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Empty ExtROM Storage, any good use for it?

Hi all,
I am currently using Jwright's WM6 ROM (so far so good, thanks J) and applied the ExtROM unlocker patch. I have 10MB free on this partition but not sure what to do with it.
I used to have Magician before and after emptying the ExtROM, I could use it for Program Files folder. But I dont think it's useful to do that for device with WM2005 or above.
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.

you could put porn in there i suppose.....

I unlocked the extrom on my uni, helmi_c 1.1 rom.
However, when I delete the contents, it always re-appears. Any files copied in there, disapear.
Help.

willy792003 said:
Hi all,
I am currently using Jwright's WM6 ROM (so far so good, thanks J) and applied the ExtROM unlocker patch. I have 10MB free on this partition but not sure what to do with it.
I used to have Magician before and after emptying the ExtROM, I could use it for Program Files folder. But I dont think it's useful to do that for device with WM2005 or above.
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.
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I too am curious about this - is there a means of adjusting the Disk On Chip to utilise the space more effectively (as can be done on the Himalaya)?
@drsqueggy - that's what the 4Gb SD card is for
@Pyrofer - it sounds like it is un-hidden but still locked, ensure it is actually unlocked (and then search forum or start another thread if problems continue)
-sf

I gotta go with porn too.

You could put a few cabs in there of programs that you like such that if you have to 'system restore' the device, the programs auto-install for you.
It's a miniature time-saver, I guess, but I don't know if such programs could be uninstalled or upgraded when you were done.
Maybe keep one song you really, /really/ like in there?
Or porn.

how bout fonts???
and why not install progs which have today plugins/ load at start up....
a media player/photo viewer....so you can swap sd cards and still play media files..

with 10 mb porn on it, I have to be quick.

Man, 10k would be more than enough time for me... I'm over the hill

my suggestion is to make best use of the space available by storing your cab files.In case one needs to reload any application behaving strange it would help besides your storage card for other things.

willy792003 said:
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.
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I use this space for Internet Explorer Cache file. This can be easily done by changing the location of cache file in the registry.

[Android] _BETA_ Eclair Hero-KingxKxKlair-0.6 Updated with working Wifi 17 Dec

Starting this thread here for running this Eclair-Hero build on our Kaisers. Many thanks to all devs below!!
jamezelle said:
King Klair Hero 0.6
First and Foremost this build was ported by Mssmison and the ril(radio interface layer), and audio libraries were written by Vilord!!! im pretty sure the gps library was written by Srwalter. vilord may have helped port it to eclair. (will get back to you on that). without DZO we would still be using windows mobile "" but were not ""
To Donate: to these fine gents visit http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/WikiStart and scroll down to the donation links
B to the E to the T to the A
this is very beta, well almost alpha(first release for us vogue users so report any bugs that havent been mentioned in this post)
what works:
gps
calls
data
wifi
sync(dont sign in to google during htc wizard, wait till next boot!! you have been warned!!!)
market
gmail
what doesn't:
camera
bluetooth
gtalk
get more widgets
will add screenies later
ENJOY
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UPDATE 17 Dec:
Download the new rootfs below for working WiFi! Thanks enatefox!
Download:
system.sqsh [ver 0.6.01]
Eclair-ready__rootfs.img (rename to rootfs.img, of course)
eclairhero.user.conf (goes on your SD card in /android/conf)
OR if you have a swap partition on your SD card: eclairhero-swap_partition.user.conf (goes on your SD card as /android/conf/eclairhero.user.conf)
And if you don't have them already:
zImage-15-12-09 (the latest kernel from 15 Dec)
startup.txt (My personal HaRET startup.txt)
rootfs changelog:
Copied /init.cfg/init.eclairhero.rc to /init.cfg/init.eclairhero.kaiser.rc
Copied /init.cfg/init.eclair.rc to /init.cfg/init.eclair.kaiser.rc
Altered init to check that media folder exists in /sdcard/android/media instead of /sdcard/media
Altered init to support eclair.user.conf and eclairhero.user.conf
TIPS:
You will need a fresh data partition/data.img for this build. Don't forget to back up your old one first!
Go straight to version 0.6.01 as posted above, version 0.6 gives me weird SIM errors.
This build takes FOREVER (5-10min) to boot. It goes through and even attempts to make a number of thumbnails for your images during first boot. I suggest watching it over adb so you'll know when it's settled and ready for input.
The HTC widgets are not working with this build.
TaskKiller is an absolute must, like other Hero builds this one loves to keep apps open.
Hmm, this build has successfully rebooted itself twice, during heavy use. I wish I knew how that worked, so we could get it to reboot on command!

Wifi not working D:
Also if I put 15-02-19, Haret asks for 11-12-09 (where can I find the latest haret?)
Why does it happen?

