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hello,
ive made a newbie mistake and moved ALL the apps i could to sd card resulting in the fact that i can download apps from market or internet but notINSTALL. ahhhh it says installing forever!!!! when i open manage applications the option to move to phone is grey and i cant press it or uninstall or change in any way. you guys probably know a lot more about it than me and i would realllllly appreciate any help you can give me. everything else works correctly except the option all the time to choose sense or launcher and the different application viewer 3d.
and also it keeps poppin up all proccesses on the right hand side of the screen (see image) i cant uninstall or install apps. what do i do??? thanks again, eiran
+1 for me too. I can download but not instal. Out of 32 apps downloaded Ive only been able to install, Adobe 10.1, App Brain, Titanium, and E!.
Tmo HD2
ChuckyROM 21Aug2010
Radio 2.10
Android shubCraft 1.4c
After installing for example Tajm widget from market, it automatically installs to SD card, it is working ok, but after connecting phone with USB as removable disk drive, widget disappears... after trying to move it to phone memory it disappears again...
the question is.. how to make it work on not rooted, stock 2.2
thanks!!
Youll always have to:
- install widget
- move to phone
- restart phone
- everything is fine.
Of course widgets dont work from SD (if u connect the device as a disk drive), thats why widgets (as well as Apps that include widgets) shouldnt be installed on the SD...
i'll try! thank you!
Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem
Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.
thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.
Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.
Sage said:
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
droidzone said:
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.
my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
mr.r9 said:
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!
Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.
Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better
If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app
For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.
so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?
for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.
i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...
If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?
Hey there,
I got a HTC Desire with Froyo and the lastest update. Rooted and S-OFF as well.
I was just wondering which apps that came with the Desire standard that I can actually safely remove without breaking the OS/Phone.
Mainly I am concerned about these apps as I don't use them or has a replacement for them:
* Footprints
* Friendstream
* Gmail (I use K9 instead)
* Mail (Again K9 used instead)
* News
* News and Weather
* Peep
* Stocks
* Teeter
Those are the apps I would like to get rid of, and prefebly their widgets too if it possible. But which of them are safe to simply delete without causing random errors and/or breaking of the OS.
Can't remove FriendStream as it's leave the phone in a constant sync loop - it's linked to FB contacts being linked to your phone book
EddyOS said:
Can't remove FriendStream as it's leave the phone in a constant sync loop - it's linked to FB contacts being linked to your phone book
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You can if you want but it won't sync. I just unticked it to stop syncing. You can remove a fair few amount of system apps. I got rid of maybe half of them. But what you listed if fine and won't mess around with anything. Just make sure to back them up and then install them if anything goes wrong.
And I will still be able to use market?
MeX_DK said:
And I will still be able to use market?
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Market (Vending.apk) isnt linked to any of the others. You'd know that if you used Cynaogen with Gapps. It's plain Google.
But I don't and im not really into beginning using custom roms just yet as they don't seem stable enough for me just yet .
Now I just need to find a moment of peace to go digging for the correct way to remove apps and then having the time to do a full backup and get started
u can remove teeter n stocks n footprints .. i had long ago didnt face any problems but better to do a nandroid backup n delete watever ud like to your hearts content..n if fails just restore the rom !
Is there a GUI program available to delete those unwanted apk files, or does it have to be done through ADB?
If you're rooted look at Android Commander - still needs adb but it's a GUI. I use it and its easy!
EddyOS said:
If you're rooted look at Android Commander - still needs adb but it's a GUI. I use it and its easy!
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I have rooted, but Android Commander claims it can not get root. So that one is a no go. And Droid Explorer crashes when I try to uninstall, and just reloads the page when I try to delete something
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Is there a GUI program available to delete those unwanted apk files, or does it have to be done through ADB?
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You can use Titanium Backup to delete any system apps you want as long as TB has super user permissions.
I personally delete the following:
stock (dcs apk and dcs service also)
teeter
peep
twitter
If you are using a sense based rom, do not delete any widgets else rosie utility (sense) will keep crashing when you try to use any widgets.
Here is a list compiled by baadnwz (of insertcoin fame)
Safe to remove apks from /system before flashing or after in order to free some space
If you delete those you will loose the HTC Book Reader
EReaderLibrary.apk
EReaderViewer.apk
EReaderWidget.apk
HTC Stock will be gone
com.htc.StockWidget.apk
DCSStock.apk
Stock.apk
HTC Mail will be gone if you don't use exchange or you use k9 mail you can delete
htcmailwidgets.apk
Mail.apk
HTC Radio
com.htc.FMRadioWidget.apk
HtcFMRadio.apk
HTC News reader
HtcGreader.apk
HtcGreaderWidget.apk
HTC Likes
HtcRecommends.apk
HtcRecommendsWidget.apk
HTC Messages - if you use Handcent you can remove default htc message apks - you dont need 2 apks for the same thing
Mms.apk
htcmsgwidgets.apk
Included live wallpapers, if you dont use them or need them you can delete those too
LiveWallpapers.apk
LiveWallpapersPicker.apk
MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
Mode10Wallpapers.apk
VisualizationWallpapers.apk
Flickr- well if you dont use it for uploading ur pics its safe to delete
Flickr.apk
HTC Sense - if you prefer launcherpro or adw or whatever and dont need htc sense you can delete
Rosie.apk
You can delete any apk from /system that has the word widget into his name if you don't need it, i for one remove all widgets i dont use (90% of widgets present :B). But if you delete them from zip before flashing or via adb after flashing you might encounter "ghosts" widgets in widget list #ff3ccc3 for example will be a widget - and if you select it rosie.apk will crash. Don't say I didn't warn you. Best is to have s-off and uninstall them via titanium backup
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You can use Titanium Backup to delete any system apps you want as long as TB has super user permissions.
