere from 90-100% because thats what the phone is told to do
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It should still charge to 100%, where the light turns green, even without an SBC kernel. It's true, that the Evo stops charging at a certain point, and it's very possible to take it off the charger anywhere between 90-100%, as you stated. However, when it's plugged in, it should still register full, and the led should still be green. Then once it's unplugged, a rapid decrease will be noticed, as it registers where the actual charge is at.
k2buckley said:
It should still charge to 100%, where the light turns green, even without an SBC kernel. It's true, that the Evo stops charging at a certain point, and it's very possible to take it off the charger anywhere between 90-100%, as you stated. However, when it's plugged in, it should still register full, and the led should still be green. Then once it's unplugged, a rapid decrease will be noticed, as it registers where the actual charge is at.
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The phone will charge to full capacity only when it's turned off only, never when its on. Like I said before, it will charge at a normal rate and then just stop at the 93-97% range for hours until I turn it off and then within a minute or two the light will turn green.

[Q] Battery Calibration

Ok so what ive read and heard is that calibrating your battery after a new rom will give you quite alot more battery power (Which im like obsessed with), but anyway ive read that
1: Charge your battery to 100%
2: Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats or use a battery calibration app to do so
3: Now let the battery die completely so you cant turn it back on
and 4 is what im wondering about.
4: Charge your phone to 100% while its OFF.
Im a very busy person and have important things to be doing and i dont have 3 or 4 hours to have my phone off charging up.. sure having it on and charging is one thing but off while charging is another.
First: Can i calibrate it by charging it while its on after dieing? Second: Is there a work around to finish the calibration if i HAVE to have it charge up off?
Any help would be appreciated.
Also. YOUL GET A COOKIE!
Try this,
Plug in charge till green
Unplug power down
Plug in (while off) charge till green
Unplug power up
Let it completely settle
Plug in charge till green
Power down
Boot into Recovery
Wipe Battery Stats
Click the link in my sig, scroll to battery life. the part where you have to turn your phone off can be overnight on a weekend, maybe.
It's not advisable to run the battery down to zero, btw
Swyped From The Hippest MIUI'd phone Using XDA Premium
I've heard it both ways. If you charge to 100% without unplugging, you should be fine with keeping your phone on.
Also realize that if you're using an SBC kernel then you don't really need to calibrate your battery. You can, but I don't know if it'll help much.
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I just want my battery high up there.. the highest ive seen is 18 hours, screen on for about 10 of the hours, and it was stock battery.. forgot where i saw it it one of my threads and who it was and with what build
I haven't seen amazing battery life since before GB arrived.
HipKat said:
I haven't seen amazing battery life since before GB arrived.
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I know rite.. I wish I could use the old netarchy kernels on 3.5
CyanogenMod 7.1
Tiamat 3.3.7 +sbc

Battery drops 6% when unplugged.

I currently run MIUI on my Evo, and I'm having a problem. My phone will say its fully charged and all, with the green LED saying so, but when I unplug the phone, my battery level drops down to 94% immediatly. What is this? I bought a brand new battery and I still got this problem. Anyone who can I can do?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using XDA
You either need to calibrate your battery (app off the market). Or try using a SBC kernel, which properly charges your battery to its full capacity. Make sure its an aosp kernel like mason, or taimat.
Lol sane experience on morning
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Definitely needs calibration.Just search for how to properly do it on the forums.I personally use battery calibration from the app store.Charge the battery to 100%,then use the app.Unplug through phone and use the phone all the way until it dies on its on.Then plug it in without turning it on and wait until its fully charged.Turn on and use it once more until it dies.Charge again to 100% then after that you should be good to go.Hope this helps ya.
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A non-sbc kernel will charge to 100%, then begin to discharge to about 90%, then cycle back up... Depending when you pull the plug, in reality it could be anywhere inbetween that range, so 100 is not a true 100... Calibrating the battery by deleting the bin file doesn't produce any long term results..
A manual way to mimic a full charge would be to charge to 100 percent, unplug, plug back in for a bit and repeat about 10 times, and it should give you a decent charge.
That's a manual way of doing what a SBC kernel does automatically for you
Hey,
Like they said get the SBC, and calibrate your battery, and that should fix it.
I assume at night you are plugging it in till the morning, and this is your issue because in the middle of your sleep it is reaching full and stopping its charge. so by the time you unplug it drops down to how much it discharged.
Charging with your phone off solves this to
Let your phone completely drain till it turns off. Charge the phone while its off till you see the green "charged" light. Unplug usb, wait for green light to disappear and plug usb back in, phone will still charge. Repeat process about ten times. On the tenth time boot into recovery and wipe batt stats, then reboot phone.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA
Flashed the SBC, and properly calibrated my battery. I'm still at 100% battery level after an hour!
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using XDA
Good to see that worked for ya. I'd +1 the SBC kernel if you hadn't found that it has been working for you. I've been using Mason's 14 with ICS for a few weeks now and i've found that with the screen off, the battery sits at 100% for quite a while. I haven't used the battery calibrator and maybe i should see how that helps. Does it show significant results or is it mostly a gimmick?
dougfalk said:
Good to see that worked for ya. I'd +1 the SBC kernel if you hadn't found that it has been working for you. I've been using Mason's 14 with ICS for a few weeks now and i've found that with the screen off, the battery sits at 100% for quite a while. I haven't used the battery calibrator and maybe i should see how that helps. Does it show significant results or is it mostly a gimmick?
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Im not sure what everyone on here thinks it does, but calibrating the battery is strictly for stats. It will not lengthen the battery life or keep it from draining down from 100% faster. All it will do is assure that your battery stats, aka estimated time you have left on your battery, are more accurate.
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msr4 said:
Flashed the SBC, and properly calibrated my battery. I'm still at 100% battery level after an hour!
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using XDA
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good luck. I tried sbc and it was working well for about two weeks, then my battery suddenly started draining super fast. Rumor has it that SBC will in time ruin your battery, which it seemed to possibly be doing to mine. Got rid of SBC, flashed back to build28, ran vipermod script and undervolted -75mV and im magically back to normal.
My findings are that if I just run the stock kernel with build 28, I get the best battery life. As soon as I started trying mason kernel, tiamat kernel, or even faux kernel on build 31, my battery drained too fast for my liking. Thus far I have reached 40 hours on my battery on build 28, with vipermod, stock kernel!
I just got brand new batteries, i have not calibrated nor wiped battery stats after flashing. I do have Mason's kernel and am under-volted by -50. I also have an app called battery xl it helps control what is running when you may not be aware or forget. My battery stays at 100% for over 2hours with minimal use. The only thing i heard is that you have to use the battery down to 10% and then charge while phone is off.Do this about 4 to 5 times and that conditions it(when it's brand new) and it will help your battery last longer before needing a replacement.
Just my .02
Several people have reported bad experiences with the SBC kernels, but there are many more (myself included) that have had absolutely no issues with them and I have used several iterations of the SBC since it was first released for the Evo.
At this point, for me, the benefits more than outweigh the risks. If you do have a problem, buy a new battery. They are pretty darn cheap these days.

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