Almost downloaded Hero, just got vanilla Eclair to boot the first time. I'll look into wifi. Maybe it's me but Eclair seems faster than Donut but I haven't messed with it much. That should make Hero much nicer.. will post back when I get further

rugalck said:
Wifi not working D:
Also if I put 15-02-19, Haret asks for 11-12-09 (where can I find the latest haret?)
Why does it happen?
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The startup.txt needs to be updated for the new zImage, or you can download my updated one from the first post.
@enatefox:
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Hero is very buggy, has too many problems to run daily for now. Overall Eclair Mike the fastest yet though! And the fonts are much better for qvga. Text autocomplete has issues.

polyrhythmic said:
The startup.txt needs to be updated for the new zImage, or you can download my updated one from the first post.
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Nah, don't worry, it was something really really stupid.
In the same file you said, it was like "zImage 11-12-09" so now I saved it saying just "zImage". Now works fine.
Waiting for wifi updates, great work guys!
BTW, is there any way to take screenshots?

damn bootloop. I'll look at this tomorrow but that's a promise . I don't know where these wifi files came from. I dropped in the ones that I've used and we'll see. Right now I'm fixing telnet and some other issues to post back with but it will take a little bit of time. We're going to get this working for daily use.

Here's working wifi for Eclair:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ezyzekjozj3
EDIT, I didn't get Hero to boot for me (looping) but I forgot to update Eclair Hero's conf file to match conf.eclair.kaiser.rc.. can someone either do that and repost or wait for me to finish some perm issues with it and I will upload one for Hero. Sorry about that.

I have got to be doing something wrong. I am using all of the files from the 1st post and the rootfs.img from enatefox's last post and this sat for 30 minutes. I even copied the user file to the sd card, to the /sdcard/CONF folder and into the /sdcard/Android/CONF folder and still it sits. I'll get a post of the last few lines up later to see if I just need to wait more or not. I am also using an empy 2GB Fat32 SD Card with the 1.71 radio. All other builds work but this one???
Any ideas?

I could mirror my files. They're working perfect, even wifi and etc (bluetooth not yet).
Folder Screenshot:
http://i46.tinypic.com/oqbo2c.jpg
Then you delete data.img to start from the beginning.
that could solve your issues

rugalck said:
I could mirror my files. They're working perfect, even wifi and etc (bluetooth not yet).
Folder Screenshot:
http://i46.tinypic.com/oqbo2c.jpg
Then you delete data.img to start from the beginning.
that could solve your issues
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If u don't mind, that would be great. I also just noticed that even after a 1/2 hr, a data.img file never was created
edit: wait, your system file in that picture is only 44.325 MB; the latest system file from post 1 is 89.3? Why so different?
Also
polyrhythmic said:
TIPS:
You will need a fresh data partition/data.img for this build. Don't forget to back up your old one first!
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What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?

FYI, your 'conf' and 'android' folders should be named in lowercase, if they aren't already.
The only way we can tell what is wrong is to see whatever the console says before it freezes, or ADB logs if you can make it that far. Post whatever you've got.

j101399j said:
If u don't mind, that would be great. I also just noticed that even after a 1/2 hr, a data.img file never was created
edit: wait, your system file in that picture is only 44.325 MB; the latest system file from post 1 is 89.3? Why so different?
Also
What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?
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If it wasn't created then... you wouldn't need to delete it, do you?
ROM Size: That's because I use mixed files from the different Eclair thread's.
It's a "package" of what worked fine on my device.
Most of the files are from this thread, but the system.sqsh is from this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
Mirror File: http://rapidshare.com/files/322793487/android.rar.html (up to 10 times, I don't have a premium account D: )

j101399j said:
What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?
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You need to have one of two things:
If you are using the partitioned SD method, you need a fresh ext2 partition (newly created with a partition manager, or wiped using the Android install script)
If you are using the data.img file method, just make sure there's no data.img on your SD so the installer can create one during boot.

rugalck said:
ROM Size: That's because I use mixed files from the different Eclair thread's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
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thank you, will try
polyrhythmic said:
You need to have one of two things:
If you are using the partitioned SD method, you need a fresh ext2 partition (newly created with a partition manager, or wiped using the Android install script)
If you are using the data.img file method, just make sure there's no data.img on your SD so the installer can create one during boot.
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I competly forgot about needing all lowercase letters; as for the data.img file, that is what I though; Thank you
[EDIT]
That is so wierd; I had to place the system.img into the /sdcard/android folder and the use user file in these 3 places /sdcard /sdcard/android and /sdcard/android/conf
Now it works. Don't know what changed, but it works

j101399j said:
thank you, will try
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http://rapidshare.com/files/322793487/android.rar.html

I can almost guarantee you that the .conf file in your SD root and the .conf file in /android/ are ignored, try deleting them and just leave the .conf in the /conf/ directory. And yes, everything including the system.img/system.sqsh should go in the /android/ folder now.
I bet you can boot this Hero build, but it has a lot of bugs, you'll probably be happier with plain Eclair that rugalck linked.

hey guys ill update when king drops 0.7

keep getting stuck at this part:
ANDROID [ 30.906001] init: Unable
to open persistant property directory /data/property
error 2
How to fix this
thanks

RDilus said:
keep getting stuck at this part:
ANDROID [ 30.906001] init: Unable
to open persistant property directory /data/property
error 2
How to fix this
thanks
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If it's the first boot, make sure to have at least 300mb free in your SD card.

rugalck said:
If it's the first boot, make sure to have at least 300mb free in your SD card.
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not to be rude but im not stupid -.-'
i have like 5GB free...