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What about these?
Gmail.apk
Gmail.odex
Cause I don't use the build in Gmail app either. Unless removing this one breaks all the Google Syncs ?
After going through a long list of stuff to remove I still got weather and News & Weather I would like to get rid of. But what are their proper names?
Doing the installorama I sadly realised that at some point during the process apparently facebook breaks so that it will no longer sync the profile images to people >_<. I very much like that feature, so is there any files I have to avoid for that not to break?
barebone experimenting
First of all, baadnewz, thanks for oa beautiful and well working rom. And I totally respect your (or anyone else's) choice to ignore this post. I'm not expecting anyone to wast their energy on dummies like me. I will keep on searching and trying on my own anyway.
Used leeDroid for a long time but this rom is fantastic.
I am a noob, but not a stupid one. This is the first time I post, after having done my own experiments, testing, searching, reading, learning (I hope) and of course, failing a lot. I'm addicted to deleting apps I don't use.
I work in the area of personal development and I research a lot, so I use my desire as a pure work tool with Docs2go, ezPDF, iReader, PowerAmp, SpringPad, ThinkingSpace, Dolphin HD and TextEdit as my main apps plus helpful apps like AdFree, AutoKiller, BookmarksToSD, BrightnessControl, DesktopVisualizeR, DropBox, LaunchKey, QuickSysInfo, RootExplorer, SetCPU, SuperUser, TitaniumBU, WirelessTether and obviously XDA. Occasionally I download a game but if I'm not using it enough I uninstall it after a back up with Titanium for possible later use.
Other than that I love sense, so I leave the Calendar (+widget), FriendStream (+widget), HTC-Mail (+widget), News (+widget), settingsWidget, WorldClock (-widget), PhotoAlbum (-widget), Messages (-widget), People (-widget).
I also have a few apps like barcodeScan and stuff, but no big space user, except Adobe Flash (do I really need flash if I don't watch film online?).
I think this was all... Yes, everything else is deleted from the zip file, including everything in the resource catalog (wallpaper and stuff) - I only use the wood skin and a wood wallpaper. I deleted some fonts and replaced those with dead files with the same names (stupid maybe). Deleted clock widgets and slideshow. Deleted all media files except for one of each. I also deleted all boot animation zips. I tried to delete libraries that looked like they were connected to apps I deleted, but not anymore. I'm not sure if this was the season, but different functions stopped responding, so I try to not touch lib files and files I don't know. Anyway, all this worked until I tried to do the same with a clean wipe 1.9.5 ? Big problems all the time!? I also tried flashing 1.9.5 on top of 1.9.4. but this worked much as bad. So I'm back on my 1.9.4 restore point...
I love to free up as much memory as possible, at the moment: Internal Storage 117mb, System Storage 77,5mb and Memory 206mb. I believe this is pretty good,or!?
To take some advantage of your latest rom baadnewz, I flashed 2.6.32.29-insertcoin-kernel and lower_voltage_UV_flashable on top of my "barebone" 1.9.4 - donno if this improves anything really, but now everything is working like heavens....
I have tried some kitchens and done some adb, but the kitchen bit feels wrong as long as I don't really understand what I'm doing and what's happening behind the scene..
So, in other words, I have a very stripped down iNsertCoin rom, and I will keep on trying and searching/learning more....
My big question is:
Is different file/apps/scripts/lib and more, dependent on each other, so deleting some will lead to loops and/or errors/fc? Can I edit code/script to support everything I delete?
Is there a place where dummies like me can learn the basics about Android programming, so to be able to understand my question before this one? And YES, I have been looking for this for a long time with no success...
Keep up your brilliant work baadnewz, and thank you so much for all your effort!
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
hello all, i used to run the stock rom froyo, now i installed Android Revolution HD 3.5 wich is froyo also, and i'm making all the settings and app install, but i'm trying to move apps using app2sd or the stock application manager, the system give me computing for all apps without finish the computing, and i cant move apps.
since i know that customized roms are better with moving apps to sd than stock and support better this feature, what is going here, did i missed anything?
i did a full wipe before i installed the rom, but nothing else.
i installed all my apps, and all went to sd, but i have to move some of them to the internal just as how i used to manage on the stock, but i cant, anything to help please?
did you missed out to "allow" the superuser for apps2sd apps ?
apptosd never asked for permission, not before and not now, i think it's something related to the sd card repartition or ext4, i'm not sure just speculations.
and one more issue i have now with the new rom, in the dialer i used to enter numbers and the smart feature filter the phone numbers by contact names and numbers, now it's just do the filter by contact by default, and in order to make the filter by phone numbers i have to long press the 0 first and then enter the number, and my phone usage is based on searching the call history or dialed numbers by phone number filter. is there a way to fix this also?
thanks for any help
any other suggestion and help please? i'm stuck with the app installation i cant install anything now before i move apps
vuedesprit said:
any other suggestion and help please? i'm stuck with the app installation i cant install anything now before i move apps
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you can try with any apk from the market to move the apps to sd-card.. if it it isn´t effective i recomend flash an other rom and test if persists...