[How-To] properly install Android

It is not quite self-explaining how to install Android on our Windows Mobile devices. Therefore I took some time and wrote down all the steps for people who are new to "Android".
More testers -> more experience -> more knowledge -> faster/better development.
I hope this way the forum is kept clean(er) from all kinds of questioned that have already been answered many times.
ReadMe Includes:
- Partitioning
- Device preparations
- Boot loader
- Install steps
- Fixes
- Links
- more...
If you are a developer (you create your own package) feel free to use my ReadMe for your packages (update regularly though).
to download the ReadMe click the [Android Repository] button in my signature.

It goes to a rapidshare page with 3 files, and when I click on the filename Android_README.TXT
or start download, I get the error
The file could not be found. Please check the download link.

ok thanks. i fixed it (rs bug when renaming files ^^)

How would i partition a 1GB SD Card? ie what sizes etc are the last 3 same but the unallocated is just whats left over?
I want to use a spare card rather then the one that came with my HD.

ATHiEST said:
How would i partition a 1GB SD Card? ie what sizes etc are the last 3 same but the unallocated is just whats left over?
I want to use a spare card rather then the one that came with my HD.
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normally just calculate how i wrote in the readme:
whole space -768 (3* 256) and then the other 3 x 256
but in ur case i would make the swap smaller (i think its not even used at all) and the fat32 bigger; for instance:
fat32 - 384 MB
ext2 - 256 MB
ext2 - 256 MB
swap - 128 MB (rest)

To be honest the bit I find most confusing is all the different versions!

i didnt create any partitions on my card, and android works as good as it does on any, mind you i have not updated the files fo0r a month so alot might have changed

ReadMe updated!
updated a bit...

Geeba said:
To be honest the bit I find most confusing is all the different versions!
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i agree...
i've been looking these posts here for a couple of days now and i still don't know how to do it....
especially the DualBoot thing...
is it possible to make a little bigger how-to manual?
or at least explain the versioning and the needed thing a little more?

the readme is about 50 times longer than anything else u will find about installing android anywhere else
the different versions are just like in windows mobile, theres not much to explain, its rather up to ur personal preference. doesnt take as long as flashing a wm rom, so its easy to try out more versions, especially with more sd cards.
dual boot is easy:
1. install the cab
2. open the dual boot program and make all your settings, for example: auto boot android (click on the checkbox/ratio under android logo), check auto boot checkbox and check fast boot (means 3 instead of 10 secs).
3. restart your device, DONT LAUNCH HARET because that will destroy all the dualboot settings. if you restart/shutdown the device normally, the settings will be stored and android will automatically booted at next startup (or whatever you set before)
if you have android autoboot and u want to boot wm, just QUICKLY press the wm LOGO when the dual boot screen appears.
i might include this in the readme soon, just dont have the time right now unfortunally

N!ghty said:
the readme is about 50 times longer than anything else u will find about installing android anywhere else
the different versions are just like in windows mobile, theres not much to explain, its rather up to ur personal preference. doesnt take as long as flashing a wm rom, so its easy to try out more versions, especially with more sd cards.
dual boot is easy:
1. install the cab
2. open the dual boot program and make all your settings, for example: auto boot android (click on the checkbox/ratio under android logo), check auto boot checkbox and check fast boot (means 3 instead of 10 secs).
3. restart your device, DONT LAUNCH HARET because that will destroy all the dualboot settings. if you restart/shutdown the device normally, the settings will be stored and android will automatically booted at next startup (or whatever you set before)
if you have android autoboot and u want to boot wm, just QUICKLY press the wm LOGO when the dual boot screen appears.
i might include this in the readme soon, just dont have the time right now unfortunally
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Thanks for the dualboot help... i'll try that...
the first problem I have encountered yesterday when trying to put Android was SD card formating...
i downloaded the program you said and followed the instructions oh how-to and was not able to do it under Windows 7 with my 16GB SD card... does it even work for Windows 7??? is there another program I can try to do it with???
I have also dualboot on my PC with the Kubuntu being the second OS, but I'm not using it as much as Windows 7... I can try with it if you think it will work.. but first I have to download the 15GB of data from my SD card to my PC, again
I would like to put the Espresso build cause I saw that it has everything working beside the GPRS and camera...
can you tell me what should I download for my Blackstone so it works properly???
thanks alot...

qtype said:
Thanks for the dualboot help... i'll try that...
the first problem I have encountered yesterday when trying to put Android was SD card formating...
i downloaded the program you said and followed the instructions oh how-to and was not able to do it under Windows 7 with my 16GB SD card... does it even work for Windows 7??? is there another program I can try to do it with???
I have also dualboot on my PC with the Kubuntu being the second OS, but I'm not using it as much as Windows 7... I can try with it if you think it will work.. but first I have to download the 15GB of data from my SD card to my PC, again
I would like to put the Espresso build cause I saw that it has everything working beside the GPRS and camera...
can you tell me what should I download for my Blackstone so it works properly???
thanks alot...
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like the readme says: partitioning is only needed for partitined builds, which means that android uses several partitions to store different kinds of data, for - hopefully - more speed. only glossy uses partitions, espresso doesnt.
for glossy, u can also use ubuntu (download parted magic or something similar) to create partitions.
for espresso, u just need to copy the stuff onto ur sdcard.
but thats all in the readme... i dont have time to explain in detail coz i need to study a whole ****in lot at the moment +.+

N!ghty said:
like the readme says: partitioning is only needed for partitined builds, which means that android uses several partitions to store different kinds of data, for - hopefully - more speed. only glossy uses partitions, espresso doesnt.
for glossy, u can also use ubuntu (download parted magic or something similar) to create partitions.
for espresso, u just need to copy the stuff onto ur sdcard.
but thats all in the readme... i dont have time to explain in detail coz i need to study a whole ****in lot at the moment +.+
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ok... thanks for the help... you helped me a lot just with the claryfication of the versions that need partitioning and the ones that don't...
i didn't know that...
good luck with studying!!!!

one more question...
I get the following message '' Failed to load file\Storage Card\zImage''
Can you help me with that????

qtype said:
one more question...
I get the following message '' Failed to load file\Storage Card\zImage''
Can you help me with that????
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meaning u dont have a zImage at all (ur probably using espresso?). so download one from here, copy files onto sd card and rename "zImage.xxxxxx" to "zImage" and ur ready to go.

N!ghty said:
meaning u dont have a zImage at all (ur probably using espresso?). so download one from here, copy files onto sd card and rename "zImage.xxxxxx" to "zImage" and ur ready to go.
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yep, I downloaded it but I didn't know that i have to rename it...
It did the trick... booting up Android
thanks for all of your help...

updated the readme, not includes DualBoot howto and some other changes...

I managed to get the WiFi working but no matter which zImage I'm using I can't get the 3G to work...
I'm I doing something wrong or did I maybe forgot to do something????

qtype said:
I managed to get the WiFi working but no matter which zImage I'm using I can't get the 3G to work...
I'm I doing something wrong or did I maybe forgot to do something????
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well, some details about what version you are using would be helpful. however, this is not the right channel to ask this question. i think this question has already been asked several times in other threads. try search function or read the thread for ur version, its probably a version-issue or only for your country/provider

N!ghty said:
well, some details about what version you are using would be helpful. however, this is not the right channel to ask this question. i think this question has already been asked several times in other threads. try search function or read the thread for ur version, its probably a version-issue or only for your country/provider
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sorry about that...I realized it later that I should ask in another thread that question...
I managed to figure it out... I just needed to manually configure my APN settings...

Making a bigger /data partition for apps

I've been wanting to make a larger /data partition on a Droid Incredible. I mean, after all, it comes with a lot of storage. But there is not nearly enough for apps. Sure. I can use my SD card. But unless there is something I'm not aware of, you can only install some apps to the SD and even when you do, pieces of that app still exist in /data. But what's even worse is the fact that I already use my SD card for movies and videos and such and I just don't really use the unclaimed space of which there is plenty, in the phone, for that sort of thing and yet I can't use it to install apps. I haven't found too much on this topic outside of using App2SD. I did find a lot of talk of using parted and even gparted. But this talk is generally about partitioning your SD card. If I were to use parted or gparted to resize the /data partition at the expense of another partition's space and I did it properly, would the Android system not boot because of it? And if this is doable, is there a better, easier way to do it than using parted and adb or gparted? Also, is there a guide for resizing your /data partition? I could probably survive without one if I had to but it would really be helpful just in case there are some big DO NOT DO's that should be avoided that aren't obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

enigmatl said:
I've been wanting to make a larger /data partition on a Droid Incredible. I mean, after all, it comes with a lot of storage. But there is not nearly enough for apps. Sure. I can use my SD card. But unless there is something I'm not aware of, you can only install some apps to the SD and even when you do, pieces of that app still exist in /data. But what's even worse is the fact that I already use my SD card for movies and videos and such and I just don't really use the unclaimed space of which there is plenty, in the phone, for that sort of thing and yet I can't use it to install apps. I haven't found too much on this topic outside of using App2SD. I did find a lot of talk of using parted and even gparted. But this talk is generally about partitioning your SD card. If I were to use parted or gparted to resize the /data partition at the expense of another partition's space and I did it properly, would the Android system not boot because of it? And if this is doable, is there a better, easier way to do it than using parted and adb or gparted? Also, is there a guide for resizing your /data partition? I could probably survive without one if I had to but it would really be helpful just in case there are some big DO NOT DO's that should be avoided that aren't obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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theres around 780mb in there thats not enough?

JoelZ9614 said:
theres around 780mb in there thats not enough?
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He's talking about /data/data/ which is like 150mb, I use the NotEnoughSpace app it lets you store data on cache, emmc, sd card, you should check it out.

Well, I messed with notenoughspace too which was my eason for posting. This was the app that made me say enough is enough, can I just resize /data/data?.
-1- So much space on the incredible is going to waste while programs such as these would have me put apps on the SD where I really do want space for my other stuff like music and movies.
-2- Unless I missed a button or option, NotEnoughSpace came off as annoying to me. I would go into apps and wait for a minute for it to scan every time I do it and then I pick an app, for example Beejive. It makes me move it ONE FILE AT A TIME. And even then, there is stuff you can't move. Can I not just move the app, all of it in one click?
But most importantly, I just want more space on /data/data. I want to resize the partition. The phone has what, 8 gigs on it and allows 150 mb for apps in there which is just crazy.
Can I resize the partition where apps are stored (/data/data) by way of parted or gparted? to avoid the annoyance of using my external storage which I want to use for movies and music? There's probably 6 or so gigs on my phone I'll never use for media that should be meant for apps.
Has anybody resized the data partition? Are there consequences to doing it if it's done properly? Is there a guide? What is the easiest way to do this? Any help would be appreciated.

enigmatl said:
Well, I messed with notenoughspace too which was my eason for posting. This was the app that made me say enough is enough, can I just resize /data/data?.
-1- So much space on the incredible is going to waste while programs such as these would have me put apps on the SD where I really do want space for my other stuff like music and movies.
-2- Unless I missed a button or option, NotEnoughSpace came off as annoying to me. I would go into apps and wait for a minute for it to scan every time I do it and then I pick an app, for example Beejive. It makes me move it ONE FILE AT A TIME. And even then, there is stuff you can't move. Can I not just move the app, all of it in one click?
But most importantly, I just want more space on /data/data. I want to resize the partition. The phone has what, 8 gigs on it and allows 150 mb for apps in there which is just crazy.
Can I resize the partition where apps are stored (/data/data) by way of parted or gparted? to avoid the annoyance of using my external storage which I want to use for movies and music? There's probably 6 or so gigs on my phone I'll never use for media that should be meant for apps.
Has anybody resized the data partition? Are there consequences to doing it if it's done properly? Is there a guide? What is the easiest way to do this? Any help would be appreciated.
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Ask conap hes good with this type of thing

Making progress but still need help.
There's some talk on the net that you can modify the size of the .img files that nandroid makes and simply flash them back to your phone.
Problem is, I can't find a windows way to do it on the net. The closest that I've come is a program called toporesize. This program will let you open files such as data.img from your nandroid backup. But you can't resize them because you get an error box that says this appears to not be an ext* filesystem. Check size file only to resize the file or use other tools. I'm assuming that means it wants you to check a button that says resize file only no resize2fs. In the one guide I found that talks about this app, it says do not check this box. So I'm assuming if you did, it would work and then when you flashed the file back to your phone, it would either not boot or the size would not be changed properly.
I also noted that there's a thread or two that has posted some custom sized data.img files for download. I would do this as a last resort but would prefer to resize my own data.img for a more precise choice of how large I want it.
The error mentions other tools. Are there other tools or programs for Windows users?
Does anybody have any insight on resizing the /data/data partition either by this method, by using parted/gparted, or any other method that works effectively?

I would avoid trying to alter the size of the partitions on your phone. That is how you end up with a brick. There are other ways including finding out which apps are taking up all of your space. 150 MB does not sound like a lot, but it is considering what is stored there.
Go into Manage Applications and click on the All tab. Then press the menu key and sort by size. Click on the apps near the top with anything higher than 3 or 4 MB. Look at the details in the storage section for each app. You will see a Data line item. If it is really high in proportion of the size of the Application, you should clear it. That will save you a lot of space.
In the case of the Mail app or other social networking apps like Facebook or Twitter, you can go into the settings and restrict how much data is stored on the phone. They can really eat up space by downloading a month of emails, etc ...

ihtfp69 said:
I would avoid trying to alter the size of the partitions on your phone. That is how you end up with a brick. There are other ways including finding out which apps are taking up all of your space. 150 MB does not sound like a lot, but it is considering what is stored there.
Go into Manage Applications and click on the All tab. Then press the menu key and sort by size. Click on the apps near the top with anything higher than 3 or 4 MB. Look at the details in the storage section for each app. You will see a Data line item. If it is really high in proportion of the size of the Application, you should clear it. That will save you a lot of space.
In the case of the Mail app or other social networking apps like Facebook or Twitter, you can go into the settings and restrict how much data is stored on the phone. They can really eat up space by downloading a month of emails, etc ...
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This request is meant with respect and NOT as a flame but I have to make this request so others don't follow and potentially change the thread into a debate on whether to resize or not resize the partition.
Please let's not start talking about whether this is a good idea or not nor if doing this can make our phone into a brick. Now that it's been said, those lurking and considering this for themselves can make up their own minds. But there are a lot of things talked about throughout XDA that can make your phone into a brick yet things are done in the name of making our devices better.
And yes. We can take action to reduce the amount of data that apps are taking up. To tell you the truth, I would do that even if I had a 1GB partition. I think always saving space when space can be saved is a good idea.
But just in principle, I and probably others want to reclaim that space on our phones that will never be used by anything. Maybe HTC allocated the space as it's allocated because some users won't use an SD card and will then use that space for their media and other miscellaneous stuff.
But once you have an SD card that's way bigger than the extra space on your phone, it becomes pointless to use that space on your phone for media. So I want it available for data.
So both sides of whether to do this or not have now been posed. I ask can we please get back to the topic of how to though I do thank you for your input.
That said, again, does anybody know how to resize your data partition whether by doing it live with parted or gparted or by editing the data.img file that nandroid via clockwork mod puts out? I would really appreciate it.
I tried making a nandroid backup of the phone through clockworkmod, sending the data.img file to my computer, using toporesize to resize it. And by the way, I was forced to check the resize file only no resize2fs button as not doing this generated an error. I then used md5sum to get an md5sum for the new data.img. I then inserted the md5sum in clockwork/nandroid's nandroid.md5 file (with a linux file compatable text editor). I then sent the entire backup back to the phone in a different clockworkmod/backup folder, used rom manager to restore, selected the new resized backup.
After the flashing was complete, I went into my phone only to find that the data partition still had the same amount free (give or take a few K). I wondered if that's because I had to shrink the system file? I was thinking before I started that it's probable that I would have to shrink another partition that had free space so I chose system. I attempted to repeat the above steps from the beginning this time with the plan of shrinking system.img.
No go. toporesize will not shrink it properly. Errors are reported in the process though when I reload it into toporesize, it looks like it has the size I want. Knowing it would probably fail, I tried to continue anyway. Even with the correct md5sum, nandroid won't even start the recovery of that set. You get a status bar for a second and then, the phone just reboots.
So for now, I'm at a loss but I know this can be done.
Whether using this method or another, does anybody know how to properly change the size of the data partition using WINDOWS?

Don't come crying when you brick it.

ihtfp69 said:
Don't come crying when you brick it.
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I have no intentions of such. -1- I will quite likely never brick it as nandroid pretty much has me covered. But if I do, -2- I don't plan on having this phone forever. It's not new any more. There are already several models that are better than the droid incredible that I'm looking at. If I were to brick this phone, yay. Good excuse to buy a new phone. But, odds are, i'll never brick it and come November or December, I'll buy something else anyhow.
So please, this isn't about the risks, of course you can brick your phone trying this or many other things on XDA.
Does anyone know how to resize the data partition using any method that can be done with the help of a Windows machine?

This is a fundamental change to a very sensitive area you have
276 mb for the system rom and 748mb for user apps.Many rom devs seem to be straining to keep the rom below 200mb and it is amazingly easy to fill up 748 mb with little apps.
I would think if it were possible to do this it would have been done by the rom devs first thing. I would love to see a rom dev bump this to 500mb and 1024mb.
Chances are to re partition the partitions on the phones memory is not possible with out a hboot flash or something of a custom bootloader...
I find removing these help... Also i use handcent and gmail.app instead of the stock apps...
friendstream
peep
twitter
flicker
stocks app
facebook

748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?

enigmatl said:
748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?
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748mb is the size of the entire /data partition what us devs are doing with the new roms is symlinking things to the /system from /data i've managed to do it without symlinking but it bring the /system to its limits and thats usually not good to do

enigmatl said:
748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?
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In my /data/data i have 95.96 MB free
rom 35MB free
app space 212 MB free
internal 6.44GB free

Also /data/data is a different partition than /data so the 150 is not included as part of the 748.

Resize /data/data partition - Update?
Did you ever find a solution to resizing the HTC Incredible's partitions?
I too am fed up with having to constantly clear caches and uninstalled apps, just because the tiny 150MB partition fills up. It's been a problem since my wife and I bought our phones.
I expect it would have to be done by a custom bootloader, but thought I would check and see if you had any success.
If nandroid recreates the partition tables based on the sizes of the .img partition backups, then they could probably be resized by mounting the .IMG files directly under Linux and using Linux tools to resize each one - or - creating a new .img partition of the new size(s), mount the backups and copy everything over to the new one, unmount it and go from there?
Steve

Have you used the Ext4 mod created by Tiny and Jermaine151?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038
...and the following is the original thread which has the details of what exactly the mod does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372
If I'm reading this (outdated) thread correctly, this mod is what you're looking for in regards to partitioning /data/data. The second link is provided in the OP of my first link.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Have you used the Ext4 mod created by Tiny and Jermaine151?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038
...and the following is the original thread which has the details of what exactly the mod does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372
If I'm reading this (outdated) thread correctly, this mod is what you're looking for in regards to partitioning /data/data. The second link is provided in the OP of my first link.
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What he said ^^^^
Just do it.

[BUILD] XDAndroid Froyo 2.2.2 FRX06 for CWM Recovery 1.8 (ClockWorkMod)

THIS BUILD IS OUTDATED, CHECK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177721
I'd like to "present" my recompilation of XDAndroid FRX06 to work with Neopeek's CWM 1.8
No credit for me, but for all XDAndroid devs and Neopeek &co for this.
It doesn't have any other modifications apart from making it available to install from CWM, so everything that applies to FRX06 is useful here. You're the one to decide if you prefer looped or partitioned installs.
Don't try this if you don't know what you're doing. It's only tested by me, so what I'm looking for are TESTERS. PLEASE READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY BEFORE DOING ANYTHING.
Normally it would be easy to return to previous state by repartitioning/formatting SD, but who knows. I take no responsability for any damage to your device.
The instructions for installing CWM are in Neopeek's forum. Only points:
1.- My partition schema, for 8Gb SDCard, is:
1st partition: FAT32 (sdcard / Rest)
2nd partition: EXT2 (system / 150MB) Contains /system - the base ROM
3rd partition: EXT2 (data / about 400 MB) Used as device's internal memory. You can use more if you install a lot of non-movable apps, but between 4 and 500 should do.
4th partition: EXT2 (cache / about 100MB) Dalvik's cache. 100 should be enough
I used Minitool Partition Wizard for the partitioning.
2.- Startup.txt, ts-calibration, kernel and modules must be in the same dir as haret.exe, in this case inside "npkboot" dir.
3.-To move in the CWM menu with our Blackys:
Peteflyman said:
I just toggle between "Reboot system now", push "Vol Up" to get directly to "Power off", and then toggle "Vol Down" to get back to "Reboot system now". I just do that a couple of times then "Back menu button enabled" usually shows up. That's it. Hope it works for you guys as well!
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After the "back menu button enabled" you can use power off button to confirm menu selection. Just select "install zip from sdcard", "choose zip from sdcard" and choose my zip (ofc, don't uncompress it).
4.- You don't need to install Gapps, they're included in the build.
5.- After installed, "reboot system now" and start haret again. Let it work for a while without touching anything until you see PIN or unlock screen to begin using Android.
6.- I'd recommend rebooting a second time before starting to configure everything...
It should work in any device where CWM and XDAndroid work, but the configurations I attach here are for TOUCH HD (Blackstone). If you want to try with other devices, be careful to use the appropiate config files (they shouldn't be difficult to find in your device's forum).
I'm using 1337 kernel & modules from Glemsom's autobuild and it works perfectly with my device, feel free to use the one that suits you better.
Download link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SUBUG5I8
If you have any problem, I'll try to help, but for CWM problems please ask in their forum as you'll find better assistance.

Huh. I guess I'll give it a shot - I cooked a build with CWM & FRX06, was force close city. Tried to fix it, but not hard... Just chalked it up to CWM being crappy since I was able to run FRX06 on dedicated partitions no problem .

if you want to install any other build,or reinstall frx06,go to recovery,choose mounts and storage,then format data,format cache,format system (don't format sdcard for obvious reasons) and then mount data,cache,system,go back and install zip from sd card,choose your zip.
also if you find a build without gapps,go to cyanogenmod.com and grab it there,you should pich gapps for cyanogenmod 6 because that's the froyo build....MDPI or HDPI doesn't matter in our case
many problems are result of gapps missing (some builds come without them,this one doesn't) such as call rejecting or showing black screen instead of lockscreen when you wake the device,so be sure to install them

arrrghhh said:
Huh. I guess I'll give it a shot - I cooked a build with CWM & FRX06, was force close city. Tried to fix it, but not hard... Just chalked it up to CWM being crappy since I was able to run FRX06 on dedicated partitions no problem .
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Then the only difference you'll notice is that you have CWM recovery Anyway, it works pretty well for me, and since I can now write updater-scripts I'll be able to change things very easily
Edit: Now I only have to learn to compare directories to be able to give incremental updates when FRX07 and so on come out!

Eodun said:
Then the only difference you'll notice is that you have CWM recovery Anyway, it works pretty well for me, and since I can now write updater-scripts I'll be able to change things very easily
Edit: Now I only have to learn to compare directories to be able to give incremental updates when FRX07 and so on come out!
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i suggest you to take a working build and start swapping things and trying,it's not that hard,you can go @ neopeek and ask there,there are several tutorials i believe
just be sure to use a froyo build for your froyo build

farukb said:
i suggest you to take a working build and start swapping things and trying,it's not that hard,you can go @ neopeek and ask there,there are several tutorials i believe
just be sure to use a froyo build for your froyo build
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Well, from now I only want to have the /system updated from time to time and identical to XDAndroid if I can.
If I think I can add something of value, I'll make another package to make clear they're different things But for now, I can't add anything (that works)

Eodun said:
Well, from now I only want to have the /system updated from time to time and identical to XDAndroid if I can.
If I think I can add something of value, I'll make another package to make clear they're different things But for now, I can't add anything (that works)
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you can at least start with
/system
/app (add or remove apps)
/fonts (obvious)
/framework (the "look" of the build is defined here,so if you want your froyo to look like ginger,take some of the ginger files and swap with those in this one)
/media (it'll tell you what to do by itself)
other folders are build regarded and some playing and asking pros is advised here

any screenshots ?

Simon_WM said:
any screenshots ?
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It's a vanilla Froyo, identical to FRX06, so I didn't think they were needed. Just look at any basic original Froyo install.

Eodun said:
1.- My partition schema, for 8Gb SDCard, is:
1st partition: FAT32 (sdcard / Rest)
2nd partition: EXT2 (system / 150MB) Contains /system - the base ROM
3rd partition: EXT2 (data / about 400 MB) Used as device's internal memory. You can use more if you install a lot of non-movable apps, but between 4 and 500 should do.
4th partition: EXT2 (cache / about 100MB) Dalvik's cache. 100 should be enough
I used Minitool Partition Wizard for the partitioning.
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Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks
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every card is "original" just the manufacturer is different....eg trandescent cards dont work,what's your card?

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks
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Didn't change the sd that came with the device if that's what you mean. It's a Sandisk, can't tell the class

Eodun said:
Didn't change the sd that came with the device if that's what you mean. It's a Sandisk, can't tell the class
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If it has no C2, C4 etc then it's a "classless" card. I have several, seems any card below 2gig that was sold before a certain time are classless.

arrrghhh said:
If it has no C2, C4 etc then it's a "classless" card. I have several, seems any card below 2gig that was sold before a certain time are classless.
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Well, I can't tell because I'm in android now and can't extract it XD Never had the curiosity to check.
Let me see... Yeah, it has a "2" inside sort of a "C", so it must be a C2 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC lol

Working on FRX07 update.zip to test if it works with CWM

Hi Eodun,
Looking forward to the FRX07 CWM!
Do you think that it is required that Neopeak updates the roofts to the latests version?
regarding your FRX06 CWM, I have a quick question. It is possible to use my old data.img from the normal FRX06?
I guess that it may be possible to copy it on the data EXT2 partition but I can't access via windows XP.
Also tried restoring using CWM (I did a backup and replaced the data.img), but I get a checksum error. Any way to change the checksum to be able to do it?
Thanks in advance

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Looking forward to the FRX07 CWM!
Do you think that it is required that Neopeak updates the roofts to the latests version?
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helicopter88 is already working on that
ypsmav said:
regarding your FRX06 CWM, I have a quick question. It is possible to use my old data.img from the normal FRX06?
I guess that it may be possible to copy it on the data EXT2 partition but I can't access via windows XP.
Also tried restoring using CWM (I did a backup and replaced the data.img), but I get a checksum error. Any way to change the checksum to be able to do it?
Thanks in advance
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I don't think so. But if you backup everything with titanium backup and then restore apps, appdata and system settings (only those that appear in green) you'll have everything as before.

Eodun said:
Working on FRX07 update.zip to test if it works with CWM
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Dude, you don't need to work on anything.
Just grab the FRX07 update.zip from XDAndroid and you're golden... stine makes updates for recovery, which should work fine for CWM.

arrrghhh said:
Dude, you don't need to work on anything.
Just grab the FRX07 update.zip from XDAndroid and you're golden... stine makes updates for recovery, which should work fine for CWM.
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Confirm it updates correctly, but there are some problems with the old Kernel/rootfs.
I can't get wifi to work and I can't turn the device off.
The 20110716 Kernel is not working for Blackstone Topaz.
We need to wait...

ypsmav said:
Confirm it updates correctly, but there are some problems with the old Kernel/rootfs.
I can't get wifi to work and I can't turn the device off.
The 20110716 Kernel is not working for Blackstone Topaz.
We need to wait...
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@arrrghhh: Yeah, I know the update is available, but ypsmav noticed the problem: I need the new rootfs for CWM, and I'm not able to adapt it. As I said, work is being done for that.
Thanks for your replies
Ps It will be a big problem if latest kernel doesn't boot. I haven't been able to boot with it. Edit: But still have to check if it boots with a clean data.